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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wanted to post this link from PDADB.NET w/specs for the HTC ONE:

HTC One 801e 32GB (HTC M7) Detailed Specs | Technical Datasheet | PDAdb.net

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Previous references to discrepancies in the information from PDADB.NET have been edited. All information appears to be accurate, will update as necessary.

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Looks like HTC is moving fast to get this thing to the US...

HTC One for Sprint spotted with FCC approval
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Can't wait to download and check out the PDFs - https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout =500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=786973&typ=8 374&fcc_id=NM8PN07200

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I've seen several places state that the HTC One has 32 GB of internal storage, but other places indicate there will also be a 64 GB model. Does anyone know if that's true? With no SD slot, I'd definitely want to get as much storage as possible. Thanks!
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HTC clearly state on their website that there will be 32GB and 64GB capacities (though there may be some regional/network variation). However, I've not seen the 64GB version actually offered anywhere yet.

So my guess (or hope!) is that the 64 GB version will be released a little later. The question is, when?
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I really like the phone. I have original Evo 4g which has served me well. Of course I have the extended battery and carry an extra one with me if I'm going to use the phone a lot. My ONLY issue with the One would be battery life. Why, oh why doesn't HTC make the phone either with big battery like the Motorola Razor Maxx or, like Samsung S3, provision for swapping it out. A cheap and simple solution which would totally eliminate the battery life issue. Battery life has been an issue with other One's and HTC smart phones. The issue which repeatedly comes up is battery life. Why brag about all the super features when the reality is you have to shut off the features to reduce draw on the battery? (no GPS, no 4G, no Autosync, etc.) And this is without thinking about future LTE use (not here yet with Sprint in SoCal, but when it comes, sure to be a huge battery draw).

A simple fix but HTC refuses to listen.
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I really like the phone. I have original Evo 4g which has served me well. Of course I have the extended battery and carry an extra one with me if I'm going to use the phone a lot. My ONLY issue with the One would be battery life. Why, oh why doesn't HTC make the phone either with big battery like the Motorola Razor Maxx or, like Samsung S3, provision for swapping it out. A cheap and simple solution which would totally eliminate the battery life issue. Battery life has been an issue with other One's and HTC smart phones. The issue which repeatedly comes up is battery life. Why brag about all the super features when the reality is you have to shut off the features to reduce draw on the battery? (no GPS, no 4G, no Autosync, etc.) And this is without thinking about future LTE use (not here yet with Sprint in SoCal, but when it comes, sure to be a huge battery draw).

A simple fix but HTC refuses to listen.
A larger capacity may not be necessary.I'll wait to pass judgement on battery life after this actually hits the streets.This phone shooooooould have much better battery life than what you're experiencing w/your current handset.

Of the options you wish for,the larger embedded battery would be the way to go,to keep in line w/the unibody-sealed construction.

I'm really looking forward to this phone & as w/you,my biggest concern is battery life.Everything else @ face value screams AWESOME & considering all that's went into developing this phone,I'm cautiously optimistic we won't be disappointed w/battery life.

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I get 8 hours of screen on time on wifi with my Evo LTE (One X) per charge, no radio babysitting. Everybody's mileage will vary depending on the phone use. No idea on LTE use here.

Some people will no doubt need replaceable batteries, but they've come a long way so far.
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I get 8 hours of screen on time on wifi with my Evo LTE (One X) per charge, no radio babysitting. Everybody's mileage will vary depending on the phone use. No idea on LTE use here.

Some people will no doubt need replaceable batteries, but they've come a long way so far.
That's crazy good battery life,more than enough to get through a day,whether @ work or otherwise

I think it's safe to say the ONE will surpass this.

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A look @ the tech for audio recording w/the ONE:

HTC One “dual-membrane” microphones should improve audio recording quality | Android Community
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I've said for a long time that I won't ever buy another phone where I can't swap the battery out. Having had two battery destroying phones in the last 3 years (EVO 4G and EVO3D, I've grown very used to always carrying a spare battery in my pocket.

With that being my only major gripe about this phone, I'm going to have to make a liar of myself and buy it anyway. My only other real option is the Galaxy S 4, but I just can't do the Samsung AMOLED screen. The blue tint would make me absolutely insane. Until they fix it, I'll never buy a Samsung.

My only other very minor grips about this phone:
  • No physical camera button, like the 3vo
  • No kickstand - I don't see how this simple feature has not become a mainstay on ALL phones...
  • No 3D. Yeah, I know it was just a novelty, but it was one that I really enjoyed. With the technology getting cheaper, I don't see the reason for it to have been completely abandoned.
  • I love that they're going for camera quality, rather than more megapixels, but 4MP does seem a little low.
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I've said for a long time that I won't ever buy another phone where I can't swap the battery out. Having had two battery destroying phones in the last 3 years (EVO 4G and EVO3D, I've grown very used to always carrying a spare battery in my pocket.

With that being my only major gripe about this phone, I'm going to have to make a liar of myself and buy it anyway. My only other real option is the Galaxy S 4, but I just can't do the Samsung AMOLED screen. The blue tint would make me absolutely insane. Until they fix it, I'll never buy a Samsung.

My only other very minor grips about this phone:
  • No physical camera button, like the 3vo
  • No kickstand - I don't see how this simple feature has not become a mainstay on ALL phones...
  • No 3D. Yeah, I know it was just a novelty, but it was one that I really enjoyed. With the technology getting cheaper, I don't see the reason for it to have been completely abandoned.
  • I love that they're going for camera quality, rather than more megapixels, but 4MP does seem a little low.
It's 4 ultra pixels not megapixels, it's about the equivalent of around a 13mp camera... I had a shot today and it looked impressive although I didn't get to see the picture I took on a computer screen, it could be the screen on the phone but it looked infinitely better than the One X camera which was no slouch.
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HTC is inconsistent with their UltraPixel marketing.

I've seen on their announcements and on news blogs where it's called 4 UltraPixels.

Yet also, from Sensor Size Increase on HTC UltraPixel Camera - HTC

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HTC has made a deliberate choice to focus on photo quality with bigger pixel size over just total pixel count. The 1/3’ sensor size on the HTC One is equivalent to the sensor size found on other 8MP or 13MP smartphone cameras.


However, UltraPixels are larger than ordinary pixels, and take up more space on the sensor. So there are less megapixels - the new HTC One takes photos at 4 megapixels resolution, but the quality of each pixel is substantially higher than the industry average.
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So - I don't think that calling it either way is wrong, when they call it either which way.

FWIW - I totally buy the UltraPixel concept.

My wife's first digital camera (that we still have) was an Olympus Stylus 400. 4 MP and a 1/2.5" sensor (compare to 4 MP/UtraPixel and a 1/3" sensor on the One).

We have yet to own any phone that matches that for just plain good picture quality.

The megapixel wars started after we got that camera. We just cared about picture quality and ease of use back then.

I haven't been able to try one like you chaps in the UK, but for specs, the numbers are going in the right direction for my tastes.
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I really like the camera concept, this new Zoe mode seems something really special and could be a deciding factor for me as I have two kids and can't always get the exact snap I want but the camera starting to record as soon as you open the camera app will be very useful.

I wish I had longer with it, was just one the sales advisors desk and I picked it up and asked if I could have a quick look.. kind of got the feeling I wasn't supposed to but even 30 seconds with it showed me a few things that I was interested in seeing.. gotta say the screen is that clear it doesn't look real, kind of like the way the new hobbit film looked
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Ok, this absolutely confirms that the new Snapdragon 600 does not include an on-board world modem like the previous S4 -

Snapdragon 800, 600, 400, 200 Processor Specs | Qualcomm

The 800 won't be out until later this year, so no use hoping on that.

We'll just have to wait and see - but that's not ideal for battery use, imo.
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Ok, this absolutely confirms that the new Snapdragon 600 does not include an on-board world modem like the previous S4 -

Snapdragon 800, 600, 400, 200 Processor Specs | Qualcomm

The 800 won't be out until later this year, so no use hoping on that.

We'll just have to wait and see - but that's not ideal for battery use, imo.
Could you possibly explain what this actually means/translates to,for those here who may be a bit technologically impaired,yours truly being of that camp?


BTW,just loaded this app from SNAPDRAGON from the link you posted.

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Last year's S4 dual core (not the quad-core S4 Pro) had an built-in world modem.

It was a programmable chip that handled _all_ radio transceiver chip interfaces - GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G (both GSM and CDMA), LTE - and it was an integral part of the main processor.

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Other phones, such as the international SGS3 w/ LTE and the Nexus 4, needed to add a specific chip to provide those functions.

That increased parts count, limited RF pathways (and is the reason we expect no SVDO, aka simultaneous voice and data on CDMA 3G, on this model), and did add a bit of power draw.

We'll have to wait for actual user reports to see how this year's crop goes, but with that change-up, it's a factor to consider in power management.
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Last year's S4 dual core (not the quad-core S4 Pro) had an built-in world modem.

It was a programmable chip that handled _all_ radio transceiver chip interfaces - GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G (both GSM and CDMA), LTE - and it was an integral part of the main processor.

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Other phones, such as the international SGS3 w/ LTE and the Nexus 4, needed to add a specific chip to provide those functions.

That increased parts count, limited RF pathways (and is the reason we expect no SVDO, aka simultaneous voice and data on CDMA 3G, on this model), and did add a bit of power draw.

We'll have to wait for actual user reports to see how this year's crop goes, but with that change-up, it's a factor to consider in power management.
THX EM!

Whether this phone ends up needing it or not,I'm guessing the development community will work their magic for both performance & battery improvements.

Looking forward to this phone finally hitting the streets,I'm literally marking the days off the calendar.............
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It's 4 ultra pixels not megapixels, it's about the equivalent of around a 13mp camera... I had a shot today and it looked impressive although I didn't get to see the picture I took on a computer screen, it could be the screen on the phone but it looked infinitely better than the One X camera which was no slouch.
My impression was that it allowed more light in for higher quality pictures, but that you still couldn't blow it up beyond 8" x 10" (or whatever a normal 4MP camera would be) without losing quality.
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My impression was that it allowed more light in for higher quality pictures, but that you still couldn't blow it up beyond 8" x 10" (or whatever a normal 4MP camera would be) without losing quality.
I concur. It seems the ONLY folks who aren't liking the camera much are those that really need a camera, rather than a phone camera. When going to an important, or special event, my wife and I ALWAYS (when we don't forget) carry our camera. The phone is there only to easily post/email/text to family and friends on the fly. But I see no issues (yet) where you can't get a quality 3x5 or 4x6 out of this.
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(and is the reason we expect no SVDO, aka simultaneous voice and data on CDMA 3G, on this model),
But there will be simultaneous voice and data on LTE?

I remember being very excited that WiMax allowed simultaneous voice and data. Having it would completely change the way I am able to do my job, as I often need to be on my laptop and phone at the same time, and I tether to my laptop. Simultaneous voice and data would allow me to leave the house during times that I'm not at the office.

I never did get WiMax in my city.

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But there will be simultaneous voice and data on LTE?

I remember being very excited that WiMax allowed simultaneous voice and data. Having it would completely change the way I am able to do my job, as I often need to be on my laptop and phone at the same time, and I tether to my laptop. Simultaneous voice and data would allow me to leave the house during times that I'm not at the office.

I never did get WiMax in my city.

Yes, normal voice plus 4G data, where available, will work - same as for WiMax.

The coming thing is VoLTE, simultaneous voice and data over LTE alone. Last year at the intro of the LTEvo, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse said that from that phone forward, all Sprint LTE phones would have that capability. I don't know that it's been implemented anywhere on the network yet though.
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How much bandwidth will the phone conversation take, with phone and data both going over LTE?

I guess it would probably be no more than Skype, but I don't know.
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It's 4 ultra pixels not megapixels, it's about the equivalent of around a 13mp camera... I had a shot today and it looked impressive although I didn't get to see the picture I took on a computer screen, it could be the screen on the phone but it looked infinitely better than the One X camera which was no slouch.
No, I'm pretty sure he was right; its 4 megapixels (4.32 to be more precise).

To my knowledge megapixels refers directly and only to the resolution of the pictures taken, and the HTC One gives you 4 MP pictures, not 13 or the equivalent of around 13.

The camera looks like its great (sensor and light reception etc). 4MP doesn't at all mean its bad quality.
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Yeah you're right mate, made that post when it was still a little unclear what it meant.. that was just one of the things I'd read
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Odd question but can anyone who has actually held one of these phones in their hand confirm if there is any plastic along the sides of the phone please? I have held one and don't think there is but one guy on another forum is adamant it does and that he has seen one with cracked plastic. He says that 'zero gap unibody' doesn't necessarily mean there aren't any other materials used in the construction.

No other website anywhere has made any reference to this at all, which is why I think he is deluded but now I am doubting the evidence of my own eyes and would appreciate the input from someone who has used or owns one of these phones please. I know some have been delivered in the UK.
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HTC has said it, it's in one of their statements or videos posted somewhere here.

Those white lines on the back are plastic insulators for the two antennas, same material is used on the sides, and has to be around all sides of the two antennas.
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Thanks Earlymon, i couldn't find anything on it anywhere.
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Cased in a metal body, it's staggeringly good looking. The anodised aluminium unibody makes up the front and back of the device, with a plastic insert that runs around the middle.

Although the message is very much "all metal body" from HTC, there are still plastic breaks, so it's not quite the metal monster it's made out to be. It is, however, solid, with no sign of flex or bending when you manipulate the phone.
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From what I have read the new phone lacks an sd slot. This sounds like it could be a problem for anyone who has a lot of data stored on their current phone.
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its not a problem if one knows how to take advantage of cloud storage. users of the htc one get 25gb of free cloud space for two years. you also have google drive and microsoft sky drive, both of which offer a certain about of space for free.

you also can offload content to your computer.

if one does not want to take advantage of these offerings, this phone is not for them.
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That's unfortunate because I'm definitely not into cloud storage and where I work at there are times when I have no signal and need to access data. Also the area I live in is only 3g and as far as I know not even on the list for the 4G LTE. I was hoping that in the final production version they would incorporate an SD slot into the phone but I guess that didn't happen.
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You just have to use the space you have smarter. I have yet to fill up my 32Gb phone and I carry around well over 10Gb of music, about 5Gb of apps and the rest is free barring a few hundred Mb on docs and the like.

My music collection at home is well over 300Gb but 10Gb is more than enough to carry around 2500 different music tracks on the phone. If, for some unfathomable reason I need more than that, I can add more and not have any issues.

I can see why an SD card is a must have for some people but for me it really isn't.
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I definitely understand about using story space wisely my 32 gig card is nowhere near full. Maybe it's just the fact of it being something new and different and also the pain in the butt it will be to move all that stuff from the card to another phone.
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I definitely understand about using story space wisely my 32 gig card is nowhere near full. Maybe it's just the fact of it being something new and different and also the pain in the butt it will be to move all that stuff from the card to another phone.
Moving forward, we'll be posting our site's tools and methods for you to transfer your existing sd card contents to your new phone.

For most folks, drag and drop and drag using a pc in the middle will do the trick.

Not as fast as moving the sd card over but it's a one time deal and not difficult.
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nothing unfortunate at all. There are more devices coming out that do have SD slots so you have other options as well.

there is still plenty of life left in the evo 4g lte, heck some people still use the original evo. dont feel pressured to get the next latest and greatest thing my friend...

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I guess the unfortunate thing is I'm kind of hooked on HTC phones. wife has a galaxy s3 and I don't like it at all I was looking forward to the next generation HTC. .right now I have the 4g LTE and I'm not real thrilled with it so I was looking for the next replacement. personally I'm still not sure about this non replaceable battery thing fortunately I haven't got into a situation where the battery ran dead no way to charge it as I have with the other phones.
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Pretty interesting info in the battery thread towards the end, check it out.

Plus, at minimum, the One will have more than double the built-in storage as your LTEvo.
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Question Front dual speakers, is this the loudest phone yet?

I like my speakers to be loud because I love to Skype and do video chat.

Before I have to hold my ear close to the phone, which means people are looking at my ear.

Is this the loudest phone yet with dual front speaker? I might get this phone just because of this.
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The sound from the One is awesome!
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I hate you!

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I have been frequenting both the S4 and the HTC One threads on here and other forums as I thought, up until today, that I would want to test both phones before choosing. However, after looking at my viewing habits over the last few days I have been spending 90% of my time on the HTC One forums. I think that tell sme all I need to know.
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Just as an example of the loudness of the One.....my ringtone and message tone for the last couple of years has been the old monophonic Nokia ringtone and "Beep Beep" message tone, i have the One set on the lowest volume level before it is off and it is still too loud!

They are quite piercing tones admittedly, but this thing needs more volume steps!
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Would that be "awesound?" Not to be confused with "aawsound."
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Default Mics in (recording) loud concerts

It looks like the HTC One will do a decent job recording loud music/sounds with its dual mics. I've kind of given up on the camera functions by getting the N4 but maybe I don't have to. I found this on YT.
Ryan Leslie in Concert shot w/ HTC ONE - YouTube


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I've not heard that Megadeth song in years .

I attempted to record part of The Stone Roses concert I went to see last year using my One X, the results were beyond terrible. Ian Brown doesn't have the greatest of voices at the best of times, but for some reason, him, the drummer and occassionally my dulcet tones were pretty much the only thing you could hear properly . I think it's something called AGC where it cuts out/lowers the volume of certain frequencies if they go over a certain level.

The One certainly sounds like a marked improvement. Potentially a bit hissy, but that could just be background noise at the concert anyway.
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HTC One will get OpenGL ES 3.0 support [Video]- The Inquirer
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HTC One will get OpenGL ES 3.0 support [Video]- The Inquirer
OpenGL ES 3.0 should be of interest to gamers.
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Default Bluetooth AVRCP version?

Does anyone know if this phone supports Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3 or higher? My car can display track info and album art when I use Bluetooth audio, but the Nexus 4 (or really stock Android) only supports AVRCP 1.0. This means I can play audio through my car over bluetooth, but I can't see track information. I previously had a Galaxy S3 and that supported AVRCP 1.3. I'm hoping HTC has made this modification to the One. Does anyone know?
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Good question. Up until now we've had to rely on a CM rom for that, HTC just gave the AOSP stack. Sorry, don't know.
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