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Old October 24th, 2011, 09:50 PM   #101 (permalink)
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What is it with apple and flash anyway? I mean love or hate MS how can you continually put out a smart phone with no flash support. My girlfriend had a run in with itunes just last month now that I think about it. She bought something on apple tv for her son and her PC had a HD crash. She got it fixed and now some of the stuff she bought will not play anymore. Also she said they changed it to where you can no longer d/l stuff to the device or something. You have to put it on your PC and sync it. Not sure what that's all about but I have a funny feeling it's something to do with apples control issues. I love the fact that androids have so much customization. To me if the price to pay for that is a few more occasional bugs I will pay it. It is kind of a big deal to me. My mind sees it like apple is saying something like, "Hey look we can make it so there is no crime and everything is great. Oh by the way, we did it by getting rid of that pesky free will thing." Freedom of choice who needs it right..lol. But again as I said apple didn't get their rep by putting out a bad product so freedom of choice works both ways.
That's exactly what happened to me. After their tech people kept sending me links to their support pages (to no avail) they suggested I repurchase the content. Mine was also due to a crashed hard drive (on my Ipod). That's when they lost me as a customer & my dislike for Apple started. Hope that's a good enough reason.

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i have never really liked apple and with all the new lawsuites that are now coming form them the hate is even worse
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DRM is mostly a product of the greedy music execs and not really Apple. Apple's iTunes has all that content because it has such a PITA DRM system in place. You'd think these music execs were fighting to keep more money in the music artist's pockets but nope, the music artist barely even gets a percentage of sales for their music. Not that I'm defending Apple since they're part of that greedy system, but the music execs are some of the biggest scumbags out there.


Blackthantos, have your G/F try what is illustrated below. With Apple it's not just a simple process of cutting your music library from one computer to another. You actually have to "Authorize computer" on the new computer or hard drive as well.

 
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If i do get the Vigor instead of the Nexus it doesnt really matter when HTC releases an updated. There will be an ICS rom wayyy before Verizon and HTC release an official update. Its not that hard to root and try it out and if you dont like it you can always flash back to stock.

So official updates don't really matter to me and I dont see what the big deal is.

Just my .02
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If i do get the Vigor instead of the Nexus it doesnt really matter when HTC releases an updated. There will be an ICS rom wayyy before Verizon and HTC release an official update. Its not that hard to root and try it out and if you dont like it you can always flash back to stock.

So official updates don't really matter to me and I dont see what the big deal is.

Just my .02

The only problem I have with the whole rom scene is that it's sometimes a crap shoot, and then sometimes you can really jack your phone up.
 
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The only problem I have with the whole rom scene is that it's sometimes a crap shoot, and then sometimes you can really jack your phone up.
That's like saying sometimes you can crash your car

Research on how to root, using reputable devs' roms that have been tested, and following directions alleviate this problem 99.99% of the time. Guarantee that jacked up phones only occur when the above formula is not followed. The .01 would apply to those who don't.

That said, rooting is not for everyone and I get that.
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DRM is mostly a product of the greedy music execs and not really Apple. Apple's iTunes has all that content because it has such a PITA DRM system in place. You'd think these music execs were fighting to keep more money in the music artist's pockets but nope, the music artist barely even gets a percentage of sales for their music. Not that I'm defending Apple since they're part of that greedy system, but the music execs are some of the biggest scumbags out there.


Blackthantos, have your G/F try what is illustrated below. With Apple it's not just a simple process of cutting your music library from one computer to another. You actually have to "Authorize computer" on the new computer or hard drive as well.


In my case the computer's hard drive didn't crash, but the ipod's. I had to send it in and they replaced the hard drive and battery. After I got it back, my music purchases were fine, but itunes didn't recognize me as the legitimate owner of my videos. I tried deauthorizing and reauthorizing, I wiped all authorized devices and added them back and no help. After a week of emailing back and forth with itunes support (all they did was keep sending me links to their support pages, which I had already gone through but tried again anyway), they said the solution was to repurchase my video content. I asked if they would credit my account to do that and I was told that they could not do that, that it would be up to me to foot the bill. I was ticked to say the least since I had already purchased the content once (around $75 worth), and their program was causing the problem. I was told that was all they could do.

Shortly after apple and I parted ways, I had to reinstall windows. I started with a new hard drive, so it was a clean install, installed itunes, logged in, authorized my computer, then after adding all my music and videos back in I connected my ipod. Same as before, music was fine, I could watch my videos in itunes (though it asked me with each video I opened to authorize myself as the owner), but I couldn't transfer my videos to my ipod no matter what I did, because it said I was not the authorized owner even after seconds before reauthorizing myself.

What really makes me angry is if they had simply credited my account so I could repurchase my content, I would probably still be a customer today. At that time I was still looking forward to Verizon getting the iphone. But they got greedy and didn't support a customer. Since then when I have looked for videos, sometimes itunes is the only one that has them. But after my experience I will not even consider getting it from them.

It's not like I had a device that was out of warranty and I demanded it be fixed, this was for the content that I had purchased. I had actually bought the extended warranty and the repair to my ipod was taken care of through it. I upheld my end of the deal, if they whould've upheld their's, either by actually finding the cause of the issue or making it right by allowing me to repurchase the content without charge, they would've still had a loyal customer.
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Like I said, DRM (Digital Rights Management) is more a product of the owners of the content. iTunes is definitely a POS when it comes to DRM flexibility, but I've also had problems with Windows when it comes to media that I have the rights to. I've even had trouble with Amazon when it comes to their media. Ask me about the movie I don't have in my library even though I paid for because I had a computer crash on me and Amazon won't re-issue me a license to play the movie.
 
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Like I said, DRM (Digital Rights Management) is more a product of the owners of the content. iTunes is definitely a POS when it comes to DRM flexibility, but I've also had problems with Windows when it comes to media that I have the rights to. I've even had trouble with Amazon when it comes to their media. Ask me about the movie I don't have in my library even though I paid for because I had a computer crash on me and Amazon won't re-issue me a license to play the movie.
Had that to with Amazon. But it is necessary or we'd be sharing everything like a bunch of pinko commies!
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I know there was concern about this before, but here is what a Google rep "officially" said about the hardware vs. onscreen buttons in ICS:

“ICS does have onscreen buttons but not always. If there’s a device with hardware buttons the onscreen buttons won’t be there, and the hardware buttons will act and function as you’d expect them to…. back and home will function as you’d expect, the search button will query the search bar (as you’d expect), and the menu button will query the menu overflow in the action bar.”

Link here, from Phandroid > Engadget:

Yes, Your Android Buttons Will Still Work with Ice Cream Sandwich
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I know there was concern about this before, but here is what a Google rep "officially" said about the hardware vs. onscreen buttons in ICS:

“ICS does have onscreen buttons but not always. If there’s a device with hardware buttons the onscreen buttons won’t be there, and the hardware buttons will act and function as you’d expect them to…. back and home will function as you’d expect, the search button will query the search bar (as you’d expect), and the menu button will query the menu overflow in the action bar.”

Link here, from Phandroid > Engadget:

Yes, Your Android Buttons Will Still Work with Ice Cream Sandwich
Saw that too. I don't know why everyone was in such a tizzy over the onscreen buttons and how they'd work on devices with capacitive buttons. If ICS worked the way everone feared, Google would be drawing a line in the sand as far as upgrades go. They don't usually do that unless there is no way for the hardware to support it. Remember how originally the only devies to get GB had to be at least a 4" screen and a few other specs that basically eliminated most phones from last year? And yet those phones are getting GB.

Besides I can't imagine it's that hard to code into ICS to have it check the location in the device software that shows whether or not the device has hardware buttons. All it would be is an if/then gate, that's basic microprocessing/computing.
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Saw that too. I don't know why everyone was in such a tizzy over the onscreen buttons and how they'd work on devices with capacitive buttons. If ICS worked the way everone feared, Google would be drawing a line in the sand as far as upgrades go. They don't usually do that unless there is no way for the hardware to support it. Remember how originally the only devies to get GB had to be at least a 4" screen and a few other specs that basically eliminated most phones from last year? And yet those phones are getting GB.

Besides I can't imagine it's that hard to code into ICS to have it check the location in the device software that shows whether or not the device has hardware buttons. All it would be is an if/then gate, that's basic microprocessing/computing.
The issue I would have had with the on-screen buttons and hardware buttons was if the on-screen buttons would show up, which would take up screen space. Not sure who else feels the same way...
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The issue I would have had with the on-screen buttons and hardware buttons was if the on-screen buttons would show up, which would take up screen space. Not sure who else feels the same way...

That's what I saw it as, with on-screen buttons you'd have less screen space. Without the onscreen buttons you'd have that extra real estate for screen space....
 
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That's what I saw it as, with on-screen buttons you'd have less screen space. Without the onscreen buttons you'd have that extra real estate for screen space....
I can see that. But I couldn't understand why Google would leave it that way. If they would, they have a ton of people complaining that they lost screen space after upgrading, and either wanting them to fix it or make it possible to go back to GB.
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Well it is a good thing that we don't have to worry about that. When we get ICS it will be without the on-screen buttons. Plus honestly I much rather get this phone with an established OS on it. You have to figure most of the bugs have been stamped out of GB by now.

I hope HTC takes their time with ICS and gets it right the first time...
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Well it is a good thing that we don't have to worry about that. When we get ICS it will be without the on-screen buttons. Plus honestly I much rather get this phone with an established OS on it. You have to figure most of the bugs have been stamped out of GB by now.

I hope HTC takes their time with ICS and gets it right the first time...
I agree. And it will also probably take longer for ICS roms to start coming out, so at least with physical buttons we have the option to run GB or ICS. Although once there is a mostly-stable ICS rom for the Vigor (yes, Vigor!) I doubt most people would go back to GB. I also think it will take a while for apps to be updated to work with ICS anyway.
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I agree. And it will also probably take longer for ICS roms to start coming out, so at least with physical buttons we have the option to run GB or ICS. Although once there is a mostly-stable ICS rom for the Vigor (yes, Vigor!) I doubt most people would go back to GB. I also think it will take a while for apps to be updated to work with ICS anyway.
Very good points. But I am OK with waiting, by the time we see an OTA or ROMS I think most apps will be optimized for ICS (i hope)

And for real when i get the Vigor (yes, vigor) I'm gonna tell people "this is the HTC Vigor (or Droid Vigor if it gets branded a droid)"
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I hope HTC takes their time with ICS and gets it right the first time...

I have to disagree here. Have you ever taken your time with an ice cream sandwich only to get a melted gooey mess all over yourself?
 
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although once there is a mostly-stable ics rom for the vigor (yes, vigor!) i doubt most people would go back to gb.
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and for real when i get the vigor (yes, vigor:d) i'm gonna tell people "this is the htc vigor (or droid vigor if it gets branded a droid)"
LOL! I like your style.
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I'm on my 4th day using Sense 3.5 and figured I'd provide everyone with some feedback on it. While many people are on the fence about ICS/Sense 3.5 I personally think that I'd rather have ICS immediately on my phone over the GB/Sense 3.5 with ability to upgrade later. While I'm enjoying the widgets and having easy access to some of the more used apps, I think I'd rather have ICS available to me. I don't think you're going to really miss out on anything grand by going to an exclusive ICS setup vs a setup with Sense 3.5. Now there are some people out there that must have their Sense regardless of whatever version is available and 3.5 is a little bit of a step up for 3.0 and if you're in that boat then you can probably do without ICS until they work out all the kinks.


I personally think Sense 3.5 isn't a deal breaker for me on an Android phone at this point.
 
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I'm on my 4th day using Sense 3.5 and figured I'd provide everyone with some feedback on it. While many people are on the fence about ICS/Sense 3.5 I personally think that I'd rather have ICS immediately on my phone over the GB/Sense 3.5 with ability to upgrade later. While I'm enjoying the widgets and having easy access to some of the more used apps, I think I'd rather have ICS available to me. I don't think you're going to really miss out on anything grand by going to an exclusive ICS setup vs a setup with Sense 3.5. Now there are some people out there that must have their Sense regardless of whatever version is available and 3.5 is a little bit of a step up for 3.0 and if you're in that boat then you can probably do without ICS until they work out all the kinks.


I personally think Sense 3.5 isn't a deal breaker for me on an Android phone at this point.
Have you had a chance to use ICS? and your "daily driver" ROM before switching to 3.5 , was it sense or non-sense?
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Not looking good for the VigoRezound

HTC’s list of devices that will surely get ICS :
* HTC Sensation (XL,XE,Original)
* HTC EVO 3D
* HTC Incredible S
* HTC Desire HD
* HTC Flyer
* HTC Rhyme
* HTC Desire S
* HTC Salsa
* HTC Desire Z
* Google Nexus One”

http://www.myhtc.biz/blog/2011/htc-phone-list-potentially-receive-ice-cream-sandwich/
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Not looking good for the VigoRezound

HTC’s list of devices that will surely get ICS :
* HTC Sensation (XL,XE,Original)
* HTC EVO 3D
* HTC Incredible S
* HTC Desire HD
* HTC Flyer
* HTC Rhyme
* HTC Desire S
* HTC Salsa
* HTC Desire Z
* Google Nexus One”

HTC phone list to potentially receive Ice Cream Sandwich | My HTC Phone Android Blog News
I wouldn't take that to mean anything since the "vigor/Rezounds" hasn't even been officially announced yet.
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Since you guys are talking about apple, is the iphone4 3g? My DH would like an iphone, but wants to wait until they are 4g capable to spend the money. He really needs a new phone and he is going to take my incredible when i get my rezound/vigor. But he really loves his ipod and wants an iphone. i was thinking about trying to get his upgrade moved up 6 weeks so I can get him a 4s for christmas, or i was thinking of trying to pick up a used 4 to get him by and not mess with locking him in for 2 years so if the 5 ever comes out, and it's 4g, then he could get that.
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Since you guys are talking about apple, is the iphone4 3g? My DH would like an iphone, but wants to wait until they are 4g capable to spend the money. He really needs a new phone and he is going to take my incredible when i get my rezound/vigor. But he really loves his ipod and wants an iphone. i was thinking about trying to get his upgrade moved up 6 weeks so I can get him a 4s for christmas, or i was thinking of trying to pick up a used 4 to get him by and not mess with locking him in for 2 years so if the 5 ever comes out, and it's 4g, then he could get that.

From what I understand and you might want to get confirmation from someone else who is more knowledgeable, but I believe the 4s is technically 3G. They push that it has some technology in it that makes it a little faster(like say 3.5G but I think officially its categorized as a 3G phone.
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From what I understand and you might want to get confirmation from someone else who is more knowledgeable, but I believe the 4s is technically 3G. They push that it has some technology in it that makes it a little faster(like say 3.5G but I think officially its categorized as a 3G phone.
Depends on the carrier...

ATT uses a tech they call 3.5 or 4g "depending on who you talk to"

VZW is 3G ONLY the VZW 4s does not have a LTE chip...
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VZW is 3G ONLY the VZW 4s does not have a LTE chip...
It is verizon. I thought I had read that the iphone4 wasn't even 3g, but I think I read wrong or misunderstood. I have tried to tell him he doesn't need a 4g phone to notice a HUGE difference. He has an LG Ally...and it sucks. I think he will see when he uses my Dinc that a REAL 3g phone will be good for him. I have tried to talk him into a different phone, but he likes the way the Ipod syncs with his stereo system in his Dodge Challenger, he's familiar with Itunes, and he's just familiar with the Ipod alltogether. He's not concerned with ANYTHING that gets mentioned here and is tecnically challenged, moreso than myself
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It is verizon. I thought I had read that the iphone4 wasn't even 3g, but I think I read wrong or misunderstood. I have tried to tell him he doesn't need a 4g phone to notice a HUGE difference. He has an LG Ally...and it sucks. I think he will see when he uses my Dinc that a REAL 3g phone will be good for him. I have tried to talk him into a different phone, but he likes the way the Ipod syncs with his stereo system in his Dodge Challenger, he's familiar with Itunes, and he's just familiar with the Ipod alltogether. He's not concerned with ANYTHING that gets mentioned here and is tecnically challenged, moreso than myself
I've learned over the years its usually better apple people stay apple people If they come to me with questions I answer them but that's it. I've had too many experiences were I've become root of all evil

As far as 3G vs 4G I REALLY don't think its a big deal. for normal usage you'd be hard pressed to see a difference.
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I've learned over the years its usually better apple people stay apple people If they come to me with questions I answer them but that's it. I've had too many experiences were I've become root of all evil

As far as 3G vs 4G I REALLY don't think its a big deal. for normal usage you'd be hard pressed to see a difference.
LOL He's not an Apple "fanboy" by any means. He just like his Ipod touch, and has had it for 2 years now. For him it's more of just being familar with it!! I am completely lost with some of the technical things you all talk about, for him you all might as well be speaking Chinese.

I may just get him the 4s if they'll move his date. He could use Siri, believe me and jailbreaking or rooting is not something even I am yet comfortable with! LOL My Dinc is not rooted, though I did install an early update to it once. But I don't even remember what exactly it was. Sometimes I feel as though I'm not worthy to even own one of these high tech phones!
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i wish haha but do you think it will cause that much of a headache to developers when the source coding is released or may it already be built in to have the captive buttons working?

Its build into ICS. If the captive buttons are there ICS uses them...
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this i dont think the phones CPU and GPU can handle ICS
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this i dont think the phones CPU and GPU can handle ICS
CPU meets the specs, and the GPU might. However,the way ICS would use it would cause that chipset to burn through battery life (IF* the GPU can handle it). I think that between battery concerns and a very weak GPU, Google just wasn't happy with ICS on the N1 and decided to scrap it. I always got the impression that Google had wished that OMAP36xx was ready in time for the N1, and that they settled for Snapdragon (S1). But, that's just one nerd's opinion.
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CPU meets the specs, and the GPU might. However,the way ICS would use it would cause that chipset to burn through battery life (IF* the GPU can handle it). I think that between battery concerns and a very weak GPU, Google just wasn't happy with ICS on the N1 and decided to scrap it. I always got the impression that Google had wished that OMAP36xx was ready in time for the N1, and that they settled for Snapdragon (S1). But, that's just one nerd's opinion.
i agree with ya on that one ... what do you think about the "leak" with the phone list that is getting ICS so far ?
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i agree with ya on that one ... what do you think about the "leak" with the phone list that is getting ICS so far ?
Proven fake last night. It was a speculative list by someone. Also, as to questions about Rezound not being on the list, well, if it were a real list, HTC isn't going to list a phone that isn't officially announced yet.

Also, the appearance of the N1 was a telltale sign of being fake even before Google shot it down. HTC manufactured the phone, but Google does the updates. It would be like Foxconn talking about the next iOS update just because they manufacture the iPhone. HTC sold it to Google and has nothing to do with their update process.

HTC should announce their official list in the next month or two.
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Proven fake last night. It was a speculative list by someone. Also, as to questions about Rezound not being on the list, well, if it were a real list, HTC isn't going to list a phone that isn't officially announced yet.

Also, the appearance of the N1 was a telltale sign of being fake even before Google shot it down. HTC manufactured the phone, but Google does the updates. It would be like Foxconn talking about the next iOS update just because they manufacture the iPhone. HTC sold it to Google and has nothing to do with their update process.

HTC should announce their official list in the next month or two.
humm case in point in my current state i did not think full about that and i can see your point on not having a phone that is not realsed on the list
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CPU meets the specs, and the GPU might. However,the way ICS would use it would cause that chipset to burn through battery life (IF* the GPU can handle it). I think that between battery concerns and a very weak GPU, Google just wasn't happy with ICS on the N1 and decided to scrap it. I always got the impression that Google had wished that OMAP36xx was ready in time for the N1, and that they settled for Snapdragon (S1). But, that's just one nerd's opinion.
I think the telling factor for it not getting ICS is the RAM. Like you said the CPU is probably okay, but I think the combination of the Ram and the GPU is what eliminated it.

As far as Google wanting the OMAP processor, HTC has had a pretty tight relationship with Qualcomm, so I'd think that was always the plan.
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i dont think the brand of processor will effect HTC getting ICS
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I think the telling factor for it not getting ICS is the RAM. Like you said the CPU is probably okay, but I think the combination of the Ram and the GPU is what eliminated it.

As far as Google wanting the OMAP processor, HTC has had a pretty tight relationship with Qualcomm, so I'd think that was always the plan.
I can counter both points. The Nexus 1 has 512MB of RAM, as does the Nexus S, which is confirmed as getting ICS. RAM isn't the issue.

HTC's relationship with Qualcomm doesn't have an affect on which CPU is ultimately used because it's Google's call. Case in point, Galaxy Nexus using OMAP over Exynos (Samsung's baby). Snapdragon simply came to market roughly a full year before OMAP36xx, and the only issues with it were battery life and the GPU. Microsoft did well with it (basis for WP7 Chassis 1), but Google's new UI is doing a lot more than WP7's UI.
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Have you had a chance to use ICS? and your "daily driver" ROM before switching to 3.5 , was it sense or non-sense?

I'm running Gingerbread with Sense 3.5 and I'd say that Sense 3.5 isn't "super fantastic" if you're on the fence about wanting Sense 3.5 over ICS. I actually like Sense 3.0 a little more since the quick launch tasks in Sense 3.5, you can't move those tabs around so you're left with 5 quick launch tabs that take up all the screen instead of being able to add more tabs. It just seems like a waste of space on the main page. Of course I haven't had a lot of time to tweak it but I'd still rather have more access to configuring that page.
 
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Saw this and thought it might interest you guys.
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Thanks for the heads up. I always like it when a new rom comes out and there's a post about it in the TB forum. I like watching all the ensuing chaos. lol
 
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LOL! Well sadly I don't seem to relish kicking over anthills as much as you but maybe you can enjoy it enough for both of us..lol. I basically felt like it would be something to give the people wondering about an ICS ROM for the Vigor in the next few months some hope.
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LOL! Well sadly I don't seem to relish kicking over anthills as much as you but maybe you can enjoy it enough for both of us..lol. I basically felt like it would be something to give the people wondering about an ICS ROM for the Vigor in the next few months some hope.

I just get a kick out of what typically transpires.... "Help I loaded this rom and now my phone does _______!" "Did you read the install instructions?" "Yes I did! What do you think I'm an idiot?" "Well lets see, did you flash the rom with rom manager or did you do as was instructed with renaming files?" "You mean I can't use Rom manager? Where did it say that?" "Damn noobs!"

I agree about it giving people some hope about ICS coming to HTC's high end phones, but considering how long it took us to get Gingerbread after all these roms were already released, I'm going to make my decision when all the phones are released. I saw the GN marketing release and I can honestly say that I didn't see anything that really wowed me.
 
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Yeah me either. I mean I don't claim to be a phone guru, as a matter a fact it's the exact opposite but I have always had the capacity to learn quickly if it's something I'm really interested in. I had a friend that I used to go to for cellphone/smartphone advise and since I've been doing my research to get a new smartphone my friend has no idea what I'm talking about now...lol. I'll talk to him about the difference between SLCD and Super AMOLED and he'll say "What?" I still have a long way to go but I know the people here will be a big help.
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talking about a ICS rom that is not a question it will happen and i know when CM9 comes out after the source code is released then just about every rooted device should be able to run ICS
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Has anyone tried the ICS Launcher?? Is it good enough to hold over untill the offical update?
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HTC makes great phones with the exception of the thunderbolt. TB is their worst phone ever.

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HTC makes great phones with the exception of the thunderbolt. TB is their worst phone ever.

You probably mean worst android phone because I had a touch pro 2 and it was pretty bad as well, of course most Windows Mobile phones are.
 
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