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Old July 24th, 2012, 05:06 AM   #651 (permalink)
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I don't think VZW and moto are in cahoots or anything. I do think that htc and VZW don't see eye to eye for whatever reason
Verizon saved Motorola with the Droid campaign. Now I believe Motorola will do anything to please VZW in the wake of the iPhone. http://www.android.net/forum/android-news/59306-motorola-now-cautious-about-partnership-verizon-because-iphone.html

There may not be any solid partnership, but if Verizon said "we want a phone that has every piece of bloatware we can think of, and we want to call it the Droid Lag," Motorola would make one.
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Verizon saved Motorola with the Droid campaign. Now I believe Motorola will do anything to please VZW in the wake of the iPhone. http://www.android.net/forum/android-news/59306-motorola-now-cautious-about-partnership-verizon-because-iphone.html

There may not be any solid partnership, but if Verizon said "we want a phone that has every piece of bloatware we can think of, and we want to call it the Droid Lag," Motorola would make one.
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What's worse is that I'm honestly afraid you are right.




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One week left in the month, where's my ICS!
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My Rezound has always worked so well that I've just been content to wait for the ICS update. Even though nothing is really wrong with the phone, I'm getting impatient at this point waiting for the update. I bought this in January expecting that it would have ICS shortly after purchase (the Q1 forecast from Verizon) and now that July is coming to a close I'm just getting frustrated.

I think if it isn't here by the month's end I'm just going to root it and put Joelz's viperRez ROM on it. I'm sure it will be way better than the OTA anyway with the Sense 4 addition. Just tired of waiting for something that was supposed to be here months ago.
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Trying to stay on top of this "speculation" thread...

Am i correct that HTC has not updated its comments from a few days ago saying that " an updated schedule would be coming soon"?

Which i am also saying makes the one from last week saying that the release would start rolling out by months end to be no longer HTC's most current position.

Meaning we currently have no reason to expect a release by months end?
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Old July 25th, 2012, 08:40 AM   #655 (permalink)
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So last night I was in the middle of playing a game (I forget which) and it lagged for a second, I thought, "hmm, weird" continued playing for about 30 more seconds and then it froze and the screen went black, then the startup screen started. My heart skipped a beat, "Could this be it? The Ice Cream Sandwichy goodness promised by our Verizon overlords?"


No friends, as you all probably know it was not. VZW Navigator (which I have never opened) had updated itself.
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Something might be up with the OTA update. This afternoon I've been trying to check and it stays on the screen "checking for new software available now" and does not go to the next screen saying no updates available.
Not sure if this is a good thing or not.
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Something might be up with the OTA update. This afternoon I've been trying to check and it stays on the screen "checking for new software available now" and does not go to the next screen saying no updates available.
Not sure if this is a good thing or not.
is this a " made ya look, ya dirty crook" thing?
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is this a " made ya look, ya dirty crook" thing?
No it still doesn't go beyond checking for new software available now which I check. Is this happening to anyone else?
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No it still doesn't go beyond checking for new software available now which I check. Is this happening to anyone else?
i checked...and it goes to no new software.
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but i did see this:
HTC Rezound Ice Cream Sandwich Update Roll Out Imminent?
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I doubt I will receive a response, but will keep you guys posted:

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I wouldn't be surprised if it came out tomorrow... Now that I installed the leak this afternoon. Go figure. Anyway, the .10 leak isn't bad. It has its moments when I think I should have waited, but it will let me prep for the next update anyway. I'm not convinced that this leak is the one that's going to be pushed over the air. If so, then that's what we get for being impatient.

Still upset that I don't have scrolling wallpapers, but at least I have Chrome now.
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Default Spoke an a Verizon Rep today- ICS soon.

I don't really follow this, but I called VZW today to see when the update would be out. The Rep, who claimed own the same phone, said she had no idea, but then added "let me put you on hold while I dig through the computer".

A few minutes later she said "Well, looks like it has been OK'd for release, but if past history is a guide they'll do in small at first to see what happens and then, if no issues, on a larger scale.

I only bought a Rezound to replace my Droid Incredible to lock in before the rate plans changed. Was going to hold off until ICS was standard. From what I've read I look forward to it.
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I don't really follow this, but I called VZW today to see when the update would be out. The Rep, who claimed own the same phone, said she had no idea, but then added "let me put you on hold while I dig through the computer".

A few minutes later she said "Well, looks like it has been OK'd for release, but if past history is a guide they'll do in small at first to see what happens and then, if no issues, on a larger scale....
The same thing happened to me when I spoke to Verizon this evening. The only difference was that instead of putting me on hold to "dig through the computer," my rep transferred me to tech support:

A tech support representative named Josh told me that the ICS update for the Rezound has been approved by Verizon, and it is just a matter of time before the release. He said that no one at his level really knows the release date, but believes that it will be "sooner rather than later." He also committed to the fact that the Rezound will get the update and said that Verizon had always committed to this, and never wavered from that commitment. His remarks seem to corroborate the info that is shown in the gottabemoblie post linked above by miniSQ.

Josh also stated that, based on internal speculation at Verizon, they believe that the reason for the delay in the upgrade is because when the ICS upgrade was almost ready to roll out, as Android 4.0.4., Google released 4.0.5. Verizon thought it better to delay a little bit and just do the upgrade to 4.0.5 directly rather than do another OTA update later. But, again his words, "the changes from 4.0.4 to 4.0.5 were not inconsequential." They took longer to prepare for roll out than Verizon had anticipated.

This is sufficient for me to remain happy with my Rez as is, and wait patiently for the OTA to roll out. I just think that it is unfair for a company as good as HTC is to have to take so much public wrath about this when it was a Verizon decision that caused the delay. But the decision made sense (no pun intended). Verizon's only mistake in the whole thing was that they kept silent about it. If they had simply kept us all informed about the progress of the upgrade there would have probably been fewer irate people griping about it.
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Well if Josh is telling the truth, those of us on the 4.04 leak should get the OTA since it is 4.05. I hope that takes care of some of the minor bugs with the 4.04 leak but I hope it doesn't take away the local search function that HTC is removing from Jellybean!
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I just called VZW on an unrelated subject. While taking to the rep I asked about the ICS update. She also checked on her "internal computer system" and told me the update to ICS has been approved & it's just waiting in line to be pushed out. So hopefully soon we'll all be enjoying our own little slice of ICS.
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Well if Josh is telling the truth, those of us on the 4.04 leak should get the OTA since it is 4.05. I hope that takes care of some of the minor bugs with the 4.04 leak but I hope it doesn't take away the local search function that HTC is removing from Jellybean!
Where did you get the 4.04 leak. I downloaded the latest leak yesterday from droid life, which had the link from xda site. Yet when I check the version it says 4.03.
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Where did you get the 4.04 leak. I downloaded the latest leak yesterday from droid life, which had the link from xda site. Yet when I check the version it says 4.03.

I.concur. The latest leak is 4.0.3
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I.concur. The latest leak is 4.0.3
That's what I recall that the Rezound was supposed to get as well. I remember because the S3 was supposed to be shipping with 4.0.4, and thinking why are we not getting that version. Great if we do, especially if we end up getting 4.0.5, but with Verizon I'll believe it when I see it. Hell, when I called inquiring about the Inc4G on launch day 2 reps told me at first that they hadn't heard of it and doubted they were getting it! I directed them to the front page of Verizon Wireless. After they saw it there, one of them told me "Learn something new everyday".
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this feels like gingerbread on the incredible all over again... by the time it came out it was months and months that went by and i already got a new phone
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My understanding is that THIS is the latest leak, but the OTA could still have a higher Software Number. After all, my build still has Dev Options in the menu. I have a feeling they will remove that.
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My bad it is 4.03. My old brain is at it again;-).
Either way, the same holds true a higher release number should guarantee that we get the OTA.
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Check this out!

View Phone Information - HTC Rezound™

Droid Life posted a picture from the VZW support site for the Rezound showing the new ICS home screen.

The above link is the actual page on VZW's site.

We are so close to getting a taste of ICS. I can smell the sweetness!
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My understanding is that THIS is the latest leak, but the OTA could still have a higher Software Number. After all, my build still has Dev Options in the menu. I have a feeling they will remove that.
Probably true about the Dev Options. The big question is will the pull the abilty to disable apps.

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I might have gotten the version numbers for the ICS upgrade wrong, but I could almost swear that Josh said 4.0.4 and 4.0.5. Yesterday, I had dug a four and a half foot deep hole that was too small for me to get into, and had to dig it from the surface. Killed my lower back, and by the time I talked to Josh, I was wasted on strong narcotic painkillers. Lots of them. So I could have easily gotten confused about the version numbers.

As for disabling the apps, Josh said that the earlier upgrade, 4.0.4 or whatever it was, had the ability to hide the apps, but not remove them completely. He assumed that the newer one, 4.0.5 or whatever, would be able to do the same, but wasn't sure.
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As for disabling the apps, Josh said that the earlier upgrade, 4.0.4 or whatever it was, had the ability to hide the apps, but not remove them completely. He assumed that the newer one, 4.0.5 or whatever, would be able to do the same, but wasn't sure.
You can do that in 4.0.3 and I believe ANY Ice Cream Sandwich build. I just disabled my bloatware, which also hides them from Play Store updates.

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You can do that in 4.0.3 and I believe ANY Ice Cream Sandwich build. I just disabled my bloatware, which also hides them from Play Store updates.



I will wait to compare the OTA with my 3.14.605.10 leak. If they take away anything, I might deny the upgrade. Once you have the OTA, you will not be able to revert to an older build number leak without root, which is why I installed the leak in the first place. Now that I have it, I will keep a copy for myself as a backup, in case I should ever need a replacement Rezound. But by then I may wish to flash a custom ROM anyway.
Flashed RUU Leak, Unlocked, Installed CleanROM 4.5 Pro, and then went S-off. No more games with Verizon, and I couldn't be happier!
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This is the latest I could find from today.

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I might have gotten the version numbers for the ICS upgrade wrong, but I could almost swear that Josh said 4.0.4 and 4.0.5. Yesterday, I had dug a four and a half foot deep hole that was too small for me to get into, and had to dig it from the surface. Killed my lower back, and by the time I talked to Josh, I was wasted on strong narcotic painkillers. Lots of them. So I could have easily gotten confused about the version numbers.
So with taking those pills, Your sure you talked to Josh..just wondering..lol
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HTC Rezound Ice Cream Sandwich update arriving soon? | Ubergizmo
Kind of odd, they mention that the RAZR series was getting the ICS update AND global capability, but they only mention ICS for the Rezound. Did they shelve that on the Rezound?
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Flashed RUU Leak, Unlocked, Installed CleanROM 4.5 Pro, and then went S-off. No more games with Verizon, and I couldn't be happier!
The only reason I ever rooted my Eris was because it was EASY. With this one, I plan on waiting until the warranty runs out (in case I brick it, not because I believe rooting is against warranty, which it isn't) and even then, I may not root it at all. But it would be very nice to have an unlocked recovery and custom bootloader, and COMPLETELY ridding myself of bloat would be fantastic. I bought the phone in December, so that may happen sooner than never.

Now, back to the speculations, which this thread is all about. My theory is that the OTA will indeed be higher than the 3.14.605.10 build of 4.0.3, and that it will remove the dev options. Anything higher than Version 4.0.3 might even disable a few more features, such as the Universal Search (thank you, iJerks, for that bit of d-baggery) and maybe even that other thing HTC was ordered to stop doing... the thing with the tapping on phone numbers and addresses and such in emails or whatever... THAT @$$hattery.
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Kind of odd, they mention that the RAZR series was getting the ICS update AND global capability, but they only mention ICS for the Rezound. Did they shelve that on the Rezound?
Is the Rezound hardware "globally capable"? Just because it has a SIM card doesn't make it universal. But I'm only asking because I don't know, not because I'm trying to be a dick.
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Is the Rezound hardware "globally capable"? Just because it has a SIM card doesn't make it universal. But I'm only asking because I don't know, not because I'm trying to be a dick.
Yes rezound is global capable. There has been reports of it working over seas
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I remember that we rambled on about other stuff too. It was a pretty interesting conversation and he was very obviously well informed and intelligent. FWIW, we discussed the HTC Rhyme (my wife has one), and whether or not it would likely get the ICS upgrade that was mentioned by VZW or HTC. No idea, he said, but didn't think it to be too likely. He also had never seen the mention of it that was in the original VZW press release that named the phones to get ICS
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Is the Rezound hardware "globally capable"? Just because it has a SIM card doesn't make it universal. But I'm only asking because I don't know, not because I'm trying to be a dick.
Yeah, awhile back there was a story about this and they mentioned that the Razr, Maxx, & Rezound were all going to get an update to make them global. I know if you do the *#*#4636#*#* or use the PhoneInfo app is takes you to the test section. When you go to the phone section, there was a drop down box that allowed to select which band you wanted to use.

That was how we were able to select CDMA auto for 3G or EVDO+LTE for 4G. But besides those to, there was also a selection for WCDMA. I know because the issue of Rezounds doing the boot loop was caused by the phone selecting WCDMA on it's own & since it couldn't find a network, it started bootlooping.

To fix it you had to get into the test section and put it back on Verizon's bands. Hard to do when the dialer lagged while starting up and I only had about 15 seconds before it rebooted.

Supposedly Verizon was going to disable the test section with the ICS update. Fine if they also eliminated the ability for it go to WCDMA by itself, otherwise you'd be screwed. When I had the issue the first time (before I found out about the test section) I was advised to do a factory reset, and it still didn't help. So hopefully they fixed the issue since they have taken away the only fix the end user can do to right it.
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Huh. My signal is so bad at the house, I'm surprised that I haven't had any bootlooping issues in the almost nine months I've had it. We need a wireless extender to run through the crappy DSL connection just to use the phone at all. But in town, where I work, 3G and 4G work just fine... provided that I am not on the wrong side of the building, when it tries switching back and forth between the two, even with five bars.

A lot of good information, thank you.
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Soooo, it's July 27th and no OTA update. Is it safe to assume that they wouldn't release anything over the weekend? And if we still believe their end of July deadline, does that mean we are looking at Monday or Tuesday? Whoever said it would be on July 31st at 11:59:59pm may just be right.
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You guys know ICS has been publicly announced right? it is on the ota server, will be out any moment for soak, and on all devices by August 3rd.

Hit up Verizon forums for the rest, would post, but I'm at works.
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You guys know ICS has been publicly announced right? it is on the ota server, will be out any moment for soak, and on all devices by August 3rd.

Hit up Verizon forums for the rest, would post, but I'm at works.
this is on the verizon forum, but it is not coming from VZW...not sure who wrote it:

26th of July, 2012, 9:14 A.M. New York local time – HTC’s Android smartphone with Verizon LTE to receive Android Ice Cream Sandwich at the end of July, but first week of August is possible.

We’ve been told by a source that HTC and Verizon Wireless will issue the Android ice Cream Sandwich update for the HTC Rezound by the end of this month for testers and by August 3 for all devices.

HTC Rezound’s ICS will include multitasking support, data management, camera app improvements and other Ice Cream Sandwich features including Chrome for Android app support and improved keyboard.

HTC Rezound was launched last year with Android Gingerbread. It features a dual-core Scorpion Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 1GB RAM and features a 720p HD S-LCD capacitive touchscreen. The high-end Android-based smartphone also includes a back-facing 8-megapixel camera, Beats software and HTC Sense version 3.5 custom user interface.

Apparently, the latest version of Android is Jelly Bean, and it is safe to assume that HTC Rezound is one of the smartphones that will receive a Jelly Bean update apart from HTC’s high-end HTC One X and other dual-core devices like the HTC Sensation, HTC Amaze, ETC.

For starters, Jelly Bean includes new features including Google Now and improved Google search with voice, aside from smoother UI and new camera enhancements and other apps add-ons.
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That was posted thursday around noon, moments later the Verizon website for the rezound updated with an ICS software update coming soon post with pdfs with ICS screens of the update process.
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I still see the old maintenance update pdf.
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Whoever said it would be on July 31st at 11:59:59pm may just be right.
I am sure I am Thats how the update for the Razr went, see no reason for this not to be the same.
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Huh. My signal is so bad at the house, I'm surprised that I haven't had any bootlooping issues in the almost nine months I've had it. We need a wireless extender to run through the crappy DSL connection just to use the phone at all. But in town, where I work, 3G and 4G work just fine... provided that I am not on the wrong side of the building, when it tries switching back and forth between the two, even with five bars.

A lot of good information, thank you.
I'm also on a network extender, but low signal isn't the issue, no signal is. When it sets itself to WCDMA, there isn't a tower anywhere near here that runs on that. While bad signal might be - 100dBm, this would be - 125dBm or like there was no tower for 200 miles. Normally you'd think you'd get a no service indication, but this just sends it into a tizzy. Trust me, it sucks when it happens.
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Unrelated... Chrome Experiments is now available in mobile for Chrome for Android. I'm not sure if the Rezound hardware is the issue, or if It's Chrome for Android, or the current ICS I'm using, but it CRASHED my phone big time. Any thoughts about this, and weather or not it will be fixed in the OTA? The RAZRs with the OTA update don't seem to be having this problem.
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I still see the old maintenance update pdf.
Not that I don't believe you Boom but can anyone else confirm?

No offense nbokov but I checked last night and didn't see it. you sure you can';t link to what you're seeing?
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Not that I don't believe you Boom but can anyone else confirm?

No offense nbokov but I checked last night and didn't see it. you sure you can';t link to what you're seeing?
SUCH a pain to post anything on a phone... On my pc now, here is what I have seen. All of this happened within an hour or so.

Verizon Leaked Document Says HTC Rezound to Get Android 4.0 ICS Update | The Droid Guy

This is the verizon thing. It may be old, as someone pointed out, but someone on the vzw forums took it differently....

Software Update: HTC Rezound™ - Coming Soon!

I tried to find the ICS screens on the verizon website, but I just can't find the link on the forums anymore. There are about 10 ICS threads and they all got spammed with whiners complaining how even though it is slated to come out, it wont.

EDIT: FOUND IT! Here is the post, (scroll all the way down),
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/771085?start=140&tstart=0

Here is the source I'm guessing for that news post on the verizon forums.

http://www.popherald.com/2012-07-26-news-article-id-3-19121

My guess is sunday at 12 Midnight EST, and it will start rolling out that week.
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SUCH a pain to post anything on a phone... On my pc now, here is what I have seen. All of this happened within an hour or so.

Verizon Leaked Document Says HTC Rezound to Get Android 4.0 ICS Update | The Droid Guy

This is the verizon thing. It may be old, as someone pointed out, but someone on the vzw forums took it differently....

Software Update: HTC Rezound™ - Coming Soon!

I tried to find the ICS screens on the verizon website, but I just can't find the link on the forums anymore. There are about 10 ICS threads and they all got spammed with whiners complaining how even though it is slated to come out, it wont.

EDIT: FOUND IT! Here is the post, (scroll all the way down),
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/771085?start=140&tstart=0

Here is the source I'm guessing for that news post on the verizon forums.

http://www.popherald.com/2012-07-26-news-article-id-3-19121

My guess is sunday at 12 Midnight EST, and it will start rolling out that week.

Something in the top pic in the first link has me puzzled. It says available for push on 7/29 and available for pull on 6/1. The date of 6/1 is what has me confused.
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Something in the top pic in the first link has me puzzled. It says available for push on 7/29 and available for pull on 6/1. The date of 6/1 is what has me confused.

What the what ? I noticed that too, went back to have another look and the dates have been changed and now are in red. I think I smell something
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What the what ? I noticed that too, went back to have another look and the dates have been changed and now are in red. I think I smell something

Yeah...just noticed they were changed also. Looks like it might have been a typo. The dates definitely seem to fall in line with the latest rumors though....which makes me happy...lol.
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