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Old August 1st, 2012, 09:14 AM   #851 (permalink)
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That "leak" did say 11:59 PM EST on 8/1. I think tomorrow will be the day I get angry and root my phone.
This right here.^

The leak may be B.S., but I'll hold off doing anything until after midnight tonight. According to the leak, you couldn't even get the OTA update until midnight tonight (unless you were one of the few that they initially pushed it to).

However, since we haven't seen anyone get the OTA (I mean there's enough people in these forums and others that I visit, that someone had to get it), I'm guessing that leak was bull and it's not coming out anytime soon. So as TrooperThorn said, I will re-root my phone, then go after S-OFF, and then install the leak.

What a joke this whole thing has been.

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If I load the leak, will my phone pull the official OTA if/when it is ever pushed??
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Yes, foxfi works perfect on the razr with ics. Wifi tethered my daughters phone and a laptop to it just last week. Does not however work on rezound with ics leak installed

There is always a chance the leak will somehow not allow an ota but ime, if the ota is newer it will download just fine.
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If I load the leak, will my phone pull the official OTA if/when it is ever pushed??
I'd like to know this as well. Please confirm.
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This right here.^

The leak may be B.S., but I'll hold off doing anything until after midnight tonight. According to the leak, you couldn't even get the OTA update until midnight tonight (unless you were one of the few that they initially pushed it to).

However, since we haven't seen anyone get the OTA (I mean there's enough people in these forums and others that I visit, that someone had to get it), I'm guessing that leak was bull and it's not coming out anytime soon. So as TrooperThorn said, I will re-root my phone, then go after S-OFF, and then install the leak.

What a joke this whole thing has been.

You don't have to go after S-OFF to install the leaked version of ICS. I woke up this morning and still no update so I went ahead and installed the leak. Phone seems so crisp and flawless. Go ahead and enjoy ICS now and if the OTA ever comes, if it is version higher than 4.0.3 like has been reported, you will still get the update.
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I'd like to know this as well. Please confirm.
No. If you installed the leak, your phone will not update to the official OTA. The only way to get the OTA update is to have S-OFF.

Here was my similar question, and here is the answer from scotty85:

If I install the leak, will I still be able to receive the official OTA update? I remember reading that the leak would have the same version numbers as the official update, so you phone would be stuck with the leak (unless you got S-OFF). Is that still the case?

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yes. that is very much still the case. if the leak happens to be the OTA,then youll have it. if it doesnt,then you wont recieve the OTA,being on a leak. updater script looks for official release numbers. in order to get the official version,youll have to run another ruu.
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Meh, I'm fine until the official OTA launches. Really I just want CM9, but it's not on the Rezound yet...
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Ok...here we go. I downloaded the RUU_Vigor_3.14.605.10_PH98IMG.zip to the desktop on my computer. Now I will need to:
After downloading the file, rename it to "PH98IMG.zip" (no quotes)
Place the renamed file onto the root of the SD Card
Power down your device
Reboot into the bootloader by holding VOL DOWN + Power
The flashing process should begin automatically

Is this right??

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Sounds about right...

It will nuke everything so make sure you have all your personal data backed up.
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Called VZW today for update. Nice, but not well informed rep looks on the computer & says the improved update coming "in the next few months" per a 7/31/12 computer update.

More jerking around.....
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Called VZW today for update. Nice, but not well informed rep looks on the computer & says the improved update coming "in the next few months" per a 7/31/12 computer update.

More jerking around.....
If that's true, the update better be to 4.1 instead of Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Called VZW today for update. Nice, but not well informed rep looks on the computer & says the improved update coming "in the next few months" per a 7/31/12 computer update.

More jerking around.....
I'm done with Verizon.
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I know it was pointless but I called Verizon and they blame HTC for not releasing it. I pointed out the change log on HTC website, leak build, leaked screen shot, and all... They said they don't have any info and that HTC is the one to push the update and that Verizon must test then either approve or send back to htc for more testing. I said the leaked screen shot said it was ready to go....
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This has NOTHING to do with Google owning Moto. This is ALL a VZW/Moto thing. If you had a HTC phone on Sprint you wouldn't have any problems. Moto is VZW's golden boy
That was actually my point. VZW doesn't want give HTC the time of day as a result. Moto is now the "golden boy" as you put it..... and I hate Moto. This sucks.
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Called Verizon to let them know Mobile Hotspot is still not working on Android 2.3 and that the fourth replacement Rezound they sent me is still overheating. 110F after just 10 mins of browsing and easily 120F while streaming.

They are sending me a Galaxy Nexus. Should be here tomorrow. So long Rezound forum! I've stuck it out as long as I could! But even if we get ICS in the next few days, who knows if and when the Rezound will ever get Jelly Bean. It'll take a lot of convincing to get me back into an hTC again.

My Motorola Xoom is older than the Rezound and it already has Jelly Bean!
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My Motorola Xoom is older than the Rezound and it already has Jelly Bean!
Yea, it is running stock android though. plus google always considered it a defacto dev tab....

And lets all try not to blame HTC too much. Hell the Evo 3D is already getting ICS after all.,

This is all on VZW
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Meh, I'm fine until the official OTA launches. Really I just want CM9, but it's not on the Rezound yet...
Not perfect, but still waiting on the ICS source from HTC/Verizon to finish a couple things

[ROM] [8/1/12] CM9 Kangs (Beta) [4.0.4] [CDMA]
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Also note a couple people in this thread both claim to have called VZW today and been told the update will be available today... take it with a grain of salt.
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If that's true, the update better be to 4.1 instead of Ice Cream Sandwich.
Yeah, and with Sense 4.0 unless someone can tell me EXACTLY WHY it isn't compatible.
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What are the Vegas odds that we get ICS update tonight? I wounder if someone has started a pool on it yet?
I know the odds of this thread getting merged into the ICS Speculation thread
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Yeah, and with Sense 4.0 unless someone can tell me EXACTLY WHY it isn't compatible.
^This

I been meaning to ask one of our Mods to stop by and see if he can shed some light on the subject.

All I have heard is that the fact that the CPU wasn't a S4 is the reason. But that is the only the reason, it does nothing for making me understand why a S3 CPU can't run newest sense
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I been meaning to ask one of are Mods to stop by and see if he can shed some light on the subject.

All I have heard is that the fact that the CPU wasn't a S4 is the reason. But that is the only the reason, it does nothing for making me understand why a S3 CPU can't run newest sense
The only thing I can think of is OpenGL compatibility. Sense 4.0 relies heavily on it for 3D transitions and weird animations. I've said it before, but I wish Sense was a modular overlay, coming completely Vanilla and customizable via downloadable features. I'd skip the OpenGL elements. But I love the keyboard, the camera, the widgets, and the overall feel. Not crazy about the animations, vertically-paginated app drawer, the spinning homescreens, and the lack of scrolling wallpaper.
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It can run Sense 4 seeing as how you can install Nils Business Sense 4 or Newts One XxX on an unlocked Rezound. Both running Sense 4 from my understanding...

Anything else is VZW making a marketing ploy to get you to a newer device.
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Hi!

So, I'm using an HTC Evo 3D (aka 3vo, s-off, stock rooted rom, through wifi only now) and an HTC Evo 4G LTE (aka LTEvo, s-off, this is the Sprint HTC One X variant) as my regular phone now.

For those unfamiliar - take a 3vo, change qHD 3D panel to 720p HD panel and change Sprint radios to Verizon radios and you have the Rezound, so I think the story here may be quite valuable or useful to some here.

Whatever technical or marketing issues may exist for Sense 4 being missing, I want to chime in that you wouldn't want it the way HTC delivers it. As I am practically the HTC Poster Boy for those that don't know me, that's saying a lot, I promise.

As delivered, HTC has - on all One models - totally, completely and absolutely borked memory management. Out of the box, my 3vo running Sense 3/Gingerbread runs circles around the stock One X Sense4/ICS in multitasking - the observation is held universally by all upgrading along the 3vo to LTEvo path.

Furthermore, HTC is aware of it and despite user complaints, insists that the sky is blue and has no issues -

HTC Addresses Multitasking Concerns For One X and S – Calls It “Sense” Optimized

Note the article says that Sense 4 isn't as lean and lightweight as they claim. That's 100% true. I develop industrial Linux apps so I very well know my way around that part of Android and I've got some people believing that I know other bits about Android, so trust me, it's not lightweight at all. I did very close monitoring of system transactions and memory-use profiling, and if you do the same, you'll agree, the Sense 4 lightweight story is simply marketing. And I don't have a problem with that, I don't much care for the Sense-bashing blogosphere with writers who've tried Sense 1 on an old cramped phone and continue to lecture the rest of us about synthetic benchmarks. Sense rocks.

So - if you want to enjoy Sense 4, you need to try it rooted where some dev (or yourself) goes to the trouble get rational memory management restored from their new and improved way.

Had HTC released Sense 4 for the 3vo and Rezound, you'd be crying murder for your missing multitasking power - and had they gotten it right for the older models, the One owners would be crying murder for being left out of the right way - and HTC is standing firm on not changing it.

So - does Sense 4 really require a newer processor and the dev community is wrong? I didn't bother to check on my 3vo, I'll let you be the judge.

Is the Sense 3.6 thing a ruse to get you to update to a newer phone? I honestly have no opinion one way or the other.

But are you lucky to not get it in its present form and are you dodging a bullet?

In my opinion, that's a huge yes.

If all you want is the new Sense 4 clock, get Droid27's 3D Flip Clock and Weather and go to town on the custom skins. It includes font choice and you can get the Sense 4 look in a heartbeat, no root required, and get an exact match to the HTC one - best part - it's free.

Other best part - that works 100% with the ICS-required Nova launcher (root not required for that, either).

I've switched to the Nova launcher on my LTEvo - my first time committing to non-Rosie (Sense) launcher for my daily driver in two years.

Seriously, once you're down with ICS, just try Nova for a few days, check out all of the features - you may still like Sense, but with ICS, you just may not.

Ok, many thanks for reading, I hope I've cleared some stuff up rather than made things worse. I'm subscribed to this thread and will pop back to answer questions.

In any case, these are my opinions, your mileage may vary and there's not a thing wrong with that because Android is all about choice.
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I'll take it from you. I know some of those words you used.

So, should I talk to HTC Devs about my modular Sense 5 ideas? I love Sense as a launcher. I just don't think it should be completely forced on everyone who likes HTC's hardware. It should be about options, not their opinion of what a phone should look like on the screen.
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I'll take it from you. I know some of those words you used.

So, should I talk to HTC Devs about my modular Sense 5 ideas? I love Sense as a launcher. I just don't think it should be completely forced on everyone who likes HTC's hardware. It should be about options, not their opinion of what a phone should look like on the screen.
I share the dream. Sell them like cars. Give me a stripped EX model and let me choose the LX package as an add on. Do a good job, I would pay extra for the LX model.

I'd like to see an HTC Nexus as an alternative.
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I'd like to see an HTC Nexus as an alternative.
There's always THAT...


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I Just got this message from HTC on facebook...


ME: My HTC experience...waited over a year for the Incredible to come out after you announced it..waited almost a year for the Inc4G to come out. Now i find myself waiting possibly a year or more for the Rezound to get ICS...at least you guys are consistant.
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HTC Hi, Tim. The Rezound is still set to receive ICS. The updates are still rolling out right now. Our goal is to make sure that an upgrade provides an equal or improved customer experience and that means a high standard of quality for hardware compatibility, adapting device or carrier specific customizations, testing by HTC and partners, addressing device hardware constraints, and many other factors. When we have the release ready, we'll be sure to share more information. Thanks for remaining so patient.
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ME: Thanks for the update, and taking the time to repsond..there are a LOT of people who would like a web announcement like this. As for a timeline...days? weeks? longer? Sept 12 is the release of the iPhone 5...think i will have ICS by then?
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Old August 1st, 2012, 06:01 PM   #882 (permalink)
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This the reply I got from HTC to a Facebook post I made regarding this issue.

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Hi, David. The Rezound is still set to receive ICS. The updates are still rolling out right now. Our goal is to make sure that an upgrade provides an equal or improved customer experience and that means a high standard of quality for hardwa...re compatibility, adapting device or carrier specific customizations, testing by HTC and partners, addressing device hardware constraints, and many other factors. When we have the release ready, we'll be sure to share more information. Thanks for remaining so patient.
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I finally did it after waiting 6 months I finally installed the leak. My 4g would drop when ever I opened a app. Did a hard reset cleaned the sim etc... Nothing worked. Updating to the ICS leak did! I was getting sick of only having 3G.
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I also posted my disappointment on Verizon's Facebook page and did not get a response. No surprise there.
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Apparently, some people are claiming that they have gotten the official OTA. Now, they could very VERY easily be full of it, as it is just people commenting under an article, but it could be something.

I got this from an XDA thread:

"Couple comments here that they got it.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2012/...nd-on-verizon/"

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ICS Update tomorrow - Page 23 - xda-developers
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Apparently, some people are claiming that they have gotten the official OTA. Now, they could very VERY easily be full of it, as it is just people commenting under an article, but it could be something.

I got this from an XDA thread:

"Couple comments here that they got it.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2012/...nd-on-verizon/"
Pics or it didn't happen.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
Like I said, they could easily be full of it. But hey, at least we are getting to the point where people are possibly lying about it.
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This the reply I got from HTC to a Facebook post I made regarding this issue.

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Hi, David. The Rezound is still set to receive ICS. The updates are still rolling out right now. Our goal is to make sure that an upgrade provides an equal or improved customer experience and that means a high standard of quality for hardwa...re compatibility, adapting device or carrier specific customizations, testing by HTC and partners, addressing device hardware constraints, and many other factors. When we have the release ready, we'll be sure to share more information. Thanks for remaining so patient.
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Like I said, they could easily be full of it. But hey, at least we are getting to the point where people are possibly lying about it.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
If people were getting some pushed, I would hope to GOD that someone caught it and captured the download RUU (or whatever they do to make a PH98IMG.zip file) to share. XDA is all over that. Speaking of which, it's time I go over there and see what's up for myself!
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Like I said, they could easily be full of it. But hey, at least we are getting to the point where people are possibly lying about it.
Well i guess that is some sort of improvement, lol

Until VZW updates the update PDF it just plain isn't happening IMO. Once they do that we will see something within a week.....
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I have tried for the past two hours to go to the update server. It takes quite a while and finally returns with a message that the server isn't available. FWIW.
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Pics or it didn't happen.


Does this count? (Not mine, I swear)
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Well, this guy claimed that he initially got a 7mb file that preps the phone for the update. Then his phone started downloading the update. People demanded pics and he posted one.

See for yourself:
ice cream update - Page 2 - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com

(Edit: Just saw Wounded's post. Yeah that's the pic from this thread.)
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Seems like HTC has restarted the clock...the standard answer now is :

What is the overall timeline of Android 4.0 updates?
The majority of devices will receive upgrades in June and July 2012 and we expect to finish upgrades in August 2012 for all announced devices.
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(Edit: Just saw Wounded's post. Yeah that's the pic from this thread.)
Nobody's called me by my last name since AOL...

I tried posting pics of real screenshots of my .10 leak software info to compare. I can easily use PicSay Pro to make mine look just like that one. In fact, I did, and you might not be able to tell with an external camera.

Why do I insist on being so skeptical and cynical? Short answer: Because I'm bored.
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I'm going to remain hopeful.

Twitter / GhostofMumbles: #ICS #VERIZON #REZOUND, Official ...

Twitter / GhostofMumbles: @GhostofMumbles @JBoogieDown ...
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I'm following them to see what else happens. I want to compare it to .10 leak and see if VZW crippled anything. Considering the FCC ruling about the whole hotspot thing, who knows... maybe they unlocked that.

Has anyone tried clearing the Google Services Framework data and/or cache to "force" the OTA?
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I'm following them to see what else happens. I want to compare it to .10 leak and see if VZW crippled anything. Considering the FCC ruling about the whole hotspot thing, who knows... maybe they unlocked that.

Has anyone tried clearing the Google Services Framework data and/or cache to "force" the OTA?
Yeah I just read up on that and have been trying it myself. I did it over and over again, because many people in both a Nexus forum and a Xoom forum said it took several attempts. Eventually I got to the point where I clicked "Check New" and it would bring up the message that it was checking, but never actually tell me "No new software update available."

This excited me, so I pressed "Check New" again, and this time it wouldn't do anything. I waited a while and then eventually rebooted the phone. When it finished powering up, when I unlocked the screen it popped up with a "No new update available" dialog. Very strange. The strange behavior definitely got my hopes up, but they were quickly dashed.
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Well, only 2 more hours until we can pull the update for ourselves (according to that "leaked" document that has been photoshopped a dozen times over).
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I'm not stressing it, but I would like to compare this alleged .12 update to the .10 leak. I still have dev options in my settings and a few other little weirdities. BTW, what exactly did you lose when you cleared GSF data and cache? Everything, like a wipe?
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