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Old April 3rd, 2011, 11:27 AM   #601 (permalink)
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cannot wait for metro pcs to release this!

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Hi Guys my first post I been on Icarus 1.1 for awhile now and very happy with it I don't think the 2.2 update will be release anytime soon and I'm not worrying about it cause of Icarus
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afaik the drivers for multi arent compiled yet. but we can all hope.
I would love to have multi touch. Another thing, that would kill on this phone, would be the ability to have app2d... It would make it so that we could have more space, with less compromizing of quality, and speed... I heard 2.2 allows this?!
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I would love to have multi touch. Another thing, that would kill on this phone, would be the ability to have app2d... It would make it so that we could have more space, with less compromizing of quality, and speed... I heard 2.2 allows this?!
Yes Android 2.2 Froyo supports moving apps to the SDcard via an app called "Apps2SD"

We can actually do this now with the Ascend if you install the custom ROM called Icarus 1.1

It is Android 2.1 (not 2.2) but comes with an app that automatically moves apps to the SDcard. Very kewl.

And no you can't do it with the "stock" Android 2.1 that the Ascend comes with (sorry) but installing Icarus 1.1 is not that hard and really worth it (well until the official 2.2 comes out ... that MAY be better ... knock on wood).
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I would love to have multi touch. Another thing, that would kill on this phone, would be the ability to have app2d... It would make it so that we could have more space, with less compromizing of quality, and speed... I heard 2.2 allows this?!

Switch to Icarus, it's a2sd is better then the Froyo one. It moves all apps, whether they are designed for it or not.
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did anyone ever figure out the mms fix on the unofficial 2.2 upgrade? I had 2.1 rooted and switched to 2.2 and it was a little faster and better then 2.1, only thing tht sucked was the keyboards were trash and I had to go manually download the swype keyboard from the website. Also I use mms a few times a week so not having it jst made me go back to 2.1. I know this is cheapest android but Im tired of the lag and it being so slow. Even if I overclock it to 600 mhz its slow. I got the phone from a friend for 100 basically new. And have been playing around with it and i like it and itd be perfect if the official 2.2 dropped already. Im very impacient and I dont want to have to go get a different phone. Huawei needs to just release the update.
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i couldnt get icarus installed from my mac because of the same issue others have, but also couldnt do it from XP or windows 7, both of them couldnt find driver software for the phone. really sucks.
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So 2.2 is apparently out for the Ascend....the TapouT Version. THERE HAS TO BE AN UPDATE AROUND THE CORNER!

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What is the difference between our Ascends and the Tapout edition, as far as internals go? Is it the exact same phone, or have they upgraded the hardware inside the phone in the Tapout edition?
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What is the difference between our Ascends and the Tapout edition, as far as internals go? Is it the exact same phone, or have they upgraded the hardware inside the phone in the Tapout edition?

same specs and all, just a different color and 2 backs with different designs. Plus they trying to get there money back from all the rebates they gave out on the regular ascend...
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same specs and all, just a different color and 2 backs with different designs. Plus they trying to get there money back from all the rebates they gave out on the regular ascend...
someone i trust o n here (i think gmash or someone) mentioned it has a gpu. i havent looked though.
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The processor in your phone is what we call an SoC - system on (a) chip - it's actually a collection of several cores (including cpu and 2d/3d graphics, digital signal processing, memory management and more).

In effect, the SoC is similar to a chunk of your PC's motherboard, all on a single chip.

The idea that any phone out there has a separate gpu is something the news blogs like to talk about but in truth the idea is less real than the tooth fairy.

Your phone contains the Qualcomm MSM 7200A - I've only got specs for it in Chinese (Mandarin actually), if I can find the same in English, I'll post back.

Meanwhile - this substantiates which processor your phone has, as most sites tend to get it wrong -

QDevNet - Device Database | See all the latest mobile devices running Qualcomm Adreno GPUs | Qualcomm Developer Network

Note by the title that your phone has an Adreno GPU built-in - that's the name that Qualcomm gave to the graphics core technology they bought from AMD.

Not too shabby!

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someone i trust o n here (i think gmash or someone) mentioned it has a gpu. i havent looked though.
It was the ascend 2, that Blast gt mentioned has the gpu, which I think I brought up somewhere. I think people are getting confused between the ascend 2 and the tapout edition. Afaik the tapout is the same phone except for having 2.2
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The processor in your phone is what we call an SoC - system on (a) chip - it's actually a collection of several cores (including cpu and 2d/3d graphics, digital signal processing, memory management and more).

In effect, the SoC is similar to a chunk of your PC's motherboard, all on a single chip.

The idea that any phone out there has a separate gpu is something the news blogs like to talk about but in truth the idea is less real than the tooth fairy.

Your phone contains the Qualcomm MSM 7200A - I've only got specs for it in Chinese (Mandarin actually), if I can find the same in English, I'll post back.

Meanwhile - this substantiates which processor your phone has, as most sites tend to get it wrong -

QDevNet - Device Database | See all the latest mobile devices running Qualcomm Adreno GPUs | Qualcomm Developer Network

Note by the title that your phone has an Adreno GPU built-in - that's the name that Qualcomm gave to the graphics core technology they bought from AMD.

Not too shabby!

Hope that helps!
Thanks for the info. It was Issac, the creator of icarus, and the guy who got cm7 onto the ascend, who said the lack of a gpu was holding our phones back. I figured if anybody would know it would be him. Now I'm confused.
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He may have simply meant that the gpu core included is not up to the task at hand in the discussion you were having.

Or, he may have been simply mistaken - a lot of guys at XDA who are otherwise geniuses erroneously believe that some phones have separate gpus when they don't.

Also - your phone is listed as an ARM11 type, but it's specifically an ARMv6 on the cpu side - another limitation.

Not that I'm bragging - my ARM7/8 variant is already about at the point of obsolescence (and my built-in Adreno 200 certainly is) - that's just the way it goes with processors.

Like you, I'll be extending the phone's overall lifetime with custom roms, but eventually, limits are reached - then, just smile that you've tweaked every bit possible out it and enjoy!!
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I would love to update my ROM to 2.2. Does anyone have the new ROM yet? An overclocked and optimized ROM from a trusted source would be very welcomed also. Cyanogen 7 is not available for the Ascend http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices and Icarus has issues. Will someone to post a link to the new Huawei Ascend TAPOUT ROM? Cheers, M
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I would love to update my ROM to 2.2. Does anyone have the new ROM yet? An overclocked and optimized ROM from a trusted source would be very welcomed also. Cyanogen 7 is not available for the Ascend http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices and Icarus has issues. Will someone to post a link to the new Huawei Ascend TAPOUT ROM? Cheers, M

pretty sure that phone isnt out for another cpl days.
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I would love to update my ROM to 2.2. Does anyone have the new ROM yet? An overclocked and optimized ROM from a trusted source would be very welcomed also. Cyanogen 7 is not available for the Ascend http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices and Icarus has issues. Will someone to post a link to the new Huawei Ascend TAPOUT ROM? Cheers, M
ok. atm i am un aware of a new froyo rom. the only one i have found for the ascend is the c8500 port here.... [Froyo ROM] for ascend froyo 2.2.1

as for cm7, there IS in fact a rom. follow my guide to install it.... here.... how to install cm6/7 (comprehensive)

and the tapout rom hasn't been pulled yet to my knowledge.

cm7 is gingerbread 2.3. kicks ass. but no mms

only full working rom for the ascend is icarus 1.1.... here... How to install ICARUS 1.1 by Isaacj87

any questions, please search first then ask. pm me if you want too. have fun with the assend.
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Its april 4th and i still havent gotten a txt message from cricket saying there is an official update to 2.2. My phone has been running real slow lately and i am willing to erase everything and update to 2.2 as long as my phone will run faster
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I was just in the corporate metropcs store (citrus heights, ca) to get a replacement phone and the tech who fixes the phones told be that when the tapout comes out we will get an over the air update for sure. Thats as of today 4/4/11
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He may have simply meant that the gpu core included is not up to the task at hand in the discussion you were having.

Or, he may have been simply mistaken - a lot of guys at XDA who are otherwise geniuses erroneously believe that some phones have separate gpus when they don't.

Also - your phone is listed as an ARM11 type, but it's specifically an ARMv6 on the cpu side - another limitation.

Not that I'm bragging - my ARM7/8 variant is already about at the point of obsolescence (and my built-in Adreno 200 certainly is) - that's just the way it goes with processors.

Like you, I'll be extending the phone's overall lifetime with custom roms, but eventually, limits are reached - then, just smile that you've tweaked every bit possible out it and enjoy!!
From what I've read, the ARMv6 is the reason our phones won't do flash, because Adobe requires minimum ARMv7. Is this correct? People are constantly asking about this, and I don't want to give out any bad information. As always, thanks for taking an interest in our humble little phones and checking in on us once in a while.
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That's correct (about Flash, not about your phone being humble - not too long ago it would have been considered beyond state of the art).

The confusion was caused by Adobe - for months on end they promised that they'd support Flash on the ARMv6 - and then silence ensued. When full Flash finally came out, it was with a bunch of phones being dictated to never get an official Froyo or Flash - all of the ARMv6 ones were on that list.

And hey, I'll post here for as long as you cats will tolerate my 2 cents.
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If this is true, it would be chilly. If not, then eff them, and eff tapout. I say, they sold out, and decided to go the same route as walmart, and support a horribly violent sport... If you are into MMA, then whatever, still a bloody, pointless sport...
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I would love to update my ROM to 2.2. Does anyone have the new ROM yet? An overclocked and optimized ROM from a trusted source would be very welcomed also. Cyanogen 7 is not available for the Ascend http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices and Icarus has issues. Will someone to post a link to the new Huawei Ascend TAPOUT ROM? Cheers, M
I had a small issue with sending mms at first with Icarus, but the help of others on the forum I got the issue fixed very quick. Now. It kicks booty.
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I really can't review all 13 pages for these answers so they may have already been asked/ amswered, so ill ask anyway and hope for a reply....if my phone is rooted will i be able to receive the update over the air, or unroot first? Also why are we still programmed with 1x and not 3G? And I did the root correctly but my phone still lags and glitches. It took me 20 minutes to type this via dolphin brower.
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Not sure if it's important or not, but the Ascend is no longer available on Metro's website. It says they are "refilling inventory." Think maybe they are upgrading the phones they have? Don't want to get hopes up, but this has to be a good sign right? MetroPCS | Phone Details)
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or it means that my phone is already obsolete
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I really can't review all 13 pages for these answers so they may have already been asked/ amswered, so ill ask anyway and hope for a reply....if my phone is rooted will i be able to receive the update over the air, or unroot first? Also why are we still programmed with 1x and not 3G? And I did the root correctly but my phone still lags and glitches. It took me 20 minutes to type this via dolphin brower.

A) we won't know until it comes out but it will get posted here.
B) Metro doesn't have 3g. If you are with Cricket I can't help there.
C) Rooting does not speed up your phone. It just gives you the ability to do more things which can speed up your phone, read the threads in the All Things Root subsection.
D) Get the Phandroid App. I'm using it now. It's quicker than using the browser.
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That's a very good probability. I believe Cricket did the same with the Zio before it's update.
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Have you checked out the Optimus C forum? They have had a total of of 3 posts since April 1.
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Have you checked out the Optimus C forum? They have had a total of of 3 posts since April 1.
Your right there is like no buzz over that phone. They only have eight threads. I don't mean I'd get that Optimus. It only has a 3.2 Inch Screen and I always wish the Ascend's screen was bigger. I don't know if LG is known for releasing OS upgades but they sure did just make a lot of Optimus users happy.
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Your right there is like no buzz over that phone. They only have eight threads. I don't mean I'd get that Optimus. It only has a 3.2 Inch Screen and I always wish the Ascend's screen was bigger. I don't know if LG is known for releasing OS upgades but they sure did just make a lot of Optimus users happy.
The Optimus 2x is sweet. Dual-core processor. I wish cricket would get the Huawei Ideos x5. It has a 3.8 inch screen. 3.8-4 inches seems like the perfect size to me. 4.3 just seems too big. I definitely wouldn't want to go smaller than the ascend, though.
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and install it to the older model ?
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and install it to the older model ?
according to the specs for the SE on the metro site its the same fone as ours, so I dont see why not.
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I've heard the Tapout edition will run 2.2.1
The Update for the rest of the Ascends will be 2.2.2
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It's guaranteed to happen.
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The upgrades will happen when they happen. There is probably nothing anyone can do to hurry them so my advice is simply to be patient and wait because anything else is really just a waste of energy.
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I don't care which 2.2 version we get, as long as everything works, as it should. you know?
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I don't care which 2.2 version we get, as long as everything works, as it should. you know?
Thing is tho if its pushed out by the carriers it will be full of bloatware just like 2.1 is
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Very true. at which point i will root!
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A) we won't know until it comes out but it will get posted here.
B) Metro doesn't have 3g. If you are with Cricket I can't help there.
C) Rooting does not speed up your phone. It just gives you the ability to do more things which can speed up your phone, read the threads in the All Things Root subsection.
D) Get the Phandroid App. I'm using it now. It's quicker than using the browser.

A)Ok, understood that a long time ago.
B)I have Metro, but...ok.
C)I understand that the purpose of rooting is not for speed enhancement, and yes, I have read the threads in the All Things Root subsection, and I have removed all my bloatware and installed the necessary apps to boot but I just thought maybe there was another problem to my lag, because since the root I haven't noticed much difference in my phone's performance all-around.
D)I have the Phandroid App specifically for these threads when I'm not around the computer, but for some reason I always get navigated back to the threads through browser even when I do use the app. But, thanks.
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Metro does have 3G, but their phones will show 1X. Verizon is the same, or used to be.
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Just a note - 1X is still 3G, it's just the lower speed standard (hence its name).

But honest - 1X is 100% 3G per the ITU specification.


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This is true.
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and the Ascend wont do 4g which is LTE
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LTE, LTE Advanced, WiMAX, WiMAX 2.0 and HSPA+

4G is a freaking mess.
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I saw a video a few months back. It appears 4g is only a marketing term. Real 4g should be 10-20 times faster than LTE.
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I saw a video a few months back. It appears 4g is only a marketing term. Real 4g should be 10-20 times faster than LTE.
Yep, saw it too.

In a face-saving move, the ITU (responsible for the 4G spec taking so long and having been re-written more times than I can count) gave a press statement that because LTE, WiMAX and HSPA+ in the United States was such a leap ahead of 3G, it was ok to classify and call any of those 4G, with the ITU's sanction and blessing - even though none of them meet the final 4G speed requirements.

Go figure.
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