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Old April 23rd, 2013, 03:29 PM   #151 (permalink)
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And you are partially correct.

I have posted this in many locations to inform people of what can happen to your battery due to the signal.

It is not just a cut and dry low signal more power thus higher battery drain. nope..

The other two factors are radio switching. Yes this is a bad thing and it happens a lot in the US due to LTE signals being weaker as they are higher in the spectrum. So what happens that can cause a battery drain in a fluctuating signal location.... lots.
First when ever the LTE signal drops to a lower signal the phone will wake up completely(not the screen) to do a dynamic check of the 3G signal then compare and switch. This process can take 5-20 seconds and usually both radios will turn on and go full on transmit power to poll all towers in the area. Now imagine if this happens a lot because you are in a crappy "fringe" signal area of 4G. You guessed it tons of high powered battery draining CPU full on system wake lock till it can decide what to do.
In the US this happens a lot, well, because we have LTE but the coverage is not that great. Plus the 4G radio will wake and poll every minute to see if there is a signal, but usually this wake will be a listen only mode with no transmitting.

The second thing that will kill your battery is the bandwidth. If an app has to wake due to a push notification then has to hit the server to retrieve the info that takes time. That time spent retrieving whatever it was that it received a request about can be big or small. regardless of that it still needs to pull data down. This can be bad if the tower your getting your data from is crowded or old/out dated and slow. The longer the app has to run the longer it drains the battery and if the bandwidth sucks even though the signal is great then your going to have battery drain.

Now why is the second one important. Well you have a smartphone. It polls and runs apps and retrieves data in the background all the time. If it has a hard time doing this then it has to stay awake longer to get the job done and thus battery drain.

What can you do about this... well nothing short of finding a carrier that has better signal/bandwidth/coverage in your area. Keep WiFi on all the time so it can latch onto any open WiFi it can find. Or turn off your data, which of coarse kills the point of having a nice smartphone that is always keeping you up to date.

Remember that 3G is still on even when LTE/WiFi is on, but if 3G in your area sucks for speed(bandwidth) then you'll likely have greater battery drain do to wake locks and therefore leaving LTE/WiFi on would be the lesser of two evils.
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Ok, so am I putting two and two together and sensing a pattern to this thread? Our brothers overseas seem to be getting days and days out of one charge, but here in the USA, folks are getting hours, not days. Is this an LTE thing? If I were to get the battery life of Scoot or Crafty, I would be lovin life!
We don't have LTE yet in Winnipeg, Canada where I live and so far I've been getting 12-13 hours with extremely heavy use (Streaming video, calls, endless Whatsapp chat sessions, internet browsing, picture/video taking).

In fact, my first go around for battery-testing, I'd pull it out and play with it whenever I thought about it to simulate "heavy use" when in reality it was far more than I'd ever use a phone on a normal day-to-day basis.

I'm at 50% from when I pulled it off the charger at 6:30 this morning, so it's about 10 hours of use. I'd say 90% of that time has been on Wifi, so not even 4G...nevermind LTE.

I'll post a screenshot of my battery use at the end of the day, depending on if I've made enough posts here that I'm allowed to post a picture
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So we are three for three with you UK brothers and awesome 1+ days of battery life, yet the US based users who have been reporting in are not even getting a day. I was hoping one of our radio experts would chime in on this, but it seems to me that this must be radio related.
Even while driving, with GPS (with screen constant) on, my One still lasted WAY past what my 3VO did. That being said, I have noticed, that the power saving feature does a GREAT job of doing just that, but the screen can be hard to see in the outdoors. After a full day at home working (I'm home-based), my One is at 65% around 4 this afternoon when I decided to top it. It hasn't sit on the desk much between me playing with it, texts, a call or two and trying to find the "perfect" weather app that doesn't exist... So, I'm VERY happy with my results thus far. But my expectations have never been that high since I started in smartphones with a Pre!!!
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I am surprised at my battery life, all day, playing movies, browsing, email and texting. Have you used the power saver feature on the One? Try that. Also, operating systems play a big role in efficiency. The One is getting OTA to 4.2.2 very soon and it brings on more power efficiency . The largest thing about battery life is the user, of course the screen is the biggest hog, so don't put it on auto, use the lowest setting you can for the conditions.
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i'm surprised by peoples battery life. i have the htc one and the battery has been great. the moment i bought my phone and took it home, i downloaded hulu and netflix. ran them for 5hrs straight till the battery died. it takes about 2-3hrs to charge my phone from dead to full.

from yesterday, i moderately used my phone, surfing the net, surfing the play store, and a few youtube videos plus the phone being idle overnight without being charged. and today, i watched a tv show via hulu in the morning and more light surfing then it sat idle-uncharged while i was at work. my phone is just now reaching 15%.

i live the US
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battery life for me has been great, which for me means it can last from the time I wake to the time I go to bed, regardless of what I'm doing...I've had it off charger since 11 am and currently I have 58 percent left....I keep off NFC, use wifi at home, don't do social networking...brightness at 40%....includes about 2 hrs in the gym on mobile data and listening to music....no concerns here whatsoever...
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We don't have LTE yet in Winnipeg, Canada where I live and so far I've been getting 12-13 hours with extremely heavy use (Streaming video, calls, endless Whatsapp chat sessions, internet browsing, picture/video taking).

In fact, my first go around for battery-testing, I'd pull it out and play with it whenever I thought about it to simulate "heavy use" when in reality it was far more than I'd ever use a phone on a normal day-to-day basis.

I'm at 50% from when I pulled it off the charger at 6:30 this morning, so it's about 10 hours of use. I'd say 90% of that time has been on Wifi, so not even 4G...nevermind LTE.

I'll post a screenshot of my battery use at the end of the day, depending on if I've made enough posts here that I'm allowed to post a picture

Died at about 15 hours. The last 3 hours of use were non-stop whatsapp and message board posting, all on mobile data.

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i'm surprised by peoples battery life. i have the htc one and the battery has been great. the moment i bought my phone and took it home, i downloaded hulu and netflix. ran them for 5hrs straight till the battery died. it takes about 2-3hrs to charge my phone from dead to full.

from yesterday, i moderately used my phone, surfing the net, surfing the play store, and a few youtube videos plus the phone being idle overnight without being charged. and today, i watched a tv show via hulu in the morning and more light surfing then it sat idle-uncharged while i was at work. my phone is just now reaching 15%.

i live the US
God damn you're getting good life. Mind posting your settings and downloading GSam battery monitor and then posting screenshots of the app usage percentages and the graphs? I know this seems like much but if you can do this I'd really appreciate it (and others might too).
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Right now I'm on 20hrs with 27% everyday it seems to be getting better
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Now let's remember a lot of us, me included, have been using the Power Saver mode. Granted, I tweak it to allow for "vibrate buttons" and for data to be on even in sleep mode, so I guess the only power save feature I'm using is the auto-screen dimmer as well as the lower CPU use.

I'm trying to go a full day now with Power Saver mode OFF and see what happens. The screen brightness already seems a bit excessive/unnecessary, but I'll leave it where it's supposed to be just in order to finish this test.
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Now let's remember a lot of us, me included, have been using the Power Saver mode. Granted, I tweak it to allow for "vibrate buttons" and for data to be on even in sleep mode, so I guess the only power save feature I'm using is the auto-screen dimmer as well as the lower CPU use.

I'm trying to go a full day now with Power Saver mode OFF and see what happens. The screen brightness already seems a bit excessive/unnecessary, but I'll leave it where it's supposed to be just in order to finish this test.
I've been using it with it off I'm trying it today with it on see how it goes

I never monitored my battery so much but a lot a people have been obsessing over it and I find myself paying more attention to it...
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Checking in from Iowa with my AT&T One. I picked it up on Saturday and have charged it twice since then. I am averaging about 2.5 days per charge, granted I work in an area that I can't have my phone on me but I keep it on and in a pocket with medium to low service. This allows the radios to be switching all the time as the data attempts to connect and receive. *Results vary and may not be typical in all areas :P

I'll keep checking into it but as soon as I am off work, I have been using the phone intensively: cutomizing, setting up and testing new features. I would say in 5 days, I have done pretty well.
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Ok using my power saver all day today I didn't see a drastic change at all strangely enough I got roughly the same results. Ah we'll I'm done monitoring my battery it's lasting me throughtout the day that's good for me. I'll put it to the test when I use it for geocaching though
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I've been using it with it off I'm trying it today with it on see how it goes

I never monitored my battery so much but a lot a people have been obsessing over it and I find myself paying more attention to it...
So guess what..I turned off power saver mode, and after 18 hours of use I still had 12% left! Probably just less use, now that I've done the bulk of my configuring, but still...from some of the negative battery reviews I've read before buying, I'm extremely satisfied with how my phone uses power.
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Well here are my results after a week.


Photo Album - Imgur and here are other screenshots from GSam. I have absolutely no idea if this is good battery life or bad or mediocre. I see people saying they get 4 hours of screen time with extensive use playing pandora, streaming, games etc. But seeing as I lasted ~40 hours and not 14 idk.
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Though this past week had been anything but typical, I figured I'd post my results. Not as good as some, but still really pleased. Today was actually a "normal" day, and I'm still at 50 % 13 hours plus!
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So just another update:

As some of you know the first HTC One I received on 15th March had excellent battery life but the mic's didn't work and external speakers made 'popping' sounds while playing video. I exchanged it for a black One 1st week of April but noticed that the battery was struggling and would only last around 8-12 hours with normal use despite having battery saver on.

I exchanged it for another black One 4 days ago and am glad to say that this phone has the awesome battery performance of the first One I had.
Currently I'm sitting 33 hours with 7.5 hours screen on and battery level is at 34%, auto brightness and power saver off. I did try with auto saver on but to be honest I haven't noticed any significant improvement and I don't really see how I could expect to squeeze more out of it aside from just not using it.

I've noticed quite a few people wanting the black One but upon playing with the store dummy models and noticing the finger prints all over it, have decided against the black. Just remember the dummy model and actual retail unit are different. Cheap material and painted dummy phones do show finger prints especially when people just came from shoving their faces at Mcdonalds or KFC and don't wash their hands.

The retail black unit is anodised and does not show finger prints as easily as expected and can definitely confirm that it doesn't scratch easily as I stupidly put my phone in my pocket with some coins, when I arrived home and removed the phone from my pocket I was horrified at what looked like scuffs and scratches but actually wiped off straight away.
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So just another update:

As some of you know the first HTC One I received on 15th March had excellent battery life but the mic's didn't work and external speakers made 'popping' sounds while playing video. I exchanged it for a black One 1st week of April but noticed that the battery was struggling and would only last around 8-12 hours with normal use despite having battery saver on.

I exchanged it for another black One 4 days ago and am glad to say that this phone has the awesome battery performance of the first One I had.
Currently I'm sitting 33 hours with 7.5 hours screen on and battery level is at 34%, auto brightness and power saver off. I did try with auto saver on but to be honest I haven't noticed any significant improvement and I don't really see how I could expect to squeeze more out of it aside from just not using it.

I've noticed quite a few people wanting the black One but upon playing with the store dummy models and noticing the finger prints all over it, have decided against the black. Just remember the dummy model and actual retail unit are different. Cheap material and painted dummy phones do show finger prints especially when people just came from shoving their faces at Mcdonalds or KFC and don't wash their hands.

The retail black unit is anodised and does not show finger prints as easily as expected and can definitely confirm that it doesn't scratch easily as I stupidly put my phone in my pocket with some coins, when I arrived home and removed the phone from my pocket I was horrified at what looked like scuffs and scratches but actually wiped off straight away.
You've got to show a screenshot or something of the 7.5 hour screen time with app usage. I'm sure we are all curious as to what is going on with your amazing battery. I can do 40 hours with 3 hours of screen time and power saver on with all the haptic and GPS stuff turned off.
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Fwiw, I've found that turning off GPS hasn't made a big difference on my last few HTCs.

But on my last one, I've turned off NFC except when needed and that helps.
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So just another update:

As some of you know the first HTC One I received on 15th March had excellent battery life but the mic's didn't work and external speakers made 'popping' sounds while playing video. I exchanged it for a black One 1st week of April but noticed that the battery was struggling and would only last around 8-12 hours with normal use despite having battery saver on.

I exchanged it for another black One 4 days ago and am glad to say that this phone has the awesome battery performance of the first One I had.
Currently I'm sitting 33 hours with 7.5 hours screen on and battery level is at 34%, auto brightness and power saver off. I did try with auto saver on but to be honest I haven't noticed any significant improvement and I don't really see how I could expect to squeeze more out of it aside from just not using it.

I've noticed quite a few people wanting the black One but upon playing with the store dummy models and noticing the finger prints all over it, have decided against the black. Just remember the dummy model and actual retail unit are different. Cheap material and painted dummy phones do show finger prints especially when people just came from shoving their faces at Mcdonalds or KFC and don't wash their hands.

The retail black unit is anodised and does not show finger prints as easily as expected and can definitely confirm that it doesn't scratch easily as I stupidly put my phone in my pocket with some coins, when I arrived home and removed the phone from my pocket I was horrified at what looked like scuffs and scratches but actually wiped off straight away.
Hi, how did you manage to convince phones4u your battery was faulty? I bought a black one last Friday and am averaging 15hrs, not sure if this is normal but certainly not getting close to your times. Wondering if I should try exchanging. Is it easy to restore your settings?
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My use over the last few days has been somewhat erratic but I thought you might want to see what I finally managed to achieve earlier today. I've tried to do this before but had to turn the phone off on a number of occasions due to work restrictions. This time, I managed to keep it on. Power save went on at 15% automatically but I turned it straight off. The battery was at 12% when I went to bed last night and I turned power save back on and it's been on ever since. I've going to wring every last drop out of this battery but I might not get the chance to post again today, hence this post.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, this battery and phone absolutely BLOWS my iPhone 5 out of the water, and that was an awesome phone! Now i've had it for about six weeks, it does everything my iPhone did, just faster, crisper and better. The battery is maybe three time better than the iPhone, the screen is clearer and bigger, it's faster and pretty much in every way better.

Apple will really have to pull something out of the bag to make me want to go back to an iPhone. I honestly never thought i'd say that after owning the catastrophe that was my Galaxy S3; I couldn't wait to get rid of it and get an iPhone again.

The HTC One allays all my fears over Android as this phone has only missed a beat once in the last six weeks and that was in the first week when the Productive lockscreen froze the phone, necessitating a reboot. That was probably down to me dicking about with the phone though, rather than the software.

I'm sorry that you poor chaps with AT&T bloatware are getting bad battery life but i'd like to think you can be reasonably certain that it is the bloat causing bad battery rather than the phone itself.

Anyway, enjoy!

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Hope I've not caught you too late, and I don't mean to sound alarmist, but please don't force your battery down to zero. Cheers!
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Nope, i'll have to put it on charge in the next hour or so as i'm off out later
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So, I was going to mention this earlier, but when I got my phone, the battery was at 75 percent, in a matter of a few hours it was down to 20 percent, I figured it was just because I was updating, downloading, installing, and setting up my phone. I then threw it on the charger and went to bed, the next morning, I went to work. While in my pocket the phone became almost unbearably hot, and within three hours the charge was down to 40 percent, as far as Icould tell there were no apps running. I put it on a charger and let it charge while streaming from the Iheartradio app, after a few hours I took it off the charger and put it in my pocket. Since then I have not had any issues with it getting unbearably hot, and the battery life has been on par with what many of you are getting. What in the world was the 3 hours discharge and extreme heat thing all about?
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Probably a runaway app, most likely what we call a race condition. Apps naturally parallelize using constructs that we call threads. Think of it this way - for listening to music, the app may have a thread for the display updates, a thread to sense inputs and one for actually playing music. (That's an insanely simplified fictional example, but good enough for the idea - threads can run in parallel.)

And quite often, threads will rendezvous with one another for control purposes.

Every so often, you get a bug where they won't, they just hang waiting for each other.

Or, you can get the condition where they spin out of control missing the rendezvous at top speed - and Android will automagically distribute threads across CPU cores. And spinning threads racing each other can and will do that across multiple cores at top speed. Drawing max power and dissipating it as heat.

If it comes back, you have a flakey app somewhere.

If it doesn't, you could have just had a single bit in ram stuck for a while, and coincidentally at the point that would induce the race condition.
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Race conditions vs. battery... battery loses :P

While (1) { } can be bad if your not careful
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Ive gotten hooked on a new game which only allows me about 10 hours of battery life haha, but without the game I was getting 19-20 hours easy.
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Well this is a weird one...I'm a minimalist, no social media, no real syncs going on, screen brigjness is about 50%.

I just finished watching a video with my phone fresh of the charger and at 100% and now after this roughly 20min video my phone is at 84%?

Is this normal ONE owners?
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Well I don't get near as good of battery life as some on here but it's still better than my Evo LTE so I can't complain. I don't have good signal at work but as soon as I get there I get on wifi which isn't the best sometimes and my phone stays in my pocket. Yesterday I was at 15% at only 7 1/2 hours and I didn't use my phone much except on dinner break and a couple other quick breaks. But I always had to charge mine phone at work using my Anker or plugging it in on dinner break but now I leave with about 30% and then charge it when I get home. But It last longer than my EVO LTE SO I'm good. But not at work and being out for a day I would love to get 10-12 hours or more. We don't have 4G here and my signal isn't always that great. Now I got an air rave in my house and phone not plugged in over night went from 90 something to 85 while sleeping. Phone was on wifi but before I had left phone unplugged overnight and it had been dead by morning on one of my EVO's.

But I love this phone and I am always near a plug usually or have my Anker so I'm good.
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This article echoes the notion that an otherwise identical phone,a GSM equipped model typically fares better than its CDMA counterpart & is one of the reasons I moved from SPRINT to T-MOBILE (BTW,SPRINT is COOL,just doesn't have the coverage that T-MOBILE has in my area):

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I have a question about the batteries. So I've heard reviews of how good the batter is for the One, and how it lasts people a day and even a bit more but I'm not sure if it's just my phone.

Basically, I charge my phone overnight. When I wake up at 6:00, its fully charged. Throughout school, however, I notice the battery percent lowering after every period of time. By the end of school, which is around 2:30, it would have around 50ish% (yesterday) to 25% (today) left and I don't even use it that heavily. The reason for the 25% today is because I've been using Snapchat during classes, but the battery percentage being that low after school contradicts what other reviews are saying about the One's battery life, which can supposedly take heavy usage and last a day.

Is there something wrong with my device, or is this normal for everyone else?
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I have a question about the batteries. So I've heard reviews of how good the batter is for the One, and how it lasts people a day and even a bit more but I'm not sure if it's just my phone.

Basically, I charge my phone overnight. When I wake up at 6:00, its fully charged. Throughout school, however, I notice the battery percent lowering after every period of time. By the end of school, which is around 2:30, it would have around 50ish% (yesterday) to 25% (today) left and I don't even use it that heavily. The reason for the 25% today is because I've been using Snapchat during classes, but the battery percentage being that low after school contradicts what other reviews are saying about the One's battery life, which can supposedly take heavy usage and last a day.

Is there something wrong with my device, or is this normal for everyone else?
Without knowing everything that's going on w/your phone,the best thing you can do is download a battery app such as BETTER BATTERY STATS or GSam BATTERY MONITOR,run it for a few days,as prescribed per each app,& then post some screenshots here for troubleshooting by the community.
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Without knowing everything that's going on w/your phone,the best thing you can do is download a battery app such as BETTER BATTERY STATS or GSam BATTERY MONITOR,run it for a few days,as prescribed per each app,& then post some screenshots here for troubleshooting by the community.
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I have a question about the batteries. So I've heard reviews of how good the batter is for the One, and how it lasts people a day and even a bit more but I'm not sure if it's just my phone.

Basically, I charge my phone overnight. When I wake up at 6:00, its fully charged. Throughout school, however, I notice the battery percent lowering after every period of time. By the end of school, which is around 2:30, it would have around 50ish% (yesterday) to 25% (today) left and I don't even use it that heavily. The reason for the 25% today is because I've been using Snapchat during classes, but the battery percentage being that low after school contradicts what other reviews are saying about the One's battery life, which can supposedly take heavy usage and last a day.

Is there something wrong with my device, or is this normal for everyone else?
Battery life really depends on many things. If you are at the edge of reception (week signal) the phone uses much more battery trying to stay connected cause it keeps looking for a better signal. Also, is your WiFi and Bluetooth on when they are not connected to anything? If so, they can use batter too.. you may want to toggle them of during the day.

Also, the more services you run that are syncing, like, twitter, facebook, news, etc, the more battery it will use. Also, the brighter you keep your screen the more batter is used. Set you screen dim time to dim quickly so it isn't on very long when you stop using it.

I assume snapchat uses data and not SMS?

I highly recommend Juice Defender... it will manage turning your data off and turning it on every 15 minutes to allow for sync. But, if you need up to the second chat notices, then you probably won't like that.

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I am aware that the one is rated for 5volts at 1amp
However, will the phones battery be adversly affected by using chargers rated for different amperages (i.e. my old phones 500ma or a note 2's 2.1a)
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I'll answer this one,as EarlyMon so kindly educated myself & others here on the subject:

It won't hurt either way.The .5amp charger will take longer,but,the 2A charger will not charge your phone any faster than the one provided w/your phone (1A).

The 2A charger is safe to use,been using the GN2 2A charger on my HTC ONE since day one.
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I'll answer this one,as EarlyMon so kindly educated myself & others here on the subject:

It won't hurt either way.The .5amp charger will take longer,but,the 2A charger will not charge your phone any faster than the one provided w/your phone (1A).

The 2A charger is safe to use,been using the GN2 2A charger on my HTC ONE since day one.
Thanks! I was worried the different amperages could fry something :/
Changes in voltage are a whole other beast though arent they?
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To say my expertise in ALL THINGS ELECTRICAL is lacking would be an understatement.....

Here's the quote I was referencing Earlier



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Voltage is force pushed by the charger.

Current (in amperes or milli-amperes) is drawn by the device.

If the device is designed to draw a maximum of 1 A, then giving it a 2 A supply changes nothing, it will only draw 1 A.

If it's designed to draw more than 1 A, then giving it more than the standard HTC charger (what crafty and all other HTC owners get) will let it charge faster.

Battery degradation is largely a function of heat and charging cycles. If it stays cool charging, then the battery lifetime isn't materially changed, regardless.
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Yeah, it's nice that you can change the background and text color to text messages. If you are a heavy texter, using a black background instead of white should save a ton of battery juice. I thought that I knew jelly bean well. Guess I didn't explore the new OS or is this a new feature HTC added?
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Hi Tlicious1020- I thought I'd mention an unexpected/non-intuitive thing about LCD screens. Believe it or not, it actually takes a little more power to make black (as opposed to white). This is because, the way LCD works is, there a light source and, in front of that is the LCD components. To make black, the pixels on the LCD screen must fully-block all of the light coming from behind that point (by having two, perpendicular, polarized layers, one of which is permanent). Doing this requires the maximum voltage. To make pure white, the LCD is simply "open", allowing all of the light to shine through (requiring no voltage). For some shade in between, some other voltage (between 0 and max) is used. This is why some LCDs are better at making black then others (the better ones are more efficient at blocking all of the light).

Anyway- to sum up: it may be a little unintuitive, but a completely black screen consumes the most power whereas a completely white screen consumes the least amount of power.
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...Just to clarify, that would be a completely black screen with the backlight on, and it also depends on the resting state of the pixels, which I don't know for the new super LCD 3 technology (some LCD's have the resting state with the pixel off, some have it with the pixel on)

The actual shutter for the LCD use so little power you would never notice the difference though...

However it is completely the different for AMOLED screens, since each pixel produces its own light.


Here is a fun little site to look at, made by someone that has way too much time on their hands...

http://stevemould.com/phone-battery-save-black-wallpaper/


And here is a page from Nokia regarding AMOLED screens vs older TFT screens with a nice picture graph

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/long-live-your-mobile-battery/2010/06/07/color-makes-a-difference
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I was very frustrated when I found this out while using my Eris years ago. If it hasn't already been clarified, the screen brightness setting does still have a significant impact on battery life.
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How does this phone compare to the iPhone 5 battery wise? I currently have a 5 and its a great phone. I'm just tired of the boring OS that I'm wondering if Apple is ever going to change.

Anyway I'm looking to jump ship from Verizon (and unlimited data) and move over to AT&T to get the One. Just curious about battery life as I am no where near WiFi during work hours.

I had an S3 before and really hated the poor battery life which lead to me trading it for a 5.
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The two common denominators for battery life are on-screen time & quality of data/network connection.

If it were me,I'd stay w/VZW & the unlimited data,provided the network quality is up to par in the area(s) you'll be frequenting.

Phones come & go & are only as good as the network you're on.

With that said & if you've already decided to jump ship to AT&T,GSM network (AT&T/T-MOBILE) phones are reportedly better on the battery VS their CDMA counterparts (VZW/SPRINT).

ENGADGET has a review comparing the different networks performance,including battery life & the AT&T version fared well in their test:


HTC One for AT&T and Sprint: what's different?

Here's the excerpt from the review regarding battery life:

One of the reasons Engadget runs separate mini-reviews for US versions of phones is that while the overall design and camera performance might remain the same, battery life can often vary from one network to another. Indeed, we noticed some slight differences after putting the US models through their paces. While the 2,300mAh battery in the global model lasted six and a half hours in our usual rundown test (video looping, brightness fixed at 50 percent, etc.), our AT&T review unit lasted an average of seven hours and 29 minutes, besting the global model by about an hour. As for real-world use, the AT&T model carried on like a champ, lasting through a full day of maps use, podcasts, photo-taking, Facebook, Twitter, app downloads and speed tests. Even after eight hours, we still had about half a charge left. On the Sprint model, meanwhile, we achieved similar runtime of seven hours and five minutes in the same standardized rundown test.

After getting a production model of the SPRINT variant,ENGADGET updated the review to add the following:

Update: After testing a final, production-grade version of the Sprint model, we've updated our review with conclusive battery life results. It lasted seven hours and five minutes in our standard rundown test, similar to both the AT&T and global versions.


Please keep us posted & visit the actual users thread for your thoughts on the HTC ONE:

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Wow thanks for all that info was a good read!

I haven't committed to switching to AT&T yet. Although in my area AT&T does have better service.

I really really like the phone from playing with it. I got bored with my old S3 really fast. I didn't even have it a month before switching back to the iPhone. I hated battery life on it. Ended up getting the extended battery for it. Anyone that had an S3 before how does the battery life compare to it? A lot better or about the same?

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I had the S3 on SPRINT before making the switch to the HTC ONE on T-MOBILE.

I switched for the better coverage in my area, so, it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but, perhaps similar to your situation switching from VZW to AT&T.

The better coverage makes all the difference in battery life, as I'm getting 3-4 hrs more life.

A co-worker has an otherwise identical S3 on VZW & never needs to charge up during the day. I had to plug-in after about 7 hrs when on SPRINT w/the S3 & ended up getting extended batteries to make it through the day.

So, depending on how you use your phone during fhe course of the day will be the biggest factor in determining whether you'll be able to make it through a day w/o looking for an outlet to plug-in to before making it home for the day.

If a typical (work) day consists of having multiple email accounts syncing/sending-receiving texts/voice calls & light-to-medium on-screen time, you should be able to make it all day. But, as w/any smartphone, if on-screen time is high w/heavy use (gaming/videos,etc) you'll want to have access to a wall outlet/external battery pack, or, perhaps an extended battery case such as the one that MOPHIE or i-BLASON offers for an added sense of security for battery life.

In summary, I believe battery life is better than the S3,but, w/o having both phones side by side on the same network to perform an identical battery life test, I can't give a definitive run time comparison, only an educated guess based on past experience, & I'd say YES, the HTC ONE has a better battery life w/estimated 20% improvement over the S3.
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I easily make it 15 hours with relatively heavy usage. My Galaxy Nexus on Sprint I would have to charge after 7-8 hours and that was with a 2100MAH battery.
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I work in an old military building that was an alert facility during the Cold War era. This building has pretty thick walls and some made out of concrete. Seemed as though most of the iPhone users had to keep their phones plugged into an outlet due to pretty much zero signal strength in our building using AT&T. Since I was on Sprint my EVO 3D would jump back and forth between Sprint/Verizon due to the location of my office. This strains the battery a bit. However, my HTC One doesnt jump between the networks as often and I prefer it that way. Is it possible that HTC added this type of feature to the phone in some way? Basically, the phone does not search as often for a network signal or quits attempting after so many attempts. When I go outside all of my test messages start to come in and this doesn't bother me one bit because the phones battery does well inside of my building despite virtually nill coverage.
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I work in an old military building that was an alert facility during the Cold War era. This building has pretty thick walls and some made out of concrete.Sine I was on Sprint my EVO 3D would jump back and forth between Sprint/Verizon due to the location of my office. This strains the battery a bit. However, my HTC One doesnt jump between the networks as often and I prefer it that way. Is it possible that HTC added this type of feature to the phone in some way? Basically, the phone does not search as often for a network signal or quits attempting after so many attempts. When I go outside all of my test messages start to come in and this doesn't bother me one bit because the phones battery does well inside of my building despite virtually nill coverage.
This scenario was exactly what I was experiencing @ work on my S3 & was the main reason I switched to T-MOBILE. It's good to hear that this 'smart search' prevents battery drain. Perhaps I might have stayed w/SPRINT another 2yrs had I known the ONE would behave in this manner.
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