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Old March 14th, 2013, 06:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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IS it just me, or does it seem that the rooting process is becoming more and more complicated and a bit Rube Goldberg-y?


Will someone, at some point, write an automated script for the Dinc 4G? Download one package, click one button or two, and have it all automated like the old days of unrevoked on the OG Dinc? Even my Rezound was overcomplicated to get s-off. Please, please, please, someone build an all included, automated package. Please!

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The bootloader unlock method on xda already has an automated script option and the s off method by unlimited io is fairly simple, in fact the actual dirtyracun script is automated. You must complete a few simple steps to prep for the script but still.....I would be willing to help you if you'd like.
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I might take you up on that. Some things are just confusing, like the part where it says i must temp root in the middle of unlocking.
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Are you talking of s off? You do not unlock you lock your boot loader than run ruu.zip than temp root using the fireballas method in which there is a script which will automate temp root alone. When or if you decide to do it pm me and I'll try to help you out.
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To be honest, i would be perfectly happy with a bootloader unlock, temp recovery flash so i can flash SU, then go back to stock recovery like i did on the Rezound. I am not wanting to flash ROMs, just run some root apps.
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S-off is really the way to go.
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Maybe. But would it really be that hard to put together an automated script? Far less chance of human error that way, IMO.
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The temp root you need for dirty racun is not hard. I've seen plenty of script failures,and they are much harder to troubleshoot and figure out.

Even considering your needs id agree to do s off,as the inc 4g is not officially supported by htcdev,and must be temp rooted and the cid changed to make it work. The s off process is not any harder.

Also,the visual affects of htcdev are not removable,while the visual affects of s off are.
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Yeah, like I said there are just a few simple steps you must complete in the dirty racun process. These steps are actions anyone attempting to root a phone should either know or at least learn to do. The actual dirty work of S off is gained after running the dirty racun which at this point its click it and watch and read a comical series of sentences about the racun sneaking around your system. Unlocking your boot loader will void your warranty and leave a watermark on your splash screen and will say tampered in bootloader. There is already an automated script to unlock your bootloader so if that's all you want or willing to do I don't understand what your asking.
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Yeah, like I said there are just a few simple steps you must complete in the dirty racun process. These steps are actions anyone attempting to root a phone should either know or at least learn to do. The actual dirty work of S off is gained after running the dirty racun which at this point its click it and watch and read a comical series of sentences about the racun sneaking around your system. Unlocking your boot loader will void your warranty and leave a watermark on your splash screen and will say tampered in bootloader. There is already an automated script to unlock your bootloader so if that's all you want or willing to do I don't understand what your asking.
Well, in the middle of the s-off process it says you must temproot by any method available. In the middle of the process? Do you have to leave the dirtyracun program to do that? Can you be temprooted before? Where do you flash a recovery? These things aren't clear to me.

I have s-off on both my rezound and OG Dinc, and neither one were this complicated.
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At this point in the dirty racun method

Temproot your phone via any method available - we cannot help with this step and it is REQUIRED!

Already have the latest script downloaded and ready from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33987191

run the option to temproot remember run ONLY the temproot option than close the script and proceed onto the next step in dirty racun.


Recovery is flashed after s off is gained
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Is recovery flashed while in dirty racun? or later in cmd window?
And in that temproot process is says to unlock with HTCDev. That no longer works with the Dinc4G
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I have s-off on both my rezound and OG Dinc, and neither one were this complicated.
saaaaaay whaaaaaa

IMO the wire trick utilized by jp bear is more complicated than having to temp root to run dirty raccun.

however,after reading thru the dirty raccun directions again,i realized that is no longer windows supported. you will also have to create a ubuntu 32 bit live cd in order to use this tool. if this is an issue,it may be a good idea to just unlock the bootloader for now. the inc4gunlock 3.5.rar link at the bottom of the post linked by praire looks like it will do most everything for you,including install the recovery. i havent run this script but i imagine that it will require you to also sign up at htcdev so you can submit the token that the script generates.

this may suit your needs,however you will not be able to remove the relocked watermark. if your proficient at linux,or know someone who is,s off is still the better way to go.
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At this point in the dirty racun method

Temproot your phone via any method available - we cannot help with this step and it is REQUIRED!

Already have the latest script downloaded and ready from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33987191

run the option to temproot remember run ONLY the temproot option than close the script and proceed onto the next step in dirty racun.


Recovery is flashed after s off is gained
i downloaded both versions of team fireballas script. neither looks like it has an option to temp root,so can you clarify the above? just run option 1 to unlock bootloader(wich i assume will temp root,change cid,and provide an unlock token)??

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it is flashed later. as an RUU in fastboot,or as a PJ53IMG in hboot,as dirty racun does not unlock the bootloader.
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however,after reading thru the dirty raccun directions again,i realized that is no longer windows supported. you will also have to create a ubuntu 32 bit live cd in order to use this tool. if this is an issue,it may be a good idea to just unlock the bootloader for now. the inc4gunlock 3.5.rar link at the bottom of the post linked by praire looks like it will do most everything for you,including install the recovery. i havent run this script but i imagine that it will require you to also sign up at htcdev so you can submit the token that the script generates.
How can i use HTCDev when the phone isn't supported anymore?

Sorry for all the questions, but i want to feel comfortable before i dive into this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35960433

Version 5 has an option to temproot its not in the OP mdmower posted it later I'm sorry I knew it existed but forgot where.


Download this script it is as noob proof as possible.
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How can i use HTCDev when the phone isn't supported anymore?

Sorry for all the questions, but i want to feel comfortable before i dive into this.
Select other supported devices
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ANd that works ok?
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the inc4gunlock 3.5.rar link at the bottom of the post linked by praire looks like it will do most everything for you,including install the recovery.




htcdev unlock is availble if the CID is changed. the tool will temp root,change the cid,and provide you with an identifier token. you will manually submit the token to htcdev. save the unlock_code.bin to the extracted tool folder. it will unlock,and it will install the recovery. all youll have to do afterward is boot to recovery,and use the menus to manually flash the supersu file.

again,if you want to htcdev unlock and stay s on,just download,extract, and run the tool. its that easy.
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So i have to have all the files in the same folder in C:\Root? DO i just rename the recovery to recovery.img?

And most everything else is automated?
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All options? or just certain ones?
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The unlock bootloader option, just run it you will be amazed on how easy it all goes.
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So i have to have all the files in the same folder in C:\Root? DO i just rename the recovery to recovery.img?

And most everything else is automated?
if you download the one i suggested above,it contains a recovery image,so you dont need anythig other than superuser(cant link atm but its same one used on the rezound)

if you download the one with the temp root option,youll need to download a seperate recovery image and add it to the folder. id suggest twrp rather than CW,and not knowing anything about the scripts internals,id venture to guess yes,rename the image "recovery"(dont add the ext,since windlows likes to do that,and hide it,automatically)

in either case,you just need to download the script,and extract it. put it anywhere easy to find- root of C,or even desktop. click "run me" inside the folder. after that,yes,all automated,with exception of submitting the identifier token to htc to get the unlock_code.
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Great! I will give it a go this weekend
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OK, happy now! I unlocked, flashed recovery, then flashed SU from recovery and i can run root apps. Yay!

Thanks fellas!
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awsome! glad to hear it
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Once Dirtyracun works on Windows i'll give that a go. Thanks again
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Is there a link for the windows download somewhere in that thread?
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ive got a copy of it too.. but be aware that using it(and using 64 bit) is not recomended. there must have been some issues with the windows program(it did work fine for me) or they wouldnt have pulled the link.

if you decide to go ahead with the windows version,dont go to IRC and ask for help- they wont help you,and they wont be very nice
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It's too bad they restricted support to IRC. It would have been useful to see the problems people had.
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I got kicked out of irc for using xp then problem solved using xda and myself then grew a pair and said fck it then to my delight success!
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It's too bad they restricted support to IRC. It would have been useful to see the problems people had.
there must have been some sort of issues with it... it worked fine for me,but i have helped folks with some really wierd connectivity issues on windows.its very driver sensative,and very suseptible to things running and interfering with the phones comunication. depending on the "delicateness" of the process,i can see how theyd rather be safe than sorry if an improper PC environment has more than a slim chance of really fudging something up

i really wish i was better with linux,as much as i love to mess with phones,its the better OS to use.
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It's not at all hard to boot a LiveCD so I can see why they would restrict their support issues. That they do support at all is pretty amazing.
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My computer is on Win 7 64 bit. I ran the unlock and recovery flash just fine on this phone and my old rezound. It showed up as an abd device, so i ran it.
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unlocking and flashing recovery on an s on phone is fairly harmless. 64bit is supposedly somewhat unstable when working with the phone,so its somewhat of a gamble to use it when manipulating important "wont boot if theyre borked" parts of your phone

lots of folks have had success with 64 bit on jp bear and dirty racun. unfortunately that doesnt gaurantee that everyone else will. just something to consider if you decide to do it.

as bberry said,its not hard to create and boot a 32 bit ubuntu cd,even from within windows 8
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Thanks. But as it is I am happy with the device. It's fast. Battery is good. I can run root apps. It's all good.

With my OG Inc and Rezound I was a flashing whore. All in attempts to gain better battery and certain functions. I have all that now and still like the OS. So I'm good.
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