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Old December 28th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Unlocking the bootloader, custom recovery, kernels, etc

The kyocera rise users are working towards the same goals as us. I just wanted to share the thread and open the discussion to the hydro users since the only difference between the two phones is the slide out keyboard and water resistant stuff. They use the same locked bootloader, recovery and secure kernel.

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Default Trying to build CWM

Iam trying to build the recovery. i keep gettting this error. even when i change the recovery partition size in BoardConfig.mk

Target boot image: out/target/product/rise/boot.img
out/target/product/rise/boot.img total size is 4464640
error: out/target/product/rise/boot.img too large (4464640 > [3784704 - 270336])
make: *** [out/target/product/rise/boot.img] Error 1

Anyone with more experience know what to do ?

EDIT: Actually i seem to get that error when i try to build a recovery for anything, tried the warp for the hell of of, same thing
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Well, I'll look into it after work, I had no issues building cwm or twrp, so it might be something in your source.
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Default CWM6 Keyocera RISE / HYDRO Recovery & Installer

Now i j just need to get one of these phones, and we need to unlock the bootloader, which i hope is possible.

here is my first contribution to the Keyocera Rise/HYDRO phones.

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Tips: how to hard reset Kyocera Rise C5155 to restore its factory data PDF Guide

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Now i j just need to get one of these phones, and we need to unlock the bootloader, which i hope is possible.

here is my first contribution to the Keyocera Rise/HYDRO phones.

CWM6 Recovery and installer (For Windows Users)
Have you actually built it yet, or are you going to build it? I've tried building CWM5, but it doesn't boot on the phone. Probably because of the bootloader?
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sorry, i edited out that post, we can not make cwm work right now because the bootloader is locked. we need to first work on that, there is a link in the op that show where the progress is, the rise and the hydro are the same
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sorry, i edited out that post, we can not make cwm work right now because the bootloader is locked. we need to first work on that, there is a link in the op that show where the progress is, the rise and the hydro are the same
yeah, it's my thread I just was interested to try out somebody else's build of CWM for this phone.
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It appears we can forget unlocking Kyocera boot loader and just use HTC
OKAY, First off. There is no need to post this multiple times. If you look at the Kyocera Rise thread you posted on, this was debunked to be the work of a popular spam. We will not be able to use methods from other manufacturers to unlock the bootloader on the Kyocera Rise/Hydro. Case closed, move on.
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I'm a newb at this, but is there anything I could do to help?
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The bootloader can only be used by the factory or an Authorized Distributor are allowed to flash the firmware through a desktop software.

No no that just won't do
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I'm a newb at this, but is there anything I could do to help?
Without skill at hacking Android, for now probably not directly. You can do what I'm doing though, field problems/questions so those who have the skill to h4x0r the phone have time to do it without distraction.

Or if you're rich you could send Amazon codes to the most skilled developers so they can buy guineapig phones. That seriously would help though, nobody wants to brick their daily driver.
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Lol, mine was specifically bought for development. Its not my daily driver.

So when I get a little more time here I will start testing some stuff.
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Can't wait for some progress as i got a paperweight.
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Can't wait for some progress as i got a paperweight.
You should look in to a warranty phone if you can. This isn't likely to ever be able to bring locked phones back.
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Now i j just need to get one of these phones, and we need to unlock the bootloader, which i hope is possible.

here is my first contribution to the Keyocera Rise/HYDRO phones.

CWM6 Recovery and installer (For Windows Users)
WHERE IS YOUR FIRST CONTRIBUTION..my HYDRO almost smoked a HTC and GALAXY
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Pulled because of the locked bootloader
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Have you actually built it yet, or are you going to build it? I've tried building CWM5, but it doesn't boot on the phone. Probably because of the bootloader?
i built it, but cant test lol
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i new here but just wanted to let everyone know there is a new ota firmware update out for hydro in process of donwloading now will let know if it brakes root or not also i remember someone say something about manipulating and update package to get to and unlock bootloader is that possible

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Hey guys I have the new firmware update on my phone... haven't tried to install it yet don't .. I can't find where the file(s) r stored. If someone knows where its stored I'll put it in a drop box link for y'all
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They got 3 folders under /cache 1st-Delta which has stuff in it the next are empty they are 2nd-lost+found 3rd-recovery have update download to but can't find unless that Delta folder is it plz help any ideas where to find files

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The delta folder in /cache is the update but for some reason mine won't install gives error 8507 and says contact service provider
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I zipped the delta folder looks like a lot of .bin files uploading to google drive now so can give link for download hope this update file helps yall to shed some light on getting access to bootloader and unlocking will post link when upload done
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This should be it let me know if ain't

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We did that with the Rise, nobody had any luck decoding it in to anything useful yet.
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well dont that just bite a big one and on top that I cant even install it keeps give error 8507 and to contact service provider which i did should hear back from boost sometime soon

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Kyocera just released a new phone for Virgin Mobile called the Kyocera Event...It looks to be the same as the hydro...wtihout the hydro. Will anyone be tinkering with that phone?
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Not me, I will never own another Kyocera brand phone.
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Not me, I will never own another Kyocera brand phone.
I will not also they just screwed them selves with this is pushing developers away from their devices. Which will drop there sales do to people liking to modify there own property. There loss
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I think everyone should send emails to the Kyocera mobile company and explain how ******ed it was to put out devices without the capability of modifying! I believe their website has a place to give them a "much" needed review of their horrible mistake!
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I think everyone should send emails to the Kyocera mobile company and explain how ******ed it was to put out devices without the capability of modifying! I believe their website has a place to give them a "much" needed review of their horrible mistake!
Explain it to Boost/Sprint
This model phone was designed under contract with boost/sprint
Its not an open design, and Kyo has to abide by the contract terms.
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Explain it to Boost/Sprint
This model phone was designed under contract with boost/sprint
Its not an open design, and Kyo has to abide by the contract terms.
And once again that's why they're gonna lose customers because instead they'd rather "make the service provider happy" instead of the customer that makes it all happen by using their services and devices...
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Maybe a good idea to redirect them to this thread.
I tried to invite them to AF, and asked them to participate, similar to what zte and HTC did.
They never responded.
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I'm switching to net10 and getting the HTC vivid.
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And once again that's why they're gonna lose customers because instead they'd rather "make the service provider happy" instead of the customer that makes it all happen by using their services and devices...
You aren't getting it.
Kyo builds the phones for the provider, that is who is buying the phones from kyo.
Kyo is not building something to their own specs and selling to the general public.
Its not a case of Kyo would rather....

Boost is the customer, not you/us.
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That's all well and good on paper, but their argument is that Kyocera is creating a shitty reputation with the end user. Sure they build the devices to the carriers spec under contract, but the carrier doesn't use the devices, we do. Unfortunately it's not a popular enough brand for that to even matter, Kyocera is probably better off sticking to their arrangement.
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Finally someone that understands what I was trying to say, Kyocera is sh** anyway, fortunately I didn't buy this phone nor will I ever buy a Kyocera device now that I see that they're NOT for the customer and instead for the service provider... WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH??
What's clear to me is that you don't own this phone, never will, have no vested interest here as do other members, so there's no need for further negative opinions like this here that help no one.
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I beg your pardon I do own this phone but I'll never own another Kyocera model ever again...
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I beg your pardon I do own this phone but I'll never own another Kyocera model ever again...
Are you posting to help others, ask a question or just to let us know that you don't like Kyocera?

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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:45 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Okay, I have a close friend that just bought this phone. He rooted successfully and proceeded to download a beats audio driver to the device. He now has no service or data at all. Is there any way to do a factory restore and fix this?
He came and talked to me while I was at work, so I never really got a chance to look at it. I know nothing about this brand. Any suggestions I can give him when I talk to him?
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Okay, I have a close friend that just bought this phone. He rooted successfully and proceeded to download a beats audio driver to the device. He now has no service or data at all. Is there any way to do a factory restore and fix this?
He came and talked to me while I was at work, so I never really got a chance to look at it. I know nothing about this brand. Any suggestions I can give him when I talk to him?
Ugh, yea beats audio messes this phone up
There is a thread here about fixing it, you will have to do a search for it
I think you have to hand replace some files back to stock
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Well, I gave up on the Hydro for now, gave it to my son. I've done quite a bit of research on the locked bootloader and the only thing that we could do to get around it is to build one. I myself have to many projects to work on that one.

To everyone, good luck!
in time kyocera may just release an unlock.
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Well, I gave up on the Hydro for now, gave it to my son. I've done quite a bit of research on the locked bootloader and the only thing that we could do to get around it is to build one. I myself have to many projects to work on that one.

To everyone, good luck!
in time kyocera may just release an unlock.
Lol, I hear ya, I'm giving mine to my wife and buying a new Transform Ultra on the 1st of April...
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Lol, I hear ya, I'm giving mine to my wife and buying a new Transform Ultra on the 1st of April...
there will be an ota on the 1st, from samsung, it will be a locked bootloader, with the message "April Fools! from samsung"
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ROFL!! You're too much...
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I understand that while we have root for the Kyocera Hydro, Rise and Event, they all have locked boot-loaders so we can't have custom ROM's and Kernels. I used to have a Motorola Atrix HD and it also had a locked boot-loader, the XDA developers were able to get around this by using something called safe-strap, which I believe modified the boot sequence allowing us to boot ROM's from the SD-Card, would this be possible for us?
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I understand that while we have root for the Kyocera Hydro, Rise and Event, they all have locked boot-loaders so we can't have custom ROM's and Kernels. I used to have a Motorola Atrix HD and it also had a locked boot-loader, the XDA developers were able to get around this by using something called safe-strap, which I believe modified the boot sequence allowing us to boot ROM's from the SD-Card, would this be possible for us?
That sounds very interesting...
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i was looking at the safe strap thing, and its webpage and its mainly built for the razr/maxx, droid 4 atrix and droid 3. look at it and see what you think...
droidmodderx.com/bionic/recovery-safestrap-v3-04-new-touch-based-interface-101612/
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I'm not sure what difference there is between motorla devices and others, I believe it modifies the android os not the bootloader so I see no technical reason it couldn't be ported to our devices but then again I'm not a developer, that's why I asked to see if anyone knew if it could work, perhaps we should contact the safestrap developers to see how it works and if it would be possible to port it to non motorla devices.
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