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Old April 5th, 2013, 11:39 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm not complaining, but does anyone else notice that phones have all of these specs and still no USB 3.0? Looks nice though, I'm curious about how much graphics memory it has. Not that it matters but I'm curious if it has better GPU than Galaxy SIII

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Will the new HTC ONE (Sprint CDMA) have a slot for an International SIM Card??
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No user accessible sim slot for the Sprint version, so you will not be able to pop in a sim card at will.
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I'm not complaining, but does anyone else notice that phones have all of these specs and still no USB 3.0? Looks nice though, I'm curious about how much graphics memory it has. Not that it matters but I'm curious if it has better GPU than Galaxy SIII
MicroUSB 3.0 technology still isn't ready to my knowledge. I would expect the next generation of phones to have it though (late 2013/Early 2014). The USB Implementers Forum acknowledged they were working on it but speeds would max out around 800mbps vs 5Gbps, however faster charging would be a benefit. Still with wireless charging looking more likely to be the norm, it is probably too little to late unless it is a host port.
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No user accessible sim slot for the Sprint version, so you will not be able to pop in a sim card at will.
Interestingly, Engadget's comparison review of the ATT and Sprint versions says that the Sprint model does have a user-changable SIM:

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but I would assume that it's carrier-locked at least.
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Interestingly, Engadget's comparison review of the ATT and Sprint versions says that the Sprint model does have a user-changable SIM.

HTC One for AT&T and Sprint: what's different?
Yeah I caught that too. I guess i really never noticed but it does have a GSM/UMTS radio in it. I am betting it is locked but according to the HTC One User Guide you just have to call them to enable Worldwide Service. I am sure, as with other models, after x amount of time activated they will unlock the SIM slot for International travel (not US Carriers).

http://shop.sprint.com/global/pdf/user_guides/htc/one/htc_one_gsg.pdf
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I still doubt the Sprint version has a user replaceable sim slot for use on gsm networks. sprint is a cdma carrier as we all know. the ONE on Sprint is not being touted as a world device. the micro sim slot is for LTE services, not to use gsm freqs.

one can do international roaming with this device as you can with other devices on Sprint.

just my opinion on what I've also read. it's all speculation until sprint users get this device.

don't want to make this into a big deal so I'll let you have the last word on it. :-)
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Nooo, I'm certainly not arguing. We don't have CDMA handsets here, so I only have limited knowledge of how they work, so I can quite believe that it has a fixed "internal" SIM for GSM use and the slot is for LTE.

I did notice that the Sprint user guide silkclown posted didn't mention the SIM at all, so they aren't exactly encouraging people to try changing it.

(Don't ask why I read that guide when we don't use CDMA this side of the pond! ).
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I still doubt the Sprint version has a user replaceable sim slot for use on gsm networks.Note: Prior to using your Sprint Worldwide GSM/UMTS Data Services, you must establish and utilize your CDMA data services domestically on the Sprint Networksprint is a cdma carrier as we all know. the ONE on Sprint is not being touted as a world device. the micro sim slot is for LTE services, not to use gsm freqs.

one can do international roaming with this device as you can with other devices on Sprint.

just my opinion on what I've also read. it's all speculation until sprint users get this device.

don't want to make this into a big deal so I'll let you have the last word on it. :-)
Of course it is all just speculation but this little nugget of info stuck out to me in the Sprint get started guide "Note: Prior to using your Sprint Worldwide GSM/UMTS Data Services, you must establish and utilize your CDMA data services domestically on the Sprint Network" :-)
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Default The os takes 10gb. Wow.

Wow that's a lot of space. So those with the 32gb phone only have 22gb to use. Glad I went with 64gb.
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Ugh really? That's abysmal.
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I had an 8 gig nexus.
I used 3 gigs...

32 or 22 is more than enough for me and probably most people.
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You sure?
I only ask because OS space was only 6GB on mine and it appears to be the same on most others aswell.
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Wow that's a lot of space. So those with the 32gb phone only have 22gb to use. Glad I went with 64gb.
Says I have 19.6 GB Free of 25.4 GB, That's 6.6 GB used by the OS. That's including all the AT&T Bloat that will be removed soon.
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You sure?
I only ask because OS space was only 6GB on mine and it appears to be the same on most others aswell.
Yep. It says I have 10gb of other? I have not even installed anything yet.
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Yep. It says I have 10gb of other? I have not even installed anything yet.
Who is your carrier?
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Yep. It says I have 10gb of other? I have not even installed anything yet.
Since you haven't installed anything yet and seem to be in the minority, maybe try factory resetting your device?
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Not as evil as Verizon, lol
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Yep. It says I have 10gb of other? I have not even installed anything yet.
Try doing a factory reset as suggested but if that doesn't work then maybe that's just the default amount on the 64GB model.
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only 6g on mine as well. sprint
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only 6g on mine as well. sprint
Is yours the 64gb
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I've had my 32Gb model for a month and have not reset it at all during that time. I have 6.6Gb of other.
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Atts bloatware is all over this diamond. Disgusting.
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Atts bloatware is all over this diamond. Disgusting.
It would take a considerable amount of effort to get HTC to be able to tell AT&T to pound sand like Apple can.

When space was a premium it may have been important.. but these days with the ability to freeze the apps and the capacity it's far less of an issue.

Personally I don't care about carrier apps anymore since they can be hidden.
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It would take a considerable amount of effort to get HTC to be able to tell AT&T to pound sand like Apple can.

When space was a premium it may have been important.. but these days with the ability to freeze the apps and the capacity it's far less of an issue.

Personally I don't care about carrier apps anymore since they can be hidden.
It's annoying. I have two of the same app because of this.
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It's annoying. I have two of the same app because of this.
I didn't think that was possible?
Which app is it?
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I didn't think that was possible?
Which app is it?
I had 2 mail apps putting out notifications all the first day till I disabled them in Gmail. And my flashlight was missing
that was strange.
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Says I have 19.6 GB Free of 25.4 GB, That's 6.6 GB used by the OS. That's including all the AT&T Bloat that will be removed soon.
The total storage is 29.8 GB before you start loading the OS (32 decimal Gigs = 29.8 binary), so the OS is actually using 4.4 GB.

It's common to all storage devices - manufacturers quote the capacity in decimal because it sounds bigger, but file sizes are binary, so you always get less storage than it appears.

I realise this doesn't make any difference to your storage, I'm just a pedant!
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New to android. Picked up my 32G One from AT&T and was very surprised to see 18.9Gb in "other". WTH? This on par with everyone else?
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I have the 32Gb on Vodafone (UK) and it takes up 6.6Gb. Someone else on AT&T also complained that their 'Other' takes up way more space too in THIS THREAD.
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My 64Gb takes up 10.25GB in Other.
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My 32GB AT&T HTC One is showing 'other' phone storage to be 6.98GB......
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Did you just get this on your blinkfeed? I came on to post the same thing lol
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Uh oh.

Link in the comments to the datasheet.

ST was openly selling the part.

It was under an NDA.

This is not going to be pretty.
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I don't know if HTC will be able to sue ST for it (I doubt it) but ST have definitely got the revenue to cover it of they did.

HTC just can't seem to get anywhere these days.
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I don't know if HTC will be able to sue ST for it (I doubt it)
I'd hope that HTC have some sort of "consequential loss" clause in any contract with ST. This could potentially cost them dearly, through no fault of their own.

There's a bit more detail below.
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What a fiasco this HTC/ST/Nokia business is. It's just a mess! If things couldn't get any worse for the HTC One with their delays with the One this is just going to add to their many, many woes.

It's just frankly not good news and they can't seem to catch a break. HTC appear to be blameless on this one but it looks like it will still end up costing them dearly.

Further developments on this situation:

Nokia's co-developed high-amplitude mics retain 10-month exclusivity, HTC has to look elsewhere (updated)

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Nokia's injunction yesterday has now been made a little more concrete. The Amsterdam district court has handed down a 10-month ban on STMicroelectronics selling its high-amplitude mics to anyone other than the Finnish phone maker. The same dual-membrane microphone is used in both the Lumia 720 and the HTC One, but Nokia (which co-developed and designed the component) had signed a 12-month exclusivity deal with the chipmaker -- a deal that STMicroelectronics apparently thought was only six months long.
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In short, you'll still be able to buy HTC's flagship in the Netherlands with those dual high-amp mics in tow -- at least for now.
So is this only a Netherlands problem or does it affect the HTC One worldwide? Meaning 2-3 months from now we could get the HTC One with a different mic than what they were originally using (ST's)?

Edit: Just done some further research and this ban is global!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/22/us-nokia-htc-injunction-idUSBRE93L0Z420130422

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[Nokia] said the injunction was effective until March 2014 and would prevent ST Micro from selling the components to Taiwan's HTC globally.
Meaning future Ones produced will contain a different mic altogether. Will it be as good as the original from STMicroelectronics.....who knows, BUT it is one of the major selling points of the phone - Boomsound.

Anyone wanting an original HTC One better snap one up now before they start shipping with the non-infringing but not-as-good mic component. I really do think they are going to have to halt production until the new part is supplied.

If i were HTC i would do a quick deal with Nokia and vice versa before this escalates any further.
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Default HTC ONE/NOKIA microphone SNAFU

I'm guessing a ruling will allow for any stock already produced &/or sold will be unaffected by any ruling,or,of little consequence/penalty to HTC,w/most of any penalty burden falling on ST Electronics.

If this patent/technology proves to be found on any other non-NOKIA handsets w/o NOKIA's blessing & was proven that NOKIA knew of such & failed to act on it,the repercussions for both HTC & ST would most likely be minimized.This scenario is a hypothetical & a doubtful one.

If it has been licensed to others,look for HTC to enter a licensing deal,if NOKIA chooses to accept such a deal & who knows if NOKIA would be under any obligation to do so based on precedent,if it's found that this tech has been licensed to other non-NOKIA hansets.

Better yet,hopefully HTC can look back at some of their previously released phones for a suitable alternative to the status quo for future manufacturing of the ONE & avoid further aggravation of legal headaches.
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Boomsound is the speakers, not the microphones.

ST Micro has already announced that they will be contesting this. They didn't just think on a whim that they were free to sell this.

ST Micro has also begun to work on an equivalent replacement part that wouldn't contain Nokia IP. Not sure if I can find details on the intellectual property allocations involved (or if I'll find them first, expect leaks lol) but if/when I do, I'll post back.

HTC hasn't said what quantity they have for the part on hand.

HTC injunction - only in the land of Nokia.
ST Micro injection - worldwide shipping of the part.

TL/DR - There are 3 dimensions to microphone part supply that are fluid at this point.
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Some updated legal info/news on the HTC/NOKIA/ST MICRO situation:

HTC found blameless over Nokia microphone technology used in the One
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HTC One will transition to a new microphone component to avoid legal trouble with Nokia

Looks like it's going to have little impact.
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HTC One ban in the Netherlands has been lifted.

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Preliminary ban of HTC One lifted in the Netherlands - GSMArena.com news
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I was thinking of getting the HTC One on Sprint. I have heard conflicting reports as if this is a world phone or not. I think it supports GSM 800 and 1900 bands. I want to know if I can just pop in a SIM card from another country and use it as a unlock phone (I know I have to ask Sprint to unlock it). I am going to France this summer and wants to use the phone there. Any help would be much appreciated. If it is not a world phone, I guess I have to pass up the One for now!
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While I can not confirm with absolute certainty these facts, from what I've seen is that it isn't sim unlocked, but it does support the following GSM frequencies:

GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
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While I can not confirm with absolute certainty these facts, from what I've seen is that it isn't sim unlocked, but it does support the following GSM frequencies:

GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSPA: 1900/2100
Thank you for your reply, but I was under the impression that that was the general GSM model and not the Sprint model. Can anyone with the Sprint model confirm this for me (the type of bands it has)?
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Thank you for your reply, but I was under the impression that that was the general GSM model and not the Sprint model. Can anyone with the Sprint model confirm this for me (the type of bands it has)?
I think that's the Sprint version because I would imagine the general GSM model would be compatible with more HSPA frequencies. Only supporting 2 of them wouldn't cut it as an international phone.
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I think that's the Sprint version because I would imagine the general GSM model would be compatible with more HSPA frequencies. Only supporting 2 of them wouldn't cut it as an international phone.
Yeah, I just looked and that indeed is the band present in the Sprint HTC One.
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