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Old June 25th, 2012, 11:04 PM   #501 (permalink)
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I thought the Rezound rooting seemed really daunting too, which is why I just read a ton, and gave myself plenty of time. Like I posted above, this is how I did it:
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?12746-How-To-Root-and-Get-S-Off&p=210865&viewfull=1#post210865

Notice I link to a bunch of different forums; I just picked out the ones I found most helpful. I been told what I did is way overkill (especially because I stayed on gb for a day for my own reasons), but that is how I felt comfortable with my limited knowledge, and it really wasn't hard. And man, once I was running chingy's ics Rom it was so worth it. So read what I did (including that guide on ac forums I link to), read Scotty's guide in this forum, figure out what is easiest to follow, then go for it. And start a thread over in the all things root section when you get started if you want a place to ask questions as you go along.

Overall it sure seemed better to me than waiting for the OTA.

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I rooted my Rezound quite some time ago in the pursuit of battery life. Though I might just consider installing ICS. I understand "These things take time", but this is getting downright RIDICULOUS. Starting to feel like I own yet another one of those phones that promises are made for and left behind. At this rate we'll get ICS when jellybean is mainstream!

THIS is why we need an open phone market, get rid of so-called subsidies and get the prices of phones down to EARTH. I can buy a 10" tablet for $400 and you're telling me my phone is $650? There's some serious markup and BS going on. How much you want to BET VZW gets our phones for a solid $100-150 less than we pay for them? Wouldn't be surprised at ALL. Not to mention, CHOICE. If you know your Carrier is GSM or CDMA or both that's all you should need to know. With the DATA getting pushed so hard now, I wouldn't doubt if carriers are looking to 86 cellular all together and move to VOIP. Grasping at straws here obviously, but this is what's going through my mind...
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Wow...those instructions to root are borderline Mandarin Chinese! I too rely on my phone, and can't possibly risk bricking it. Now...rooting and loading the latest leaked ICS are two different things, right?
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Wow...those instructions to root are borderline Mandarin Chinese! I too rely on my phone, and can't possibly risk bricking it. Now...rooting and loading the latest leaked ICS are two different things, right?
Right, installing the leak is not the same as rooting. It is is just manually installing the stock operating system - you will not have root access to your phone by installing it.
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Wow...those instructions to root are borderline Mandarin Chinese! I too rely on my phone, and can't possibly risk bricking it. Now...rooting and loading the latest leaked ICS are two different things, right?
My advice for using Scotty's advice is to NOT read it before rooting. As counter-intuitive as that sounds, the instructions only make sense when instructions are being implemented. Although I would include more detail if I were writing it, it's still not as bad as it looks.
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I'm starting to hate the carriers and manufacturers...

Here we are STILL waiting for the official OTA for ICS to come out and BAM, by the time we get it, it's already friggin obsolete. So dumb.
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I wouldn't call it "obsolete." More like "just within spec." Once 4.0 is rolled out, any subsequent updates *shouldn't* be that big of a deal. It's almost an entirely new platform, so the road will be paved for JellyBean. But I'm still ticked about Sense 4.0 not being "compatible."

While on the topic, can anyone running an ICS leak tell me about the paginations on the home screen and app drawer? I DESPISE the scrolling stops in the app drawer, and LOATH the spinning homescreen issue.
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Lots of good info from so many folks in this forum. To load the leaked ICS or not to load... It really does suck when one of the top stories on Phandroid is the fact that the G Nexus will be getting Jelly Bean this month. Niiiice. If I'm not mistaken, the Rezound was released more or less at the same time, was supposed to be "ICS ready", blah, blah, blah. Instead, here we are 7 months later running GB on a phone that should have been running ICS from the drop. Rezound...the red headed stepchild.
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Question about ICS - will it give us control over which apps are running as services (and better yet, which ones automatically start on phone power-up)? I can't stand it when I check my running apps and keep seeing Slacker listed on there...
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I wouldn't call it "obsolete." More like "just within spec." Once 4.0 is rolled out, any subsequent updates *shouldn't* be that big of a deal. It's almost an entirely new platform, so the road will be paved for JellyBean. But I'm still ticked about Sense 4.0 not being "compatible."

While on the topic, can anyone running an ICS leak tell me about the paginations on the home screen and app drawer? I DESPISE the scrolling stops in the app drawer, and LOATH the spinning homescreen issue.
You know, I don't know if the app drawer paginations are standard with the leak or not... On chingy's Rom it is an option to choose if you want it to or not. Same with the spinning home screen. Also, newt's Sense 4 Rom is pretty awesome if you want sense 4. Seriously, you all are doing yourself a disservice by not rooting.

And re: jelly bean... because of manufacturer skins and carrier testing/bloat, it is just the nature of open-source android that you will not have Google's latest release unless you buy an unlocked, GSM Nexus device.

(FWIW, I think Verizon is much more to blame for the delayed ota than HTC: I think that "accidental" page recently on HTC's website saying our official ics update was ready was their way of telling us that they've had it ready for awhile, it's vzw holding things up...)

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I know a watched pot never boils, but if the ICS OTA isn't out by this weekend, I've about had it with Verizon. The latest leak was apparently bug-free and ready-to-go, don't know what the holdup is. I am hopeful that our awesome ROM developers can take us up to Jelly Bean after the ICS OTA, with its new firmware and radios, comes out. The Jelly Bean SDK is now online.
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Yeah, this is pretty ridiculous. Everyone's talking about how great JellyBean is and we're still waiting on ICS.
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If I install this leak will I still receive the OTA?
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So that's the tricky part -- I'm not sure. I remember on my Evo that sometimes the leaks were a later build number than the OTA, thus meaning you couldn't receive the OTA. Looking around, I get the impression that folks don't think that will be an issue here, but it is a possibility. Hopefully people more knowledgeable than me will chime in with a more definitive answer on how big a risk it is.

Another reason I personally prefer to root and run custom roms (there are almost always devs who make the phone work better than OTAs anyway).
If I remember correctly, you would only want to install the leak if you were rooted and S-OFF. I don't know if the newer leaks were given an earlier version number than the official OTA update coming, but I remember that being an issue for one of the earlier leaks.

Rooting is nothing compared to the S-OFF procedure. Talk about scary! I bumbled my way through the rooting steps using Scott's guide and several other ones. I've got CleanROM installed, and I've been very happy. Really, that's all you need to enjoy ICS until the official OTA update comes out. I know the leaks are getting better, but you never know what kind of bugs they still have. Plus, you'll have no problem reverting your phone back to GB with just a rooted phone and custom ROM installed, so you can install the official OTA update.
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So do we start a new "JB Speculation" thread?
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So do we start a new "JB Speculation" thread?

Might as well.
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Damn the RUU is over 600mb! Does all of that get loaded on the phone? I am wondering how much of that is bloat. It's no wonder V is taking so long to get ICS out. With all the crap they have thrown in there's gotta be some compatibility issues.
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Damn the RUU is over 600mb! Does all of that get loaded on the phone? I am wondering how much of that is bloat. It's no wonder V is taking so long to get ICS out. With all the crap they have thrown in there's gotta be some compatibility issues.
Yeah, it's huge (partly Verizon's stuff, but mainly because Sense is enormous) -- remember it is the whole thing, not just an update like the OTA will be (that's why it will wipe your phone).

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Pull the trigger last night and updated with the leaked version. WHY DID I WAIT?? Its like a new phone! My dropped 4g issues are finally gone!
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Pull the trigger last night and updated with the leaked version. WHY DID I WAIT?? Its like a new phone! My dropped 4g issues are finally gone!

So if I load up the latest leak, that has all the updates from all the previous leaks as well? Like it's the latest and greatest of everything without me having to upload all of them?

I really want ICS and it seems like this is the only way I'll get it, so screw it, let's do this.
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Yeah, it's huge (partly Verizon's stuff, but mainly because Sense is enormous) -- remember it is the whole thing, not just an update like the OTA will be (that's why it will wipe your phone).

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Yeah that makes sense. I think I may pull the trigger tonight. Is there any way to get back to GB if I need to? Would a GB RUU do that and does one even exist?
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Yeah that makes sense. I think I may pull the trigger tonight. Is there any way to get back to GB if I need to? Would a GB RUU do that and does one even exist?
So a GB RUU does exist, but you can't run it unless you are s-off. So if you install the leak without rooting/s-off, you can't go back.

I can't think of reason why you would ever want to go back (but if you come up with a reason we'll hold your hand through the s-off process over in the all things root section).

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So if I load up the latest leak, that has all the updates from all the previous leaks as well? Like it's the latest and greatest of everything without me having to upload all of them?

I really want ICS and it seems like this is the only way I'll get it, so screw it, let's do this.
Correct, the latest leak has all the features and bug-fixes of the previous leaks.

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So if I load up the latest leak, that has all the updates from all the previous leaks as well? Like it's the latest and greatest of everything without me having to upload all of them?
Yeah, like they said, its a full version of the software, not an update. It has all the new radios and stuff from the previous leaks. Finally got to install chrome, etc....its just a joy. After 7 months of waiting, HTC's announcement that they're committed to Jellybean makes me want to punch someone in the face.
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Does the RUU wipe the external SD card?
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Does the RUU wipe the external SD card?
I don't think it does. But it wouldn't hurt if you backed up everything from it on your pc first, just in case.

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Does the RUU wipe the external SD card?
It didn't wipe mine. The only thing I lost were pictures I've taken in the last 2 months. Not sure what happened there, but not a huge loss. Guess I should have turned on dropbox backup option after all.
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I'm going to jump on ICS this weekend also. I'm sick of waiting for Verizon. I haven't gone through the whole thread. Can somebody send me a link on how to get the link?
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Stupid question, but when the directions say, "place the renamed file on the root of the sd Card", that means just drop it into the main directory of the sd card, right??
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I just talked to a rep at HTC he said now the ICS OTA should be here the end of July. Can't beleive how long this is taking. He did verify that it is the same version as the leak version.
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^^^ I hope your right. I can wait another month but that's it.
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Wrong phone?

Lmao, it is
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Lmao, it is
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OK the real question that I have is what happens if we don't get ICS before adobe pulls flash from the market?
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I've been using the leaked ICS for a while and love it. It was simple to do, did not require rooting and works flawlessly.
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I've been using the leaked ICS for a while and love it. It was simple to do, did not require rooting and works flawlessly.
Having been keeping up as much as I should. No root required?? Is it a RUU you run off of SD card or what?
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can anyone share a link to latest ICS leak? Friendly user no geeky please
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Don't bother with the leak. We're getting close...

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/20/htc-rezound-ice-cream-sandwich-update-release-date-appears-close/
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Old June 30th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #540 (permalink)
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Don't bother with the leak. We're getting close...

HTC Rezound Ice Cream Sandwich Update Release Date Appears Close
Yea thats the same story (reported on phandroid) from 10 days ago. While I agree it is close the fact that was 10 days ago doesnt make me feel any better. What is close? 2 more weeks? A month?
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Old June 30th, 2012, 05:52 PM   #541 (permalink)
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I think the update is ready to go and they're holding it back because it'd make the Rezound better than the Incredible 4G. They don't want to launch a new "flagship" phone when there's something more than 6 months older and cheaper that matches it feature for feature.
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After reading about the Flash pull back that is coming and not having much confidence that V will send out the OTA before that happens, I took the plunge and loaded the RUU yesterday. My first impression was that Sense 3.6 seemed a bit choppy and unfortunately Launcher Pro isn't compatible with ICS so I loaded Apex and it seems OK so far. Neither Sense or Apex are as quick and smooth as GB was with Launcher Pro. Not as much wow factor performance wise as going from Froyo to GB was on the Incredible. The leak seems very stable and I have tried testing quite a few apps without finding any real problems. The new folders are very iphoney and that's seems kinda cheesy IMO. At first my phone would only connect to 3G which was never a problem before but today all is good and I'm getting 18 mb per second download and around 20 mb per second upload on 4G. Many of my older apps must have been ISC ready because they took on some of the ICS behaviors after reloading them. I do like that the internal memory and SD card are now named properly. I don't really like that the OK and Cancel buttons are reversed on all dialog boxes. I don't know if this is an d HTC thing or what but it just seems counter intuitive to change that at this point in the game. It's too early to tell if battery life will be affected one way or the other.
Those are some of my first impression of ICS on the Rezound. All in all it has been pretty positive.
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I loaded the leak on Friday. Everything seems to work great except for one or two things. I backed up my files with SMS backup and restore, plus the Master Backup app. This should have backed up everything on my phone to the SD card. After I loaded the leak, I downloaded those two apps again and the restore files weren't there! I lost basically everything except my pictures and whatever google saves. BS.

Also, my 4G was screwy initially. I had to pull the SIM and replace it, then 4G worked fine.

Lastly, my bluetooth doesn't seem to be working very well in my car. It used to be automatic as soon as I turned on the car, it would connect for the phone function and for BT music streaming. I don't think either will work now, it just won't find my phone for some reason. Still have to fool with it, but it's getting frustrating.
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On my 3rd day in with the ICS RUU and I just had my first freeze up and had to pull the battery. Granted I was doing some file management using Solid Explorer and there was an app update happening at the same time but I never experienced a freeze on GB doing much more that using two processes. Hoping that this isn't a sign of things to come...
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I've jawed back and forth with Verizon about this. They say it's on HTC and they'll release it when they're ready, not them...to which I cry foul.
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I've jawed back and forth with Verizon about this. They say it's on HTC and they'll release it when they're ready, not them...to which I cry foul.
Yeah, agreed, I call bull**** on that, I definitely think it's Verizon holding it up.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 12:06 PM   #547 (permalink)
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Regardless of the reason or who's at fault, we're definitely no longer in "early 2012", as the Rezound press release said.
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Lastly, my bluetooth doesn't seem to be working very well in my car. It used to be automatic as soon as I turned on the car, it would connect for the phone function and for BT music streaming. I don't think either will work now, it just won't find my phone for some reason. Still have to fool with it, but it's getting frustrating.
I haven't upgraded to ICS and my phone is totally stock. But for some reason, all of a sudden, my BT doesn't work either. It may (or may not) connect for the music streaming, but it refuses to connect the phone part. Just an FYI. In case it's not really ICS, but something else.
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Let's put it this way: If it was not a Verizon-branded phone, and the Rezound was really the Desire C, HTC would be free to work it as they saw fit. As both the hardware manufacturer and Sense developer, they would understand completely how it worked. Any software problems are due to Verizon's addition of features and their freedom to dictate what they wanted from the ADR6425LVW. He'll, where does the "VW" suffix come from, or the red "Z" in ReZound? I blame Verizon for the delay.



If Verizon is going to use a high-end platform as a marketing device, I believe they should be held accountable (even more so than HTC) for the device and the problems it has. I'm almost convinced that VZW had a role in HTC's licensing of Beats Audio... It sounds more plausible than HTC making a weird decision like that. If this was 2006, the combo might have been a million-dollar match made in heaven. With Verizon's tardy track record, it sounds more like slow-roasted bean counter.
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If I go to check for an upgrade, it says the server is down. Hmmmm...
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