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Android/Google press conference just announced Nexus One on Verizon in Spring 2010

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Android/Google press conference just announced Nexus One on Verizon in Spring 2010
yep - just saw that at Nexus One Phone - Web meets phone.

dissappointing if true. i'm not getting a new phone unless it has HTC's Sense.
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Consider it bought in Spring. Looking forward to it!
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Yep just read it on Google's page
The Nexus One Phone with Verizon Wireless service...coming soon
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en_US&s7e=
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yep - just saw that at Nexus One Phone - Web meets phone.

dissappointing if true. i'm not getting a new phone unless it has HTC's Sense.
Was anyone under the impression that the passion WOULD have sense? I think this is the day we were all waiting for people! Nexus on Verizon confirmed!!!
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Was anyone under the impression that the passion WOULD have sense? I think this is the day we were all waiting for people! Nexus on Verizon confirmed!!!
I just think alot of us were hoping. It is not a deal killer for me. Looks like Android is putting alot of functionality in the UI that Sense was trying to make up for before. Don't get me wrong, Sense UI is awesome to me, but not necessary.
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Yeah I just posted this in another thread... I'm getting a droid Thursday for my renewal. I'll just take good care of it and sell it on ebay and pay full retail when the passion or the bravo is available. I can't wait any longer to play with android

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10:48 a.m.: Verizon and Vodafone have also agreed to join the program (Vodafone owns part of Verizon Wireless).
10:50 a.m.: Queiroz takes us through screenshots of the store. Potential customers can get demos of various Nexus One applications within the store, and take a 3D tour. The phone will be available for $529 without service, and $179 with a two-year contract from T-Mobile. The prices aren't yet available for Verizon Wireless or Vodafone yet. All of this can be done from your PC; you won't have to go into T-Mobile's store.
10:52 a.m.: Verizon and Vodafone are on track to participate by spring 2010, Queiroz said. He selects the phone without a service plan, and goes through the checkout process. You'll need a Google Account and a Google Checkout account to buy the Nexus One. At the moment, the Google.com/phone site won't let you buy a phone with service contracts from T-Mobile, but it's not clear if that is a temporary glitch.
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Yeah I just posted this in another thread... I'm getting a droid Thursday for my renewal. I'll just take good care of it and sell it on ebay and pay full retail when the passion or the bravo is available. I can't wait any longer to play with android

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10:48 a.m.: Verizon and Vodafone have also agreed to join the program (Vodafone owns part of Verizon Wireless).
10:50 a.m.: Queiroz takes us through screenshots of the store. Potential customers can get demos of various Nexus One applications within the store, and take a 3D tour. The phone will be available for $529 without service, and $179 with a two-year contract from T-Mobile. The prices aren't yet available for Verizon Wireless or Vodafone yet. All of this can be done from your PC; you won't have to go into T-Mobile's store.
10:52 a.m.: Verizon and Vodafone are on track to participate by spring 2010, Queiroz said. He selects the phone without a service plan, and goes through the checkout process. You'll need a Google Account and a Google Checkout account to buy the Nexus One. At the moment, the Google.com/phone site won't let you buy a phone with service contracts from T-Mobile, but it's not clear if that is a temporary glitch.
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11:04AM Ooh, here's a good one: will these new features be coming to a Droid phone? "Everybody will get that software once it's open source, and that'll be in a couple of days."

You lucky boy you . Your droid won't seems nearly as bad once you get that update,eh?
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Unless HTC themselves pulls one out of their butt between now and then with something that can compare (EXTREMELY unlikely, IMO), I'll be impatiently waiting until Spring!
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Unless HTC themselves pulls one out of their butt between now and then with something that can compare (EXTREMELY unlikely, IMO), I'll be impatiently waiting until Spring!
I really hope HTC's butt posses such a Sense UI sporting phone and that they "unload" it on VZW b4 Google's mehhgahPhone
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So the Press Event announces that the VZW N1 will be locked. Expect a $179-199 price tag, with 2-yr contract and ETFs to boot! That being said, this is what VZW might have meant when they said they'd have two "flagship" Android devices: 1) with keyboard, 2) without keyboard.

As for Sense, Peter Chou didn't sound very confident about it when he talked about devices updating to 2.1. He clearly said "some devices" will get it. Whether that means CPU/GPU compatibility to 2.1 or the fact that they haven't successfully mated Sense to 2.1, much less 2.0x. I think Google is laying down the iron fist with the "pure Google experience," as represented by the DROID and, now, N1. No more Sense overlay for "pure Google" phones.

Maybe HTC will release an OS2.0x with Sense, but not a 2.1 with Sense.
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I think Google is laying down the iron fist with the "pure Google experience," as represented by the DROID and, now, N1. No more Sense overlay for "pure Google" phones.

This sounds about right. And, if true, it means I'll probably be jumping ship from Android whenever the next iPhone lands on Verizon. Unless they fix the multi-touch issue and invest seriously in appealing UI design, I'm pretty much done with Android.
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This sounds about right. And, if true, it means I'll probably be jumping ship from Android whenever the next iPhone lands on Verizon. Unless they fix the multi-touch issue and invest seriously in appealing UI design, I'm pretty much done with Android.

Yeah, what a major dissapointment. The hype and subsequent release of this snooze of a phone shows that the google camp has their heads up their arses. Basically a crossgrade from the droid with a "revolutionary" OS upgrade which only has a few UI graphics tweaks and a gallery that should have been on the droid in the first place. Already two months since the droid release, which is an eternity in the electronics space and that's all they could come up with. What do they have the 3 stooges in their Android software engineering dept. 512 K sys memory => Android = Winmo Deluxe. After 15 years of wince/PPC/Winmo and 3 months Android after Verizon's willful neglect of Alltel customers and finally forced to try Apple's Iphone I can say there is no comparison even to Vanilla iphoneOS. I did miss multitasking and sound profiles but the battery just lasted forever and it was just absolutely blazing fast and the apps and games are ridiculus.

Then I did the 15 sec jailbreak and with a day of modding VS what would have taken me weeks on winmo. I've got awesome Palm webOS card style multitaksing, sound profiles, animated desktop, folders, 92 games and 300+ total apps that are all phenomenal and in 28 days not one reboot, crash or app lockup. I have the OS hacked to do everything that i ever wanted a phone to do and it is more stable in a month then android was in a day with only a homescreen replacement....... Not only does Apple have the best app developers but all the best hackers too, so basically it is waaaayyy more open source than Android.

3 months and updates later the droid still has too many issues. They cant even get the LEDs to shut off in the nightstand dock. Just that one great idea alone got me so excited about the Droid, but is a prime example of the ineptitude of these folk. Create a desk clock but dont even have someone use it and notify them that... hey guys you cant really sleep well with this light beacon on the screen doesnt dim enough and the LED are too bright... just stooopid.... The iphone desk clocks are plentiful, free and dim perfectly.
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aww man this is soo confusing! lol

i want a new phone NOW! lol but idk if i want to settle for a DROID and sell it later?( do you think the people will be willing to pay as much for a contract free droid once all these newer phones come?)

The N1 looks pretty good but im unsure about the keyboard.

But maybe the Bravo/Passion is the N1. You know how the Droid Eris is essentially a Hero, but with a new design? Maybe thats how the Bravo will be?
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That's what I'm hoping too. If the Bravo/Incredible or whatever it may be called, hits before the Nexus comes to Verizon, it will make the Nexus just another great phone when it comes to Verizon. Regardless, it looks like I'm holding out for the Incredible. I hear it's going to be...wait for it...INCREDIBLE! Looks like my LG Dare is going to be in action for a few more months.
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I was waiting for this phone to come to Verizon with HTC Sense on it. It looks like it won't have it. Engaget reviewed the Nexus one and they said they prefered the Droid. The Nexus wasn't much faster, some of the colors on the screen were way oversaturated, and they had trouble with typing and activiting the 4 buttons at the bottom. Getting kicked out to the home screen while typing would drive me CRAZY. I guess I'm getting the Droid unless Motorola announced a thinner phone at their press conference tomorrow that will be out in the next month....
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I was waiting for this phone to come to Verizon with HTC Sense on it. It looks like it won't have it. Engaget reviewed the Nexus one and they said they prefered the Droid. The Nexus wasn't much faster, some of the colors on the screen were way oversaturated, and they had trouble with typing and activiting the 4 buttons at the bottom. Getting kicked out to the home screen while typing would drive me CRAZY. I guess I'm getting the Droid unless Motorola announced a thinner phone at their press conference tomorrow that will be out in the next month....
Uh, wasn't this same issue reported with the Droid's soft keyboard? Sign me up for the Nexus One. I'm not super picky in the sense I don't need some blog to love it a billion times better than any other phone in existence. It has a large, brilliant display, it is fast, and it is thin.
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OK, maybe wishful thinking, but am i the only one that thinks they may have only said "spring" and "droid will get 2.1 " to keep sales up on droid and prevent returns. I hope the nexus comes out earlier than that.
anyone with me?
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Uh, wasn't this same issue reported with the Droid's soft keyboard? Sign me up for the Nexus One. I'm not super picky in the sense I don't need some blog to love it a billion times better than any other phone in existence. It has a large, brilliant display, it is fast, and it is thin.
I think this is where Google themselves, actually selling the phone runs into a problem. Will customers be able to walk into a tmobile or verizon store and play with a model? If not, then the only thing is to rely on for knowing you want this phone are blogs, videos, reviews, and camparisons. All are cool, but nothing is better than actually feeling the phone in you're hand. But im unsure. Just question i need cleared up.
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i don't understand why this has been up for debate the only image of the passion is identical to the nexus one(aside from colour)? what evidence is there that it's a different device?

Sense UI would be sweet but i'm damn glad i didn't get an eris or a droid, bring it on rooted nexus one!
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Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country.
what the fuk...........
i mean the phone will be deliveried from Taiwan
but Taiwan wont sell the Nexus on the list
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I am looking at the Google site, I am not seeing that the phone has FM. Am I missing it?
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That's what I'm hoping too. If the Bravo/Incredible or whatever it may be called, hits before the Nexus comes to Verizon, it will make the Nexus just another great phone when it comes to Verizon. Regardless, it looks like I'm holding out for the Incredible. I hear it's going to be...wait for it...INCREDIBLE! Looks like my LG Dare is going to be in action for a few more months.

I agree. Although I'm tired of waiting and ready to upgrade from my LG Dare to Android, hopefully the wait till Spring for the Nexus One will be fruitful. Hoping the HTC Incredible, the Motorola Shadow, and the Motorola Google Phone are released before then, so we will have a choice of Snapdragon phones on Verizon. Also the N1 being locked to Verizon should guarantee subsidization and insurance (if you choose).

In addition, we will be reading about problems, tricks, battery tweaks, etc. over the next couple on months and let those GSM fanboys do the test piloting for us!
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ya i am waiting for the Bravo/Incredible. worst case scenario is it doesnt come out and i buy the N1
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11:04AM Ooh, here's a good one: will these new features be coming to a Droid phone? "Everybody will get that software once it's open source, and that'll be in a couple of days."

You lucky boy you . Your droid won't seems nearly as bad once you get that update,eh?
Well I am going to root the droid and update to a leaked 2.1 when I get it Thursday. There are a lot of guys that have already done this to their Droids. They seem to like 2.1 a whole lot. I can get the official 2.1 update when it is released.

A moto droid with android 2.1 on verizon's network is really the best competition for the iphone right now, in my opinion. If something better comes out I can always sell the droid and buy the next phone. Just gotta take good care of it.
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Well we finally get some closure here that we know that at least one HTC Android super phone will be coming to Verizon, in the previously speculated April/Spring timeframe, and of course, since it is the Nexus One, it of course looks like the first Unlockr pics released. All of the talk of VZW being a pain and not wanting to work with Google is false. It seems that the only carrier now that is really hurting for Android is AT&T.

Now, this seems like a great phone, and specs wise certainly prove it to be so. The beta Flash experience was also shown over at Endadget, so things will be quite exciting for the platform. My Dare will be getting more use than originally planned.

Like others, I too am hoping that the Incredible comes to being. An Android 2.1 set with Sense and with a better looking exterior (IMHO) is exactly what I've been waiting for (well besides an Android HD2, but I digress).
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Not only does Apple have the best app developers but all the best hackers too, so basically it is waaaayyy more open source than Android.
You are quite wrong here.

The droid community gained root access (equivalent to jailbreaking iphone) within a few weeks of its release. Not only is android open-source but it is also linux based. This means hackers and devs do not have to learn a whole new os or deal with java to hack android and develop android apps like they did/do with the iphone os. Multiple sources report that app developers prefer working with android by far. It's not that iphone fans have an easier time or are better at it, it's that they've had a 2 year head start.

You should also consider the iphone's age when comparing it with droid's bugs. The iphone had its own problems in its infancy.


Apple knows they are in trouble now that Verizon has some legitimate challengers in the market. This is made evident by the agreement in the works between the two.

I'm honestly quite excited to pick up my droid Thursday. Running Android 2.1 with a 3.7" high-res display on Verizon's network - that's hard to beat right now.
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Why not just wait to root your phone...they said at the Google conference yesterday 2.1 would be pushed to Droid within a few days as soon as it was open sourced.
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Why would people still want Sense UI when it seems to be the reason holding back the phone updates? This will happen to every major update when you use a phone with Sense UI.
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Why would people still want Sense UI when it seems to be the reason holding back the phone updates? This will happen to every major update when you use a phone with Sense UI.

because stock Android is ugly as hell. well, maybe not ugly as hell . but i HAPPILY put up with a slower processor and slightly less features on my Eris than to deal with the ugly hardware and software on the Droid.

and from what i've seen of 2.1 on the Nexus One...it hasn't gotten much better.
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because stock Android is ugly as hell. well, maybe not ugly as hell . but i HAPPILY put up with a slower processor and slightly less features on my Eris than to deal with the ugly hardware and software on the Droid.

and from what i've seen of 2.1 on the Nexus One...it hasn't gotten much better.
Its gotten a little better. 5 home panels out of the box, same weather widget Sense uses.
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because stock Android is ugly as hell. well, maybe not ugly as hell . but i HAPPILY put up with a slower processor and slightly less features on my Eris than to deal with the ugly hardware and software on the Droid.

and from what i've seen of 2.1 on the Nexus One...it hasn't gotten much better.
Seriously? Aside from the weather widget and the arc slider at the bottom (and two more panels, but that's not really an aesthetic feature), how exactly is Sense THAT much different from stock Android to make it night and day different? I preferred Sense to Android 2.0 on the Droid, but 2.1 pretty much levels the field for me.
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Seriously? Aside from the weather widget and the arc slider at the bottom (and two more panels, but that's not really an aesthetic feature), how exactly is Sense THAT much different from stock Android to make it night and day different? I preferred Sense to Android 2.0 on the Droid, but 2.1 pretty much levels the field for me.
Actually, the reason that I want the HTC SenseUI is not so much for the widgets and look as much as it is for the keyboards. Both the portrait and landscape HTC sense keyboards are much better and much easier to use than the sock Android ones. If I am going to have an awesome OS and so many capabilities with my phone, then I want to be able to enjoy typing on them day in and day out, so I want the HTC keyboards
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Actually, the reason that I want the HTC SenseUI is not so much for the widgets and look as much as it is for the keyboards. Both the portrait and landscape HTC sense keyboards are much better and much easier to use than the sock Android ones. If I am going to have an awesome OS and so many capabilities with my phone, then I want to be able to enjoy typing on them day in and day out, so I want the HTC keyboards
Sounds fair to me. I have never used either. I hope the Android soft keyboard isn't as horrible as some make it seem. Better than the Storms I hope.
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I have to agree. Sense's keyboard is awesome and pretty accurate. The feedback is nice too. I was going to get the droid eris because of it and the Imagio.

All of this wouldnt even matter if they still had the beautiful or pretty widgets apps. If that were the case, one could just get any stock android phone and add that on, if youre the type who likes sense for its aesthetics.

I like them for both, but mainly i like the keyboard. but i rather have stock android if it means i cant get my updates =/
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All of this wouldnt even matter if they still had the beautiful or pretty widgets apps. If that were the case, one could just get any stock android phone and add that on, if youre the type who likes sense for its aesthetics.
that is what i was thinking. i thought he put it back up but i dont know since i dont have an android device yet. but figured get beautiful widgets app the skype(if it is available) for the keybord
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I have been due to upgrade for over one and a half years now, and have wanted to get a smartphone. I upgraded once last summer for a weekend and got the XV6800. That was the single most laggy device I have ever encountered (not to mention I HATE Windows Mobile). I reverted back to my trusty LG VX8300 just two days later and decided to wait. When news leaked about the DROID, I was all over it because now finally on Verizon there was a phone I actually liked. But when I went to the store to play with it (as I did once, sometimes twice a week for a month) I left empty handed each time. I loved the speed and responsiveness of the DROID, the screen was beautiful, I was impressed by everything, except that when I played with the Eris, the HTC keyboard was phenomenal and put the stock Android keyboard to shame. If it was as snappy as the DROID, or had Android 2.0, I would have definitely pulled the trigger because I liked it THAT much more. I have since then been waiting because of all of the Passion/Bravo/Incredible rumors and now throw the N1 into the mix, how long must we wait?

All I am trying to say is that SenseUI/the HTC keyboard IMO makes THAT much of a difference.
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^ Wow, thats food for thought.
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All I am trying to say is that SenseUI/the HTC keyboard IMO makes THAT much of a difference.
I've been knocking Sense in a few posts recently. I just didn't like it for a variety of reasons.

However, the Sense keyboard is indeed better than the non Sense (pun intended) Android keyboard.

I've been forcing myself to use my Droid's landscape virtual keyboard for the past few days... to prepare myself for the N1.
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I've been forcing myself to use my Droid's landscape virtual keyboard for the past few days... to prepare myself for the N1.
Just out of curiousity, what makes you want to ditch the DROID for the N1?
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I'd really like to know if the Nexus One and Passion are the same phone. I'm ready to take the plunge into the smartphone world but have been trying to wait until all of these phones get sorted out since I'm sure I'll be keeping the one I buy for quite a while.

Anyway, I was just playing around on Google's main site and noticed that the name of the Nexus One image is "hpp_passion-35.png".

Do you think that could mean..?
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Anyway, I was just playing around on Google's main site and noticed that the name of the Nexus One image is "hpp_passion-35.png".

Do you think that could mean..?
Wow! Nice find. What do you suppose the 'hpp' means?
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I'd really like to know if the Nexus One and Passion are the same phone. I'm ready to take the plunge into the smartphone world but have been trying to wait until all of these phones get sorted out since I'm sure I'll be keeping the one I buy for quite a while.

Anyway, I was just playing around on Google's main site and noticed that the name of the Nexus One image is "hpp_passion-35.png".

Do you think that could mean..?
That IS an interesting find. Why WOULD they have that in the file name unless...
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unless what? i'm not following. passion=nexus. big deal.
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ya i have to agree with cdmta passion is the nexus they look the same. now i am waiting and hoping that the incredible is the bravo for the us. if not well then im just waiting for nexus
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unless what? i'm not following. passion=nexus. big deal.
Yeah,
Passion = Nexus One (GSM)
PassionC = Nexus One (CDMA)

I guess the answer to the question in the title of this thread is confirmed.

moving on to Incredible/Bravo (hopefully)
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You guys know I've been waiting for the Passion. Today I got the Droid I'm very happy. Swype is so cool and fast you wont care about htc keyboards. The other advantage to the Droid is when Google does updates, like the one that will hopefully give Android blue tooth dialing, the Droid will get it right away, while sense may be waiting a long time..
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Yeah so I wonder when the heck they're announcing the Bravo? Wasn't that supposed to be the day after the Google conference? :P I've gotta make a decision soon! lol
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I am really hoping that the Nexus One is not the passion/bravo. So far it has seemd to be a different phone, but similar specs. Some websites have rumored that the passion/bravo is going to drop on VZW in January 2010, which is what im hoping for. I have to sign up for new service by Feb, so if it proves that the N1 is the passion, ill have to get that, and be a little disappointed... Im really hoping for Sense UI and VZW in Jan... If not, Tmobile here I come..
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I am really hoping that the Nexus One is not the passion/bravo. So far it has seemd to be a different phone, but similar specs. Some websites have rumored that the passion/bravo is going to drop on VZW in January 2010, which is what im hoping for. I have to sign up for new service by Feb, so if it proves that the N1 is the passion, ill have to get that, and be a little disappointed... Im really hoping for Sense UI and VZW in Jan... If not, Tmobile here I come..
At this point I don't care. Incredible/Bravo or Passion/Nexus One...I just need something SOON, like by the end of January. So tired of waiting. God I hope something comes around. Still nothing on the horizon based on the FCC approval database.

Also, I browsed the T-Mobile coverage maps in the northeast. Nope, can't do it. Need to stick with Verizon.
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