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Old December 22nd, 2011, 05:24 AM   #701 (permalink)
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It's aliiiiivvvveeee!!!

If I do indeed want to risk rooting again. How should I go about it?

You'd follow the steps in the first post again. Just make sure you don't miss any details. The one important one is to put the correct version of clockwork into unrevoked before you start rooting.(that is where you fouled up last time). *Before* you plug the phone into your PC, start unrevoked and you'll be able to click the menu option in the top left of the program to select an alternate recovery. Then you can plug the phone into the PC.

Another key step is to get organized, download all of the files necessary and put them all in one spot, make sure you can easily identify what each one is for(rename them if you have to). Only change the file names to PB31IMG.zip when you are about to use the file and immediately delete it off your SD card when done. Checking the md5 of every file is also EXTREMELY important and will save you from a brick.

When rewriting the misc.img, make sure you are getting the same responses that Scotty posted in the first post.

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Thanks! I believe that's what happened the first time. I had it plugged in the whole time so it brought up an outdated/incorrect version of clockwork.

Now it is rooted and has superuser permissions.

I don't think I'm going to downgrade at this time as I just wanted to be rooted and I'm afraid of doing much more to it at this time.

Do you think I should downgrade or is this fine?

Once again, thanks to you and Scotty for all your help!
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I tried the steps to downgrade it and two things happened.
When trying these steps: cd /data/local
chmod 0755 /data/local/flash_image

cd /data/local
./flash_image misc /sdcard/mtd0.img


It said "bad substitution" but when I checked the md5 sums they were correct and the mtd0.img file is on my sdcard.

Secondly, when in hboot and after the blue status bar is finished loading and it is checking the PB31IMG file, it says "Main Version is Older! Update Fail!".


I rebooted and the phone appears fine and is recognizable by my computer.
I'm just wondering if I should go through with the unrevoked forever since it didn't update as it was supposed to or what I can do to fix the issues I mentioned.
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I tried the steps to downgrade it and two things happened.
When trying these steps: cd /data/local
chmod 0755 /data/local/flash_image

cd /data/local
./flash_image misc /sdcard/mtd0.img


It said "bad substitution" but when I checked the md5 sums they were correct and the mtd0.img file is on my sdcard.

Secondly, when in hboot and after the blue status bar is finished loading and it is checking the PB31IMG file, it says "Main Version is Older! Update Fail!".


I rebooted and the phone appears fine and is recognizable by my computer.
I'm just wondering if I should go through with the unrevoked forever since it didn't update as it was supposed to or what I can do to fix the issues I mentioned.
you can't do the downgrade via pb31img.zip UNTIL you successfully rewrite the misc.img. Those files don't go on your sd card, they stay on your computer in the same folder as mini adb. Unless you get the same outputs that are in the first post you will not be able to downgrade.
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Thanks! I was entering the commands wrong.
I do have a question about unrevoked forever.

According to the information it does not list my radio baseband as being supported.
My radio baseband is 2.15.10.07.07. Will this change after it is done downgrading?

I have another question but this is about titanium backup (not pro).
When I go to forcibly remove app it brings me to the clockwork screen and doesn't remove the app I selected.
Is there a better way to remove the built in apps like skype, slacker, and amazon mp3?

Also, not sure if I should ask here but how would I go about removing carrieriq?
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You have an incompatible version of clockwork on your phone, head to pvillecomp.com and go to the recoveries section. Download the latest clockwork recovery and rename it to PB31IMG.zip and install with hboot. This will give you a working recovery where you will be able to install a working from.

Again, remove the file you currently have on your SD card.

Alternatively you can download the gingerbread PB31IMG.zip file and this will put you back where you started.
I'm having a bit of the same problem.

I'm in ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0 which, as far as I can tell, is the most up-to-date version. However, when I click on one of the options, it brings me to a black screen with the tophat, orange arrow logo and doesn't do anything else. When I attempt to install the zip file from the sdcard, it brings me to the same screen. I have to end up removing the battery to get the phone to do anything.

Any thoughts? This is my first time rooting my phone and it's a bit confusing but I've figured my way this far. I'm just totally stuck at the moment.
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Oh wait, I figured it out. I gotta use the camera button.

And here I thought it was a super complex problem!
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Thanks! I was entering the commands wrong.
I do have a question about unrevoked forever.

According to the information it does not list my radio baseband as being supported.
My radio baseband is 2.15.10.07.07. Will this change after it is done downgrading?

I have another question but this is about titanium backup (not pro).
When I go to forcibly remove app it brings me to the clockwork screen and doesn't remove the app I selected.
Is there a better way to remove the built in apps like skype, slacker, and amazon mp3?

Also, not sure if I should ask here but how would I go about removing carrieriq?

The downgrade changes your radio to a compatible version. You can't remove apps with titanium until you have downgraded and achieved s-off.

Carrier IQ doesn't exist on the incredible.
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I cannot say it enough. Thank you and Scotty so much for the help and the quick responses.

I was not aware that my phone never had carrieriq. Glad to hear it, though.
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Do you think I should downgrade or is this fine?
i am of the fairly firm opnion that it is much better to be s-off,as long as this power is used responibly it offers many advantages by being able to flash unsigned by htc files thru the bootloader. this means you can flash older RUUs if you want,and you can flash hboots,radios and recoverys in hboot.

in the case of a soft brick,there are many more options for recovery. for example your situation before. if you were s-off,sdraws suggestion to simply flash the latest clockwork recovery in hboot would have been a good one,even the best one . you could have done that and had a recovery you could see,so you could wipe cache and dalvik,and be able to falsh a new rom and stayed rooted.

since you were s-on,our only choice was htc signed files. since you cant flash older ones(as you found out from trying to flash the froyo one and getting the main version higher error) our only option to save you was the PB31IMG of GB that you flashed. luckily it worked (j/k i had faith it would) while it got you back to a working device it wipe out all your root,your recovery, and personal data.

technically you could stay rooted and s-on and flash roms,etc,but IMO its worth the effort to downgrade and get s-off,even if you only plan to run a stock rooted,debloated rom.

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I tried the steps to downgrade it and two things happened.
When trying these steps: cd /data/local
chmod 0755 /data/local/flash_image

cd /data/local
./flash_image misc /sdcard/mtd0.img


It said "bad substitution" but when I checked the md5 sums they were correct and the mtd0.img file is on my sdcard.

Secondly, when in hboot and after the blue status bar is finished loading and it is checking the PB31IMG file, it says "Main Version is Older! Update Fail!".


I rebooted and the phone appears fine and is recognizable by my computer.
I'm just wondering if I should go through with the unrevoked forever since it didn't update as it was supposed to or what I can do to fix the issues I mentioned.
as sdraw said,there was error somewhere in the adb steps. when youre feeling up to trying it again,follow the directions in the first post to copy the text in your command window before you let it close.

then if the PB31IMG fails,as it did this time, paste it into a reply at the end of this thread,and we can figure out where it went wrong. i find seeing the paste of the code to be very helpful in determining adb errors
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well, i have spent the last 4 hours reading this entire thread and so far i can't fix my problem: whenever i try booting i get the black screen with the white bars. from what i understand this means that my phone is slcd. in the second step of it says to change the phone to debug and make sure that it is in charge only mode. i did that and then kept following the instructions to open unrevoked and then i was unable to do file>custom recovery. from what i can tell this means that i didn't get the update version of cwm. i've tried all the things that have been mentioned. the last thing i tried was getting the updated recovery image from pvillecomp and putting it on the sd card. that seems to load fine. then i try recovery and i get the black screen and white bars again. at the top of the screen i have:

hboot 0.92.0000
radio 2.15.10.07.07

any ideas? if nothing fresh, could someone please consolidate things i should try? maybe i missed something

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you can just run unrevoked 3.22 again. this time do not plug i your phone until after youve selected custom recovery on the unrevoked screen.

or you can just continue with the downgrade. having a working clockwork is not important to the process of downgrading,its an extra bonus in case you want to make a backup of your current setup.
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when i try to run 3.22 it says "device '/sbin/sh: getprop' is not supported at this time". and i've also tried to continue with the downgrade but when i put 2.2 on the sd, it loads and then gives me the message about it being and older version and i can't figure out what to do about that. and when i do "adb devices" it doesn't find any
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if youre not getting a reply at "adb devices" then none of the rest of the commands are going to work,resulting in the "main version higher" error since the misc img isnt being re written

make sure you have usb debugging checked,and you have the phone in charge only mode. if you do,then you prolly dont have the drivers installed.
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yup when i started the whole thing i made sure that i checked usb debugging. what drivers do i need? the htc sync ones?
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unrevokeds drivers should work. link is in the first post
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oh the ones so that i can see the phone in device manager? i went through that too. the GB ruu exe starts up but then tells me i need at least 30% battery. when i started this i had a full battery and i don't think it would have gone down that fast. guess i will just try again tomorrow after its plugged in all day and if it says the same thing i will take it to the store to have it charged
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will your phone not boot after pulling the battery on the black screen? if not,just leave it off and plugged in for a couple hours. that should charge you enuff to runthe RUU
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it pops up a white screen that says htc incredible and stays like that for like 20 seconds and then makes a buzzing sound kind of like a camera zoom and then the screen either goes completely black or black with white on the sides.
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ahh. leave it plugged in while off a couple hours and you should be good to go to run the ruu. worse case,you may have to take your battery to vzw to charge for you
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alrighty. thanks for your help!
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well the store didn't have any phones to charge it in and no other ways either. when i checked it this morning after having been plugged in during the night, it had a green light. when i plugged it into the computer the light was red again. maybe i just totally messed it up. oops
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maybe your battery is shot? or maybe its just not getting anuff of a charge with the rom not working. if you can find a way to charge your battery you should be good to go,nothing youve done should have resulted in parmanent damage.
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alright. i found a wall charger that you just put the battery in on amazon for like 5 bucks so i guess i will try that out. i sure hope its just a problem with charging
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Hello everyone. I am new here. I am trying to reroot my phone. I was trying to get the newest update to happen and was unable to. So I removed the root and turned s back on.. Well after the update I was not able to reroot. I should of read the fourms before doing this. I would of left it alone and rooted in the first place. Well I was reading the fourms here and was able to get my super user permission installed by following steps from scoyyt85. But would like s-off. I am confused by this part.extract the mini-adb_inc .zip. place the extracted folder on the root of your c\ drive. it comtains mtd0,flash_image,and some adb tools. does this mean I take the 8 folders and place them into the c drive of my computer??????? Because if so I can't get the command to reconize the commands when I copy the bold text.
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you certainly would have saved yourself alot of headache if youd read the forum first and followed advices to leave s-off. rerooting would have been easy if you werent now stuck with an s-on hboot.

as for your file prollem,you will download mini-adb_inc.zip and unzip or extact it. windows 7 you may be able to right click,then click extract. with other OS you may need a utility such as 7-zip.

this should leave you with a regular,non-zipped folder called mini-adb_inc. just take this folder and drag and drop,or copy and paste,or use whatever means your comfortable moving files and place it on your C drive,not inside any folders.

then when you open your command window,and enter cd c:\mini-adb_inc your prompt should change to: "mini-adb_inc>" indicating that youve successfully changed to that directory.

if you get an erroro message instead,you have either:
1)placed the non-zipped folder somewhere other than the root of C
2)not unzipped the folder
3)inadvertantly changed or not correctly typed the name of the non-zipped folder. just make sure the <file name> matches what your folder is called when typing in cd c:\<file name>

once youve successfully unzipped and placed the folder in the right spot,and changed to it in the command window,the "md5 sums" commands should work,as those files are contained within the folder.

in order for the other commands to work,youll need to have installed drivers at some point in doing this,or for prior projects. make sure "usb debugging" is checked on. since you got unrevoked 3.22 to work,you should have working drivers,and everything should go smoothly from this point.

just make sure to read the notes on flashing PB31IMG files,as thats the biggest issue folks seem tohave with the downgrade.

hope that helps
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Morning everyone, I followed the instructions in the OP on this post and have gotten my Inc1 rooted and s-off.

Excellent, and thank you!!!

One question I have though (and I wonder if there's not something I missed, even though it all seems to be working), is what to do with the constant reminders/nags about the system update that's now available?

I'm guessing Verizon noticed I wasn't 2.3.4 anymore.....


And diggin enough through the thread, I found my answer.

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As for your question,if you're now rooted and running clockwork recovery,the update will not actually work. Your best bet to avoid constantly seeing it is to flash a custom rom.
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Hey when i try to do this root i plug my phone in to do the unrevoked 3.22 and it will do its thing for a while, and then it will say "Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try Again." and then it will reboot my phone to a screen that says ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0 and it has some options i have tried redoing the the unrevoked but it always does this. Also i am pretty sure i installed the drivers correctly. can someone help me I am a noob in this kind of stuff
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any updates?
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Hey when i try to do this root i plug my phone in to do the unrevoked 3.22 and it will do its thing for a while, and then it will say "Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try Again." and then it will reboot my phone to a screen that says ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0 and it has some options i have tried redoing the the unrevoked but it always does this. Also i am pretty sure i installed the drivers correctly. can someone help me I am a noob in this kind of stuff

if youre getting a screen that says clockwork mod recovery v5.0.2.0 then youre almost there! have you checked to see if the superuser app is in your app drawer? the process may have completed,despite the error message.

if the su app is indeed missing,no worry,just grab the superuser .zip file in the other sticky(regain root with s-off) and flash that in clockwork mod recovery. you will need to place it on the root of your sd card,then use the menu options in clockwork to flash it(wipe cache and dalvik cache for good measure). you will navigate clockwork with the optic trackpad thingy. push it to select(not the power button )

once youve successfully flashed superuser and hes working and grantiing permissions,you can continue on to get s-off
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I've tried this a few times on my DINC and I can't get it rooted. Unrevoked works fine, it loads the clockwork recovery image and the device reboots, I see the screen during this process and unrevoked says root worked. However, when I reboot, no go.

One thing to note, after unrevoked says it is good, clockwork does throw an error that I found is because it didn't mount the SD card... it doesn't seem to affect it, though. I did do a backup and that worked.

My main thought at this point is my version. I just purchased this phone and it came with

However, it wants to do an OTA update - "Android Software Update (4.08.605.2)" - 8.6MB, and I'm wondering if that should be applied before this root process will work properly.

The Android version is 2.3.4 - build 4.06.605.3

Any thoughts on how I can resolve this?

Thanks so much for posting this information and helping us all out - it is greatly appreciated.
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I've tried this a few times on my DINC and I can't get it rooted. Unrevoked works fine, it loads the clockwork recovery image and the device reboots, I see the screen during this process and unrevoked says root worked. However, when I reboot, no go.

One thing to note, after unrevoked says it is good, clockwork does throw an error that I found is because it didn't mount the SD card... it doesn't seem to affect it, though. I did do a backup and that worked.

My main thought at this point is my version. I just purchased this phone and it came with

However, it wants to do an OTA update - "Android Software Update (4.08.605.2)" - 8.6MB, and I'm wondering if that should be applied before this root process will work properly.

The Android version is 2.3.4 - build 4.06.605.3

Any thoughts on how I can resolve this?

Thanks so much for posting this information and helping us all out - it is greatly appreciated.
Before I tried rooting mine I thought it would be a good idea to be up to date on updates so I did a factory reset (I knew there was an OTA from Oct. that never installed because of low space) Once I did the reset, the update installed right away to 4.08.605.2 I then rooted the phone. Dont know if that made a difference or not. Plus I wasn't planning on downgrading.
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Before I tried rooting mine I thought it would be a good idea to be up to date on updates so I did a factory reset (I knew there was an OTA from Oct. that never installed because of low space) Once I did the reset, the update installed right away to 4.08.605.2 I then rooted the phone. Dont know if that made a difference or not. Plus I wasn't planning on downgrading.
That is very helpful - I'm thinking I need to do that update and will do so shortly and report back. Thanks!
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ruh roh - decided to install the update and do a factory reset before trying to root again. Now, when it boots I get a message saying "system UID inconsistent" Anyone got any tips on how to resolve this?

O shoot - It just asked me to apply the same android update (4.08.605.2) so it must not have done so last time. I tried again and it just says rebooting now... and sits there. Any way to know what it is or isn't doing? I'll just wait and see what happens.

And, what might this indicate? Why would this happen?
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one more data point: I can still load into clockwork 5.0.2.0 per the instructions, but after loading it says (and always has):

waiting for SD card to mount (20s)
card mounted
verifying SD card marker
SD card marker not found
checking internal sd card marker
error verifying extendedcommand
error processing ROM manager script. Please verify you have ROM manager v4.4.0.0 or higher installed
/tmp/recover.log was copied to /sdcard/clockworkmod/recovery.log. please open Rom manager to report the issue

Any ideas on this issue or how it may be related...?

Thanks again.
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Update: I no longer have the UID issue. No matter how many times I did a factory reset via droid, no go. I did one via clockwork and that fixed it.

Now I'm stuck at trying to apply the 4.08 update (seems many people are) and will keep trying per Second GB Update/Patch Won't Reboot Issue - SOLVED! - Page 4 - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com
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Stop. Don't do anything else until I've had a chance to read thru your posts and comment.
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dandidit, not sure if I'm too late, but if you're still running 4.06, you don't actually need to follow the instructions on this post! Simply avoid running the update, go to unREVoked's site, and follow the directions from there.
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no, you are not too late... I'm still on .06

Also, is it important that this phone is not currently activated? That shouldn't matter, should it?
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As far as I know, no. I've read where people simply use the DINC as a mp3 with wifi, similar to an iPod Touch, and are still obtaining root.
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Thanks, gkinsella2. I'm going to wait to see what Scotty says...
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oh my... where to start

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I've tried this a few times on my DINC and I can't get it rooted. Unrevoked works fine, it loads the clockwork recovery image and the device reboots, I see the screen during this process and unrevoked says root worked. However, when I reboot, no go.

what do you mean,"a no go"? do you mean that you dont have the superuser app in your app drawer? or it just isnt granting permissions?

if the superuser app is missing,simply follow the directions in post #730. you have a custom recovery,youre in good shape. you dont need to run unrevoked more times,or accept updates.

if you mean that SU isnt granting permissions,you do need to try and run some root only apps. titanium backup,root explorer,rom manager,are all apps that will request SU permissions. once youve tried a couple and they fail,go to setting/applications/manage apps/superuser and clear its data. it should work after that.



My main thought at this point is my version. I just purchased this phone and it came with

However, it wants to do an OTA update - "Android Software Update (4.08.605.2)" - 8.6MB, and I'm wondering if that should be applied before this root process will work properly.
The Android version is 2.3.4 - build 4.06.605.3

this method works after doing this update,but the update is in no way shape or form required.

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ruh roh - decided to install the update and do a factory reset before trying to root again. Now, when it boots I get a message saying "system UID inconsistent" Anyone got any tips on how to resolve this?
as youve figured out,you just needed to do a factory reset in recovery
O shoot - It just asked me to apply the same android update (4.08.605.2) so it must not have done so last time. I tried again and it just says rebooting now... and sits there. Any way to know what it is or isn't doing? I'll just wait and see what happens.

you are now running clockwork recovery,wich is effectively blocking your OTA. you need a stock recovery to accept an OTA update.
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one more data point: I can still load into clockwork 5.0.2.0 per the instructions, but after loading it says (and always has):

waiting for SD card to mount (20s)
card mounted
verifying SD card marker
SD card marker not found
checking internal sd card marker
error verifying extendedcommand
error processing ROM manager script. Please verify you have ROM manager v4.4.0.0 or higher installed
/tmp/recover.log was copied to /sdcard/clockworkmod/recovery.log. please open Rom manager to report the issue

Any ideas on this issue or how it may be related...?

i wouldnt really worry about this right now. its not affecting anything.

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Update: I no longer have the UID issue. No matter how many times I did a factory reset via droid, no go. I did one via clockwork and that fixed it.
the "factory reset" option in the setting menu is connected to the stock recovery. using it now,wont do anything. as you found,you must manually do things in clockwork.

Now I'm stuck at trying to apply the 4.08 update (seems many people are) and will keep trying per Second GB Update/Patch Won't Reboot Issue - SOLVED! - Page 4 - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com

again,you cant install the update with while running clockwork. your best bet is continue the process and achieve s-off. you can then flash a custom rom based on the 4.08 ota. you will have a much better experience this way,as the basic code is the same,with a few tweeks to make it better.
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dandidit, not sure if I'm too late, but if you're still running 4.06, you don't actually need to follow the instructions on this post! Simply avoid running the update, go to unREVoked's site, and follow the directions from there.

unless im misunderstanding what youre saying here,you do need the directions here to root/downgrade/reroot. the 4.06 update to GB 2.3.4 broke the "rage against the cage" exploit that unrevoked forever uses.
so to recap,and further assist you,you need to answer:

what do you mean root is "a no go"?
1)do you mean that you dont have the superuser app in your app drawer?
or
2)superuser is there but not working
or
3)something different?
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Quick question: If I had root, should S-on be S-off? It is currently and has always been S-on

I'm not exactly sure what superuser in my app drawer should look like - I've got superuser permissions, but it is blank when I launch it. In the past it did have some other information in it, but it was all greyed out...

I'll try installing the other apps and see what happens.
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ok, I didn't have a superuser app, but I did install rom manager, updated it and I'm running a backup of my current rom right now. It did say I needed root to install and it requested access and it said it worked, so it seems I have root. It wasn't clear to me about the whole S-on S-off setting. Can you explain what that means in regards to having root? Is that not a 1:1 relationship with root / non-root ?

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alright, I'm further along. I completed the mini-adb steps, had to SU (phone did the popup and I allowed) and I'm getting ready to do the boot, but not until it charges up more. I appreciate the help and will update shortly.
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Quick question: If I had root, should S-on be S-off? It is currently and has always been S-on
unless youve performend the steps to dongrade and reroot with unrevoked,then you should be s-on.

the whole point of this guide is to downgrade gingerbread back to froyo so that unrevoked 3 can be run,and s-off achieved

in a nutshell: s-off stands for security off. its a flag in the radio that tells the bootloader wether or not it needs to perform checks for htc signatures before letting it flash.

this offers several advantages: being able to flash radios and recoveries easily in hboot,as well as being able to downgrade firmware if you want,without performing a bunch of steps and adb commands.

being s-off,as long as you dont randomly,haphazzardly flash things,is IMO much safer,as it allows more options to recovery a soft-bricked phone.

from the sounds of your other posts,you are indeed rooted

with the adb commands,just make sure each command gives the same output as in my codebox in the first post. then make sure youve read and understood the notes on flashing the PB31IMG file,since this is a common prollem folks have.

been a long day,and ive got some stuff to do before i crash,but ill try and watch your progress
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Total rooting newbie here. I have a bone stock DInc with 2.3.4 and 4.08. If I want to root ONLY does the process wipe my phone? Do I need to copy my SD card and phone memory to a folder to replace everything afterwards?

Thinking of giving this a go tonight. Just follow the directions in the OP?
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still waiting for the charger to get here probably another week or so...if this doesnt work i get to go back to my old original ENV until i can scrape together enough for a new phone
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Total rooting newbie here. I have a bone stock DInc with 2.3.4 and 4.08. If I want to root ONLY does the process wipe my phone? Do I need to copy my SD card and phone memory to a folder to replace everything afterwards?

Thinking of giving this a go tonight. Just follow the directions in the OP?
the only reason you should need to back up your sd card,is if you find it to be formatted FAT,or something else,and need to reformat it FAT32. otherwise its contents are safe,but feel free to back them up for some peace of mind.

running unrevoked 3.22 should give you root access with s-on,and will not wipe your phone. technically you could stop there,but IMO its well worth the effort to continue the process and become s-off. if you make a nandroid backup prior to downgrading,you will be able to restore it after downgrading and achieving s-off.

so in the end,you CAN do this without losing any of your setup and data,as long as you make the backup.
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still waiting for the charger to get here probably another week or so...if this doesnt work i get to go back to my old original ENV until i can scrape together enough for a new phone
youre not near dayton,oh are you? id be happy to let you come over and pop a good battery in and run the RUU to get you up and going if you were close
enuff to do so.
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