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Old November 22nd, 2011, 09:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need to root my phone. Low On Space is driving me crazy and I can't afford a new phone right now.

I don't know how to backup my whole phone, esp. my games, I fear losing many months of progress. I can only see certain folders through Windows Explorer when it's attached to my computer.

I read and re-read the "how to root" topics but the jargon is over my head. I don't know what a flash, rom or mod is. My last computer course was in 1983.
Is there anyone that can help an old person root a phone? I need rooting for dummies and the help topics assume a certain level of knowledge I don't have.


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I'll give this a shot, can't be too hard. First things first!

What do you plan to achieve by rooting your phone, and what version of android are you running currently? To find out go to settings, about phone, software information, and tell me both "Android version" and "Software number".
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Rooting may not help you with your problem. Just something to keep in mind.
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Rooting may not help you with your problem. Just something to keep in mind.

Rooting can definitely fix the low on space bug, a developer has a patch that permanently increases the size of the partition.
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Can you tell me where I can learn more about that? Thanks
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I'll give this a shot, can't be too hard. First things first!

What do you plan to achieve by rooting your phone, and what version of android are you running currently? To find out go to settings, about phone, software information, and tell me both "Android version" and "Software number".
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I waited to answer because I was inquiring about the free HTC incredible 2 offer they had but I'm not eligible.

I want to get rid of Low On Space, I can't send or receive messages when it's most important. I've been saying no to the updates.

I have Android version 2.2
Software number 3.26.605.1

I'd really love to do this to get rid of that problem, I just can't figure it out on my own.
Thanks for your help!
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Okay, then let's give this a shot!

First and foremost, don't rush the process, if you follow the steps exactly there is a 0% chance to brick your phone. It is very rare that a phone will cease to function unless you're trying to achieve that goal.

This will follow the basics of the root thread, but I'll attempt to simplify things and explain what is going on. I apologize if I explain some things in too much detail, I know you said you have a low level of knowledge but I don't mean to offend you with any of these explanations!

If you have htc sync installed on your computer, you'll need to remove that. If you don't know what it is, then you probably don't have it!

Download these drivers needed for your computer to communicate with your phone. Unzip the file by right clicking it and selecting "extract files here".

Now we need to put your phone into hboot to properly install the drivers. hboot is your phone's bootloader that allows you to access recovery and apply 'flash' updates to your phone. Flashing is simply the term used to describe overwriting some part of the phone's system with a new file.

In order to access hboot you'll have to power your phone completely down by holding the power button and selecting the "power off" option. Once your phone is completely off, hold volume down and power until the screen turns on. You should be on a white screen that says 'hboot' at the top.

At this point, plug your phone into your computer. This next part is taken directly from the unrevoked wiki because they explain it really well.

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  • Connect the phone to your Windows machine with a USB cable and wait for the phone to say HBOOT USB PLUG on screen.
  • Open Device Manager.
    • Click Start, then right click on Computer, then click Properties, then click Device Manager.
  • Under Other devices, you should now see the Android 1.0 device, similar to the picture below.



Right click on Android 1.0 and click Update Driver Software. You should then be at the following screen:





Click on Browse my computer for driver software.





  • Click on Browse and select the Android USB Driver folder on on your computer, click ok, then click next.
  • You should get a status bar indicating that the driver is installing. If you get any warnings, just click Ok.
  • Your driver should install and your screen will look like below.





Click Close and make sure Android Bootloader Interface is listed under Android Phone.



On your phone, make sure 'fastboot' is selected and hit power. Select 'reboot' and hit power again.

Download unrevoked3. This is the tool that will apply S-OFF to your hboot, give you clockwork recovery, and root your phone. By default hboot is S-ON, security-on. That means only official files can be flashed to your phone. By turning S-OFF you gain the ability to flash custom files. In this case, clockwork recovery. Clockwork is an advanced recovery that expands on the stock recovery's features and allows you to flash even more files! In this case, superuser (root).

Download the latest clockwork.

Open reflash_package.exe (unrevoked3). Click file and go to "Custome recovery..." and select the 'recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc_PB31IMG.zip' file. This it to make sure unrevoked uses the latest clockwork recovery on your phone.

At this point your phone should be booted up, so go into Settings, Applications, Development, and turn on USB debugging.

Exit back to the home screen and plug your phone in. Select charge only.

Unrevoked should take over and do it's thing. Be patient as your phone will reboot. Wait until unrevoked says it is done!

When it says done, close it and unplug your phone. Open your apps and you should have a 'superuser' app.

Go to Settings, Applications, Development, and turn off USB debugging if it is still on.

Power your phone down again, and boot into hboot by holding volume down + power. At the top it should say S-OFF. If it does, then everything is good to go!

Since you're already in hboot, select 'recovery' and hit power. You'll be greeted by a different recovery than before. This is clockwork!

To navigate, volume up is up, volume down is down, trackpad button is okay, and power is back.

Select 'wipe cache partition' and hit the trackpad button. Select 'yes' and hit the trackpad again to confirm. Do this twice.

Hit the power button to go back, select 'reboot system now' and hit the trackpad again.

Now we need to update your phone to gingerbread! This will give you a feel for what flashing really is and will teach you a bit about your phone.

You'll need to download some files to prepare.

Stock Recovery
Superuser 3.0.7
Gingerbread
Clockwork (you already have this from before!)

We need to make sure your SD card is FAT32, this is a system type that will allow your phone to load the files in hboot.

To do this, plug your phone into your computer and select 'Disk Drive'. Go to "My Computer" and find your SD card. It should be the smaller of the 2 removable drives, usually 1.86 GB in total. Open it, and copy all your files to your desktop so they don't get deleted. Right click the SD card, select 'Format'. A box will pop up, make sure file system says 'FAT32' and select okay. When it is done, copy your files back from your desktop.

In order to update to gingerbread your phone needs to have the stock recovery. Since unrevoked installed clockwork, we're going to have to undo this.

Rename 'Stock-recovery_PB31IMG.zip' to 'PB31IMG.zip'. This is done by right clicking the file and selecting 'rename'. On most computers you will not see the '.zip' part, this is okay. So if you only see 'Stock-recovery_PB31IMG' just rename it to 'PB31IMG'. The '.zip' is just the file extension and is hidden by your system.

Place the newly renamed PB31IMG.zip on your SD card.
(not in any folders).

Power the phone down and enter hboot by holding volume down and power. PB31IMG.zip will be loaded and you will be prompted to install. Navigate with power up/down to select 'yes' and hit the power button.

When it is done, reboot the phone.

When your phone powers on, select 'disk drive' again and remove PB31IMG.zip from your SD card.

Now to apply the update!

Rename '5059e5b6c5b2.OTA_Incredible_C_Gingerbread_S_VERIZ ON_WWE_4.08.605.2-3.26.605.1_release_222220.zip" to 'update.zip'. Same applies as above. You may not see the '.zip' part!

Put update.zip on your SD card.

Power the phone down and enter hboot by holding volume down and power. If not prompted, navigate into recovery and select to update from update.zip. Sometimes this update gives an error and presents you with a red triangle screen. If this happens, press volume up and the power button to get to the menu. Use volume up/down to navigate to 'run update.zip from sdcard' and hit the power button to begin.

Reboot the phone!

This boot up might take a while, because it is loading your new system. Be patient and when it loads up completely, continue with the steps.

Now you're updated to gingerbread, but we need to get back clockwork recovery so we can flash superuser and get root back!

Find
recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc_PB31IMG.zip and rename it to PB31IMG.zip. Select 'disk drive' place it on your SD card.

At this point you have a new feature on your phone called fastboot. We're going to disable this as it prevents entry into hboot. Proceed to Settings/Applications and uncheck it at the bottom.

Power the phone down and enter hboot by holding volume down and power. PB31IMG.zip will be loaded and you will be prompted to install. Navigate with power up/down to select 'yes' and hit the power button. Wait for it to finish, should be very quick. Reboot the phone.


Select disk drive on your phone. Remove PB31IMG.zip from the SD card.

Place Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip on your SD card. You don't need to rename this one!

Power the phone down and enter hboot by holding volume down and power. Navigate into recovery and select 'Install zip from SD card'. Hit the power button. Navigate to yes, and hit the power again to confirm. Reboot the phone.

Select disk drive on your phone. Remove Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip.zip from the SD card.

Check your apps drawer to make sure you have superuser in your app drawer again.

Now you are completely updated to gingerbread, and rooted!

If you have any questions or need anything clarified, feel free to ask. I will attempt to help as best I can to clear anything up.

Once you're done with this, we can see how your phone performs and what we can do about that low on space issue.
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Great explanation mmolitor. Another option that would be less labor intensive would be to root using unrevoked3, then flash a stock GB rom. Could also flash the GB radio in hboot if desired.

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[radio] gb ota radio 2.15.10.07.07 - xda-developers
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Great explanation mmolitor. Another option that would be less labor intensive would be to root using unrevoked3, then flash a stock GB rom. Could also flash the GB radio in hboot if desired.

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Agreed, I'd go with flashing the rooted gb ota ROM and radio after accomplishing root on 2.2
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Wow mmolitor87, fantastic and so labor intensive on YOUR part, I really appreciate your time and help. I'm going to read and re-read a few times to become comfortable first.

I'll also wait to see if you agree with the method-change in the replies or if it'd be better for me to do as originally written. The replies are indeed over my head so please, I'm not offended by potential over-simplification, this is what I need.

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You're very welcome!

The way I explained is completely manual. It keeps your phone's current settings and applications. If that isn't a big deal to you, then you can do as they said.

What they're suggesting is that after you gain S-OFF and root, flash a gingerbread rom. A rom is a complete packaged operating system that a developer makes. Most are based off the current operating system, or ported from other phones.

They suggest you flash the stock gingerbread rom for our phone, which would get you up to date with gingerbread and keep clockwork/root much quicker and in less steps than manually updating like I described above.

If you want to keep your apps and settings and the above method works, then stick to that. If you don't mind setting your phone up again then download this by wildstang over at XDA developers.

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You will no longer be following those directions exact.

We need to make sure your SD card is FAT32, this is a system type that will allow your phone to load the files in hboot.

To do this, plug your phone into your computer and select 'Disk Drive'. Go to "My Computer" and find your SD card. It should be the smaller of the 2 removable drives, usually 1.86 GB in total. Open it, and copy all your files to your desktop so they don't get deleted. Right click the SD card, select 'Format'. A box will pop up, make sure file system says 'FAT32' and select okay. When it is done, copy your files back from your desktop.

Place wildstang83_inc_4.08.605.2_11232011.zip on your SD card. (not in any folders).

Power the phone down and enter hboot by holding volume down and power. Navigate to recovery and hit power to enter.

Once inside clockwork, you want to make a nandroid of your current setup for safety reasons. A nandroid is a backup of your phone that will save every detail on your phone exactly how it is right now in an image file. If you restore from this backup, your phone will go back to every detail of when you made the backup, including text messages.

To make a backup, go to 'Backup & Restore', hit the trackpad, go to 'Backup' and hit the trackpad again! It will take it a bit, when completed hit the power button to go back.

Go to 'wipe cache partition' and hit the trackpad. Select 'yes' and hit the trackpad again. Do this twice.

Go to 'advanced' and hit the trackpad. Go to 'wipe dalvik cache' and hit the trackpad. select 'yes' and hit the trackpad again. Do this twice also.

On the main menu, select 'install zip from sdcard' and hit trackpad. Select
wildstang83_inc_4.08.605.2_11232011.zip and hit the trackpad again. Navigate to YES and hit the trackpad to confirm.

Reboot your system and you can proceed to setup your phone. If you have any issues booting the phone, pull out your battery to power it off and follow the directions again to re-flash the rom. Sometimes they do not take properly, but that is very rare.

I have to go to work now, but I'll be back in the morning. I'm sure iowabowtech and
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I am doing the long version, I'd like to save settings. I downloaded the drivers, the reflash file, and the clockwork. I followed the instructions but somewhere I missed a phone disconnect.
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On your phone, make sure 'fastboot' is selected and hit power. Select 'reboot' and hit power again.

Download unrevoked3. This is the tool that will apply S-OFF to your hboot, give you clockwork recovery, and root your phone. By default hboot is S-ON, security-on. That means only official files can be flashed to your phone. By turning S-OFF you gain the ability to flash custom files. In this case, clockwork recovery. Clockwork is an advanced recovery that expands on the stock recovery's features and allows you to flash even more files! In this case, superuser (root).

Download the latest clockwork.

Open reflash_package.exe (unrevoked3). Click file and go to "Custome recovery..." and select the 'recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc_PB31IMG.zip' file. This it to make sure unrevoked uses the latest clockwork recovery on your phone.

At this point your phone should be booted up, so go into Settings, Applications, Development, and turn on USB debugging.

Exit back to the home screen and plug your phone in. Select charge only.
So, when I double-clicked reflash_package.exe (unrevoked3), I didn't see an option to choose Custom recovery. The unrevoked program was running. The phone rebooted, but the unrevoked window said, "Error, failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?"
I read about this in another thread. I'm thinking I probably should have removed the phone from the laptop at some point but I don't know where.

I'll go read that thread and check back.

(Also my laptop is running WinXP so things are a little bit different, and it kept trying to install new drivers for the phone, I keep saying no and closing the window, could that cause a problem? Thanks.)


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If anyone is awake, I'm at the point of running unrevoked again, but it will only search for an image file, not a zip file, so it can't see the zip. I'm going to try unzipping it and selecting the image file...

EDIT WOOHOO, I have superuser...
But when I boot into HBOOT it says S-ON.
I went ahead and wiped the cache partition twice. I'm stopping here for now. Will wait to figure out S-ON/S-OFF problem before moving on.

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You can proceed without doing that step, you'll get the latest clockwork back later anyways. I just wrote that in to be as up to date as possible for the whole process.

Firmware too new? Have never seen that before. I would try it again. As long as you didnt accept ota updates you should still be on 2.2, if you did accept an update that changes things . If you don't know, make sure under settings and about phone, and software information it still says Android 2.2.
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EDIT WOOHOO, I have superuser...
But when I boot into HBOOT it says S-ON. What did I do wrong? Thanks.

I still have S-ON but I went ahead and wiped the cache partition twice. I'm stopping here for now. Will figure out S-OFF problem before moving on.

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You will just need to go to unrevoked's website and download unrevoked forever. It's just a small file that you would install in recovery.
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So I'm safe to move on without the S-Off?

I don't want to mess up!

I'm still on 2.2 and everything else seems fine.
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Download http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/current/unrevoked-forever.zip and put it on your sdcard. Boot into recovery and flash from zip. At work, so cant detail atm. Just the steps for installing superuser at the end of my detailed post. Just use this file instead.

Do not continue without s-off! It can be very useful later and the process for gaining s-off in gingerbread is very extensive.
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Edit:
Something was wonky, this time I had the option to choose the file from the SD card and it worked fine!

I now have S-Off! Excellent!

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I was about to follow your rooting directions when I saw that you mentioned making sure of having android 2.2. Well... I have android 2.3.4. Can I still root? Oh please tell me yes.
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I was about to follow your rooting directions when I saw that you mentioned making sure of having android 2.2. Well... I have android 2.3.4. Can I still root? Oh please tell me yes.

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Installing Gingerbread was very tricky, many problems due to Low On Space issue.
However, after about 6 tries and deleting moving lots of apps, it worked.
I wound up also selecting the "wipe cache" in the clockwork thing, just in case it would help, knowing that it could have unwanted data loss.

It finally took, about 15 minutes to install Gingerbread. I've lost my app icons but my contacts and messages are intact. Will work on that stuff later.

Thank you so much, hopefully I can keep going until I get rid of Low On Space problem.

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I'm unable to do the last step. When I go into hboot, instead of getting to clockwork, I get a red triangle. So I hit the vol. up and power buttons to get to the menu, and there are 4 options, reboot, update.zip, wipe the cache and something else.

However, I still have Superuser Permissions in my apps from before. Is this good enough? It's just a black screen with Preferences on the menu

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The reason is because you don't have clockwork if you installed the update properly. Go into settings, about phone, software information and make sure it does in fact have 2.3.4!

If you do, then start at the step involving flashing clockwork.
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Thanks, I do have 2.3.4 and followed instructions for reinstalling clockwork but I guess for some reason it didn't take. I will keep trying.

edit: okay I see a problem, the file size of PB31IMG.zip is different from the originally named file; I'd made a copy and renamed it, but I remember accidentally pasting into that folder and getting an error message, I must have corrupted it. D'oh!

edit: WOOHOOOO, HAPPY DANCE!!!!!
All is well, I have a new superuser app, little android icon 3.0.7!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Mmolitor87 and also the others who offered input and help, thank you most of all for your time and patience!

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You're welcome! Hope you continue to enjoy your incredible. I love mine and I'm likely going to be hard pressed to find a replacement anytime soon.

See how your phone performs for a bit, and if you have issues with low space we can see what can be done about that.
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thank you! this sounds like a great beginner guide!

i still have a stock inc, don't have any issues with it (at least not yet), and am still running 2.2 (have ignored the 2.3 updates).

i've been debating rooting now as it appears simpler to do on 2.2 and before i start experiencing any "out of memory" or other common inc problems. i'm happy running 2.2 so i plan on skipping the gingerbread update part.

being proactive with something like this...
[MOD] Ext4 4 ALL! Gingerbread AOSP + GingerSense Update: 10/27 Normal dalvik fixed - xda-developers
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thank you! this sounds like a great beginner guide!

i still have a stock inc, don't have any issues with it (at least not yet), and am still running 2.2 (have ignored the 2.3 updates).

i've been debating rooting now as it appears simpler to do on 2.2 and before i start experiencing any "out of memory" or other common inc problems. i'm happy running 2.2 so i plan on skipping the gingerbread update part.

being proactive with something like this...
[MOD] Ext4 4 ALL! Gingerbread AOSP + GingerSense Update: 10/27 Normal dalvik fixed - xda-developers
In the end, it is up to you and your opinion is god in relation to your own phone. I will lay some things out for you, in the way that I view them.

Gingerbread itself is not the problem. It might be a small part of the problem, and only because with gingerbread comes more features and features tend to take up more space. Even so, it is going to be very limited. Most users run into issues because of a large amount of apps.

If being able to root easily in the future is your concern, get s-off. After that it doesn't matter what you do as long as you don't flash s-on.

I, personally, would recommend you get s-off, return to stock 2.2, upgrade to gingerbread, and see how you like it. Since you'll have s-off you can return to 2.2 if you wish, or you can root gingerbread.

If you eventually run into the low on space error with continued use of your phone (I've had mine for over a year and haven't) then you can apply the patch linked in that thread. It all depends on how you use your phone and what is right for you.

S-off is king.

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I replied here because I don't believe this is intrusive to the thread. For the very same reasons I listed above, I wrote the guide to help UnplugMe root her phone. I didn't recommend she return to stock because this is likely the last update this phone will get and having root won't hurt. If she ever needs it, she will have it without having to go through worrying about obtaining it. Kinda ripping off a band-aid at once sort of thing. Also, she has already run into the low on space once. Since you have not run into low on space, and have no specific purpose for root I made a different recommendation.
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As far as my phone goes, everything is fine. I was familiar with Gingerbread because I'd played with it on my mother's phone, trying to get it set up for her vacation.

I did lose a few things but that was my own fault. In desperation over the Low On Space issue when installing Gingerbread, I did something that removed certain things like icons, bookmarks, wallpaper, etc., but didn't lose anything that couldn't be put back.

I'm thrilled with the phone now, my games are working normally, no loss of data, the phone is working well. I can now see how much data I've used in the data/data area. At the moment I have about 40MB free, but I'm quite sure Low On Space will still be an issue when I least expect it.

So I would like to add the fix. But MMolitor87, you have devoted so much of your time to help me I don't want to monopolize all your free time. Now that I have some experience with doing this sort of thing maybe I can manage it on my own. However I'm not sure which one to choose, if you have time to make a recommendation it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much!

edited to add: The gingerbread update kept trying to download from Verizon the entire time I was going through the process. It was getting rather insistent, instead of two grey choices to install or "later," it was highlighting the install button. Just a heads up to anyone else like me who tries this.
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That way you won't run into the limit again under normal use. I dont mind helping. You have this under control, though!
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Haha, my data system is now on Steroids. I'm all fixed up, it's an Android Miracle!
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Available space: 489MB
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mmolitor87, your guide is amazing.I previously rooted with Unrevoked, but when I saw that you provided a guide to root and fix the low on space error I started to work my way through your step-by-step guide. I've run into a problem along the way and was hoping that you (or someone else knowledgeable) might be able to get me past my issue.

Following your instructions and taking into account that I was already rooted and s-off, I renamed the Gingerbread update and put it on the sd card.

When I boot into hboot, it first says hboot and then hboot usb plug.

Not prompted for install, so navigated into recovery. Got red triangle. Selected "Apply sdcard:update.zip"
Under the red triangle it says E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command

Following your directions, starts install from sd card. Display shows:

finding update package...
opening update package...
verifying update package...
installing update...
checking data partition for free space... (deleted a lot to get it past this part)
copying fotaBoot to /data/system for customize reload...
verifying current system...
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/CityID.apk", a6c4e46488071597dba5a5b0616eef13b6736149".
"a66a6f31558c6006d6985a6733ad1b93e4539546")
E:Error in/sdcard/update.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.

Might this have to do with the fact that I had previously deleted CityID?

Thank you for the guide, and in advance for any help you might be able to provide with my issue.
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mmolitor87, your guide is amazing.I previously rooted with Unrevoked, but when I saw that you provided a guide to root and fix the low on space error I started to work my way through your step-by-step guide. I've run into a problem along the way and was hoping that you (or someone else knowledgeable) might be able to get me past my issue.

Following your instructions and taking into account that I was already rooted and s-off, I renamed the Gingerbread update and put it on the sd card.

When I boot into hboot, it first says hboot and then hboot usb plug.

Not prompted for install, so navigated into recovery. Got red triangle. Selected "Apply sdcard:update.zip"
Under the red triangle it says E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command

Following your directions, starts install from sd card. Display shows:

finding update package...
opening update package...
verifying update package...
installing update...
checking data partition for free space... (deleted a lot to get it past this part)
copying fotaBoot to /data/system for customize reload...
verifying current system...
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/CityID.apk", a6c4e46488071597dba5a5b0616eef13b6736149".
"a66a6f31558c6006d6985a6733ad1b93e4539546")
E:Error in/sdcard/update.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.

Might this have to do with the fact that I had previously deleted CityID?

Thank you for the guide, and in advance for any help you might be able to provide with my issue.
That's exactly the case. My other thread, [How-To] Manually install Gingerbread OTA(s) if rooted. , users have run into the same problem. You'll need to restore those apps. I'd suggest backing up your current apps with titanium backup and restoring to stock 2.2, or restoring to stock 2.2 and carrying the missing apps over to your own nandroid backup of your current setup.

If you need more details on either method feel free to ask.
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When I try to reboot into recovery (either from ROM Manager or manually) I get the red triangle. I push volume up and power, but I never get the option to do nandroid or backup and restore. Choices are reboot now, apply sdcard update, wipe date/factory reset or wipe cache partition. Also, at the bottom it says E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command. If I try Backup current ROM in ROM Manager, I get the screen with the red triangle.

Frustratingly, I had backed up everything with Titanium Backup after rooting, but when I did whatever I did last night, I seem to have lost the backups. I had to reinstall Titanium and the backups aren't there. that's why I'm trying the nandroid route (and failing).

(By the way, please don't think because I rooted before that I have any idea what I'm really doing. I know just enough to get myself in trouble. )
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The red triangle is because you have update.zip on your card.

If you remove update.zip you'll find you boot into stock recovery because you started following the steps in this thread.

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Find recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc_PB31IMG.zip and rename it to PB31IMG.zip. Select 'disk drive' place it on your SD card.

At this point you have a new feature on your phone called fastboot. We're going to disable this as it prevents entry into hboot. Proceed to Settings/Applications and uncheck it at the bottom.

Power the phone down and enter hboot by holding volume down and power. PB31IMG.zip will be loaded and you will be prompted to install. Navigate with power up/down to select 'yes' and hit the power button. Wait for it to finish, should be very quick. Reboot the phone.
And you'll be back on clockwork. Within clockwork you can go into backup & restore and make a nandroid backup. Then you're free to flash 2.2 stock, grab all of the apps from the system/apps folder using root explorer or android sdk. Once you have them safely on your computer or SD card, restore from your backup and add the apps into your system/apps folder. You may then apply the update.

OR

If you can get titanium backup to save your settings again, find them and copy them to your desktop...return to stock froyo and then restore your app settings after you flash clockwork and superuser again.
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Thanks, mmolitor87, but that didn't do it.

I tried this two ways. First, I made sure to delete update.zip from my regular card and got the red triangle.Then I swapped that card for a blank one (formatted FAT 32), tried it again and still got the triangle.

Still have this:
Under the red triangle it says E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command

Any other suggestions?
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You still aren't on clockwork. You need to flash it.
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I've managed to confuse myself in a big way. I flashed clockwork successfully, but now I'm just going around in circles. Tried to go back to stock but couldn't, maybe cause I don't have city id. I don't know how to get the cityid apk back on. I think this is just over my head.

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Give me a bit and I'll have the apps in a zipped folder that users should be able to move into their apps folder and complete the install.

Sorry if I confused you! I'll clarify, I promise.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LFMLDGYX

That would be the stock apps that come with the phone. Put them on your sdcard and use root explorer (paid) or esfile explorer (enable root mode in preferences) to move all the apps you're missing to the system/apps folder.
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Don't apologize for confusing me! I really appreciate your help. I've made a bit of progress, I think, but still not total success.

I went through the list of apps that you sent and anything that was missing I put on my sd card. Then, using Root Explorer, I moved them all to system/apps folder. Hopefully this is right, but I then installed the ones that were missing.

I then tried to go back to stock by putting the stock zip you had in the other link on the sd card and installing it via ROM Manager. Not sure if that worked, but I think it did. Went on to try to flash clockwork recovery and I think I did. I was able to wipe the cache partition.

I formatted the sd card and installed stock recovery. I removed the zip from the card.

Put gingerbread on the sd and went into hboot. This is where things went bad. The update started, but when it got to 'checking data partition free space', the phone rebooted. Got a message that I don't have enough free space to install the system update.

Any thoughts?
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Try running the ruu. I'm not quite following your intent but it seems like you want the newest GB?
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My goal is to get rid of the low on space issue, and if possible, to get gingerbread.

I don't know what the ruu is, let alone how to run it.
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1.) Download the RUU to your PC, save to desktop:
Stock Gingerbread (2.3.4. build 4.08.605.2 final Gingerbread)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BJZX5B1Q
MD5: d25483fc58cc344a5b23aba3813f1341

2.) Connect phone to PC in charge only mode, then launch the RUU program. Follow the steps as indicated to update to the newest Gingerbread.

3.) Once the phone is updated and back up and running, go to Menu > Settings > Applications and uncheck the box for Fastboot.

4.) The RUU unrooted you and replaced the stock recovery so follow the steps in the OP of this thread to regain root, clockwork recovery and Superuser:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/420788-how-regain-root-s-off.html

5.) Go here and download the no_data_limit_normal_dalvik zip near the bottom of the OP:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315372

Download to PC, then hook phone to PC in disk drive mode. Access the SD card and drag/drop the newly acquired zip from PC desktop to the SD card. When done, swipe down notification bar, change to charge only and disconnect phone from usb cable.

6.) Power down phone. Press and hold the volume down key while also pressing the power button until the hboot screen appears. Use volume keys to scroll to recovery. When highlighted, press power button once to enter clockwork again. Flash the no_data_limit_normal_dalvik zip exactly as you did the Superuser zip earlier during step 4.

Once rebooted, you will now be on the newest GB, rooted with Clockwork and Superuser in addition to the "low space" fix being applied.
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Thanks, Iowa. A question before I do this. It says I'll lose all my data if I do this. If I back up with Titanium will I be able to get everything back, or will I have to move that backup somewhere off phone to save it somewhere before I run the ruu?
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You can get it back with Titanium. Just be sure to restore market apps only. No system data, it's too problematic. Take this opportunity to start fresh, it won't take long to get things set up.
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4.) The RUU unrooted you and replaced the stock recovery so follow the steps in the OP of this thread to regain root, clockwork recovery and Superuser:
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I have no luck. I got all the way to this part, clicked "Install zip from SD card", then I get hung up on a pic of the hat. If I press the power button, I can get back to the previous screen, but can't progress past it.
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(NOTE: For those that don't typically load zips directly in CWM, use the trackpad button to make selections in CWM, the power button brings you back one menu.)
...and will bring you to the picture of a hat.
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