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thank you!.....i can deal with that. i was literally going to throw this phone against the wall and chalk it up as a loss, but i found your post last night and it freed up about 35mb from the internal and on this device thats alot. i want to root it but i fear that i will brick the phone and render it useless, and plus i am new to android devices. i've owned iphones since the first one.

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There will most likely always be a certain percentage retained on the internal memory. How much depends on the app, there's no standard unfortunately.
thank you!.....i can deal with that. i was literally going to throw this phone against the wall and chalk it up as a loss, but i found your post last night and it freed up about 35mb from the internal and on this device thats alot. i want to root it but i fear that i will brick the phone and render it useless, and plus i am new to android devices. i've owned iphones since the first one.
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thank you!.....i can deal with that. i was literally going to throw this phone against the wall and chalk it up as a loss, but i found your post last night and it freed up about 35mb from the internal and on this device thats alot. i want to root it but i fear that i will brick the phone and render it useless, and plus i am new to android devices. i've owned iphones since the first one.
Same with me was soo fustrated had to install/uninstall apps as required
finally some free space
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Thank you very much El Presidente. I do have just a couple questions for you. If you update your device will it lose this ability and my other question is once you have completed the procedure how do you make apps install to the sd card or does it automatically do it. I also wanted to let you know that when I tried it the first time I copy and pasted all of your commands and when I got to the end I copy and pasted Exit as you have it and it denied me permission so I tried it once again and typed in exit without the capital E and it worked perfectly. Thank you once again and I will be looking foward to your response.
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Thank you very much El Presidente. I do have just a couple questions for you. If you update your device will it lose this ability and my other question is once you have completed the procedure how do you make apps install to the sd card or does it automatically do it. I also wanted to let you know that when I tried it the first time I copy and pasted all of your commands and when I got to the end I copy and pasted Exit as you have it and it denied me permission so I tried it once again and typed in exit without the capital E and it worked perfectly. Thank you once again and I will be looking foward to your response.
Thanks, I'm not sure if you'd have to do it again unfortunately, I'd have to test. There would be no harm in doing it again then though, post update. They should automatically move too, no need for you to do anything.

Also, yeah, I'll need to amend the Exit to exit, as it's a linux shell, it's case sensitive.
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Thanks, I'm not sure if you'd have to do it again unfortunately, I'd have to test. There would be no harm in doing it again then though, post update. They should automatically move too, no need for you to do anything.

Also, yeah, I'll need to amend the Exit to exit, as it's a linux shell, it's case sensitive.

Yes that is why I told you about the Exit as it denied me permission when I copy and pasted it but I did the process again and typed in the word exit without the capital and it worked perfectly. You also did not answer my question about updating my phone. If I update my phone will I have to do this process again or will it stay the way it currently is installing apps on the sd card? Thanks again for your hard work.
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One of the biggest complaints levelled at the HTC Wildfire S is the severe lack of internal memory. There are ways around this, one of which is forcing downloaded apps to install to the SD Card. There are a couple of pre-requisites, but the process itself is relatively straight forward.

You'll need HTC Sync installed (or at least the drivers that come with HTC Sync) and ADB (Android Debug Bridge) or the Android SDK. The SDK itself is a >100MB download and can be relatively difficult to install, however if you head here, look under the section entitled Mini SDK, click show, you can download a zip file called SDK-Tools.zip. Once downloaded, extract the contents of that folder to a folder of your choosing. I recommend somewhere easy, like C:\SDK-Tools as you'll need to navigate to it via a command prompt later.

You'll also need to enable USB Debugging on your phone, that's easily enough done by heading to Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB Debugging. You'll get a warning message, but just ok that you'll be fine.

Once you've done all the above, the process is as follows:

1. Connect the Phone to the PC in Charge Only mode
2. Open a command prompt (Start -> Run -> CMD, you'll need to run as Administrator)
3. Navigate to the folder you extracted ADB to. In my case, the command would be "cd\SDK-Tools" (minus the quotes).
4. Type adb devices and press enter. You should then see the serial number of your phone displayed on screen. If you don't check, that USB Debugging is enabled and you're connected in Charge Only Mode.
5. Type adb shell, press enter.
6. Type pm setInstallLocation 2 press enter (it's important you enter this exactly as written as it's case sensitive)
7. Type exit, then disconnect your phone.
8. PROFIT!

You can now move apps that are already on the handset to the SD Card. Head to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> All -> Click an app -> Move to SD Card. All new apps will install to the SD Card.

It's worth mentioning that apps with active widgets cannot be moved and a certain portion app will remain on the phones data partition, but this goes a long way to assist with the lack of internal memory!

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i just have one question. after doing this procedure, do i leave "usb debugging" enabled and "fastboot" disabled?
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i just have one question. after doing this procedure, do i leave "usb debugging" enabled and "fastboot" disabled?
You don't have too, but I do. Fastboot on means the phone is never really off, it just sits in a deep hibernation. It's only really beneficial to give you speedy boot times. I have fastboot off on all my handsets.

USB Debugging allows a PC better access to stuff over USB when connected. Not essential, but not a bad thing either. I have it enabled on all my handsets and a lot of custom ROMs have it enabled by default.
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You don't have too, but I do. Fastboot on means the phone is never really off, it just sits in a deep hibernation. It's only really beneficial to give you speedy boot times. I have fastboot off on all my handsets.

USB Debugging allows a PC better access to stuff over USB when connected. Not essential, but not a bad thing either. I have it enabled on all my handsets and a lot of custom ROMs have it enabled by default.
I left usb debugging on with my htc wildfire s and it caused me some major issues. When I would answer a call sometimes the call would drop instantly and the other major issue was I could barely understand people and vice verse. When I disabled debugging all of those issues stopped immediately and besides it is so easy to go into the settings and turn it back on whenever you connect it to a pc. I just wanted to post this so other members would be aware that it can cause issues.
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I left usb debugging on with my htc wildfire s and it caused me some major issues. When I would answer a call sometimes the call would drop instantly and the other major issue was I could barely understand people and vice verse. When I disabled debugging all of those issues stopped immediately and besides it is so easy to go into the settings and turn it back on whenever you connect it to a pc. I just wanted to post this so other members would be aware that it can cause issues.
thanks for the info. that was happening to me last night and this morning. i just turned usb debuggin off and no dropped calls as of yet.
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Very strange, USB Debugging is normally a good thing.
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I can't get it to work an dmy phones memory is very low with only two apps
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reading the rooting guide, it says i have to undone any tricks for forcing apps to the SD card before i try and root.

How do I undo the above process - do i just set the install location to 1?

Thanks from a total beginner that is currently lost in techno speak......
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reading the rooting guide, it says i have to undone any tricks for forcing apps to the SD card before i try and root.

How do I undo the above process - do i just set the install location to 1?

Thanks from a total beginner that is currently lost in techno speak......
Just replace the '2' in "pm setInstallLocation 2" to 0 and you're done (for automatic selection of memory).
However i do not see any instruction to undo this setting before rooting, i changed this to a 1 for installing apps to internal memory to enable automatic linking of most apps by link2sd; this was after rooting.
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may i know what are those two apps called? how much of your internal memory is left?
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done it exactlly as it was said too , it done everything in the screenshots except for the daemon started stuff .
showed me my phones serial .

but i dont seem to be able to move anything too sd card .
only got 22 mb of space on internal memory .

it is a vodaphone branded phone running 2.3.5

i am guessing i wont be able to move the vodaphone stuff over but surely i can move facebook which is 20 + mb on its own .

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Have you tried again?

I've seen mixed reports of moving Facebook, I didn't think you could move it as it was a system app, but I'm sure if you have a scan through this thread, some folk have managed it iirc.
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its work for desier htc desier? or exist this tutorial on desier ?
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It should work on the Desire no problem.
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Hello there! I'm truly glad you're still answering to this thread!!

I've encountered a problem, I'm terribly newbie with cellphones issue.

I've followed step by step your instructions, but it doesn't let me move any app to the SD card, even no widgets ones.

I do'nt know why, but seems like in the CMD part, some daemon thing is missing (can't post any images)

c:\windows\system32\>cd..

c:\windows\> cd..

c:\> D:

d:\> cd sdktools

d:\SDKTools\> adb devices
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sdsdefsfsdf device

d:\SDKTools\> adb shell
$ pm set InstallLocation 2
pm set InstallLocation 2
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exit

d:\SDKTools\> exit

Then goes back to Windows, but nothing happens.

I'm using Android 2.3.3, I read all the thread above mine, so I tried to reinstall HTC Sync, I used USB debugging on, tried lower case, and the sentece as you wrote it, and it's not working.

I'm begging for your help, and if you need further details, please let me know.

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Hey yosoyines, what happens when you install an app? Where does it go?

Have you rebooted the phone?
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Hey yosoyines, what happens when you install an app? Where does it go?

Have you rebooted the phone?
Rebooting now...

Apps go to the internal memory.

UPDATE: Nope, still nothing
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What apps are you attempting to install?
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What apps are you attempting to install?
I'm trying to install: WhatsApp, Viber

I'm trying to move: Facebook, Bolsa (that's spanish for market or sotck market, seems like an HTC app), Flickr, Peep, StreetView
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Whatsapp goes directly to my SD Card, flickr won't install or move, Viber won't install directly, but will move if I do it manually (it leaves 3.6MB on the phone though).
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Whatsapp goes directly to my SD Card, flickr won't install or move, Viber won't install directly, but will move if I do it manually (it leaves 3.6MB on the phone though).
Ok, found out what's the problem.

I had 2 mb free on phone, so neither WhatsApp nor Viber wouldn't let me install them. So I released internal memory until I've got 12 mb free, so installed whatsapp and allowed me, and same with viber.

Can it be that this thing first moves it to phone and then to sd card, instead of installing it directly?

Now, as you said, I have 8mb free (the 3,60 from viber took it's toll).

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Hello Mr. El Presidente,

I have found your thread about HTC Wildfire S very useful with S-ON on phone.
Few things i have noticed, that few applications do install on sd card but also in internal memory, so i often run out of space (looking forward for a solution to this)
& 1 important application i am looking forward to install is Citibank India, which doesnt install even if i have 12mb of internal mem space.

Looking forward for a solution to this.

And 1 question: if i format/RESET/ my phone will the setting to force app to sd be lost?

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I downloaded the adb thing, it wasn't working so tried to uninstall it and re-install, whilst uninstalling though it deleted just about everything off my laptop. Not happy and it still didn't sort my phone out!
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Hello,

New to the forum, thanks to all for providing a site to discuss (and tweak) the Wildfire S phone. I performed all steps as described in the thread, and it seems to have worked, but when I go into Manage Applications, and try to move something (like HTC Likes, for example), the move to SD card button is grayed out. What apps have others been able to move to the SD card? Or will apps installed after this tweak be installed the SD card?


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I'm having the same issue - the "move to SD card is grayed out". I'm assuming I would be able to transfer programs to the SD card and I can't.

Any advice? Thanks in advance.
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I downloaded the adb thing, it wasn't working so tried to uninstall it and re-install, whilst uninstalling though it deleted just about everything off my laptop. Not happy and it still didn't sort my phone out!
To uninstall, all you need to do is delete the Sdk Tools folder? Did you download the full SDK or the Mini one?

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I'm having the same issue - the "move to SD card is grayed out". I'm assuming I would be able to transfer programs to the SD card and I can't.

Any advice? Thanks in advance.
What apps are you trying to move? System apps (facebook, gmail etc) can't be transferred
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To uninstall, all you need to do is delete the Sdk Tools folder? Did you download the full SDK or the Mini one?



What apps are you trying to move? System apps (facebook, gmail etc) can't be transferred

What would be helpful to know is what should I expect to be able to do now that I followed the steps (i.e., loaded the SDK Tools and HTC Sync - great directions, BTW!). I assumed that I could load non-system apps such as Instagram and JuiceDefender onto the SD card without making the changes. Most of the Move to SD Card buttons are greyed out, except for the ones above. A quick overview of the benefits and what I should expect to see after making these changes will be appreciated.

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I have the old ADR6225. Not the Wildfire S. I downloaded the Mini SDK-Tools from the link provided on page 1. Did NOT install anything in it but followed the directions in the 1st post on page 1 and it worked perfectly. I already had HTC Sync installed (installed when I first got my phone 2 years ago and decided I didn't really need it at the time). I have been having to "swap out" apps when I wanted to try another app for quite a while now. The only "Move to SD Card" buttons that have been greyed out are the System Apps. I have moved several so far and this has brought my phone back to life. Thank You!!!
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Worked like a charm! Awesome! Many thanks to you!
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Thanks El Presidente,it works perfect for me..i used the mini-sdk,installed the HTC-sync prog and followed your directions.
Ohw and for the people who are getting the message:' adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file...unzip the mini-sdk to your desktop,dubbelclick it and move/copy the folder sdk-tools to your c-disk...then the instructions work perfect(otherwise you got a std-tools directory inside another std-tools directory).
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Thank you el presidente. I am new to this forum and yr easy to follow advice has really helped me. Worked on 2nd attempt after reading some of the other posts. Brilliant!
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Excellent, glad out worked for you
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Hi! I'm stuck on your no2 option for getting my phone more memory. It says open command prompt...how do i do this? Really not sure. Have tried to open SDK as administrator but loadsa info just rolls round in the wee black box then goes off? Really confuuused!!
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I need help. The low storage is bugging me alot!
I installed HTC Sync, changed it to USB Debugging and made it Charge Only.
When I enter ADB Devices, it doesnt show my device.
Then when I enter ADB Shell, it has an error saying that they cant find my device
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Hi! I'm stuck on your no2 option for getting my phone more memory. It says open command prompt...how do i do this? Really not sure. Have tried to open SDK as administrator but loadsa info just rolls round in the wee black box then goes off? Really confuuused!!
Start -> Run -> Type CMD, then press enter.

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I installed HTC Sync, changed it to USB Debugging and made it Charge Only.
When I enter ADB Devices, it doesnt show my device.
Then when I enter ADB Shell, it has an error saying that they cant find my device
Have you tried another port/cable?
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Start -> Run -> Type CMD, then press enter.



Have you tried another port/cable?
I actually haven't tried that yet.
I'll tell you how it turns out.
Hopefully it'll work.
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Thank you El Presidente for this wonderful fix and the terrific explanation on "how to". Just got my Wildfire S last night in an effort to hold onto my grandfathered plan. Have been studying this thread in preparation. Sat down tonight, followed your directions and it works - perfectly - first time around.

While I wish there was a work-around (short of rooting) for the pre-installed bloatware - for now I can deal.

Thank you again for the detailed instructions - I'm thrilled to get it first time through!
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Notsure Help with adb devices step

I tried out 4 different USB ports.
Nothing worked.

Tried another USB-Micro USB cable from an HTC Incredible S.
Nothing worked.

Still stuck on the adb devices part.
Any clue why they can't find my device?
I really want to free up my memory.

Help is really greatly appreciated!
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I tried out 4 different USB ports.
Nothing worked.

Tried another USB-Micro USB cable from an HTC Incredible S.
Nothing worked.

Still stuck on the adb devices part.
Any clue why they can't find my device?
I really want to free up my memory.

Help is really greatly appreciated!
Kinda stumped, does the PC recognise the phone when it's plugged in at all? Even in disk drive/USB Storage mode?

Have you tried re installing HTC Sync?
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OK - I don't remember reading this within the thread - so maybe someone can enlighten me?

I did this fix the other night and it worked beautifully. Last night I went to download an app and got the message I didn't have enough memory. When I went into the phone to look - all the apps that downloaded to my SD card the night I did this fix "suddenly" were on my phone!

I manually moved them to the card and got back "almost" all the memory I had before this happened.

The phone did update I believe. Does that then undo the fix and I have to redo it? Or is it just quirky and there is no explanation for how/why this happened?

Thanks ahead of time to anyone who can give me any insight.
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Kinda stumped, does the PC recognise the phone when it's plugged in at all? Even in disk drive/USB Storage mode?

Have you tried re installing HTC Sync?
My PC does recognize the phone during disk drive mode.
However, my PC does not recognize the phone during Charge Mode w/ USB Debugging. It does make a sound to tell me that I plugged in a device.

Reinstalled HTC Sync too.
Still can't detect it
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OK - I don't remember reading this within the thread - so maybe someone can enlighten me?

I did this fix the other night and it worked beautifully. Last night I went to download an app and got the message I didn't have enough memory. When I went into the phone to look - all the apps that downloaded to my SD card the night I did this fix "suddenly" were on my phone!

I manually moved them to the card and got back "almost" all the memory I had before this happened.

The phone did update I believe. Does that then undo the fix and I have to redo it? Or is it just quirky and there is no explanation for how/why this happened?

Thanks ahead of time to anyone who can give me any insight.
That sort of answers a question I've been asked before but haven't known the answer to. It does look as though a system update undoes this process and you'd have to do it again.

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However, my PC does not recognize the phone during Charge Mode w/ USB Debugging. It does make a sound to tell me that I plugged in a device.

Reinstalled HTC Sync too.
Still can't detect it
Hmm, do you have the full SDK installed, or just the Mini SDK downloaded via here?
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That sort of answers a question I've been asked before but haven't known the answer to. It does look as though a system update undoes this process and you'd have to do it again.
Thanks a lot. Was kind of figuring that. Oh well, back to redo the fix when I get home.

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That sort of answers a question I've been asked before but haven't known the answer to. It does look as though a system update undoes this process and you'd have to do it again.



Hmm, do you have the full SDK installed, or just the Mini SDK downloaded via here?
I used the Mini SDK from here.
But later, I downloaded the Android SDK Tools, still no luck.
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I have a Wildfire S and I've had the problem with too little memory for AGES! I finally tried to solve the problem using this trick - and it works. Kinda. But not completely. I now have it so that I can move certain apps to the SD card and it seems that others are already there. But I still only have about 7 mb of internal memory free, and when I try to download an app that's 8.5 mb (I have over 1 GB free on the SD card), it tells me that I don't have enough memory. What do do? I'm getting pretty desperate here!
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hello,
i have follow all steps, but when i type 'adb devices' it says 'adb is not recognized as an internal or external command'. please help me.
thanks.
ive done everything mentioned and am still getting this message as if the phone is not being recognised.

what am i doing wrong?
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