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Hi guys,

Just got my HTC One last week. It rocks, but I was a little disappointed when playing with its features to discover that the NFC function didn't appear to work in terms of being able to beam things...

I tried with a mate's LG Nexus 4 and also a Galaxy (S3?) but no joy... From reading the phone's Help page it appears that you just need to turn NFC on and hold the phones together (it says if the other phone has Android Beam this should also be on). There also doesn't appear to be an Android Beam option along with the NFC stuff on the HTC One (from the Help file it looks like it doesn't need it) but no paring appeared to be talking place despite following the insructions?

Any clues anyone please/anyone been successful??

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Hopefully someone can chime in soon, but I've heard of issues trying to send things between samsung phones and not-samsung phones. Evidently their S-beam technology (what they use on their phones) doesn't play well with others. I'm not sure whether or not HTC has it's own proprietary NFC system as well, so hopefully someone can chime in and help.
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With Android Beam, if you're running an app and touch another phone, it'll open that app or take take it to the Store to get it.

You can share contacts and photos.

You can make another phone open the same YouTube vid you're watching.

Samsung's s-beam will share about sort of file, but it's proprietary to Samsung.

To share anything to anything in a standard fashion, consider using a Bluetooth sharing app. (Personally, I share between our phones using FTP. It's harder to use and set up if you've not done much of it, but I started on that years back and it works for me.)

Android Beam can help the other phone over to the Store to get a comparable app.

NFC is also very cool for using NFC tags. Hang them on your keychain, sticker them by the door, use a simple setup program so that when your phone touches the tag, it changes into car mode, your home settings, whatever works for you.
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I thought it was only HTC to HTC, or Samsung to Samsung. I didn't think two different brands could communicate through nfc. Having said that...will the one be able to send files to the EVO LTE through nfc?
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I thought it was only HTC to HTC, or Samsung to Samsung. I didn't think two different brands could communicate through nfc. Having said that...will the one be able to send files to the EVO LTE through nfc?
I've got two Evo 4G LTE phones and I can't send any old file between them, just as described above.

My wife and I read a lot (Moon+ Reader for the win) and get lots of free, public-domain books through Feedbooks and Project Gutenberg. Would love to be able just NFC share those books for example - but there's absolutely no way with Android Beam. Wifi and FTP to the rescue for me.

Here's all HTC offers on the subject -

https://support.htc.com/en/080-HTC_One_X/0M0/050


Here's what Android Beam is as a standard app on any Android -

How to Use Android Beam to Wirelessly Transfer Content Between Devices

Which covers what I said above.

Some devs are working on apps that use NFC to pair two devices, then hand off the actual file transfer to Bluetooth. I haven't tried any of those yet, but not sure I see I see the point. You can share via Bluetooth or wifi already with apps that work. Maybe when those others have time to mature, they'll be better, faster, easier.


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I've got two Evo 4G LTE phones and I can't send any old file between them, just as described above.

My wife and I read a lot (Moon+ Reader for the win) and get lots of free, public-domain books through Feedbooks and Project Gutenberg. Would love to be able just NFC share those books for example - but there's absolutely no way with Android Beam. Wifi and FTP to the rescue for me.



Here's all HTC offers on the subject -

https://support.htc.com/en/080-HTC_One_X/0M0/050


Here's what Android Beam is as a standard app on any Android -

How to Use Android Beam to Wirelessly Transfer Content Between Devices

Which covers what I said above.

Some devs are working on apps that use NFC to pair two devices, then hand off the actual file transfer to Bluetooth. I haven't tried any of those yet, but not sure I see I see the point. You can share via Bluetooth or wifi already with apps that work. Maybe when those others have time to mature, they'll be better, faster, easier.


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I have two EVO ltes also. I can share pics, contacts, web sites, and YouTube vids through nfc. It would not work with my EVO LTE and my friends Samsung. My question is will these services work via nfc between the One and the EVO LTE
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I have two EVO ltes also. I can share pics, contacts, web sites, and YouTube vids through nfc. It would not work with my EVO LTE and my friends Samsung. My question is will these services work via nfc between the One and the EVO LTE
I share mostly photos with the wife phone from my EVO LTE with her Samsung SIII. I was at the Penn & Teller show last night and got the person sitting behind us to take a photo with my EVOLTE. The wife wanted it to put up on Facebook so I transferred it to her via NFC. It took about 20 seconds to complete. You have to make sure you have NFC turned on with both phones then touch them together with the pic you want to send open. A box at the top will say touch to send and all you do is touch the pic and it starts the transfer to the SIII.
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I share mostly photos with the wife phone from my EVO LTE with her Samsung SIII. I was at the Penn & Teller show last night and got the person sitting behind us to take a photo with my EVOLTE. The wife wanted it to put up on Facebook so I transferred it to her via NFC. It took about 20 seconds to complete. You have to make sure you have NFC turned on with both phones then touch them together with the pic you want to send open. A box at the top will say touch to send and all you do is touch the pic and it starts the transfer to the SIII.
oh okay. Thanks. That's good to know. I guess my friend with the Samsung didn't have his turned off. So then the One should work with the evo LTE
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My One acknowledged wifey's s3 mini with nfc but not much happened when I hit 'touch to beam'. The screen image did reduce in size like it was being send over but it didn't appear to be received. It was a bookmark link I think.
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My One acknowledged wifey's s3 mini with nfc but not much happened when I hit 'touch to beam'. The screen image did reduce in size like it was being send over but it didn't appear to be received. It was a bookmark link I think.
Interesting...

To further clarify my first post, the Nexus 4>Samsung S3 managed to NFC (via Android Beam) a pic to each other, but the HTC One didn't show that it had even detected the Nexus 4 when placed back to back, with NFC on the One switched on (there is no AB option) and NFC & Android Beam on the Nexus 4 on also...

Here is the HTC One help article - https://support.htc.com/en/005-HTC_One/0G0/040 as far as I can see I have been doing things correctly...

My point being it seems to suggest that Android Beam needs to be switched on, on the other device, but makes no mention of AB for the HTC One... and nothing seems to happen when the phones are touched together...
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Setup for the One X has an on/off for NFC and another for Android Beam when NFC is on.

The way that article is written suggests that Android Beam is on when NFC is, for the One.
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Yeah, that's how I interpreted it too... so I would have expected it to just work... that said there is an interesting subnote in HTC One specs that mentions NFC "depends on mobile operator and location" but this is pretty odd...?!
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Setup for the One X has an on/off for NFC and another for Android Beam when NFC is on.

The way that article is written suggests that Android Beam is on when NFC is, for the One.
Yep. Seems strange on wifey's s3 mini to have to turn on nfc THEN turn on beam. One just has nfc on/off I think.

Edit: then s beam too?!

On my One I had to hold the phone back to back but turned 90 degrees to get nfc to activate.
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Interesting, will give it a try...
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I have a galaxy nexus and I can not beam to a Samsung galaxy s3 but I can beam to a Motorola RAZR m. So I think Samsung is screwing it up.
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My One acknowledged wifey's s3 mini with nfc but not much happened when I hit 'touch to beam'. The screen image did reduce in size like it was being send over but it didn't appear to be received. It was a bookmark link I think.
The funny thing is you don't actually hit the words "touch to beam" you hit the picture you want to send and then it will start the connection. I know it took a couple of tries for me to figure this out but once I did it worked fine.
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From the User Manual:
Beaming content
Make sure that both devices are unlocked and have NFC turned on. If the other
device has an Android Beam option, make sure it is also turned on.
1. While viewing the content that you want to share, hold HTC One and the other
device back to back. When the devices connect, you'll hear a sound and both
devices will vibrate slightly.
2. Tap the screen.
The shared content appears on the other screen. For some items that you've shared
(such as contact information), additional instructions on how to save the item will
appear on the receiving device.

Any problems I have had with Beaming content with my Evo 4g LTE have been user error on the receiving party's side (i.e. them not tapping to accept the info) or pulling the phone away to quickly.
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From the User Manual:
Beaming content
Make sure that both devices are unlocked and have NFC turned on. If the other
device has an Android Beam option, make sure it is also turned on.
1. While viewing the content that you want to share, hold HTC One and the other
device back to back. When the devices connect, you'll hear a sound and both
devices will vibrate slightly.
2. Tap the screen.
The shared content appears on the other screen. For some items that you've shared
(such as contact information), additional instructions on how to save the item will
appear on the receiving device.

Any problems I have had with Beaming content with my Evo 4g LTE have been user error on the receiving party's side (i.e. them not tapping to accept the info) or pulling the phone away to quickly.
Yeah, same as https://support.htc.com/en/005-HTC_One/0G0/040

The problem I had was that there was no sound/vibration or any other sign that they had connected. Tapping content to share did nothing... I have followed the above instructions correctly (I am a tech geek so I'd like to think I know what I am doing...?! I played around with both phones for about 5 minutes) but it didn't work, am therefore wondering if there is a problem with my phone/HTC One in general/Android version or HTC vs other makes...
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Yeah, same as https://support.htc.com/en/005-HTC_One/0G0/040

The problem I had was that there was no sound/vibration or any other sign that they had connected. Tapping content to share did nothing... I have followed the above instructions correctly (I am a tech geek so I'd like to think I know what I am doing...?! I played around with both phones for about 5 minutes) but it didn't work, am therefore wondering if there is a problem with my phone/HTC One in general/Android version or HTC vs other makes...
Every manufacturer will likely be a little different and it may be different between models. For instance on my EVO 4g LTE I have to go into Settings then More then check off NFC AND tap Android Beam and make sure it is on. As long as both devices have NFC and Android Beam on it should work fine. I share content between my LTEvo and my Nexus 10 this way all the time and it works great. I am not familiar with how LG or Samsung turns on NFC and Android Beam but I would recommend your friends check out the support for their particular devices just to make sure everything is on. If everything is on and you still can't get it to work I would go into the store and have it checked out.
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Does anyone know what the meaning of the double N icon in the status? I can't find anything in HTC One's documentation.
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Not sure if I'm adding anything to this discussion, but I've been able to transfer pictures with my brother's Samsung Note 2 with zero trouble. We both have NFC turned on in our settings, touch the phones together and then we can beam over whatever we have on our screens at the time.

In one example I pulled up a picture of his daughter that I took, bumped my phone to the back of his, clicked "Touch to Beam" and off it went. He had it in about 4-5 seconds.
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Does battery drain more with NFC on? I think I turned mine off but now I want to reconfigure my tags I have that I used on my HTC EVO LTE.
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Just as you probably already have,I GOOGLED the subject & the answers range from yes-no-maybe so & everything in-between.

General consensus seems to be having NFC turned on but in a non-use/stand-by mode uses very little power & only scans periodically while in this mode.

The activity that triggers NFC will use more power,but,this is almost always a short-term activity & power consumption should be negligible & return to a stand-by mode once the activity is complete.

FWIW,I discovered that the NFC "SWEET-SPOT" is located @ the top of the phone,near the camera lens/flash.This may help in placement of NFC tags.
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Just as you probably already have,I GOOGLED the subject & the answers range from yes-no-maybe so & everything in-between.

General consensus seems to be having NFC turned on but in a non-use/stand-by mode uses very little power & only scans periodically while in this mode.

The activity that triggers NFC will use more power,but,this is almost always a short-term activity & power consumption should be negligible & return to a stand-by mode once the activity is complete.

FWIW,I discovered that the NFC "SWEET-SPOT" is located @ the top of the phone,near the camera lens/flash.This may help in placement of NFC tags.
Thanks for posting this! I've put up a couple of NFC tags and I've had some challenges with the phone recognizing when I'm tapping it and I'd have to tap in many different areas to catch it. The first time I did it at the top of the camera, on the "T" is what I call it, it recognized it instantly. Good stuff.
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Just as you probably already have,I GOOGLED the subject & the answers range from yes-no-maybe so & everything in-between.

General consensus seems to be having NFC turned on but in a non-use/stand-by mode uses very little power & only scans periodically while in this mode.

The activity that triggers NFC will use more power,but,this is almost always a short-term activity & power consumption should be negligible & return to a stand-by mode once the activity is complete.

FWIW,I discovered that the NFC "SWEET-SPOT" is located @ the top of the phone,near the camera lens/flash.This may help in placement of NFC tags.
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Thanks for posting this! I've put up a couple of NFC tags and I've had some challenges with the phone recognizing when I'm tapping it and I'd have to tap in many different areas to catch it. The first time I did it at the top of the camera, on the "T" is what I call it, it recognized it instantly. Good stuff.
That makes sense since the NFC antenna is around the camera lens. BTW, I was just able to transfer a picture and open play store on my wife's S3 from my One. However, it wouldn't connect a few times when I tapped the phones together.
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If I place one in my car that enables Bluetooth, do I have to actually touch my phone to the tag to enable Bluetooth. What about when I leave my car.. does Bluetooth automatically turn off?

I recently got an 09 Pontiac g5 and wanted to run everything through my HTC One but it doesn't Bluetooth the audio .. just the calls. So I think I'll buy a 32gb iPod touch for my music (since it has an iPod usb connection that allows steering wheel controls to switch songs) and then I'd just like to setup my HTC to go to Bluetooth when I jump in and disable when I get out..

Wondering what my best options are ...
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The nfc tags are simply a toggle in the use you are describing. Youd touch to turn on and touch to turn off.

You could probably set up a tasker profile to automatically shut it off after x minutes
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Question about NFC Tags

If I place one in my car that enables Bluetooth, do I have to actually touch my phone to the tag to enable Bluetooth. What about when I leave my car.. does Bluetooth automatically turn off?

I recently got an 09 Pontiac g5 and wanted to run everything through my HTC One but it doesn't Bluetooth the audio .. just the calls. So I think I'll buy a 32gb iPod touch for my music (since it has an iPod usb connection that allows steering wheel controls to switch songs) and then I'd just like to setup my HTC to go to Bluetooth when I jump in and disable when I get out..

Wondering what my best options are ...
I actually have a 07 Nissan Altima and use the AUX jack to use this for my bluetooth connection:

GOgroove SMARTmini AUX Bluetooth Car Kit

It works very well, but the only thing is that you have to cut it on everytime you get in the car. But it streams music and phone calls well. So, whenever I get into my car, I tap my phone on the NFC tag(cut on bluetooth, cut off wifi, cut on sound) and push the button on the Gogroove and we're good to go.

Also, you can set the NFC tag to toggle to cut on and off everytime you touch it. I personally just have it cut on everytime I touch it. But the GoGroove cuts off when it doesn't detect a bluetooth connection, so you don't have to worry about that. Hope this helps.
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I have an HTC One (Sprint) and my gf has a Galaxy Note 2 (AT&T). We are able to beam things to each other. Websites work seamlessly. Beaming images is a little different. You both need to be on WiFi for beaming to work and the Galaxy needs to turn S Beam off for it to work. I'm not entire sure how S Beam is beneficial for Samsung devices but for HTC and Samsung phones to sync up, S Beam needs to be off it seems.
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I have an HTC One (Sprint) and my gf has a Galaxy Note 2 (AT&T). We are able to beam things to each other. Websites work seamlessly. Beaming images is a little different. You both need to be on WiFi for beaming to work and the Galaxy needs to turn S Beam off for it to work. I'm not entire sure how S Beam is beneficial for Samsung devices but for HTC and Samsung phones to sync up, S Beam needs to be off it seems.
When I transferred a picture to my wife's s3 from my one, we were both on the Sprint network, her sbeam was on, and it worked just fine.
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I have an HTC One (Sprint) and my gf has a Galaxy Note 2 (AT&T). We are able to beam things to each other. Websites work seamlessly. Beaming images is a little different. You both need to be on WiFi for beaming to work and the Galaxy needs to turn S Beam off for it to work. I'm not entire sure how S Beam is beneficial for Samsung devices but for HTC and Samsung phones to sync up, S Beam needs to be off it seems.
Wifi has to be on while you beam files? I have been trying this with my mate's s3 somehow it didn't work, can you please tell the process?
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I have a one and an s4 for work. I can send pics via NFC from my one to the s4. But when I try to send one from the s4 to the One...it brings the one to the play store then says retry. Weird that it works from the One to the s4 but not the s4 to the One
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Is anyone else having problems reading and writing NFC tags?
I created some when I had my One X and they worked fine, now I cant read or write tags at all using the One.

Beam seems to work - I transferred a pic from my GF`s One X to my One, so I think the NFC chip itself is working?

I have Tagstand Writer and NFC Task Launcher from the Play store, neither seem to work.

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Thanks for all the replies about my problems using NFC tags, the suggestions were really helpful ;-)

Strangely enough, I got the OTA update the other day, and now the NFC is working.
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Hi Everyone,

For some reason I can't figure out how to send a song or a video file to another HTC One using NFC. Bluetooth works fine, and my NFC connections with other phones work fine as well...but as soon as I try to send a video via NFC to another HTC One nothing happens.

What DOES happen, is after the phones are held together, I get the telltale vibration and the ensuing screen that shrinks slightly and requests "Touch to Beam". What will happen is that on the receiving phone, the gallery will open but no video will come through.

If I try to send a song, I do the same thing and his Music app will open but no song will transfer.

Meanwhile, I'll get a NFC song sent to me from a Note 2 or S3 without any problems, but when I try to send something to them, their Google PLay Store opens and gives them an "App not found" error.

Pictures work fine. I can send and receive photos by NFC with zero problems.

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I tried using Google Wallet for the first time at a CVS pharmacy and the POS terminal never acknowledged my phone. NFC was on and I had my PIN entered and everything was ready to go as the instructions said but nothing happened.

Later that night I used my girlfriend's Nexus 4 to see if my phone is faulty. I took both our phones out of their cases and put the One's antenna right against the N4's antenna. I turned on her NFC and Android Beam. I had my gallery open and selected an image. Again, nothing happened.

I'm thinking it might be the magnetic ring that I have adhered around the camera for the photo lenses I bought. The NFC chip is attached to the camera's lens, so I'll take it off and try with another NFC device after work.

Other forums have said that they have similar issues.

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I think you have answered your own question...
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Most likely I did I just wanted to hear "oh no, that's bogus. The ring wouldn't cause any problems. Your phone is a dud, you should unroot/relock your phone and send it back blahblahblach" or "I think you may have fried your NFC chip by putting a dang magnet around it you pretty much ruined your phone way to go blahblahblah"

I suppose I'll give it another go when I get the time. I didn't realize this forum was already up, sorry!
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Hey guys,

I've also been experimenting with Android Beam, in this case, with an HTC One and a Galaxy S III, both on VZW and both running Android 4.3, the secret with the One is that the "prompt for allowing NFC handovers" option must be unchecked, or else nothing happens. On the S III, just turn on NFC and turn S Beam off, and they can both share content to each other flawlessly without any special apps or any rooting.

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