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Old October 10th, 2011, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Launcher crashes every time i exit an app

I am using lp free. running rooted stock froyo. after about two minutes the app draw apps and shortcuts reappear. I have almost all the space on the phone filled. I have any apps that dont need to be on phone running from sd. I have over 50 add on apps installed. the apps added to the mini shortcuts can be started without waiting for the shortcuts or app draw to reappear. same with recently used apps when i task switch.

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I am using lp free. running rooted stock froyo. after about two minutes the app draw apps and shortcuts reappear. I have almost all the space on the phone filled. I have any apps that dont need to be on phone running from sd. I have over 50 add on apps installed. the apps added to the mini shortcuts can be started without waiting for the shortcuts or app draw to reappear. same with recently used apps when i task switch.

I would suggest using the script V-6 SUPERCHARGER by ZEPPELINROX(@ XDA DEVELOPERS).
See the thread posted by SCUR on the subject here in the ASCEND FORUM & follow the steps verbatim & watch the LP CRASHING disappear.
The steps given are for CM7,but,should be the same for stock-rooted.
Just back-up your current ROM just in case something should go wrong.
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If you have almost all the memory on the phone filled, you will have problems regardless, but install CM7 and you will never have to wait for the apps to reappear.
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Question Now all of a sudden lp isn't crashing

seems to be going back to launcher without crashing now for no particular reason.

Another annoying thing is most apps are on the sd. occasionally I get out phone storage low. And i have to seach for apps in setting and clear their data to get rid of it. What I don't understand is if those apps are on sd why does their data still take up my phone storage? sd card isn't even half full.
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seems to be going back to launcher without crashing now for no particular reason.

Another annoying thing is most apps are on the sd. occasionally I get out phone storage low. And i have to seach for apps in setting and clear their data to get rid of it. What I don't understand is if those apps are on sd why does their data still take up my phone storage? sd card isn't even half full.

Each app has several different files & not all of them get moved to the SD CARD.
Download the app LINK2SD & check out my tutorial on the subject.
Or,as GMash suggested,install CM7 & your internal memory problem will disappear due to DT's A2SD being incorporated into the CM7 ROM.
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If you have almost all the memory on the phone filled, you will have problems regardless, but install CM7 and you will never have to wait for the apps to reappear.
I have CM7, and I always have to wait about 3-4 seconds before apps can reappear, after exiting an app :/
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I have CM7, and I always have to wait about 3-4 seconds before apps can reappear, after exiting an app :/
What launcher do you use? I have Go launcher and haven't had that problem since I was on stock 2.1. Did you check the option to "lock home in memory" in CM7?

Settings> CyanogenMod settings> performance settings
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Each app has several different files & not all of them get moved to the SD CARD.
Download the app LINK2SD & check out my tutorial on the subject.
Or,as GMash suggested,install CM7 & your internal memory problem will disappear due to DT's A2SD being incorporated into the CM7 ROM.
Do i have to uninstall all my apps to use link2sd? Most of my apps are on the card already.
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Do i have to uninstall all my apps to use link2sd? Most of my apps are on the card already.
You would need to back up the contents of your SD card to a computer, because you have to partition the card to use link2sd, which will erase everything on it.
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seems like a lot of work that's why i've avoided it for this long. so far i can still manually clear space when it fills up. Wish there was easier solution. might eventually do it if i get around to it.
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The search on this site is not working to well for me can you please post the link2sd
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my only fear is if i back up all my programs on my my sd card to pc. if for some reason i can't restore them. Can I still remove the apps in settings applications.
or will this cause a major problem? Is it better to just uninstall all the add on apps before doing this?
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What launcher do you use? I have Go launcher and haven't had that problem since I was on stock 2.1. Did you check the option to "lock home in memory" in CM7?

Settings> CyanogenMod settings> performance settings
I'm using ADW.. But I did what you said, about the "lock home in memory", and it worked.. Thanks !!
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seems like a lot of work that's why i've avoided it for this long. so far i can still manually clear space when it fills up. Wish there was easier solution. might eventually do it if i get around to it.
Will i be able to uninstall apps that are on sd card if the card crashed?

Also can i reformat the card by attaching the phone to my pc? This is very complicated. It is not easy to remove the sd card from the ascend.
I hate doing it. if i have to remove the sd card to reformat it is there a market app that can reformat it without removing it?
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Have so many questions. my sd card shows up as 29 gigs.

How big should my partitions be? storage 28 gig? ext3 1 gig?
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The Ascend is only rated for a 16gb card.

1gb of ext is ALOT even half a gb is alot.
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If i could get away with using a gig probably will so as not to have to worry about space for a while. and no one answered if my sd ever went bad would all the apps easilly remove from within my settings applications? if i made a 28gig fat32 and 1 gb fat32 with minitool. does link2sd have ability to reformat the 1 gb fat32 partition as ext3?
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Will i be able to uninstall apps that are on sd card if the card crashed?

Also can i reformat the card by attaching the phone to my pc? This is very complicated. It is not easy to remove the sd card from the ascend.
I hate doing it. if i have to remove the sd card to reformat it is there a market app that can reformat it without removing it?
Not sure what you mean by the first part. If you can copy the contents of your SD card to your computer, you can use ROM Manager to partition the card, which will also erase/format it. (use 512mb/32 swap) transfer your stuff from computer back to SD card, then use link2sd to move the apps. But if you're doing all of that, why not just flash CM7?
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CM7 has issues and i don't have time to troubleshoot them.
The xga link seems to say to back up anyway but the minitool might partition sdcard
from pc without even reformatting. I have 29 gigs recognized. would I get any benefit out of using a full gig for ext? does link2sd format partitions? minitool supposedly can format them as fat32. i could download rom manager to format if necessary. xga usually shows both scenarios rooted stock and cm7. most people in this forum keep pushing cm7. I haven't taken the cm7 plunge because till this point the rooted stock froyo works fine for me. I have to create a swap partition also? 32 meg? don't remember seeing anything about it on xga tut.
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CM7 has issues and i don't have time to troubleshoot them.
The xga link seems to say to back up anyway but the minitool might partition sdcard
from pc without even reformatting. I have 29 gigs recognized. would I get any benefit out of using a full gig for ext? does link2sd format partitions? minitool supposedly can format them as fat32. i could download rom manager to format if necessary. xga usually shows both scenarios rooted stock and cm7. most people in this forum keep pushing cm7. I haven't taken the cm7 plunge because till this point the rooted stock froyo works fine for me. I have to create a swap partition also? 32 meg? don't remember seeing anything about it on xga tut.

LINK2SD does not format or partition your SD CARD.
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ok thanks. What I am understanding is minitool in windows might be able to create a fat32 partition without reformatting at all. then I could leave the current fat32 partition intact.Shrink it to 28 gig. Then create a separate 1 gig fat32 partition and since all androids understand fat32 I could use that partition after installing link2sd.
Least pain and reconfiguration. of course back up all data before i do this.
Sorry to say but if it's really that simple. In my opinion it's easier and less risky than going to cm7.Although I might want to try cm7 eventually maybe on a tablet. I just want to do this the easiest way so I don't have to troubleshoot a lot of things. I'm also guessing that after I install link2sd that I have to then link the apps to the new partition. How do I handle all the apps that are already on the sdcard?
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No. Thats not going to work. In minitool you need to make a FAT32 and an EXT. Android recognizes a FAT32 as the "main" part of your sd card. Make a FAT32 and an EXT and set them both to Primary.
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Thanks for that. very interesting so minitool can make linux ext partitions even though it's a windows utility. and in this case I can just shrink the one big one which i assume is already primary. And create an ext partition maybe a gig and make that primary too. install link2sd bada bing bada boom hopefully that'll work.
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Yeah just make make a FAT32 of whatever size you want and set it Primary. Then make the EXT of whatever size you want and set that also to Primary. You can also make a Linux Swap in Minitool if you wanted. Just like everything else set it to Primary. Then hit apply and it will partition the sd card. Once you partition it youre done. I used minitool on my 4gb sd card because CWR failed to partition it and I did not reformat or anything.
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Also what are the advantages to making a swap? and if i have a 28 gig fat32 part
and a 1 gig ext part. how big would I make my swap? 32 meg?
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Swap and also compcache are 2 hotly debated things. Some people think and say it makes the phone faster some say you dont need it and that it does nothing because of the way to Android OS manages its RAM. Both are memory management but like I said lot of people say it makes the phone faster but alot say it doesnt do anything because of Android's memory manager kills inactive processes to free up memory. I did a 32 swap and I cant really say it made my phone any faster.
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Created a ext3 1 gig partition with minitool, but link2sd says it cannot find it.
To go back and make it fat32. try
ing that. There is no mention in the tut of making the partition the active one.
So I am assuming I should not because the first partition should be.
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ing that. There is no mention in the tut of making the partition the active one.
So I am assuming I should not because the first partition should be.

Try using the other options in LINK2SD.I've had it say I had a different partition than what I had,but,it still worked.
That happened,even though I used the same method of partitioning my SD CARD (CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY METHOD).
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Try using the other options in LINK2SD.I've had it say I had a different partition than what I had,but,it still worked.
That happened,even though I used the same method of partitioning my SD CARD (COCKWORKMOD RECOVERY METHOD).
Haha he said COCKWORK.
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Question He's right fat32 works on all androids

Got link2sd working.

Noticed something I can only either move an app to sd or symbolically link it. Which saves most space? also everything already on sd looks like it would have to be moved back to phone one by one to symbolically link. looks like i just figured that out. i took go sms off sd put in on phone then linked. my phone storage went from 31.34 mb to 37.57 mb.

How much space should i have on my phone's internal storage to run optimally?
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Got link2sd working.

Noticed something I can only either move an app to sd or symbolically link it. Which saves most space? also everything already on sd looks like it would have to be moved back to phone one by one to symbolically link. looks like i just figured that out. i took go sms off sd put in on phone then linked. my phone storage went from 31.34 mb to 37.57 mb.

How much space should i have on my phone's internal storage to run optimally?

If your phone is working OK,the amount doesn't really matter.However,as a rule of thumb,I've read from previous posts here that people usually start experiencing lag,F/C,etc..,when memory falls below 20MB.

The important thing is some things are best left on the phone memory,namely MARKET,stock keyboard(or any keyboard from personal experience),stock browser,& most,if not all,GOOGLE APPS,just to be on the safe side.
Generally,leave SYSTEM APPS on the phone & user(downloaded,except MARKET) can run off the SDCard.

If you're getting these stats from the SETTINGS section on your phone,remember that this reading is not accurate as LINK2SD is fooling the phone into thinking the apps are on the phone,just like DT's A2SD.
Check the info in LINK2SD & it will give you a more accurate reading of memory & where it is stored.
TITANIUM BACKUP also reads the partition & gives an accurate readout of memory stats.
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Settings thinks I have 100 mbs now. it was at 17 last I checked. Gonna check link2sd and titanium for more accurate stats. I'm assuming email and lin2sd should stay on the phone. If everything run without too many errors this may be the solution I needed.
Now it's 92.75 mb free. cause i put google maps back on phone cause of what you said.
my second partition is 25% used. I assume I can go back and resize it if it fills up. Minitool is neat that's the first windows app i've seen that can make ext3,4 partitions.
I could have use mk -fs under linux or disk management in windows. but i didn't know i was going to wind up using fat32. And i think doing it in linux would have been destructive. All in All it's a nice free tool. Also did it under a vm because this laptop only has Suse linux on it.
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G-MAPS might run OK on the SDCard,but,more than likely,will run slower.
At this point,you might want to make a backup of your ROM,so as to be safe when experimenting w/what works on SD & what doesn't.
Another tip:
Any user apps that require speed/quickness to work properly/best results(games,geo-locating,to name a few),are usually best left on internal memory.
Also,when moving apps to & from internal to external & back,some do not work properly(namely keyboards),even when moved back to internal storage.
So,if you don't have your current ROM backed up @ this time,I strongly suggest doing so now,just in case things go wrong & you have to do a total wipe & start over.
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What do i use for that rom manager? do i need cwm to restore to my old rom if I back it up? Almost everything I had installed was already on the sd card, all I did was move them back to phone then link them to sd. If I crash I could restore to factory correct? would i need to pick up a small sd card and put cwm on it?
If I backed up my rom and at some point wanted to go to cm7 could I do it straight from rom manager? The recovery mode volume up volume down seems very tedious. It took me hours just to get this done today. Almost everything i have on sd is an ad on app. if apps crashed i can just reinstall.I see clockwork mod Rom manager in the market. Also how long does it take to back up the rom? If it were as easy as installing rom manager and running a backup and waiting I might consider doing it.
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You can use ROM MANAGER to do your back-up,it takes you to CWM & performs the back-up.
Once you've gotten more comfortable performing back-ups & restores,I'd give CWM a try.Once you become accustomed to using CWM,you'll use ROM MANAGER less & less.
Same w/using ROOT EXPLORER.The more you use this great tool,you'll stop using TITANIUM BACK-UP altogether.
ROOT EXPLORER & CWM are all you really need to manage your ROMS.IMHO,in this instance,less is more.
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1. How long does it take?

2. Does Rom Manager install CWM for me?

3. Cause I need to know how long my phone will be out
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Will this work and how long will it take? See link below.

How To Install ClockworkMod Recovery 3+ Using ROM Manager
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I stay away from ROM Manager as far as possible, and instead do things manually the way described in the Ultimate Ascend Guide sticky. You can use the CWM downloads found in the Handy Ascend Downloads sticky. And it doesn't take long either way.
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Question Getting mixed opinions on rom manager

Some say it sucks never works and they hate it.

Others say it is great.

Not sure what to believe however not sure I like remebering the volume up down manual way in recovery mode either.

At a stand still as to whether to back up my rooted froyo or just leave it alone and factory restore it if something happens I can't fix.

Also rom manager seems to say it comes with clockworkmod recovery 5 for some devices.
Does it support the ascend. and will that back up my rom?
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Clockworkmod recovery 5.0.2.3 for the Ascend isnt "official" meaning its the real deal its just not in Rom Manager. You can find it on PG's wiki or I posted a link to it in the "Handy Download links" post by Scur, Personally I dont use RM. Ive always had problems after flashes with it. And flashing manually is just as easy if not easier then with rom manager and I find it more effective,
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Well for me knowing hardly anything about flashing, rom manager was super easy.
I just installed CWM and backed up my stock rooted customized froyo. I may even consider eventually taking the plunge to cm7. Now that my rom is backed up.
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I have a problem opening an epub book in fbreader. Seems to stay on opening forever. This is on cm7
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I dont even know what that is ahaha
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