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Old May 31st, 2012, 06:38 PM   #1351 (permalink)
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Do I really have to downgrade to 2.2?
Only if you want s-off (an unlocked bootloader). Which gives you the ability to change radios, hboots, downgrade system images, and modify system files while booted(like the build.prop).

If you just want root access, then you don't have to downgrade, but it is well worth the extra effort to downgrade and get s-off.

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Only if you want s-off (an unlocked bootloader). Which gives you the ability to change radios, hboots, downgrade system images, and modify system files while booted(like the build.prop).

If you just want root access, then you don't have to downgrade, but it is well worth the extra effort to downgrade and get s-off.
So I can't edit build.prop without downgrading? That's the whole reason why I'm rooting. So if you just root without s off, what can you do with that? All I'm rooting for is to play gameloft games.

Hey also, I went on File Droid lite app and it let me explore through everything in my phone. Then it let me into the System folder and I found my build.prop file! How come I can access my system folder? I'm not even rooted.
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So I can't edit build.prop without downgrading? That's the whole reason why I'm rooting. So if you just root without s off, what can you do with that? All I'm rooting for is to play gameloft games.

Hey also, I went on File Droid lite app and it let me explore through everything in my phone. Then it let me into the System folder and I found my build.prop file! How come I can access my system folder? I'm not even rooted.
Yeah, you can see some system files without being rooted, but can't change them, and then when you have root, you will be able to see more system files, but can't modify them in a booted state without s-off. You also need a root capable file explorer, like "ES file explorer"(ES file explorer has an option in the settings to enable root access viewing) or "root explorer"

So, with root but without s-off, you just can't edit system files while booted, it would have to be done while in fastboot, or recovery, through ADB (android debug bridge), and if you are gonna go through the trouble of installing ADB, you might as well downgrade and get s-off.
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Thank you very much everyone! After months of reading this thread and gathering the tools, checking the other threads, then re-reading this one and checking comments, I finally took the first step. I registered just to say thank you, and to share some of my experiences following the guide.

My Dinc is Hardware version 0003, running 2.3.4 build 4.08.605.2 (which took quite a while to get, but solved the low memory problems).

My goal was to just get Superuser so I could install a few root apps like Barnacle, and delete some of the Verizon bloatware. I probably will try out custom ROMs eventually, but one step at a time.

One step I almost missed was installing the unrevoked USB drivers. Thank goodness I re-read many times. I also almost got confused as to whether to perform this procedure while in HBoot or not (as following the directions sequentially could lead to that conclusion). I deduced that the warnings about verifying "USB debugging" and all meant I needed to boot the phone up.

A later poster mistook the clockwork "hat and arrow" graphic for a freeze. I made the same mistake, but then saw that I too had hit "power" instead of "trackball". I assumed I was supposed to select "power down" (which I did).

Upon booting the phone up, SU did indeed appear in my app drawer. However, "clear data" was greyed out for me as well. I assumed that since the instructions say "alternatively... boot checker or root only app", that I could skip actually flashing the new clockwork.

I did download ROM Manager, and Barnacle. I got Barnacle set up and connected my laptop, so it seems I was successful.

I fully intend to finish the clockwork flash later. It sounds like I have to do that before I can use the "create backup" option? I plan to get Titanium Backup Pro prior to flashing clockwork and make a few backups before continuing.

So that is my experience so far. Thank you so much for these guides! I look forward to more fun with my phone, and possibly our (wife's) xoom, and in a few months, my TF700T.
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it sounds from your comments about the hat graphic and icon that you allready have clockwork. if thats the case,then you dont need to do anything else. go ahead and make a backup.

just a couple of things:
-be careful what you backup and restore with titanium. trying to restore system data across roms can lead to force closes and fustration,i personally recomend to only use titanium for apps/app data. also,if you think youll be a flashoholic,get the paid version,its well worth the $7,since it lets you do batch backup and restores.
-i would not really reccomend using rom manager,it seems to hurt more than it helps in some situations. remember rom manager is an app,in a functional,working rom,and as such,will not be available if youre stuck in a bootloop
i would very strongly reccomend becoming comfortable using the menus in clockwork to manually wipe/backup/flash. at that point,you can use rom manager if you wich,as youll then have the skills to go to recovery and manually fix bootloops,hangs,or unfunctional roms.
-i get the impression you havent donwgraded and s-offed yet. if youre happy with how things work,nothing wrong with staying there,but id consider after a few days consider finishing the guide and achieving s-off,it looks a lil scary,but is a pretty easy process once you start doing it,and in the long run offers many advantages.

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{{{it sounds from your comments about the hat graphic and icon that you allready have clockwork. if thats the case,then you dont need to do anything else. go ahead and make a backup}}}

The directions in the OP had a note that said that for slcd users, this version of unrevoked was giving us an "old, non-compatible version of clockwork,so you will just see a black screen if you do not install newer clockwork as described above"

Shall I assume that because I did not get a black screen, and because I saw the hat graphic, that I have a version of clockwork that works for me? Or is the only way to know for sure when I actually try to boot into it again, or make a backup?

I will definitely buy the pro key. I figure I'll make a few backups. One "everything" backup, and then one of just apps and app data as advised.

I wanted to read more about making backups before trying it. Once I do that, I'll give it a shot and see what happens. It would be great if I didn't have to change the version of clockwork as indicated in the OP.
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I was reading the guides on xda about nandroid and removing bloatware. It said that one could boot into clockworkmod by powering down, then holding power and vol down. That just put me into HBoot. I let it sit for a moment, but nothing changed, so I chose "power down" and rebooted normally.

Did I access something incorrectly? Or do i just need to follow the instructions for flashing clockwork with Rom manager?
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I'm researching this now. Somehow I doubt its really as simple as opening ROM Manager and pressing the "flash clockworkmod recovery" button...
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{{{it sounds from your comments about the hat graphic and icon that you allready have clockwork. if thats the case,then you dont need to do anything else. go ahead and make a backup}}}

The directions in the OP had a note that said that for slcd users, this version of unrevoked was giving us an "old, non-compatible version of clockwork,so you will just see a black screen if you do not install newer clockwork as described above"

Shall I assume that because I did not get a black screen, and because I saw the hat graphic, that I have a version of clockwork that works for me? Or is the only way to know for sure when I actually try to boot into it again, or make a backup?

I will definitely buy the pro key. I figure I'll make a few backups. One "everything" backup, and then one of just apps and app data as advised.

I wanted to read more about making backups before trying it. Once I do that, I'll give it a shot and see what happens. It would be great if I didn't have to change the version of clockwork as indicated in the OP.
yup,if you saw the hat graphic,you are running a compaitble version. you followed the directions to direct unrevoked to a newer clockwork,wich is compatible. this guide has been some what of a "work in progress" and has chaged a few times as we figured things out. if you let unrevoked 3.21 install the cw that its packed with,then you would have had the black screen.

but sounds like youre good to go go ahead and boot to cw,and chose the option to make a backup(i dont run cw so i cant remember wat the menu options are)

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I was reading the guides on xda about nandroid and removing bloatware. It said that one could boot into clockworkmod by powering down, then holding power and vol down. That just put me into HBoot. I let it sit for a moment, but nothing changed, so I chose "power down" and rebooted normally.

Did I access something incorrectly? Or do i just need to follow the instructions for flashing clockwork with Rom manager?
from hboot,you need to select recovery with the power button and vol rocker. this will take you to either your stock recovery,or a custom recovery if installed.

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I'm researching this now. Somehow I doubt its really as simple as opening ROM Manager and pressing the "flash clockworkmod recovery" button...
if you are rooted,then its that simple. if not,then yes,its a lil more complicated

if youre s-off,then you just need to install clockwork as a PB31IMG,then flash root files(theres another guide stickied with more specific directions)

if your s-on,on froyo: run unrevoked 3.31

s-on,on GB:
-use this guide and unrevoked 3.21
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-use the other sticky guide to unlock via htcdev

either way,id reccomend to follow the whole procedure and become s-off. especially with htcdev,its not a true,full unlock,so just use it as means to root and downgrade,then s-off.

hope that helps
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Yeah, you can see some system files without being rooted, but can't change them, and then when you have root, you will be able to see more system files, but can't modify them in a booted state without s-off. You also need a root capable file explorer, like "ES file explorer"(ES file explorer has an option in the settings to enable root access viewing) or "root explorer"

So, with root but without s-off, you just can't edit system files while booted, it would have to be done while in fastboot, or recovery, through ADB (android debug bridge), and if you are gonna go through the trouble of installing ADB, you might as well downgrade and get s-off.
Is ADB hard to install and understand? Since I'm just gonna modify one file and then never modify anything else ever again, I think ADB seems like the thing I should do, unless it's too hard. Which is easier to do, ADB or Downgrading and getting S Off?
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Im getting a TL-Bootstrap.exe error after i flash clockwork. unrevoked says booting into recovery. clocikwork loads and gives me all the options in blue. Then the error pops up and nothing happens. The only info ive found about it is that it has something to do with the verizon sync thing but i dont have that installed on my pc.
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Im getting a TL-Bootstrap.exe error after i flash clockwork. unrevoked says booting into recovery. clocikwork loads and gives me all the options in blue. Then the error pops up and nothing happens. The only info ive found about it is that it has something to do with the verizon sync thing but i dont have that installed on my pc.
You don't have htc sync on your computer?
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Hey guys, I might jump ship to Galaxy s3 in order to keep my current plan. Question if you knew if rooting the Samsung phones is similar to rooting my Incredible.
I almost hate to leave HTC because if the awesome support from you guys.

Finally, if switching to another phone, is getting s-off still important, do you think Verizon will push another update?

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Im getting a TL-Bootstrap.exe error after i flash clockwork. unrevoked says booting into recovery. clocikwork loads and gives me all the options in blue. Then the error pops up and nothing happens. The only info ive found about it is that it has something to do with the verizon sync thing but i dont have that installed on my pc.
is this message on the phone screen or the cmd window?

are you able to pull the batter with the phone not connected to the pc,and get to recovery?

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Hey guys, I might jump ship to Galaxy s3 in order to keep my current plan. Question if you knew if rooting the Samsung phones is similar to rooting my Incredible.
I almost hate to leave HTC because if the awesome support from you guys.

Finally, if switching to another phone, is getting s-off still important, do you think Verizon will push another update?

Sent from my Incredible.
Aw yeah.
if its got an unlocked bootloader like the gnex,its pretty painless,and actually allows access to all partitions,unlike htcdev

that said,there is an s-off method for the rezound,wich may work for the inc 4g(i need to research that)

i had a galaxy nexus,and as badly as i wanted to love it,i am too big an htc fan to warm up to it. ended up trading it for a dev rezound.
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I haven't opened any cmd Windows yet. The bootstrap error pops up on my pc while unrevoked is doing its this. TL-Bootstrap.exe has incountered a problem and needs to close. I'm using an older laptop running xp. I am able to get into recovery with the phone unplugged.
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if youre able to get to recovery,youre good to go. just flash superuser in recovery,if its not allready in your app drawer. superuser 3.0.7
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Thanks Scotty! I am at long last rooted with s-off.
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Hey when i try to do this root i plug my phone in to do the unrevoked 3.22 and it will do its thing for a while, and then it will say "Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try Again." and then it will reboot my phone to a screen that says ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0 and it has some options i have tried redoing the the unrevoked but it always does this. Also i am pretty sure i installed the drivers correctly. can someone help me I am a noob in this kind of stuff
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if youre getting a screen that says clockwork mod recovery v5.0.2.0 then youre almost there! have you checked to see if the superuser app is in your app drawer? the process may have completed,despite the error message.

if the su app is indeed missing,no worry,just grab the superuser .zip file in the other sticky(regain root with s-off) and flash that in clockwork mod recovery. you will need to place it on the root of your sd card,then use the menu options in clockwork to flash it(wipe cache and dalvik cache for good measure). you will navigate clockwork with the optic trackpad thingy. push it to select(not the power button )

once youve successfully flashed superuser and hes working and grantiing permissions,you can continue on to get s-off
So I had the same problem as the user above and used the suggested method from scotty by placing the superuser zip file on the sdcard and installing it from the clockwork recovery. I've wiped the cache and dalvik cache and I am now stuck in a boot loop. Any suggestions?
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if you have a backup,you can wipe and restore it,or you can flash a rom,and have the advantage of being rooted so you can procede

im out of touch with inc 1 roms,but im sure there are rooted stock GB and froyo if youd rather go that route.
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if you have a backup,you can wipe and restore it,or you can flash a rom,and have the advantage of being rooted so you can procede

im out of touch with inc 1 roms,but im sure there are rooted stock GB and froyo if youd rather go that route.
since i wasn't thinking ahead and didn't make a backup/restore point, I ended up going into panic mode and used the thread of unrooting your phone back to stock gingerbread. That worked, but i lost all of my apps and settings
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Ok im sorry im a bit confused i have to downgrade to 2.2 and get s-off in order to have root access to 2.3.4??
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Ok im sorry im a bit confused i have to downgrade to 2.2 and get s-off in order to have root access to 2.3.4??
you can get access to boot and system in 2.3.4.

you have to dowgrade to get s-off.

s off is better in many,many ways. it allows complete access to all partitions,giving the ability to chage hboots,radios,and downgrade firmware versions(the ability to run ANY factory software you want can be a benefit if the phone becomes "soft bricked")

id pretty strongly recomend to go thru the complete process and achieve s off.

if you have any issues getting unrevoked to run,there is a guide to complete the process using htcdev instead
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question, i heard that verizon is sending out another OTA, over the air update for the Incredible.

Will that take away our root? do i definitely need to do this s-off in order to keep my root?
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Will that take away our root? do i definitely need to do this s-off in order to keep my root?

You won't be able to install the update if you are rooted(it will fail due to the custom recovery). Though, I'm sure it will be integrated into a stock rom that you can install.
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Hey everyone, I'm Doug... first time poster. AWESOME write up, Scotty.






Disregard. My problem does appear to be stemming from the fact I'm on Win8.
The drivers installed flawlessly on my Win7 machine.

Either way, thanks again Scotty for getting me through this!
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awsome! makes me happy its working for everybody without much issue.

i think later today,ill add to the second post a method that uses the new zergRush tool linked above,for the folks that dont care about a backup,or for some reason(like me) the old unrevoked wouldnt worked. i think the zergRush should work for everyone.

I am having trouble getting the zergrush tool from xda keep getting explorer cant display website requires me to login??
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Now that I've upgraded to a 4G phone to save my unlimited data & hotspot, my old Incredible is available to experiment with root (always too cowardly before). I use the Incredible on WiFi-only.

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, but all of the instructions I've read seem to be Windows-centric. I am definitely not any kind of Ubuntu expert, but I can follow directions and cut-and-paste in Terminal.

Do you have any recommendations for where I can find clear directions to root my Gingerbread Incredible using Ubuntu?

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I am having trouble getting the zergrush tool from xda keep getting explorer cant display website requires me to login??
the newest zergrush tool is included in the mini-adb_inc download in the OP. along with the newest clockwork.

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Now that I've upgraded to a 4G phone to save my unlimited data & hotspot, my old Incredible is available to experiment with root (always too cowardly before). I use the Incredible on WiFi-only.

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, but all of the instructions I've read seem to be Windows-centric. I am definitely not any kind of Ubuntu expert, but I can follow directions and cut-and-paste in Terminal.

Do you have any recommendations for where I can find clear directions to root my Gingerbread Incredible using Ubuntu?

TIA
sorry,there is no specific guide that i know of. there are several generic writeups on getting adb working on ubuntu,and then a little bit of research on wether or not any commands need modded.

only prollem is that youll then be stuck with zergrush or htcdev,if that matters,as i do not believe we have a linux version of unrevoked 3.22

you could try sending this guy a message,looks like he used ubuntu. he may have some advice for you for getting it working: [How To] Root 2.3.4/downgrade and Get S-off
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Only if you want s-off (an unlocked bootloader). Which gives you the ability to change radios, hboots, downgrade system images, and modify system files while booted(like the build.prop).

If you just want root access, then you don't have to downgrade, but it is well worth the extra effort to downgrade and get s-off.
Unrevoked forever states the following about radio baseband versions and mine is not listed. Does this mean unrevoked forever will not work on my phone, and I am dead in the water? mine is 2.15.10.12.20.
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Hi, I'm having a really tough time getting anything to work at this point.
My droid incredible had been replaced due to a defective charging port within the phone

The phone I have now uses 2.3.4

but the build number is newer than most people are posting on this thread.

I'm using 4.08.605.15

It doesn't seem to be syncing up to the unrevoked 3.21 or 3.22 at all >

I'd really appreciate some guidance on where to go with this one
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Unrevoked forever states the following about radio baseband versions and mine is not listed. Does this mean unrevoked forever will not work on my phone, and I am dead in the water? mine is 2.15.10.12.20.
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    • 2.05.00.06.11
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    • 2.15.00.07.28
    • 2.15.00.09.01

Correct, you need to downgrade your phone to 2.2 to get s-off.
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Ok, I am TOTALLY confused here. I tried the first steps of even getting unrevoked to work and it said "unable to flash custom recovery image". I don't have HTC Sync on my computer. I just got 2 weeks ago an OTA update on my stock Incredible running 2.3.4 build number 4.08.605.15 710RD and radio 2.15.10.12.20

Do i have to downgrade before doing anything else?
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Hi, I'm having a really tough time getting anything to work at this point.
My droid incredible had been replaced due to a defective charging port within the phone

The phone I have now uses 2.3.4

but the build number is newer than most people are posting on this thread.

I'm using 4.08.605.15

It doesn't seem to be syncing up to the unrevoked 3.21 or 3.22 at all >

I'd really appreciate some guidance on where to go with this one
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Ok, I am TOTALLY confused here. I tried the first steps of even getting unrevoked to work and it said "unable to flash custom recovery image". I don't have HTC Sync on my computer. I just got 2 weeks ago an OTA update on my stock Incredible running 2.3.4 build number 4.08.605.15 710RD and radio 2.15.10.12.20

Do i have to downgrade before doing anything else?
you guys can try gaining temp root with zergrush(method in post 2),or with the htc supertool (htc supertool )

using the supertool to prep,then perm root may let you install rom manager,then clockwork if your main desire is to make a backup. with permanent root from htc supertool,you should be able to download and run titanium,also,wich will make resetting up easier.

or you can use the other thread to use htcdev unlock.
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I tried the zergrush route
everything seemed to go smooth but superuser doesn't show up
and I still haven't got anything to unlock
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Hey everyone,

I have spent the last 2 days trying to get both of these methods working to no avail, and I have scoured the internet trying to find solutions to my problems.

I noticed that a lot of people who having been rooting their phones do not have the pink text at the top of their HBOOT that says "*** LOCKED ***", so I went out and found the htcdev location where I could download the software to unlock it. After hours fighting with that application giving me the 107 errror "no usb cord attached" I finally was able to downgrade my HBOOT to 1.02 (which I believe was needed for this).

So here is where I am at, and the questions I have.

1. At the top of my HBOOT it now says "*** LOCKED (oow) ***" which is what it changed to after using the htcdev tool. Is this where it should be? Or do I need to do something to fully unlock this first before proceeding to get root.

2. Trying to use unrevoked is either giving me "can not get root, firmware may be to new", or it is just sitting there saying "Waiting for reboot..."

3. Trying to use zergRush is giving me "[-] Hellions with BLUE flames !"

Baseband version: 2.15.10.12.20
Android version: 2.3.4
HBOOT version: 1.02

Thanks for any help!!!
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Hey everyone,

I have spent the last 2 days trying to get both of these methods working to no avail, and I have scoured the internet trying to find solutions to my problems.

I noticed that a lot of people who having been rooting their phones do not have the pink text at the top of their HBOOT that says "*** LOCKED ***", so I went out and found the htcdev location where I could download the software to unlock it. After hours fighting with that application giving me the 107 errror "no usb cord attached" I finally was able to downgrade my HBOOT to 1.02 (which I believe was needed for this).

So here is where I am at, and the questions I have.

1. At the top of my HBOOT it now says "*** LOCKED (oow) ***" which is what it changed to after using the htcdev tool. Is this where it should be? Or do I need to do something to fully unlock this first before proceeding to get root.

2. Trying to use unrevoked is either giving me "can not get root, firmware may be to new", or it is just sitting there saying "Waiting for reboot..."

3. Trying to use zergRush is giving me "[-] Hellions with BLUE flames !"

Baseband version: 2.15.10.12.20
Android version: 2.3.4
HBOOT version: 1.02

Thanks for any help!!!
Okay I was able to successfully unlock my phone using the instructions found in the htcsupertool. Now I am back to working on trying to get root with the instructions here or there.
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Okay I was able to successfully unlock my phone using the instructions found in the htcsupertool. Now I am back to working on trying to get root with the instructions here or there.
since youre unlocked,simply use the other sticky thread: http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/531353-how-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html

i am starting to think it may be one of the most reliable means of achieving root and s-off,as both unrevoked programs seem a little "finicky" it worked very smoothly on my junk spare inc,on wich unrevoked 3.22 or 3.31 would not run.

just post on that thread if you have further questions
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Hey everyone,

I have spent the last 2 days trying to get both of these methods working to no avail, and I have scoured the internet trying to find solutions to my problems.

I noticed that a lot of people who having been rooting their phones do not have the pink text at the top of their HBOOT that says "*** LOCKED ***", so I went out and found the htcdev location where I could download the software to unlock it. After hours fighting with that application giving me the 107 errror "no usb cord attached" I finally was able to downgrade my HBOOT to 1.02 (which I believe was needed for this).

So here is where I am at, and the questions I have.

1. At the top of my HBOOT it now says "*** LOCKED (oow) ***" which is what it changed to after using the htcdev tool. Is this where it should be? Or do I need to do something to fully unlock this first before proceeding to get root.

2. Trying to use unrevoked is either giving me "can not get root, firmware may be to new", or it is just sitting there saying "Waiting for reboot..."

3. Trying to use zergRush is giving me "[-] Hellions with BLUE flames !"

Baseband version: 2.15.10.12.20
Android version: 2.3.4
HBOOT version: 1.02

Thanks for any help!!!
unfortunaltely,unrevoked can be finicky,and seems to have issue with some phones.

also unfortunately,hellions with blue flames indicate at some point an OTA patched the exploit zergrush used.

for those that dont want to use htcdev,you can try fre3vo. its worked on the thunderbolt,desire hd/inspire,and merge to get temp root.

i will try and get a more detailed guide up in one of the first posts,but in a nutshell:
downloload dhd downgrade folder

open the DHDDowngrade.zip file,then the folder contained inside of it. transfer "Fre3vo" into the mini-adb_inc folder with adb/fastboot.(ignore the rest of the files in DHDDowngrade,fre3vo is the only one you need)

run it with these commands in cmd,on a booted phone:

adb push fre3vo /data/local/tmp

adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/fre3vo

adb shell /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start F0000000 -end FFFFFFFF

make sure it worked. when you see "exploiting device" then your command prompt again:
adb shell (if your prompt changes to a # youre good to go)

this is actually being run on a thunderbolt,but fre3vos use looks basically like this on all devices,with excpetion of the software version where the exploit region is:

Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Scott>cd c:\tbolt2

c:\tbolt2>adb devices
* daemon not running. starting it now *
* daemon started successfully *
List of devices attached
HTxxxxxx    device


c:\tbolt2>adb push fre3vo /data/local/tmp
956 KB/s (9796 bytes in 0.010s)

c:\tbolt2>adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/fre3vo

c:\tbolt2>adb shell /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start F0000000 -end FFFFFFFF
fre3vo by #teamwin
Please wait...
Attempting to modify ro.secure property...
fb_fix_screeninfo:
  id: msmfb
  smem_start: 802160640
  smem_len: 3145728
  type: 0
  type_aux: 0
  visual: 2
  xpanstep: 0
  ypanstep: 1
  line_length: 1920
  mmio_start: 0
  accel: 0
fb_var_screeninfo:
  xres: 480
  yres: 800
  xres_virtual: 480
  yres_virtual: 1600
  xoffset: 0
  yoffset: 0
  bits_per_pixel: 32
  activate: 16
  height: 94
  width: 56
  rotate: 0
  grayscale: 0
  nonstd: 0
  accel_flags: 0
  pixclock: 0
  left_margin: 0
  right_margin: 0
  upper_margin: 0
  lower_margin: 0
  hsync_len: 0
  vsync_len: 0
  sync: 0
  vmode: 0
Buffer offset:      00000000
Buffer size:        8192
Scanning region f0000000...
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Potential exploit area found at address f9fd6200:e00.
Exploiting device...

c:\tbolt2>adb shell
# <-indicates that you have temp root access
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since youre unlocked,simply use the other sticky thread: http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/531353-how-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html

i am starting to think it may be one of the most reliable means of achieving root and s-off,as both unrevoked programs seem a little "finicky" it worked very smoothly on my junk spare inc,on wich unrevoked 3.22 or 3.31 would not run.

just post on that thread if you have further questions
It worked!!! Thank you sooo much scotty, your a good man. I am not rooted with s-off!

One more thing though, can you spell out what s-off gives me, and what unlocking gave me just so I know the difference. I have seen explanations on them but I have never really understood what exactly they unlock.
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htcdev does not allow writing of boot from recovery,so seperate kernel flashes are neccessary. you only have access to boot/system/recovery so you cannot change radios or hboots and you cannot backtrack to older firmware.

s-off allows access to ALL partitions,and allows the boot image to be written from recovery. you can change radios,hboots,and flash older ruus if you wish. it allows more options to recovery a soft bricked phone.

in short, s-off is better.

with it comes greater responsibility. make sure you double and triple check md5s of any file that contains a radio or hboot,as a bad flash of those can leave you with a permanently bricked device
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So everything was working perfectly and I checked all my MD5 hashes and they matched up correctly, but when I run unrevoked (after installing the proper drivers etc.) it goes through a couple reboots and then tells me that it failed to flash memory. I checked to see that htc sync wasn't installed etc. etc. and tried again. Same message. I switched to my dad's new computer which wouldn't have any programs conflicting with the process. Same error message. I tried it several times each time fiddling with things such as turning off Windows autoplay. Still no luck.

I searched this thread for advice and I simply saw the suggestion to switch computers. I can't seem to figure out the zergrush method, I can't find a download for the zergrush program and when I do it's a .c file that doesn't have the correct md5 hash, I feel like I'm doing something wrong. Can you help me with this?

Also, I haven't a decent computer knowledge, however I'm completely new to rooting phones so I am unfamiliar with all the jargon. My eventual goal is to install a WP7 rom onto my Droid Incredible.
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So everything was working perfectly and I checked all my MD5 hashes and they matched up correctly, but when I run unrevoked (after installing the proper drivers etc.) it goes through a couple reboots and then tells me that it failed to flash memory. I checked to see that htc sync wasn't installed etc. etc. and tried again. Same message. I switched to my dad's new computer which wouldn't have any programs conflicting with the process. Same error message. I tried it several times each time fiddling with things such as turning off Windows autoplay. Still no luck.
I had the same problem, with the same specs as Hollowpoint (new phone replacement). After pulling my hair out changing computers, etc., and not being able to use either method 1 or 2, I ran the htcdev method and it worked flawlessly. Thanks Scotty for all of your time and patience!
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So everything was working perfectly and I checked all my MD5 hashes and they matched up correctly, but when I run unrevoked (after installing the proper drivers etc.) it goes through a couple reboots and then tells me that it failed to flash memory. I checked to see that htc sync wasn't installed etc. etc. and tried again. Same message. I switched to my dad's new computer which wouldn't have any programs conflicting with the process. Same error message. I tried it several times each time fiddling with things such as turning off Windows autoplay. Still no luck.

I searched this thread for advice and I simply saw the suggestion to switch computers. I can't seem to figure out the zergrush method, I can't find a download for the zergrush program and when I do it's a .c file that doesn't have the correct md5 hash, I feel like I'm doing something wrong. Can you help me with this?

Also, I haven't a decent computer knowledge, however I'm completely new to rooting phones so I am unfamiliar with all the jargon. My eventual goal is to install a WP7 rom onto my Droid Incredible.
Use this method instead:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/531353-how-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html
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So everything was working perfectly and I checked all my MD5 hashes and they matched up correctly, but when I run unrevoked (after installing the proper drivers etc.) it goes through a couple reboots and then tells me that it failed to flash memory. I checked to see that htc sync wasn't installed etc. etc. and tried again. Same message. I switched to my dad's new computer which wouldn't have any programs conflicting with the process. Same error message. I tried it several times each time fiddling with things such as turning off Windows autoplay. Still no luck.

I searched this thread for advice and I simply saw the suggestion to switch computers. I can't seem to figure out the zergrush method, I can't find a download for the zergrush program and when I do it's a .c file that doesn't have the correct md5 hash, I feel like I'm doing something wrong. Can you help me with this?

Also, I haven't a decent computer knowledge, however I'm completely new to rooting phones so I am unfamiliar with all the jargon. My eventual goal is to install a WP7 rom onto my Droid Incredible.
im not sure i should continue to help you after knowing you want to run a wp7 rom instead of a beautiful android rom



all kidding aside,have you checked to see if unrevoked was able to install clockwork recovery? power the phone off,boot to hboot via vol down+power,and then select recovery from the hboot screen. does it take you to clockwork,or to a red triangle,!,and pic of a phone?

if you get clockwork,you can easily flash superuser 3.0.7 with clockwork,and be rooted. as ive said many times in the thread,the main reason to use unrevoked over another method is to get clockwork recovery installed.rooting is easy once you have a custom recovery.

if you dont have clockwork,and want to try the zergrush method,check the "download these files" step of the OP,and notice that the latest zergrush is included in the mirror. however it appears that at some point an OTA has patched the zergrush exploit(wich may also be why some are having trouble with unrevoked 3.21) so it may or may not work,dep on the state of your phone. if you do get the "hellions with blue flames" message above,you can try fre3vo to get temp root,im pretty sure it will work. directions are a couple posts up,youll just substitute the zergrush commands in post 2 for the fre3vo commands above.

wich brings us to:

im starting to change my mind about htcdev,in that it may actually be the most reliable way to root and downgrade,as its using htcs own unlock method. so far it has worked fine for the few that have used it,and went without a hitch even on my junk spare inc.

the disadvantages are:
-it may void all or parts of your warranty. while if the rooting is successful,all visual signs of htcdev can be removed(i.e. the relocked 1.02.0000 bootloader),the identigier token does contain bits of info uniquie to your phone,and could be kept on file at htc,and as such a warrantly claim could be denied because of it. while personally feel such a scenario is unlikely(htc has better things to do than search each phone it gets back for signs of being rooted),it may be possible and i accept no liabilitys. most incredibles are prolly old enuff that there is no mfg warranty left,anyway.

-it will wipe your data,it will wipe your data,it will wipe your data. did mention it will wipe your data? performing the bootloader unlock will perform a factory reset at the same time. no way around it,currently. at least none that is easy,that i know of.

just holler if you have further questions on any of the methods
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Wooh it worked! However I'm not exactly sure what "it" was. I followed the HTC dev instructions and finished it with s-off and everything. Now I'm wondering, what's the best way to be able to dual boot Windows Phone 7 and my phones default ui?
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the original incredible does not have a ton of memory or ram,and i dont know of a good way to truly "dual boot" any 2 roms. you can easily swap back and forth by restoring nandroids if you want to switch back and forth between them. its fairly quick aND Painless,tho i might suggest using amon recovery if youre going to be doing alot of flashing/backing up/restoring.

have you actually found windows 7 roms for the incredible?if so i wouldnt mind seeing some links
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