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Old August 4th, 2011, 12:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Actual specs -vs- Bionic??

I, as so many others, have been waiting forever on the Bionic.

But, if the Vigor is really only 28 days after the Bionic release, it might be worth that little more wait??

Do we have exact specs on the Vigor yet?? What are they??

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I just hope it is narrower than the Thunderbolt...I am not a fan of those wide phones....I hope is closer in width to the Incredible than the Thunderbolt.
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I too, have been waiting "patiently" for the bionic, but after seeing the Vigor in the "news" the past couple days, I maybe be willing to wait again on this.. The only rumors I can find say the Vigor has a 1.5ghz processor (dual core or not?), 720p display, and 4g. Hope my D1 can hold out for just a little while longer!
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I too, have been waiting "patiently" for the bionic, but after seeing the Vigor in the "news" the past couple days, I maybe be willing to wait again on this.. The only rumors I can find say the Vigor has a 1.5ghz processor (dual core or not?), 720p display, and 4g. Hope my D1 can hold out for just a little while longer!
We know that it should have the 1.5GHz processor, and I highly doubt that anyone is interested in putting less than a dual core in a flagship device like the Vigor. I say flagship as it is replacing the Thunderbolt.

On a side note: I hope my enV Touch can hold out a little while longer!
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The only thing that scares me is I read somewhere 4.7" screen-that's huge...will try to find where I read that to verify the "rumor"...otherwise, a new BEAST from HTC-Yay! The Thunderbolt didn't excite me, so still on my Inc.

Edit* Think that screen size was for Eternity, but you would think it has to be bigger anyway to support true 720p
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Motorola will loose some market share and % of Bionic phones sold with all the delays, and being released close to other phones. I've been waiting on the Bionic as well, but will likely wait to see what the Vigor will offer. Of all the "skinned" Android's, I think HTC has the best to offer. Notice though, in that spreadsheet leak yesterday, that it isn't given the Droid naming...but then again, the Thunderbolt didn't receive the Droid tagging as well.

Oh, and stop with the LG EnV Touch talk...you mention it in every one of your posts EVERYWHERE on here. I'm pretty sure most of us know "your hoping your Touch holds on".....
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The only thing that scares me is I read somewhere 4.7" screen-that's huge...will try to find where I read that to verify the "rumor"...otherwise, a new BEAST from HTC-Yay! The Thunderbolt didn't excite me, so still on my Inc.

Edit* Think that screen size was for Eternity, but you would think it has to be bigger anyway to support true 720p
We'll you gotta figure if its gonna be running ice cream it'll get rid of the soft keys which will free up quite a bit of real estate.

Not to mention if your talking 2/10in diagonally there's prolly enough room to make it smaller than the tbolt AND give it a slightly bigger screen.
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We'll you gotta figure if its gonna be running ice cream it'll get rid of the soft keys which will free up quite a bit of real estate.

Not to mention if your talking 2/10in diagonally there's prolly enough room to make it smaller than the tbolt AND give it a slightly bigger screen.
I would just like to point all of you to a wonderful post over at Android Central on why you should not worry about these larger screen sizes.

Nexus Prime - Page 44 - Android Forums

ICS has no buttons. No buttons = more bezel space for screen. Hence larger screens without increasing phone size.
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im happy they finaly made an htc vigor thread
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I was worried that the thunderbolt would be to big, but i have decent size hands. Even with the extended battery, the weight and size does not bother me at all. Smaller phones (came to TB from a BlackBerry) seem fragile. Wife has a Incredible2, seems flimsy. And I can't wait to upgrade to a Vigor.
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Yea I agree. I remember back in the incredible days when everyone was like the screen on the inc was perfect and the evo was to big..I use to think the same thing who wants a big phone like that in their pocket..its funny how quick things change..seems like bigger is better now..I'm so tired of this lil screen I'm going crazy!!!
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For those who have owned a HTC phone,what are you opinions on build quality and useability of their phones? Do they hold up well?? Well built? Any common issues,problems know about their phones? I'm waiting for something to hit,whether it's the Bionic,the SGS2 or this. I really like Samsungs top quality screen. How are HTC's screens?? It kinda makes no sense to jump on the Bionic right out the door when there are other top phones coming out a month later. So guess I'm stuck with my little buddy Droid for awhile longer....
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For those who have owned a HTC phone,what are you opinions on build quality and useability of their phones? Do they hold up well?? Well built? Any common issues,problems know about their phones? I'm waiting for something to hit,whether it's the Bionic,the SGS2 or this. I really like Samsungs top quality screen. How are HTC's screens?? It kinda makes no sense to jump on the Bionic right out the door when there are other top phones coming out a month later. So guess I'm stuck with my little buddy Droid for awhile longer....
From what I have heard from others who have used other HTCs they say build quality is strong. I've seen Touch Pro/Diamond, HD 2s last a long while for people who had them. I held a WP7 HTC HD 7 and that phone is very nice materials wise. Very sturdy, nice finish on the outer materials. HD 2 was a very solidly built phone but was crippled since it launched with WinMo 6.5.

The Incredible is the first HTC phone I've ever owned and in comparison to the others, it is not quite to the level of the HD 2 or HD7. Initial reviews for the Incredible questioned the build quality as a little too plasticky. I think those reviews were a little exaggerated because the screen bezel and the battery cover were plastic and soft touch finish respectively. Honestly, for hardware like this you should really consider a case to go along with it anyway and protect it from any potential mishap. I have one of the first batch of Incredibles with an AMOLED screen. It is a beautiful screen. Colors look really nice, vivid well backlit.
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For those who have owned a HTC phone,what are you opinions on build quality and useability of their phones? Do they hold up well?? Well built? Any common issues,problems know about their phones? I'm waiting for something to hit,whether it's the Bionic,the SGS2 or this. I really like Samsungs top quality screen. How are HTC's screens?? It kinda makes no sense to jump on the Bionic right out the door when there are other top phones coming out a month later. So guess I'm stuck with my little buddy Droid for awhile longer....
I also have the Incredible, got it on launch day and it has served me very well. My son liked it so much that he ended up with one as well.

It's different strokes for different folks, but as far as build quality, there are some plastic pieces as mentioned, but the phone feels VERY solid in the hand. I have never had any hardware issues...period. It's rooted, and was done easily I might add, but any issues I have ever had are related to the various roms I have loaded on to it. Currently running MIUI and I love it...much better than HTC Sense, IMHO. But my son still has stock sense on his and he is just as happy.

For me on Verizon, it boils down to the Vigor being a real phone that actually gets released vs. the GS2 variant. I played with a buddie's S2 when I was in S. Korea in May and it was a very sweet phone. I said then that it was going to be my next phone. But now that I've heard of the Vigor and seen some rumored specs AND it's an HTC phone, I am definitely looking for more info on it before I decide.

I was really wanting to get the Bionic, but it has taken too long and I can't stand the sloped/raised back I've seen in pictures...looks like some futuristic electric shaver to me
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im happy they finaly made an htc vigor thread
Yeah I messaged Phases and asked him to open one since I noticed the Strat forum opened the day before following the VZW launch map leak...much to my surprise he PM'd me back and said it was a done deal, so he gets the kudos.
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All I have had are Nokias, RIMS and Motorola. Out of these I grew partial to Motorola. However, having waited so long that higher end phones are on the immediate horizon, I am going to hold on to my Droid 1 a little longer. If the Vigor comes out in early October, I definitely want to take a look and it might become my first HTC. Galaxy S2, Vigor and Bionic will be competing for my dollars in mid October (at least I hope they will all be cometing).
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I've got an Evo and have been very happy with the build and quality of the phone itself. I however, am not happy with Sprint's coverage and service in my area- its horrible at best.

I want to learn more about the Vigor to see if it is the phone I'm looking for. I'm not on a contract any longer with Sprint, so I can jump ship at anytime (although I will lose my unlimited data). It will be nice to be on a network that actually works as it should where I live.
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Looking to upgrade my Droid X with either the Bionic or the Vigor. I had a one-year contract which is now over. The X already has a 4.3" screen, so I'm looking for something bigger.
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Looking to upgrade my Droid X with either the Bionic or the Vigor. I had a one-year contract which is now over. The X already has a 4.3" screen, so I'm looking for something bigger.
I'd wait for ICS if I were you. You at least have an Android phone that you can use to hold you out. The X is a great device. ICS will bring larger screens without too much of a increase in size.
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I'd wait for ICS if I were you. You at least have an Android phone that you can use to hold you out. The X is a great device. ICS will bring larger screens without too much of a increase in size.
What is an ICS?
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Ice cream sandwhich. Android 4.0. The next version of Android.
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Ice cream sandwhich. Android 4.0. The next version of Android.
Oh ok, I figure I would just root & upgrade my device when 4.0 comes out. I've done that with my G1 & my Droid X. Now it looks like I'll be getting either the Samsung Stratosphere or the HTC Vigor. Just waiting on the Vigor's specs. I don't really care to wait for the 4.0 phones, dual core & LTE, with a 4.5" screen is good enough!
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Oh ok, I figure I would just root & upgrade my device when 4.0 comes out. I've done that with my G1 & my Droid X. Now it looks like I'll be getting either the Samsung Stratosphere or the HTC Vigor. Just waiting on the Vigor's specs. I don't really care to wait for the 4.0 phones, dual core & LTE, with a 4.5" screen is good enough!
Not considering the Bionic then?
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No, not anymore, now that we know the screen size. I want a screen bigger than my Droid X.

4.3" is not enough for my big hands...

You're speaking to someone who never understood why people complained about the original X-Box's controller size.
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This may be a stupid question but with 720p, does that automatically mean a 4.3" our larger screen?
Got to say, given there is no proof that motorola is even working on the bootloader issue, why consider the bionic when, at release will be average. At least with htc they appear to be making good on what they promised.

"Just saw a quick run though of HTC unlock tool in action on global sensation.. got to admit I'm happy to see handset makers listen to users" from Black_Man_X via twitter.

http://www.planetinsane.com/htc-thunderbolt-2-to-follow-the-release-of-the-lg-revolution-2-next-october/2621417/
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I'm surprised that nobody even suspects that Vigor is gonna be a tablet vs a smartphone. Something very similar to HTC Puccini that is due to come out on AT&T...
I strongly doubt that there will be 720p screen on a sub 5" device.
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I'm surprised that nobody even suspects that Vigor is gonna be a tablet vs a smartphone. Something very similar to HTC Puccini that is due to come out on AT&T...
I strongly doubt that there will be 720p screen on a sub 5" device.
Except that they labeled it as a replacement to the thunderbolt.
That could be in error as well.
What surprises me is that this device is supposed to be out at the end of next month and the only thing we have seen is a few images taken by this device and a leaked document telling us it's replacing the thunderbolt.

I think it's time for more leaks
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What surprises me is that this device is supposed to be out at the end of next month and the only thing we have seen is a few images taken by this device and a leaked document telling us it's replacing the thunderbolt.

I think it's time for more leaks
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The good thing is that before we even have a chance to order the Bionic, we should know the full specs for the Stratosphere and the Vigor.

So no worries!
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+1 for leaks. Normally I hate blurry pics but I wouldn't mind some blurry pics for this.
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For those who have owned a HTC phone,what are you opinions on build quality and useability of their phones? Do they hold up well?? Well built? Any common issues,problems know about their phones? I'm waiting for something to hit,whether it's the Bionic,the SGS2 or this. I really like Samsungs top quality screen. How are HTC's screens?? It kinda makes no sense to jump on the Bionic right out the door when there are other top phones coming out a month later. So guess I'm stuck with my little buddy Droid for awhile longer....
I had an HTC XV6800 (Windows Mobile Phone), and, unlike most phones I've owned, it worked flawlessly until I was ready to retire it (after about 3 years of use). HTC's quality was the reason I waited for what felt like forever for the Droid Incredible to come out, rather than getting one of the Motorola droids. I have no case or screen cover on my Incredible. I got it when it was released last April and in that time it's gotten only a tiny scratch on the screen that I have to hold just so in just the right light to see. It is kind of difficult to see the screen in bright outdoor light, but I think that's pretty common. I really like the Sense GUI, and despite the amount of plastic in the case, I think it feels solid and well balanced. The one complaint I had with the Incredible was that accessories seemed slow in coming out - I gave up looking for a car mount that would charge it when the phone was slid into place, like my husband could get for his Droid 2. Now I'll face a difficult decision - to hang on to the Incredible until 4G coverage reaches our rural area and then get the latest and greatest Verizon phone, or get the Vigor when it comes out - but either way, I'll be going with an HTC - I really think they're that good.
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I've had the DI since launch date...overall I have really enjoyed the phone but am lusting for something new. My DI doesn't seem quite as stable in 2011 as it was in 2010, which may be due to having tons of apps on it now compared to last year. I really hate the 3.8" screen nowadays, and have tons of problems with the keyboard and it autocorrecting my typing too much. It could be just me, but I'm looking forward to larger keys on a 4.3" screen. I really do like Sense and like it over any other skin. Would prefer an AMOLED screen like I have now, but can live without it. I think the build quality was fine and haven't any issues related to this topic: no scratches with no screen protector and have dropped it plenty of times with no damage. Battery life was pretty weak and bought an extended battery soon after buying it. The one design flaw it had was the earpiece grille. Early on, when you would put it in your pocket, the grille tended to act like a cheese grater and would shave the lent off the inside of my pockets and ended up underneath the screen in top left corner. It never really bothered me overall, because you can't see it unless the screen is off and you have an external light source shining on the screen to show it. Otherwise, you don't notice it using the phone.

I'm not waiting on the Samsung GSII...my next phone is either the Bionic or Vigor. I wait on the Vigor to see what it has to offer and then make my choice.
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Well, since it seems no one else has posted this info:

We’ll start first with the Vigor since it seems to be the hottest rumored phone on the planet these days. According to our guy, the device will indeed have a 4.3″ 720p HD screen (1280×720 resolution), with a 1.5GHz dual-core processor, 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, 8MP rear cam, 2MP front, Android 2.3.4 and a brand new version of Sense which he called “3.5.” The device will be similar in size and shape to the Thunderbolt, but without the kickstand.

And if you were wondering, this will be a Beats by Dre device. We’re hearing that it has a Beats logo as part of the bootup sequence, but other than that, it was tough to tell what else HTC had done to integrate their audio technology.

Source - Both HTC Vigor and LG Revolution 2 Could Sport HD Screens, Stratosphere Not the Galaxy S2? - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog
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Well, since it seems no one else has posted this info:

We’ll start first with the Vigor since it seems to be the hottest rumored phone on the planet these days. According to our guy, the device will indeed have a 4.3″ 720p HD screen (1280×720 resolution), with a 1.5GHz dual-core processor, 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, 8MP rear cam, 2MP front, Android 2.3.4 and a brand new version of Sense which he called “3.5.” The device will be similar in size and shape to the Thunderbolt, but without the kickstand.

And if you were wondering, this will be a Beats by Dre device. We’re hearing that it has a Beats logo as part of the bootup sequence, but other than that, it was tough to tell what else HTC had done to integrate their audio technology.

Source - Both HTC Vigor and LG Revolution 2 Could Sport HD Screens, Stratosphere Not the Galaxy S2? - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog
Any word on whether this will be an LTE Phone?
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The spreadsheet leaked a week or so ago shows it being a replacement for the Thunderbolt so, I'd say yes.
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Well, since it seems no one else has posted this info:

We’ll start first with the Vigor since it seems to be the hottest rumored phone on the planet these days. According to our guy, the device will indeed have a 4.3″ 720p HD screen (1280×720 resolution), with a 1.5GHz dual-core processor, 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, 8MP rear cam, 2MP front, Android 2.3.4 and a brand new version of Sense which he called “3.5.” The device will be similar in size and shape to the Thunderbolt, but without the kickstand.

Android 2.3.4?? I am running a rooted Incredible with 2.3.5. I am so confused... Will it be outdated before it hits the streets?
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No. see thats the version that it is running at now. That does not mean that it will be deployed into our hands with that version.
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2.3.4 is not outdated. The 2.3.5 release, at least on the Nexus S, just improved the radio stuff, signal strength.

However, when it gets to ICS, hopefully it'll get it.
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I need a kickstand. After my thunderbolt I cant imagine not having one
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bionic is already pathetic compared to the vigor, if you can, wait for the vigor, skip the bionic.

the vigor is not a tablet so dont worry about that
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bionic is already pathetic compared to the vigor, if you can, wait for the vigor, skip the bionic.

the vigor is not a tablet so dont worry about that
The Vigor is already pathetic compared to the Prime, if you can, wait for the Prime, skip the Vigor.

You can't play the waiting game forever, you'll never get a phone.

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i wouldnt say it's pathetic compared to the prime, similar specs actually.

plus they are coming out around the same time supposedly, so there really isn't a waiting game between those two.

but yeah i agree you cant keep waiting for the next best thing. I think if you go with either one (prime or vigor) you will have a flagship phone and be happy with it.
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Nexus.... Yeah I remember getting on that boat when the nexus one was rumored to come to verizon. Then the Incredible came out and then... No real reason the nexus didn't other than another phone had similar specs. I must have missed them. What are the indicators that the nexus will even be a verizon phone?
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Yeah i don't think there even is anything saying it will come to verizon.
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Maybe I should have read this whole thread, but I, like others, am almost ready to pour out my kool-aid waiting for the Bionic. Motorola seems too much like Valve with their release dates and it's getting a tad bit annoying waiting again and again for this mystery phone (but I'm still excited, don't get me wrong!).

Anyway, random question for you Vigor-knowing folks: does this have HDMI out? To me, that's a big deal (reason I like the Bionic mostly) as I would use it quite often.

Thanks! A faster processor and HTC Sense + ISC leaves me wanting to know more already haha!
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Maybe I should have read this whole thread, but I, like others, am almost ready to pour out my kool-aid waiting for the Bionic. Motorola seems too much like Valve with their release dates and it's getting a tad bit annoying waiting again and again for this mystery phone (but I'm still excited, don't get me wrong!).

Anyway, random question for you Vigor-knowing folks: does this have HDMI out? To me, that's a big deal (reason I like the Bionic mostly) as I would use it quite often.

Thanks! A faster processor and HTC Sense + ISC leaves me wanting to know more already haha!
Valve time... the horror...

I'm hoping for some reverse Valve time, the 18th is speculated as a release (for something anyway).
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What is an ICS?

Ice Cream Sandwich. I doubt seriously that the Vigor will run it out of the box. I'd wager it'll get the upgrade, but that's all. Either way, I'll root it like I have my Incredible (Synergy ROM rocks) and ICS will be on it then lol
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ICS has been rumored to be out by the end of the year, so there's a possibility. Phones are always delayed and the Vigor is slated for an early-October release. I see more of a late-October/ early-November if not a few weeks before the holiday season.
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i was waiting for the boinic to but now after hearing about this i might just wait one more month and see what happens. i like the hd screen idea should be a sick phone
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We can add Bluetooth 3.0 to the list of specs. This just popped up on the Bluetooth SIG web site:

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