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Old April 24th, 2013, 12:48 PM   #151 (permalink)
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HTC One update comes to European model, includes camera improvements

Reports out that the international models are receiving an update, and we should be getting it here soon as well. Lots of camera improvements included in the update

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Here's another example of the HTC One vs. another Smartphone's camera. This time in an applicable, everyday use scenario.

Samsung Note 2



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And a couple comparisons of zoomed-in shots for the purpose of comparing resolution at lower light.

Both shots have the HTC One on the right, and the Samsung on the left.



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Had dinner in a dim lit restaurant last night. I took a pic with my One and with my wife's EVO LTE. This difference is amazing.

The first attached photo is with the Evo lte
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Default Try night mode!!!!

Has anyone tried the Night Mode on their cameras yet?

Check these comparisons out. Again, from a friend of mine who has the HTC One.



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What is the largest size one could print? I take a lot of photos with my phone, but curious what effect the "Ultrapixel" will now have on printing photos. I've previously tried to print large photos from a phone, and they generally turn out pixelated. Anyone know more about this than me? Are we restricted to 5x7 or smaller?
Also, could someone link me to a thread about facebook reducing photo/video quality when posting ONE pics/videos to facebook. It seems my pics and videos look crappy when uploaded to facebook.
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Pixelation on prints could have been resolution or could have been jpeg compression artifacts.

A full frame picture will go to 8x10 at 200 dpi (if arithmetic is my friend today).

It's going to depend on cropping and original picture quality and what you're looking for as to if you'll find that acceptable.
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I know on my onex+, I made sure I was taking pics at full resolution...
I just tried to check my ONE and when opening the camera app, clicking the three dots in the corner to open the settings, I couldn't tell the resolution of my current pics? How can I find out what resolution my main camera is taking?
Also, when I was in there, I noticed under the video mode, there was HDR...High Def Resolution? What is that? Is it not 1080p by default? Sorry for all the questions, just learning.
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Don't know the phone settings, but HDR means High Dynamic Range. Nothing to do with resolution I'm afraid. It's a technique of taking a couple of shots in rapid succession with different exposures and merging them to get a wider dynamic range than the sensor supports. Most high-end phones offer it these days.
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Ok... Noticed my camera setting was currently "normal", switched it to HDR, does that mean I'll get better quality pics now? Obviously I'm aware they will be larger file too.
Also looks the camera defaults back to "normal" when app is closed and reopened later.

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Thanks for the input on HDR. I'll have to test it out when I'm outside sometime. Dark out now.
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You want to think of HDR as an exposure setting, that why it reverts back to normal.

You had it on your One X for still pictures, now you have it for film (video) as well.

In the following two images (on my One X), the first is without HDR, the second is with it. (Pixelation is from me compressing the image, not from the One X. You can see some picture artifacts from HDR if you know what to look for. If you don't, don't sweat it.)





When things are overcast - or when things are very bright and you lose detail in the dark shadows, as happened above - then HDR can help you.

In the second picture, I got a higher dynamic range of colors between the bright and dark places - hence - HDR.

You don't want to use it all of the time, but it's great when you need it.

Here are some great HDR shots from the HTC Rezound. Overcast day, but look how the colors on the train cars just *pop*!






I'm on the older phone, so - in your settings - do you still have one for aspect ratio/resolution?

That's where you'd set for highest photo quality.

And please notice - a 1080p big TV has far fewer dots than your camera at full resolution.

A 1080p TV has only 2 MP pictures.

That's been part of my argument against the megapixel myth for a long time.

Hope this helps!


PS - If curious, here's the fuller resolution pic of that train with an HTC enhancement filter applied - this was exactly what I had in mind when I shot it, I wanted to show a bleak scene with desert heat.



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Ok, thanks guys! This is helpful.
So I'm assuming in "normal" mode this camera is shooting pics at highest resolution...? There seem to be no other options to adjust resolution. And I could get a good looking 8x10 out of that?
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No picture size options? Normal sounds like an exposure mode to me.

Or take a picture and just look at the image info to see how many pixels.
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Pics taken under "normal" mode result in resolution of 1520x2688 and the size varies from 1.54MB to 2.4MB... usually around that range, anywhere in between. Size seems small...? Why the difference in MB in every pic?
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Pics taken under "normal" mode result in resolution of 1520x2688 and the size varies from 1.54MB to 2.4MB... usually around that range, anywhere in between. Size seems small...? Why the difference in MB in every pic?
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What is compression, Alex???

Really, though, I'm NO WHERE near the experts Early, Novoxx and Marc are, but I believe compression is one of the issues some shutterbugs have with HTC cameras. But, I would default to their infinite (at least in comparison) knowledge.
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I've been on here reading a lot of posts and they've been helping me a lot. So, much so, that last weekend I made the impulse to upgrade my phone and get the HTC One from an old school Epic 4G (and I was preparing myself to get the photon q lol). I was planning on just testing it for two weeks and deciding if I wanted to return it for a lack of a keyboard, but it looks like this thing is growing on me, especially the camera, the ZOE feature, and general quickness of the phone.

With that said, I've been using the camera a lot, taking bunches of pictures, creating zoes, creating highlights, etc. and I've been enjoying the experience. The thing I noticed, though, that even though the phone is touted to work well in low light situations, I still sometimes take pictures that come out too dark in those situations. Also, they come out blurry sometimes, even with the burst shot to get the best shot mode.

So, I wanted to reach out to the community and see if there are any general camera settings, when you get to certain environments and situations, that are your go-to setting to get the most out of your camera and create the best image possible? I.E. HDR for outdoor shots, Macro for close up, Normal for day to day, etc. And also, any general use cases for ZOE that you've grown accustomed to up to this point. I.E. Do you use them strictly for highlights? Do you make a lot of Action Shots? Do you use them to find the best shots? etc.

I know this is a long post, but I'm kind of a talker and I wanted to let it all out, since I've been reading so much on here. I'm hoping this thread could turn into a sort of "Tips and Tricks for the HTC One Camera" thread. ) Thanks in advance for the help!
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I don't change any settings other than macro, for close up shots. I'm never in the situation to where I'm shooting in low light, so I can't speak to that. But I take a lot of photos, and haven't experienced any blur issues.

Before I shoot...I like to touch on the screen of what I am focusing on and it works really great. Have you tried that prior to shooting?
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Here's a comparison of the HTC One's camera before and after the update - if anyone wants to know or doesn't know yet.
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I've touched the screen to help with the focus and that'e worked out fine too. I've just been in a couple of situations where I take a picture, expecting it to be clear and it's not. It's probably user error, but I wanted to see if any settings in the phone could help with that.
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Thanks for sharing that. The first before and after pics...seems to address the one situation to where I thought the camera failed. In the evening, the sky would be washed out of the shot. Or if you focused on the sky, everything was too dark to see. Not the case in that after update photo
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I was in a fairly dark room the other night and tried to use the Night Mode on my camera and the picture didn't really come out as some i've seen on this site and from reviews of the phone. So what setting do you use for low light situations??
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I'd also still like to hear how some people are using their ZOE's, if it's being used at all for that matter. I've been mainly using them for the highlight reels and I've used a couple of the burst photos for individual shots, but that's it. I'm trying broaden my horizon to the various use cases that are applied to it. I tried to do a sequence shot, but I keep getting the "Unable to continue because not enough images to process" message. That's happened a couple of times, come to think about it.
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I'd also still like to hear how some people are using their ZOE's, if it's being used at all for that matter. I've been mainly using them for the highlight reels and I've used a couple of the burst photos for individual shots, but that's it. I'm trying broaden my horizon to the various use cases that are applied to it. I tried to do a sequence shot, but I keep getting the "Unable to continue because not enough images to process" message. That's happened a couple of times, come to think about it.
I been using them for the highlight reel as well, I love it! I'll be playing more with the camera/zoe options when I go to the beach
And it is pretty neat that the zoe's randomly play in your camera shots, get's people every time lol
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I was in a fairly dark room the other night and tried to use the Night Mode on my camera and the picture didn't really come out as some i've seen on this site and from reviews of the phone. So what setting do you use for low light situations??
There's such a thing as too little light - but - you can try to increase the ISO setting (go to a bigger number) in the camera settings in addition to Night mode.

Pictures may be grainier - and you will need to use a steady hand under ultra-low-light conditions.

You can also try to increase the exposure under settings on top of that.
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Anybody else have issues with the macro function on the camera? Mine just won't focus on anything closer than 2 or so feet...that's not macro.
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no issues with macro recording. what are your settings? what scene are you attempting to capture? did you have this issue from day one of purchasing or did it just start after some time?
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no issues with macro recording. what are your settings? what scene are you attempting to capture? did you have this issue from day one of purchasing or did it just start after some time?
I didn't change any settings from the way the camera came, and I was attempting to capture a section of the case I bought for the phone. I tried under two light sources (bright, dimmer) admittedly I only tried on one occasion, then ended up using my digital camera.
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Copy that.

I took some sample shots and as long as I am tapping on the part of the screen I want to be in focus, the performance has been solid. this is stock/basic settings under indoor incandescent lighting.

short of a soft reset and cleaning the lens, not sure what else could be the cause.

its the weekend, so more of the camera users will chime in perhaps tomorrow.
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It doesn't have an actual macro mode, like the LTEvo?
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I find that the macro mode is almost identical in performance to the normal mode. I just did a test in bright light with a few small object and I can't really seem to see much difference between the two. Obviously there's a bit of play in these, as it's hard to take an identical shot without a tripod, but you take a look yourself and see what's better.


Volvo Key

I took this shot probably about 5-6 inches away from the Key and was trying to focus on the Volvo logo for both shots.

You can see that at a little further away, the lettering on the key portion of the Fob is very clear, but the volvo logo is a bit blurry. As far as either shot goes, the Volvo logo is not that clear.
normal mode



macro mode (I must have subconsciously snuck up a little closer on this one)






Here's a candy I put out in the sunlight. I was trying to focus on the text on top.

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And a Macro shot. I'm not impressed with either of these, although the detail in the wood grain of my deck comes out quite nicely.







And then finally my salt and pepper shaker man. I couldn't get the camera to focus in on this little guy's head in either mode, but I found that tapping his belly as the focal point made it a somewhat decent shot (You can see the flecks of dirt represented quite clearly on his gut. he's a messy eater, I imagine)


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That was a bad test. I'm trying a different one atm. Stay tuned.
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looks to me like the macro mode is making the objects lighter in color.
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Ok, so I took a little Ninja figurine I got out of one of those coin-crank machines and placed him on the kitchen table at the end of a strip of tape measuring out every inch up to 5 inches. The figurine is slightly over 1" tall, so it IS quite little.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/EvilFenn/PlasticNinja.jpg

Considering most macro shots are done from close up, I wanted to see what kind of detail I could get out of the macro setting vs. the regular setting in an actual macro situation.

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Here's what ended up happening.

First of all, anything taken from 3 inches and closer was blurry. Neither the macro or normal function could focus in on the little figurine and obviously anything closer than 4 inches is where the Macro lens limits out.

What I put together below, however, is the comparison of the "normal" mode to the "Macro" mode of the HTC One. I rested the camera on the kitchen table and held the lens level with both the 5 inch mark and the 4 inch mark before snapping.

Macro on the left, normal on the right. I hit the "view actual size" button in Windows Media Viewer in order to get the full res pic, then cropped out the rest of the frame for these.

My camera settings are standard except for "Sharpness" which I dropped to -1.


FROM 5 INCHES AWAY MACRO ON LEFT, NORMAL MODE ON RIGHT.















FROM 4 INCHES AWAY. MACRO MODE ON LEFT, NORMAL MODE ON RIGHT.













There doesn't look to be too much difference except for the saturation and the sharpness. I'm not sure how much different they would've looked if I would've left the sharpness on the camera's standard 0 setting.

In other words, I don't know how much of a benefit the macro mode is as of yet.

Here's a link to the photos if you'd like to see the full versions.

Macro from 5": http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u221/samcanadian/Macro5_zpse2257d0a.jpg

Macro from 4": http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u221/samcanadian/Macro4_zpsb4c459aa.jpg


Normal from 5": http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u221/samcanadian/Normal5_zps6c1ca05d.jpg

Normal from 4": http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u221/samcanadian/Normal4_zps028f4626.jpg
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were you using the zoom feature on either of these shots?
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Nope, neither were zoomed. The ones from 4 and 5" out look small because the figurine is very small.

When I dropped them onto my PC I opened them in Photo Gallery and clicked "View Full Size" Then centred the photos on the figurine. I put them side by side without either zooming in, or out, and then clipped the image with a screencap tool.

I'm sure there are better ways to do it, but that's how I did it.
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Yea, I reproduced your shots with and without macro on some small parts on my desk. I really didn't see a difference either, focal distance appeared to be the same for "normal" and "macro".
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I agree as well. I've tried some macro shots and, depending on the elements in the picture, the focus points didn't really show a difference between it and normal mode; at least not to the level of distinction shown in the advertisements/examples I've seen for the HTC One around the web. I also noticed that sometimes, it takes a few seconds for the focus to come into clarity. Maybe it's my impatience when it comes to a great shot, but taping the screen still took it a second or two for the focus to get to the point where I was satisfied with the image it would produce. Nevertheless...I still love the camera though.
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ive had the phone since release date and had yet to shoot or use Zoe mode. last night i went to a carnival with my sister / brother in-law and nieces, and took a bunch of zoe shots of them riding rides etc... also used it while taking a few family pics of them

wow i never thought i'd use it, but its actually very awesome. the 30 second videos it created were so nice. i emailed the vids to them and they absolutely loved them.
also, i was able to go in after shooting fam pics and use the 'always smiling' feature. which allows you to select one of the faces, and choose the best part within the 3 seconds for that one person. it was very useful, as one child rarely looks at the camera.

great job htc.
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perhaps the macro mode is a fix that may be in the next MR from htc? I noticed the shots taken (LOVE THE SALT AND PEPPER DUDE! HA!) and can see what you are experiencing.

I don't use camera phones much as I always carry a conventional digital cam, but i will see if i can reproduce these also.

as I always say, sending a ticket to htc will help.

great work!
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Ok, so I feel a little silly.

I talked to a friend of mine who also owns the HTC One and I explained my Macro dilemma to him. Since he is considerably more well-versed in photography than I am, he let me know that a Macro mode won't necessarily effect the quality of the photo taken, but rather HOW the photo is taken.

Here's a test to show you what I mean.

Holding your camera in one hand, point it at a wall and let it focus in on it. Then, holding an arm straight out, place your hand in front of the camera. The Normal Shooting mode will struggle to focus in on the hand and/or the wall and will most likely focus on the hand...but it may not. To focus on the hand, you'd have to tap to focus before taking the picture.

If you switch the camera to MACRO mode, that "Tap to focus" step is unnecessary. When you hold something in front of the camera, it will automatically focus on the nearest thing to it rather than making you tap on it manually. So, do the same test and notice how much quicker the camera will focus in on the hand or other objects close to the camera.

This shooting method would probably be useful if you're outdoors or trying to take a shot of something with bright light obscuring the screen. Sometimes it's hard to tell if an object is in focus, so with the Macro mode you can rest assured that the object in the foreground will be what the camera is focusing on.
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I'm laughing at myself.

I just found out that on my LTEvo, when I go to edit a photo, I can select Effects - and at the top is a little doo-dad that lets me "add filters."

There is a wealth of stuff there, I practically don't need Photo Enhance Pro for most of my changes.

Is the One the same way??
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The only thing I hate about Zeo is how it interacts with Dropbox. I wish it would store Zoe pictures in a separate folder, so I don't get 20 of the same pictures...
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I'm laughing at myself.

I just found out that on my LTEvo, when I go to edit a photo, I can select Effects - and at the top is a little doo-dad that lets me "add filters."

There is a wealth of stuff there, I practically don't need Photo Enhance Pro for most of my changes.

Is the One the same way??
Yeah, that was a mostly un-noticed feature enhanced/added with one of the updates for the Evo 4G LTE. I almost posted about it once since I had the feeling that not a lot of folks knew it was there, but after a while I just decided, meh...

The One has a very similar edit feature within the gallery. You can probably find an online photo gallery or video walkthrough of the updated 'edit' feature in action if you look up one of the more in depth peeks at The One or Sense 5.
It is upgraded from the Evo 4G LTE and other Sense 4 devices. It has a few different filters that differ from Sense 4, a couple extra photo frames, as well as a simple retouch feature (skin smoothing, lighting, face contour, red eye remover, etc.), and a crop/transform tool. One thing the Sense 4 edit tool had that was going for it was a custom filter editor. I might just be not seeing it, but it may be missing/removed from Sense 5.

Excuse me for thinking out loud here. Maybe Zoe already does this or can do something similar
But I've been rolling an idea around in my brain for a little bit. I was thinking about how cool it would be if Zoes had an extra 3D motion effect to them. If HTC ever decided to try out making another 3D camera device, they could probably add a very enthralling 3D motion cinemagraph effect to Zoes. I don't really want to see a gallery filled with multiple .2 second repeating gifs, but It could look really cool if when you open your gallery you could see some extended motion with extra dimensionality to your pictures rather than just a cut-fade photo/video slideshow Zoe.



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One thing the Sense 4 edit tool had that was going for it was a custom filter editor. I might just be not seeing it, but it may be missing/removed from Sense 5.

When you have a picture open go to edit then Effects and then long press on one of the filters until Custom appears at the bottom. Then drag the filter to the word custom and you can change the filter around and save a new preset. Haven't found a way to mess with the filters at picture taking time though.
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When you have a picture open go to edit then Effects and then long press on one of the filters until Custom appears at the bottom. ... Haven't found a way to mess with the filters at picture taking time though.
Ahhhh, hidden under a long press. Figures.
Not to say that said device doesn't exist, but I don't think I've ever seen a stock camera application that you can personally edit/customize the live filters on the fly (besides the optional slider bar needed for some effects)...
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A mild digression here:
I stopped into an AT&T store today to get my first real look at the One. The sales person was trying to talk up the phone, and made a few very inaccurate statements; one of which was "it has a 13 megapixel camera. One of the best ones out there."
I had to stop her when she made that blunder, though I had let the others pass. She seemed upset with me for telling her she was wrong, but I couldn't let that fly.
I feel sorry for people that blindly trust what sales people say. No offence meant to any sales-peeps here, I have just had horrible experiences with them, especially at cell phone retailers.

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Has anyone experienced any kind of distortion in the photos with the camera on the HTC One?

I used to have an iPhone and was using the app Everyday to take a photo every day, and did this for about 15 months. I'm now trying to do the same with my HTC One, but every time I take a photo with it, the image looks good in the post-shot preview, but when I go to the Gallery, there is a weird distortion going on, as if there's been a horizontal displacement somewhere in the middle of the photo.

Someone's going to say it's because I'm ugly, but apart from that, has anyone experienced anything like this?

Edit: I just wanted to say I tried downloading a different app - I just picked a random Top one off the App Store, Cymera - and the distortion is no longer present.

In another app I tried called 365 Photo App! the distortion was present just like it is in the regular camera/Gallery app. I don't know if this has to do with whether or not the apps use the built-in software, or their own for taking photos.
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