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Old April 11th, 2011, 03:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How many times should you "bump charge"?

I understand how to "bump charge", but I'm curious, how many "bump charge" cycles should you go through? Will doing it so many times permanently "fix" the battery so that you don't have to bump charge anymore?

Only reason I ask is because yesterday, I did a partial (albeit, accidental) "bump charge", and it seemed to help battery life quite a bit. I stayed on 4G, had my phone on for about 6-7 hours, did Internet browsing for about 45 minutes to an hour, and only lost a sliver of battery. I didn't charge the battery again last night, but I had about the same usage today, except the battery shot down to 20~%, some how. I'm not sure why there was such a huge difference between yesterday and today, but that initial "bump charge" I did yesterday seemed to help a bit, at the time, even though it was only a partial "bump charge".

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Old April 11th, 2011, 05:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm curious about this as well since I've stopped bump charging in the morning and I've noticed my battery has been draining a bit quicker. Usually I only have about 20ish minutes in the morning when I can bump charge so I figured it wasn't going to help much, but now I'm not so sure.
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The battery will never just start realizing it's been bump charged for a month and start fully charging. It's the way all HTC phones were designed to not charge to 100% fully. That being said, some people swear by bumping others say it's pointless. I find it helps my life tremendously so I do it every morning during the week. I'd say if you don't mind having your phone off for an hour or so every morning then go nuts.
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I thought that bump charging is really bad for your battery. Does anyone Know if this is true? I don't want to buy a new battery in 4 months because of bump charging.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 07:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I thought that bump charging is really bad for your battery. Does anyone Know if this is true? I don't want to buy a new battery in 4 months because of bump charging.
Who told you or where did you hear it's really bad? The amount of "damage" done by bump charging is trivial compared to it's advantages. Maybe 5 years from now you'd notice slight drop in charge holding, but I really doubt it.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Bump charging decreases the life span of your battery. Yes it works, but at a cost.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 07:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you for posting that, It's definitely a good read. I used to own an Inc so I know all about that. It also states...
"So what does it all mean?

If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge..."

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Bump charging decreases the life span of your battery. Yes it works, but at a cost.
That article shows no actual proof or studies that bumping will reduce or damage your battery. He just says that it will. BTW, I think you're going to die earlier than you normally would if you eat steak twice a week. See what I did there?
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That article shows no actual proof or studies that bumping will reduce or damage your battery. He just says that it will. BTW, I think you're going to die earlier than you normally would if you eat steak twice a week. See what I did there?
After all that research, you're going to disregard his opinion that bump charging decreases the lifespan of the battery? No, I don't see what you did there. The guy obviously knows what he's talking about.
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After all that research, you're going to disregard his opinion that bump charging decreases the lifespan of the battery? No, I don't see what you did there. The guy obviously knows what he's talking about.
He did a great job researching and i've personally thanked him for it when he created a thread in the Inc section. There is no proven stat that says it will damage your battery in the long run, though. It's an opinion until there is actually proof. If you don't want to bump because of that article that's your choice.
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He did a great job researching and i've personally thanked him for it when he created a thread in the Inc section. There is no proven stat that says it will damage your battery in the long run, though. It's an opinion until there is actually proof. If you don't want to bump because of that article that's your choice.
You say it won't, he says it will. Guess who I'm going to listen to.
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You say it won't, he says it will. Guess who I'm going to listen to.
Haha, good for you, like I said it's your choice to bump or not and I could care less.
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Eh, well, I decided to order one of those 2750 batteries. I don't think the extra hump in the back will bother me too much. Just not sure I can deal with the short battery life of the stock battery. Question, though, does the 2750 battery need to be bump charged?
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<soapbox>I just hate that the need to purchase a new battery is even there. HTC should have provided a battery that works. I'm sure at some point I may break down and buy a better one but it just makes me mad.</soapbox>
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Yeah, I kind of agree, and it sucks having to spend an extra $50 for a battery that's better but is also going to make my phone bulkier. But eh, I like the phone otherwise. I was gonna try to hold out to see if a good battery comes out that doesn't make the phone bulkier, but at best, it'd probably only be about 1700-1800 mAH, and if the stock one is 1400, and I'm down to about 40% after 6-7 hours use, I can't imagine 1700-1800 helping THAT much. 2750 should at least let me go 2-3 days between charges (if not more).
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Yeah, I kind of agree, and it sucks having to spend an extra $50 for a battery that's better but is also going to make my phone bulkier. But eh, I like the phone otherwise. I was gonna try to hold out to see if a good battery comes out that doesn't make the phone bulkier, but at best, it'd probably only be about 1700-1800 mAH, and if the stock one is 1400, and I'm down to about 40% after 6-7 hours use, I can't imagine 1700-1800 helping THAT much. 2750 should at least let me go 2-3 days between charges (if not more).
The 2750 gets me a FULL day of FULL unadulterated-use-it-as-it-is-meant-to-be-used use. I could see it lasting 2 to 3 days if used in a conservative fashion.
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I am still on the fence with buying one but I do love the phone even with this minor annoyance.
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Default Automated bump Charging

I used a timer (available at home depot, Lowes, orchards supply, etc for 6 dollars) to bump charge my DINC ad TB. I notice quite a difference on the DINC and a little less so on the TB. The timer charges for 4 hours, turns off for 15 minutes and back on for 45 minutes. This cycle is repeated 4 times (off for 15, on for 45, etc). When I wake up, it has been bump charge cycled 4 times. It can be done with the phone on or off. I notice no difference.

I also have lots of lithium polymer batteries for my RC helicopters and those chargers are sophisticated enough to do the bump charge automatically by reducing current (amperage) while maintaining Voltage at 4.20V until the battery is 100% charged. It takes almost twice as long as the initial charge to fully charge the batteries. In other words, the last 15% takes almost as long as the first 85%.

Our phones don't employ the sophisticated algorithoms and simply stop charging as soon as the battery gets to 4.20V. In my RC experience, the batteries are only 80-85% charged when it hits 4.20V which is why bump charging is necessary if you want to "fully" charge your battery.

The $6 timer is a no brainer for those that want to bump charge with zero effort.
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OMG! DOES BUMP CHARGING EVER WORK! What a difference for me! Went all day to 4AM still had 50% battery. 4G and all. Very little power management going on maybe brightness at 75%. I don't care, I'll buy a new battery every 6 months if I have to. For me its worth it. Easily. Cant wait until the 1800's come out for regular size battery. I refuse to add a bulky extended battery. Not even a consideration.
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I bump it every night. Though I'm starting to realized that it would take up to 4-6 times of un/plug before the the battery light would be green right away.
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I used a timer (available at home depot, Lowes, orchards supply, etc for 6 dollars) to bump charge my DINC ad TB. I notice quite a difference on the DINC and a little less so on the TB. The timer charges for 4 hours, turns off for 15 minutes and back on for 45 minutes. This cycle is repeated 4 times (off for 15, on for 45, etc). When I wake up, it has been bump charge cycled 4 times. It can be done with the phone on or off. I notice no difference.

I also have lots of lithium polymer batteries for my RC helicopters and those chargers are sophisticated enough to do the bump charge automatically by reducing current (amperage) while maintaining Voltage at 4.20V until the battery is 100% charged. It takes almost twice as long as the initial charge to fully charge the batteries. In other words, the last 15% takes almost as long as the first 85%.

Our phones don't employ the sophisticated algorithoms and simply stop charging as soon as the battery gets to 4.20V. In my RC experience, the batteries are only 80-85% charged when it hits 4.20V which is why bump charging is necessary if you want to "fully" charge your battery.

The $6 timer is a no brainer for those that want to bump charge with zero effort.
What's the brand name for your battery charger? I'm interested in going this route.
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Lately I've been pretty lazy with bump charging since I barely have enough time to get one bump in the mornings. My battery can drop to 80% in an hour of barely any use. Will wiping the battery stats help at all and is there anyway to do this without root?
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I bumped my Dinc everyday for about a year, and didn't notice any "damage" to the battery. FWIW.
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Default Bump. It really work!!

If I don't bump charge I may get 6-7 hours of light to moderate use. If I bump I am getting over 20 hours. I know, hard to believe. I hope HTC and Verizon find a way to allow the battery to fully charge with one step. It is a pain in the @ss. Bumped last night took of charger at 6am its 7:45pm and I'm at 77% with light use so far today, screen on time 1hr 14min. I did have LTE off most of the day except when I needed it.
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I agree we shouldn't have to buy extra batteries to get a day of usage but it is what it is. I ended up liking the extra pack on the back because it helps with my grip. Of course it feels like you have a cinderblock in your pocket though.
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I've only bump charged my TB the few times I've connected it via USB to my MacBook Pro, other than that I let it charge throughout the night. I'm not a super heavy user, I check my emails, play a games now and then, maybe look up something on the internet or check out FB... also making calls and/ or texts to my wife and my battery has consistently lasted all day. (I bought my TB last Friday) I take it off charge around 6:00 or 6:30 in the morning and by 8:30 - 9:30 at night it's usually around 20-25%. (This is with 4G on) So far I'm extremely pleased with the overall performance of this phone.
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