Because people think you should be able to play on a phone like a laptop and not experience any battery drainage. What type of battery drainage do you guys see with the Thunderbolt while the phone is asleep? The EVO drains at about 1% an hour.
well, mandasol, I am happy that you are getting good battery life out of yours, but i must disagree with you, T-44Guy. I was using my first TB regularly (no streaming videos, no games, no pictures or video, no GPS, no bluetooth, screen dimmed to 25%, no extra apps running, no extra apps downloaded, etc.). All I did was some light internet usage (light, meaning checking a webpage or two every few hours). And my TB hardly lasted 4 or 5 hours.
So it seems like the stock batteries are all over the place. Sometimes you just get a good one, I guess. I returned my first TB, now I'm on my second one. Let's see what happens...
Because people think you should be able to play on a phone like a laptop and not experience any battery drainage. What type of battery drainage do you guys see with the Thunderbolt while the phone is asleep? The EVO drains at about 1% an hour.
when my phone is in sleep or standby mode, i get a 3% drainage every hour on average.
well, mandasol, I am happy that you are getting good battery life out of yours, but i must disagree with you, T-44Guy. I was using my first TB regularly (no streaming videos, no games, no pictures or video, no GPS, no bluetooth, screen dimmed to 25%, no extra apps running, no extra apps downloaded, etc.). All I did was some light internet usage (light, meaning checking a webpage or two every few hours). And my TB hardly lasted 4 or 5 hours.
So it seems like the stock batteries are all over the place. Sometimes you just get a good one, I guess. I returned my first TB, now I'm on my second one. Let's see what happens...
That stuff doesn't matter. You can't measure usage because every widget/apps battery usage is different. I would tell folks if your phone is sleeping and it drains at 1% an hour, there is nothing wrong with your phone. If your phone is sleeping correctly, then you can't blame the phone or battery. I tested this on my stock battery and my 1750 mah battery. Same results.
One day I used my phone for nothing but 4 hours straight with the stock battery. Best you can get out of it is 4 hours and change. With a larger battery I got 6 hours of strict internet time.
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I might as well jet my two cents in, I don't use drastic methods to extend my battery life because my battery works around the clock perfectly. I don't know why everyone is having a hard time with theirs but mine works fine
Mine is fine as well. I have very minor tweaks -- change the display brightness, change screen time-out plus manual screen locks to reduce display time, Y5, turn off sync for stocks and news -- but nothing that hinders the way I use my phone in any way. I don't baby it, but I get by a full day and charge every night. I could get two days of life out of my Blackberries, but it's not necessary. It doesn't bother me to plug it in before I go to bed.
when my phone is in sleep or standby mode, i get a 3% drainage every hour on average.
Are you leaving 3G or 4G on while the phone sleeps? I got 3% drainage when I was leaving 3G on while the phone slept. Never ran any test with 4G on and my phone sleeping.
Just FYI, by looking at your battery drainage when your phone sleeps will tell you if an app or process is that you may have just downloaded is draining your battery more than it should while the phone sleeps.
I have what I consider to be rather exemplary battery life for what the TB is (and it's itty tiny battery).
This is what I did, and I think it's rather tame for battery savings. I have most things set at an hour (or auto off) to update. I know there are people that will say that's a travesty, it's a smart phone for God's sake and the thing should update every 5 minutes. If I need to know right away I will check myself.
I have my screen brightness stock, so I assume it's max or pretty darn close. That right there amounts for a large majority of my battery use. Sometimes when I am just playing with it (that's what she said) I find it to be in the 60-70% of my battery use.
I spent 3.5 hours waiting yesterday and spent the whole time listening to Amazon MP3 (not streaming, installed music), playing games, or Internet and went from 90 to 30 percent. Part of that time I was just listening so I manual click off the screen, which I always do before I put the thing down.
I know I could do a lot to maximize the battery life, adjust the screen would do a lot, also I need to bump charge it. I am over the moon at this point with how happy I am with the phone. I'm planning of doing a standby only test the next few days to see how much it drops just chillin.
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Well.. I unplugged my phone at about 7:30am, did not bump charge it back up to 100%, so I probably started at about 96%. I've been on it very heavily today. It is rooted, running a custom ROM and Kernel and is overclocked.
As of this post, just under 11hrs later, im at 48%.
On an average work day, I'd be on the phone MUCH less, and would be in the 70% range right now. I'd consider that great battery life for everything this phone is capable of..
That being said, I do have the car dock w/ 12v charger, plus a spare battery and Micro USB cable in my center console as well as a standard wall charger at work. None of which have been touched today. Gotta be prepared just in case though.. lol
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Reason: Finishing my thought..
No lie. I have been on my phone playing games and on the net (via 4g and wifi). Since 10 this morning and my battey is at about 30%. So today is a very good day for tb in my eyes. I did though
change the syncs and delete some non needed files yesterday that were running in back round.
I would bet that those that are getting real short battery life have a problem with the phone not sleeping properly.
My TB would sleep drawing -135mA
Killing all the running apps didn't help.
As an experiment I flashed the Virus rom and reinstalled all my apps with Titanium Backup and now my phone sleeps drawing less than -40mAp
Task killers is bad for Froyo. Actually kills your battery faster by killing apps and it screws up Android. There is an article about this from the top developer at Android.
If you unplug the phone when it indicates fully charged you won't need to bump charge the phone. Bump charging is like believing in the tooth ferry. If bump charging was legit, why didn't HTC include this bright idea in the manual for all their phones? Bump charge while rubbing your stomach and touching your nose will improve your battery life if you ask me. Everyone just think about what I just said to see how ridiculous it sounds.
Task killers is bad for Froyo. Actually kills your battery faster by killing apps and it screws up Android. There is an article about this from the top developer at Android.
If you unplug the phone when it indicates fully charged you won't need to bump charge the phone. Bump charging is like believing in the tooth ferry. If bump charging was legit, why didn't HTC include this bright idea in the manual for all their phones? Bump charge while rubbing your stomach and touching your nose will improve your battery life if you ask me. Everyone just think about what I just said to see how ridiculous it sounds.
have you even bothered to try bump charging?
phone charges completely(while on)
turn phone off
phone goes back to orange light
phone charges another 20 mins before turning green again
hmm seems like the odds that bump charging does indeed work are greater than it not working
I would bet that those that are getting real short battery life have a problem with the phone not sleeping properly.
My TB would sleep drawing -135mA
Killing all the running apps didn't help.
As an experiment I flashed the Virus rom and reinstalled all my apps with Titanium Backup and now my phone sleeps drawing less than -40mAp
How do you tell if it is sleeping properly?
Today my up time is 35:43 and awake is 2:56 and I have 4% battery left. time spent without sleeping 2m 31 sec
suggestions?
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Originally Posted by T-44Guy
If you unplug the phone when it indicates fully charged you won't need to bump charge the phone. Bump charging is like believing in the tooth ferry. If bump charging was legit, why didn't HTC include this bright idea in the manual for all their phones? Bump charge while rubbing your stomach and touching your nose will improve your battery life if you ask me. Everyone just think about what I just said to see how ridiculous it sounds.
IF you unplug your phone right when the LED flips..
You cannot trickle charge a lithium ion battery without major issues. Instead, when your phone reaches full charge, 100%, the LED will change. The phone will then draw from the battery, allowing it to drain, while still showing a full charge. When it reaches a preset %, 92% I believe, it will start to charge back to 100%. It will continue to 'cycle' until you remove the charger.
Depending on when you remove the charger, and where in that 'cycle' the battery is, will determine where your charge truly is when you unplug it.
Simply unplugging your phone does not use 4%-5% of your battery..
After it drops, plugging it back in starts the 'cycle' again. If you keep an eye on your phone and pull it off the charger right when the LED shows green, it will stay at 100% and drop accordingly.
Task killers is bad for Froyo. Actually kills your battery faster by killing apps and it screws up Android. There is an article about this from the top developer at Android.
I agree 100% with this statement.... I would never let a task killer anywhere near my phone.
Having said that, I don't understand why you chose to quote me in your post.
How do you tell if it is sleeping properly?
Today my up time is 35:43 and awake is 2:56 and I have 4% battery left. time spent without sleeping 2m 31 sec
suggestions?
I use Battery Monitor Widget 3c06... free on the market.
Read the help file on how to properly set it up for monitoring the sleep mode.
I also found out, besides Tango, Tickl was draining my battery quick too. Tango seemed to kill it just being in my pocket in about 2 hours. Once I removed it, I was still only getting about 6 hours max to one charge, uninstalled a few apps I had on my D1 that copied over, and now its been running for over 7 hours and im only at 65%.
i didn't think about the apps that carried over until I noticed Tango killing my battery, then I thought about the rest of the apps my phone had. thats what I think it was for me...anyone else have Tickl installed?
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Yea seriously, thread name should be changed... I got all excited thinking it was with the Stock battery. Ofcourse your going to see that type of battery life, your phone is now as big as the original Shoe phone...hahahaha!
I am getting great battery life with the extended battery - I tried again the stock battery, and it still sucks - I know stock is too small, but I am getting probably 3x the time with the extended, could it be that the stock batteries are defective
I am getting great battery life with the extended battery - I tried again the stock battery, and it still sucks - I know stock is too small, but I am getting probably 3x the time with the extended, could it be that the stock batteries are defective
The extended battery (I have one as well) is double the MaH of the stock battery, so you should be getting 2 to 3x the battery life of the stock battery.
Now saying that I have seen some posts about some of the stock batteries performing better then others. There seems to have been two batches of batteries that shiped with the phone, and it looks like one of the batches might be better then the other.
The extended battery (I have one as well) is double the MaH of the stock battery, so you should be getting 2 to 3x the battery life of the stock battery.
Now saying that I have seen some posts about some of the stock batteries performing better then others. There seems to have been two batches of batteries that shiped with the phone, and it looks like one of the batches might be better then the other.
i think im going with this theory as well, just to all over the board with results
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I actually was not satisfied with the battery life with the TB, even though i am a big fan of HTC ( the only brand i will buy in the android os phone) but last nite i shut off the 4g and left 3g on and its doing pretti good guys! I guess becuz its a first 4g phone the battery isn't really tested out yet but i am sure on the next update it will be fixed!
I actually was not satisfied with the battery life with the TB, even though i am a big fan of HTC ( the only brand i will buy in the android os phone) but last nite i shut off the 4g and left 3g on and its doing pretti good guys! I guess becuz its a first 4g phone the battery isn't really tested out yet but i am sure on the next update it will be fixed!
Yep, something else for people to keep in mind. The LTE network is new and not as robust as the 3G network yet. Because of that our phones have more of a chance that they will have to be searching for signals more then normal. This happens with 3G as well as CDMA will always look for the strongest signal, the good thing about that is you should always have the best signal quality, the trade off is it will effect your battery life.
Now with the newness of LTE, we will be searching for a signal more, and add to that the network not having all the bugs worked out. The 4G will effect battery life.
1st: apologies for being the Android n00b. I'm a droid virgin; be gentle.
Perhaps the schooled users could fill in the blank about 'expected' battery life for me. Color me spoiled, but I got used to 10-12 days w/o having to charge my old (read: archaic) LG enV (and yes, I have finally joined the 21st century w/ this phone, TYVM). And now I might get 36 hours with my new Thunderbolt. I switched off the GPS & WiFi, dropped the brightness down and I'm not continuously running any (many?) apps that weren't pre-installed (removing some of them is my next question, for another thread). But you can imagine my shock: going from recharging once every couple weeks to every night? I don't take a lot of calls, play a lot of games or anything, even TXT use is minimal. And we don't have 4g here yet, so I'm still on a 3g network.
So I guess I'm just curious what I should expect from the phone? Should I just plan to toss it on the charger every night, overnight? Do I need to be mindful of any apps that stop the from sleeping (because I haven't installed many, but one or two might have that 'feature')?
With my original Droid, it started off lasting a couple nights on high use, but by the end it was every night. My Windows Mobile phones I was also charging every night, I am a above average texter...
I know the older flip phones used to last me days and days...but I would have to say...get used to charging it every night.
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