Forcing Apps to install to the SD Card without root - Page 2

android hogg · January 20th, 2012, 04:05 PM

It is in the public folder, anyway this is exactly how it looks like:

c:\sdk-tools>adb devices
List of devices attached
HTxxxxxxxxx device

c:\sdk-tools>adb shell
$ pm setInstallLocation 2
pm setInstallLocation 2
$ exit
exit

btw, I'm running windows 7 64-bit

El Presidente · January 20th, 2012, 04:07 PM

It's worked then (unless it gave an error).

There are some things that can't be moved to the SD Card but any apps you've installed since running the command should be on the SD Card.

android hogg · January 20th, 2012, 04:36 PM

What worries me about the process is that I had no * daemon started successfully * messages, though I'm not sure what they mean...

The only app I can move to the SD card is HTC Sync. For all the rest (eg. Adobe Reader, Market, Maps, HTC Likes, Gmail, Navi Expert, Talk , Youtube ) the "Move to SD card" option is greyed out. These applications were pre-installed, "courtesy" of T-mobile, maybe that's the reason...?

El Presidente · January 20th, 2012, 04:40 PM

Yeah, a lot of the pre installed stuff you can't move as it's installed on the system partition, anything you've downloaded yourself should be ok to move though.

MissSuper10 · January 21st, 2012, 06:08 AM

Hi, I'm having the same problem as some people above, I've installed htc sync and the mini version of the sdk onto my computer, the phone is connected in charge only mode and debugging is on. But it doesn't seem to be recognising my device; I get the List of Devices attached but no device written underneath. Don't know if this makes a difference but when I try and use htc sync normally it won't recognise my phone either. I also don't seem to have a htc sync app on my phone, should I?Do you know how to fix this?

gazL · January 24th, 2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djthebogan

If it is not listing your device u will have to make sure u have all the proper drivers installed so the computer recognizes it. After u install the drivers, make sure u restart your pc

How and where do i do this? is it simple because im fairly useless

veragr · January 24th, 2012, 05:48 PM

Hi!

I have the same annoying problem that apps cannot be installed in the internal memory...
I followed the steps (installed sdk manager -> installer_r16-windows.exe from this page Android SDK | Android Developers and enable the USB debugging from my htc wildfire s)

The problem is in the command prompt when I type adb devices the only feedback that I receive it "List of devices attached" What else I can do to proceed?
(I have to mention also that I installed from the SDK manager the Android sdk platform-tools and google USB Driver package)

Thanks in advance!

SmanUK · January 29th, 2012, 12:09 PM

Worked first time and very easy to do with your guide, Thank you so much

Visnja · January 29th, 2012, 06:25 PM

Hey guys, im sorry to bother you, but i am having a problem following step 3, I did everything you guys suggested in the previous posts but i cant get past this

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Visnja>cd\sdk-tools
The system cannot find the path specified

I have tried everything, i have htc sync, it works, the sdk-tools file is in my documents and settings, i dont know why it is not working.....maybe my old XP version doesnt support it, although i dont see why it wouldnt...

I am a bit slow and stupid when it comes to computers but if enyone can help me it would be great...Ty very much

El Presidente · January 30th, 2012, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visnja

Hey guys, im sorry to bother you, but i am having a problem following step 3, I did everything you guys suggested in the previous posts but i cant get past this

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Visnja>cd\sdk-tools
The system cannot find the path specified

I have tried everything, i have htc sync, it works, the sdk-tools file is in my documents and settings, i dont know why it is not working.....maybe my old XP version doesnt support it, although i dont see why it wouldnt...

I am a bit slow and stupid when it comes to computers but if enyone can help me it would be great...Ty very much

Hey Visnja, can you give me a screenshot please? Do you know how to do that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazL

How and where do i do this? is it simple because im fairly useless

There should be a link to HTC Sync in the first post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by veragr

Hi!

I have the same annoying problem that apps cannot be installed in the internal memory...
I followed the steps (installed sdk manager -> installer_r16-windows.exe from this page Android SDK | Android Developers and enable the USB debugging from my htc wildfire s)

The problem is in the command prompt when I type adb devices the only feedback that I receive it "List of devices attached" What else I can do to proceed?
(I have to mention also that I installed from the SDK manager the Android sdk platform-tools and google USB Driver package)

Thanks in advance!

Have you installed HTC Sync?

Visnja · January 30th, 2012, 05:33 AM

screenshot.jpg

I hope this helps, ty

Visnja · January 30th, 2012, 06:23 AM

Hey, i played around with it for a while and i did it, it works fine, ty so much for youre help

veragr · January 31st, 2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Presidente

Have you installed HTC Sync?

Yes I have installed HTC Sync on my laptop but it don't recognize my phone...

crashmekiran · February 4th, 2012, 04:45 AM

thanks..

tijdelijk · February 4th, 2012, 10:25 AM

Is it possible that this 'cure' cost 30MB of space?
I used to have 150MB. I completely deleted everything on my phone (a reset) and then I did what was described and now I only have 120MB of data left.

Can you also undo what you described in the first post?

[edit]
I found out that when I got the phone I used to have 150mb of data, with 122mb of data left. This is exactly what I got when I did the factory reset.
I believe to undo 'forcing apps to install to the sd card without root' is to do a factory reset again. (Or the easy way: set "pm setInstallLocation 0")

Another question: will you need an app like "move app 2 sd" or will this installation do that for you?

El Presidente · February 4th, 2012, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tijdelijk

Is it possible that this 'cure' cost 30MB of space?
I used to have 150MB. I completely deleted everything on my phone (a reset) and then I did what was described and now I only have 120MB of data left.

Can you also undo what you described in the first post?

[edit]
I found out that when I got the phone I used to have 150mb of data, with 122mb of data left. This is exactly what I got when I did the factory reset.
I believe to undo 'forcing apps to install to the sd card without root' is to do a factory reset again. (Or the easy way: set "pm setInstallLocation 0")

Another question: will you need an app like "move app 2 sd" or will this installation do that for you?

Yeah, pm setInstallLocation 0 means the app will select whatever its defalut is set too, pm setInstallLocation 1 means the app will install to the internal memory.

You don't need apps2sd with this either.

tijdelijk · February 4th, 2012, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Presidente

Yeah, pm setInstallLocation 0 means the app will select whatever its defalut is set too, pm setInstallLocation 1 means the app will install to the internal memory.

You don't need apps2sd with this either.

I did need app2sd to move the apps that weren't moved automatically. However, with resetting my phone and using this installations I think I saved about 40mb! Nice work

AnotherDroid · February 5th, 2012, 06:56 AM

I clicked the thanks button to El Presidente for this, which has all worked a treat. Only one peculiarity when I did it - which may have been picked up already...I haven't read all the messages above. That was that the command 'Exit' - which I carefully put in with an initial capital in view of the earlier strictures, produced a 'permission denied' response. Changing it to 'exit' got me out... Phew...!

ramdrew · February 6th, 2012, 01:50 PM

i did everything you told me, but i downloaded angry birds and it defaulted on the phone memory, i think angry birds is sd compatible so i moved it over without a hitch, but perhaps i misunderstood, would i be able to default install apps to the sd card, or will i have to go through the process mentioned above, download, then install to sd card.....

ThankS!!!

jimbo99 · February 7th, 2012, 10:54 AM

Thanks seems to work but have to do it manually as the above post says.
Not a big problem though

El Presidente · February 7th, 2012, 11:43 AM

After the process is done, all apps should install to SD Card by default. For a lot of apps, a certain %age of the app will need to remain on the phones internal memory.

If there are apps on there already, I think you'll need to move them over manually.

When I get time, I'll see about writing a batch file which automates the process. Not promising when though so don't hold your breath

.

veragr · February 7th, 2012, 12:24 PM

Why HTC Sync does not recognize my htc wildfire s??? What I should do?

ramdrew · February 7th, 2012, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Presidente

After the process is done, all apps should install to SD Card by default. For a lot of apps, a certain %age of the app will need to remain on the phones internal memory.

If there are apps on there already, I think you'll need to move them over manually.

When I get time, I'll see about writing a batch file which automates the process. Not promising when though so don't hold your breath

.

Thanks so much.... Does it hurt to redo the process again? Say, when the batch comes out?

El Presidente · February 8th, 2012, 02:06 AM

You can do it as many times as you like, once should be enough though.

ramdrew · February 8th, 2012, 04:55 PM

Thanks, I played around with the phone today and saw that apps were install directly to the sd card Thanks so much! I'm actually enjoying my Wildfire s now....If i get a different sd card will i need to repeat this process, maybe you already answered that in you last post....

Thanks!!!

El Presidente · February 8th, 2012, 05:25 PM

It's a phone thing, so the SD Card shouldn't matter

pablo27 · February 9th, 2012, 11:30 AM

I tried this afternoon to run this fix on my daughter's phone. I put the mini SDk into Documents, also left the original in my downloads. I installed HTC Sync onto my desktop, although this did seem to take quite a while for some reason.
Enabled debugging on the phone and connected in charge only.
However once in command prompt I could not find the SDK-Tools in documants at all. I typed various commands : cd\SDK-Tools also Documents\sdk-tools plus othes that people have tried, but without success.
When I went back to my desktop I tried running HTC Sync and it would not recognise the phone, even with debugging disabled and HTC Sync selected on the phone, could this be the reason why I cannot find SDK-Tools ?
I also plugged my Desire HD into the desktop and HTC Sync would not connect either.I eventually ran out of time before I could try re-installing HTC Sync.

El Presidente · February 9th, 2012, 05:20 PM

Hi Pablo, if you extract the SDK Tools to the root of your C Drive as opposed to another folder so it's located in C:\SDK-Tools, does that make a difference?

Also, what OS are you using?

pablo27 · February 9th, 2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Presidente

Hi Pablo, if you extract the SDK Tools to the root of your C Drive as opposed to another folder so it's located in C:\SDK-Tools, does that make a difference?

Also, what OS are you using?

Hi EP thanks for taking the time to reply

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I haven't yet tried extracting the SDK Tools to the C drive, I wasn't sure how and where to extract it to really, so just put it in My Docs. I am running Vista on my desktop.
I will re-install HTC Sync and then try connecting my Desire to see if it is ok, I then have to try and prise my daughters phone from her long enough to try the fix again, hopefully it will be sometime over the weekend.

Can I try and find the C:\SDK-Tools without having her phone connected ?

El Presidente · February 10th, 2012, 06:49 AM

No problem Pablo!

It could be HTC Sync that's the issue, I seem to recall it's problematic with Vista.

I'll have a look around, see if I can find just the drivers (not the app itself) as you only need the drivers associated for the PC to recognise the phone.

In the interim, fire on with extracting to the root of the C:\ drive and navigate to C:\SDK Tools.

pablo27 · February 10th, 2012, 07:59 AM

Okies matey, I'll give that a go .

Calomax · February 10th, 2012, 08:08 AM

Please can you tell me how to run this in Windows 7 which doesn't have "run" in the Start Menu so I don't know how to input the dos commands.

Also is it not possible to choose to install apps onto the sd card without having to do this sort of procedure? My old Symbian Nokia can do it if only there were some decent apps to install.

El Presidente · February 10th, 2012, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pablo27

Okies matey, I'll give that a go .

Let me know what happens. I might not be able to respond instantly this weekend, but I will get back to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calomax

Please can you tell me how to run this in Windows 7 which doesn't have "run" in the Start Menu so I don't know how to input the dos commands.

Is there a search box/text field in the start menu? Type cmd in there and click the icon which comes up called cmd.exe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calomax

Also is it not possible to choose to install apps onto the sd card without having to do this sort of procedure? My old Symbian Nokia can do it if only there were some decent apps to install.

You can move some stuff over, but the procedure is needed for making the SD Card the default installation directory.

Calomax · February 10th, 2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Presidente

Is there a search box/text field in the start menu? Type cmd in there and click the icon which comes up called cmd.exe.

Thank you, yes there is so I'll try that in a few weeks when I get my phone. It's my birthday present.

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Presidente

You can move some stuff over, but the procedure is needed for making the SD Card the default installation directory.

Thank you very much.

Nauman123 · February 11th, 2012, 03:24 AM

Thnx man it really worke....and can u tell me that should i root my wildfire s

rajrishi27 · February 11th, 2012, 04:18 AM

supppppeeeeeerrrrrb...@@@@@@@

chrisbob1200 · February 11th, 2012, 12:12 PM

Many thanks, it worked first time for me. I was a little concerned about the permission denied on exit, but it does not seem to be a problem. After I disconnected, a bunch of apps became available to app2SD and I moved them over. Now the upgrade can install. Hurrah.

Once again, thanks for your work and time.

annem3911 · February 12th, 2012, 08:48 AM

Hi I have tried doing this on my HTC Wildfire S and it says that it when i get to step 4 it says that ''C:/Users/floyd/Desktop/sdk-tools is not recognized as an internal or external command. operable program or batch file'' please help.

AndroidIsKing · February 12th, 2012, 05:01 PM

I've seen there is a problem when your successfully finished patching. So you disconnect your phone and try to move a app onto your SD Card. It's blacked out... So I found out you must reboot your phone. When your phone has successfully rebooted, you are allowed to move a app onto the SD Card.

Just to point out apps you DOWNLOADED can be moved only.

Kamzi4u · February 16th, 2012, 01:03 AM

It worked dat was gr8 but wired headset was nt working after rooting my phone so had to unroot it....... Ny suugestions how to get the headset back to work??

pablo27 · February 17th, 2012, 06:18 AM

Only just gotten around to trying my daughter's phone since last week. We can now find SDK-Tools ok but can't manage any further than that !
My Desire HD connects to HTC Sync fine, but when we try to connect the Wildfire, it cannot find or open Sync ?
We have tried uninstalling Sync and reinstalling, also restarting everything and really are stuck and peeed off with it all now !

El Presidente, we need your help

El Presidente · February 17th, 2012, 08:04 AM

HTC Sync doesn't actually need to be open for this to work, it just needs the drivers that go along with it.

Have you tried the process at all? Does the PC recognise the phone is plugged in?

pablo27 · February 17th, 2012, 12:12 PM

I ad sync working on my phone before my daughter arrived, turned it off before we connected her phone in charge mode only , pc can only see the phone when disc drive is enabled.

nataliep586 · February 17th, 2012, 09:21 PM

Please help me!!! im so frustrated....i downloaded everything like it said i should...but then tried putting the adb stuff and this is what i got...??????

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Natalie>cd C:\Users\Natalie\Desktop\sdk-tools
C:\Users\Natalie\Desktop\sdk-tools>adb devices
'adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
C:\Users\Natalie\Desktop\sdk-tools>

CafeKampuchia · February 19th, 2012, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nataliep586

Please help me!!! im so frustrated....i downloaded everything like it said i should...but then tried putting the adb stuff and this is what i got...??????

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Natalie>cd C:\Users\Natalie\Desktop\sdk-tools
C:\Users\Natalie\Desktop\sdk-tools>adb devices
'adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
C:\Users\Natalie\Desktop\sdk-tools>

Try installing the full Android SDK tools using the article below and running the procedure again.

Howto: Install the Android SDK - CyanogenMod Wiki

pablo27 · February 19th, 2012, 05:26 PM

Managed to sort my daughter's phone at last . I did receive two mails from HTC which were quite informative, although just went over all that EP recommended . We just connected her Wildfire up to her Notebook and ran the procedure, all worked fine , even though Sync still doesn't respond .
She's now very happy with her moby, I'm happy that she's happy , so all is good ! Thanks again for the assistance EP .

El Presidente · February 20th, 2012, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pablo27

Managed to sort my daughter's phone at last . I did receive two mails from HTC which were quite informative, although just went over all that EP recommended . We just connected her Wildfire up to her Notebook and ran the procedure, all worked fine , even though Sync still doesn't respond .
She's now very happy with her moby, I'm happy that she's happy , so all is good ! Thanks again for the assistance EP .

Sorry, had a pretty busy weekend or I would've responded earlier

I'm glad you sorted it though.

laimen · February 21st, 2012, 09:52 AM

Dzieki wielkie

tks for help

El Presidente · February 21st, 2012, 10:04 AM

Nie ma sprawy.

starrys800 · February 21st, 2012, 09:52 PM

Hi,

Thanks a ton for posting this. It worked right away and now I have a lot of free internal memory..Thanks