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Old February 21st, 2012, 10:01 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Thanks a ton for posting this. It worked right away and now I have a lot of free internal memory..Thanks
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 12:57 AM   #102 (permalink)
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After doing this, when i try to download apps from the market, some of the apps are still getting installed into the phone memory and I am unable to move them to SD card.. Any ideas??
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After doing this, when i try to download apps from the market, some of the apps are still getting installed into the phone memory and I am unable to move them to SD card.. Any ideas??
I have the same 'problem'. Some of the apps that I download are installed to the phone memory. However, then I use the app "move 2 sd" which moves the app to the sd-card, so all is well
From the 30 apps that I use, only 4 apps have to stay on my phone memory in order for them to work (market update, teslaled, colornote, traffic monitor).

Btw. Thanks again El Presidente for the clear instructions! I have done exactly what is instructed and now I have 40mb extra memory plus saving more whenever I install another app
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After doing this, when i try to download apps from the market, some of the apps are still getting installed into the phone memory and I am unable to move them to SD card.. Any ideas??
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I have the same 'problem'. Some of the apps that I download are installed to the phone memory. However, then I use the app "move 2 sd" which moves the app to the sd-card, so all is well
From the 30 apps that I use, only 4 apps have to stay on my phone memory in order for them to work (market update, teslaled, colornote, traffic monitor).

Btw. Thanks again El Presidente for the clear instructions! I have done exactly what is instructed and now I have 40mb extra memory plus saving more whenever I install another app
No problem, glad it's helped!

Some apps can't be moved, there's a piece of code a dev needs to insert which will allow installation/moving to the SD Card. Also, you can't move anything with an active widget.

There's nothing that can be done about that I'm afraid
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No problem, glad it's helped!

Some apps can't be moved, there's a piece of code a dev needs to insert which will allow installation/moving to the SD Card. Also, you can't move anything with an active widget.

There's nothing that can be done about that I'm afraid
I can already move most downloaded apps to the SD card with Settings/Applications/Manage Applications. If I read this thread right, it still won't let me move those that I can't move now.

But, if I uninstall them, then reinstall them, will they then install to the card?
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 02:02 AM   #106 (permalink)
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I don't normally get involved in online forums but while i was looking a good useful app I came across this chat, followed the instructions and it all worked well. Only had one App I could move though as most were already on the SD card.
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nice easy tutorial and works! tho there are still a few with move to sd grayed out....
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It works! Thanks a lot, I now have a lot of Internal memory to spare
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Will this allow those downloaded apps that can't currently be moved to the SD card, to install to the card please?
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This worked beautifully for my phone. Can't tell you how pleased I am. I've already loaded a boatload of apps and have 60MB of internal storage still free, so much thanks. However, I just had a little scare several hours later. Found my phone with a frozen white screen and the text "0 update" at the top. Had to remove battery and hold power button for thirty seconds, then replace battery. It's all back for the moment. Since I've modified the OS to expand the internal storage am I at risk of automatic updates from either Google or one of the android apps turning my phone into a brick? If that risk exists, which updates do I need to turn off?

UPDATE: Screen freeze was isolated occurrence. Never happened again. I think a single restart after the change was all it wanted.
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Will this allow those downloaded apps that can't currently be moved to the SD card, to install to the card please?
It's app dependant, the dev needs to insert a piece of code that allows installation/moving to the SD.

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I can already move most downloaded apps to the SD card with Settings/Applications/Manage Applications. If I read this thread right, it still won't let me move those that I can't move now.

But, if I uninstall them, then reinstall them, will they then install to the card?
It might be worth a pop, but see the answer above, it's app dependant.

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Since I've modified the OS to expand the internal storage am I at risk of automatic updates from either Google or one of the android apps turning my phone into a brick? If that risk exists, which updates do I need to turn off?
Nope you should be cool. I've done it on mine and accepted an OTA update with no problems.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 07:22 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Thank you, I really can't see any advantage in doing this except it would save the step of moving the apps after installing them
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Oh my gosh, it worked! Just realised that my norton security cannot run from SD card, luckily it told me so cos the option actually let it move to it. I'm going to see if in fact any new apps install directly to the SD card now, gosh I feel spoilt for options!!, thanks lots.
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OMG! i dont know how to thank you for this useful guide... i have freed at least 10mb of my internal memory....... * thumbs up*
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when i type adb devices command it does not show my phone in connected list..
not able to move ahead of that step..
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Have you enabled USB Debugging and made sure you're connected in charge only mode?
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Have you enabled USB Debugging and made sure you're connected in charge only mode?

Yes i have enabled the debugging mode n made sure its in charge only mode. still it doesn't recognize my device..
do i need to install ADB saperately or jst need to dwnload tht sdk-tools.zip file and extract it..
Pls hv patience with me as m cmpletly new to ths wrld!!
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Just the SDK tools zip is fine. Does HTC Sync recognised the phone at all? Can you connect in any other mode?
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Well I finally took the plunge and did this. I was surprised to find that I was then able to move some apps to the SD card that I couldn't do before. One thing that is happening now when I connect in charge only is that the box asking if I want to open the card to view files comes up, although I don't know if there is a connection. It's not a problem as I just close it and carry on.
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Please Help.......I saw this when I type adb shell
C:\sdk-tools>adb shell
adb server is out of date. killing...
* daemon started successfully *
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C:\sdk-tools>pm setInstallLocation 2
'pm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
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When you type adb devices, does it list your phones serial number Sokong?
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Hello..Just saw this and new here to the forum. I followed the instructions step by step and in the end I was still unable to force some of the pre-loaded apps to my sd card. I have an Wildfire S Virgin Mobile, HTC A510c, android vers 2.3.4.
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Hello, my name is shaher, i tried typing in "cd\SDK-Tools" the name is my extracted file name, and when i press enter, it says the system cannot find the path specified, what do i do? and ive made sure my phone is connected in charge mode and debugging is on??
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Hello..Just saw this and new here to the forum. I followed the instructions step by step and in the end I was still unable to force some of the pre-loaded apps to my sd card. I have an Wildfire S Virgin Mobile, HTC A510c, android vers 2.3.4.
Yep, there are some apps that can't be moved unfortunately.

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Hello, my name is shaher, i tried typing in "cd\SDK-Tools" the name is my extracted file name, and when i press enter, it says the system cannot find the path specified, what do i do? and ive made sure my phone is connected in charge mode and debugging is on??
Just double check in Windows that's where you've extracted to. If you see an SDK-Tools folder, make sure there isn't another one inside it.
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When you type adb devices, does it list your phones serial number Sokong?
Yes of course I see the serial!!! but when i type pm setInstallLocation 2 it show like this:
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Finally I got it. Thanks
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Followed all the steps ,didn't get any errors , screenshots provided look exactly what was taking place... Still it didnt work for me
Tested with angry birds but it still goes to phone memory by itself.
One thing I did do was turn off usb debugging after I had disconnected my phone.. did it not work because of this? Will I always have to keep usb debugging on?
I am on 2.3.5 on a510e. Thanks.
EDIT: carried out he procedure once again this time leaving it in debug mode still no luck... at least with angry birds.. will try out other apps n post.
Doesn't work with Adobe reader as well so its safe to assume it just doesn't work on my device for some reason.. damn

UPDATE: it has started working like a charm, disabled usb debugging n still works. ! Many thanks for this useful tutorial .
One chore less as well as interestingly enabled moving to SD for HTC apps like quickoffice n battery widget that have been installed through HTC hub. The apps I installed which had move to SD disabled like utorrent remote n orange theme for dolphin were able to be moved .. thanks once again.
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What are the limitations possible when using a Mac? Are there Mac Apps that can help? Or do you really have to use a PC for rooting? (My primary goal is to force apps from auto-booting and to remove some built-in waste-of-space apps). Other goals maybe in the future.
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What are the limitations possible when using a Mac? Are there Mac Apps that can help? Or do you really have to use a PC for rooting? (My primary goal is to force apps from auto-booting and to remove some built-in waste-of-space apps). Other goals maybe in the future.
this thread isn't actually rooting the phone... it only makes the apps to install on the sd card by default (doesn't work for some which have to be manually moved) and enables moving some apps which didn't have the moving ability before, which u hav installed, NOT the built in apps.
u shud post in the rooting section of the forum to have members take notice and possibly help.
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The cmd prompt isn't working for me at all...I entered it just as you said to do, and my phone is set to debugging..but it just isn't working...i'm not frustrated...just wondering why it isn't working for me...????
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Dont work for me can anyone help me
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Could you both be a little more specific please? What's happening exactly?
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When ever I do it I type in adb devices and it says "adb is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." Please help me! I can seem to get it right
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It's worked then (unless it gave an error).

There are some things that can't be moved to the SD Card but any apps you've installed since running the command should be on the SD Card.
When I install an app it says its on the card but it still takes up a lot of space on my internal memory. Why is this happening?
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When I install an app it says its on the card but it still takes up a lot of space on my internal memory. Why is this happening?
Some apps still put a portion of themselves on internal memory, that's unavoidable unfortunately.
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This is what happens when I try, It doesnt change anything on my phone just spits out all that info. Any help would be great!

C:\rootevo3dnew>adb shell
# pm setinstalllocation 2
pm setinstalllocation 2
Error: unknown command 'setinstalllocation'
usage: pm[list|path|install|uninstall]
pm list packages [-f] [-d] [-e] [-u] [FILTER]
pm list permission-groups
pm list permissions [-g] [-f] [-d] [-u] [GROUP]
pm list instrumentation [-f] [TARGET-PACKAGE]
pm list features
pm list libraries
pm path PACKAGE
pm install [-l] [-r] [-t] [-i INSTALLER_PACKAGE_NAME] [-s] [-f] PATH
pm uninstall [-k] PACKAGE
pm clear PACKAGE
pm enable PACKAGE_OR_COMPONENT
pm disable PACKAGE_OR_COMPONENT
pm setInstallLocation [0/auto] [1/internal] [2/external]

The list packages command prints all packages, optionally only
those whose package name contains the text in FILTER. Options:
-f: see their associated file.
-d: filter to include disbled packages.
-e: filter to include enabled packages.
-u: also include uninstalled packages.

The list permission-groups command prints all known
permission groups.

The list permissions command prints all known
permissions, optionally only those in GROUP. Options:
-g: organize by group.
-f: print all information.
-s: short summary.
-d: only list dangerous permissions.
-u: list only the permissions users will see.

The list instrumentation command prints all instrumentations,
or only those that target a specified package. Options:
-f: see their associated file.

The list features command prints all features of the system.

The path command prints the path to the .apk of a package.

The install command installs a package to the system. Options:
-l: install the package with FORWARD_LOCK.
-r: reinstall an exisiting app, keeping its data.
-t: allow test .apks to be installed.
-i: specify the installer package name.
-s: install package on sdcard.
-f: install package on internal flash.

The uninstall command removes a package from the system. Options:
-k: keep the data and cache directories around.
after the package removal.

The clear command deletes all data associated with a package.

The enable and disable commands change the enabled state of
a given package or component (written as "package/class").

The getInstallLocation command gets the current install location
0 [auto]: Let system decide the best location
1 [internal]: Install on internal device storage
2 [external]: Install on external media

The setInstallLocation command changes the default install location
0 [auto]: Let system decide the best location
1 [internal]: Install on internal device storage
2 [external]: Install on external media
exit
exit
exit
exit

I also tried to get the install location using the command at the bottom, it said it could not be found.
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tyler3137, the command is case sensitive, if its a copy pasted section that u posted; then the command to be given is pm setInstallLocation 2, with a capital I and L.
It should've been a $ sign after entering adb shell though..where u give the pm command.
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Thanks a lot for the post buddy. I will give it a try.
It would be helpful if you post any screen shots too as i'm a beginner when it comes to android and stuff

please help. i really cant get through. im having this error

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\khang>cd\sdk-tools

C:\sdk-tools>adb devices
'adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\sdk-tools>adb devices
'adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\sdk-tools>


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please help. it shows adb is not recognized as an internal or external command...ive turned on debugging and im at charge mode, still i get this error...
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Hi Carolynne, can you check within Windows if there are any other folders within SDK-Tools?
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Thanks so much for this, worked perfectly.

A bit off topic, but about only being able to move downloaded apps over...
I've moved everything I can and still only have 26ishmb left. (out of 124) Aren't the preinstalled apps meant to be on a separate partition? Or are they hogging my internal space. I don't have any photos/music on the internal, I only have 100ish contacts, only have 50txts, no multimedia ones... What am I missing? I can't get any new apps and can't apply updates cos of this measly 20mb storage.

I know I can fix this further by rooting, but I'm worried about screwing up the phone/voiding warantee as I'm only novice at technical things like this.
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i hope i checked it right @el presidente, i clicked on local disk c>sdk-tools>sdk-tools>(and then there's a lot in it like adb.exe, adb-mac, fastboot-linux, fastboot-windows.exe and 5 more) thats what i see here on my end. what should i do next?
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That's cool cheers Carolynne. Open the command prompt and type cd\sdk-tools\sdk-tools then press enter. You should then be able to start with the adb stuff.
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Thanks so much for this, worked perfectly.

A bit off topic, but about only being able to move downloaded apps over...
I've moved everything I can and still only have 26ishmb left. (out of 124) Aren't the preinstalled apps meant to be on a separate partition? Or are they hogging my internal space. I don't have any photos/music on the internal, I only have 100ish contacts, only have 50txts, no multimedia ones... What am I missing? I can't get any new apps and can't apply updates cos of this measly 20mb storage.

I know I can fix this further by rooting, but I'm worried about screwing up the phone/voiding warantee as I'm only novice at technical things like this.
Check under all applications whether contacts storage and internet (the default browser) are using too much space... in my case the contacts had all my facebook friends profiles downloaded consuming around 10MB of space..i stopped syncing them, just the actual contacts that mean something to me and the number has dropped to 3mb,
furthermore i use dolphin browser but still the 'internet' app had around 5MB consumed which i again retrieved. you can also run the low storage wizard to clear up all caches.
one more thing have you updated to the latest 2.3.5? asking this because i must've gained around 30MB just after updating.
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one of the biggest complaints levelled at the htc wildfire s is the severe lack of internal memory. There are ways around this, one of which is forcing downloaded apps to install to the sd card. There are a couple of pre-requisites, but the process itself is relatively straight forward.

you'll need htc sync installed (or at least the drivers that come with htc sync) and adb (android debug bridge) or the android sdk. The sdk itself is a >100mb download and can be relatively difficult to install, however if you head here, look under the section entitled mini sdk, click show, you can download a zip file called sdk-tools.zip. Once downloaded, extract the contents of that folder to a folder of your choosing. I recommend somewhere easy, like c:\sdk-tools as you'll need to navigate to it via a command prompt later.

You'll also need to enable usb debugging on your phone, that's easily enough done by heading to settings -> applications -> development -> usb debugging. You'll get a warning message, but just ok that you'll be fine.

Once you've done all the above, the process is as follows:

1. Connect the phone to the pc in charge only mode
2. Open a command prompt (start -> run -> cmd, you'll need to run as administrator)
3. Navigate to the folder you extracted adb to. In my case, the command would be "cd\sdk-tools" (minus the quotes).
4. Type adb devices and press enter. You should then see the serial number of your phone displayed on screen. If you don't check, that usb debugging is enabled and you're connected in charge only mode.
5. Type adb shell, press enter.
6. Type pm setinstalllocation 2 press enter (it's important you enter this exactly as written as it's case sensitive)
7. Type exit, then disconnect your phone.
8. Profit!

you can now move apps that are already on the handset to the sd card. Head to settings -> applications -> manage applications -> all -> click an app -> move to sd card. All new apps will install to the sd card.

It's worth mentioning that apps with active widgets cannot be moved and a certain portion app will remain on the phones data partition, but this goes a long way to assist with the lack of internal memory!

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right on!!!!!! Worked like a charm
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Check under all applications whether contacts storage and internet (the default browser) are using too much space... in my case the contacts had all my facebook friends profiles downloaded consuming around 10MB of space..i stopped syncing them, just the actual contacts that mean something to me and the number has dropped to 3mb,
furthermore i use dolphin browser but still the 'internet' app had around 5MB consumed which i again retrieved. you can also run the low storage wizard to clear up all caches.
one more thing have you updated to the latest 2.3.5? asking this because i must've gained around 30MB just after updating.
I might try updating, if I can even manage to get enough space to do so. Think I read 20mb is needed? Somehow I've gone down to 15mb without downloading any new apps
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I might try updating, if I can even manage to get enough space to do so. Think I read 20mb is needed? Somehow I've gone down to 15mb without downloading any new apps
Yes i noticed the same decreasing memory when on the older version... now i am not seeing this behavior. I believe updating is worth it.. just clear off one or two apps and uninstall the updates to some apps like maps and facebook and you'll be good to go.
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Hi - nervous newbie here!!!

I'm trying to free up some memory on the phone - my sd card is almost empty. I've transferred all the apps that I can to the sd card - will photos/videos/text messages etc be using up memory - if so, can I transfer them to the sd card??

I've tried the next step on here, by downloading HTC Sync, but the problem I am getting now is that its not seeing the phone. I've got it plugged in to the pc (not that much of a newbie!!!) but HTC Sync cannot see the phone. I get the ding ding noise to say that the pc has seen there is new hardware - but although I have a new F: drive appear, when I click on it, it says to insert a disc. The phone is switched on and both ends of the usb cable are plugged in - so now I'm stumped!!

I've been on the HTC Sync website and clicked on the General problems button, but now all the options are in Korean or some such language!!!

Apart from throwing the phone away, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong???

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Hi - nervous newbie here!!!

I'm trying to free up some memory on the phone - my sd card is almost empty. I've transferred all the apps that I can to the sd card - will photos/videos/text messages etc be using up memory - if so, can I transfer them to the sd card??

I've tried the next step on here, by downloading HTC Sync, but the problem I am getting now is that its not seeing the phone. I've got it plugged in to the pc (not that much of a newbie!!!) but HTC Sync cannot see the phone. I get the ding ding noise to say that the pc has seen there is new hardware - but although I have a new F: drive appear, when I click on it, it says to insert a disc. The phone is switched on and both ends of the usb cable are plugged in - so now I'm stumped!!

I've been on the HTC Sync website and clicked on the General problems button, but now all the options are in Korean or some such language!!!

Apart from throwing the phone away, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong???

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Sorry Beryl, tottally missed this question . Are you still having issues?
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