I read that our claimed 748mb app space is really ~400mb, so when you think you've got tons of space left and start pulling your hair out because nothing adds up now you'll know what to blame! It's BS. I got the low space warnings last week with about +/- 300mb "free", and that seems to be the pattern for most with this issue.
(PS - If you think we've got it bad be happy you don't have a Desire with only 150mb app space!!!)
I read that our claimed 748mb app space is really ~400mb, so when you think you've got tons of space left and start pulling your hair out because nothing adds up now you'll know what to blame! It's BS. I got the low space warnings last week with about +/- 300mb "free", and that seems to be the pattern for most with this issue.
(PS - If you think we've got it bad be happy you don't have a Desire with only 150mb app space!!!)
the 300-400 MB thing is not the cause. there is more to it. there is a 150 MB level that might be causing the low disk warning. There was a thread a couple weeks ago that discussed this and it seem to be spot on to whats happening.
when i go to "Manage Applications" and go to "All" it shows "Dialer Storage" taking up 56.21MB. That seems WAY too high for any app. If I clear the cache for that does it just wipe the history of my phone dialer, or what exactly is that, and what will clearing the cache do?
i've started getting this error on a regular basis ever since i signed up for slacker plus and started caching stations...never had it before that. i've got nothing that has a cache i can clean, or so it seems...
anyone have any other ways to get rid of this annoyance?
I am having some weird storage issues with my phone. It is giving me a constant alert that "Application data space is low" and that I need to free up space. I was surprised by this and went into the storage settings to find that I have 6.21GB available on internal memory and over 14GB available from my 16GB SD card. There is also the category of phone memory in which 596 of 748MB is available. Now I am noticing that nothing on my phone is updating that requires storage, like emails for example, despite having plenty of storage in all aspects. What am I missing?
I started getting this error last week - and now, I can't download emails in gmail, apps won't update/download from the market, and Google Talk crashes on launch.
I just tried clearing Dolphin Browser HD's cache - but I already had it set to delete cache on exit. Did it anyway. Still have the problem - even after a reboot. And I still get the warning. I've also noticed my touch input is getting more flaky and unresponsive - which really reared it's ugly head when trying to play Angry Birds last night.
I'm eager to hear from anyone that has a solution for this.
I posted this on another thread - but I wanted to make it wasn't buried and hopefully get some others having this problem to give this a try and let me know if my solution works for you too.
So, I was getting the "low on space" error message for a couple weeks now - but (like everyone else), my phone showed I had PLENTY of memory! It did't get annoying until things stopped working in the past couple days:
- updates wouldn't download
- new downloads wouldn't download
- Google Talk stopped working completely
- gmail wouldn't update my inbox or download new emails
- screen touch response was getting more flaky
among other things.
So, I tried all of the things mentioned here and on other similar threads to no avail. The problem didn't get any better in spite of my best efforts.
I went into my Application manager prefs and viewed them by size instead of A-Z. One of the larger ones was Flash, which I downloaded and update for not too long ago. On a whim, I decided to uninstall it and reboot (again). Guess what...
Problem is gone.
No more error message. All of the problems I had above are gone. Everything is working as it should - except for Flash of course.
I'm curious to see if others that are having similar problems would try this (deleting Flash) and seeing if you have the same results. I would like to know if it's really Flash causing the problem, or simply the deletion of one of the larger apps that's fixing it. Because if it's Flash, that's a big deal.
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Unfortunately I think you found only a temporary solution. I had the same exact experience but instead of flash it was a beta version of FireFox. It only took a week or two before it was a different app and now I am getting the warning but at this time it is just warning and is not effecting anything except an occasional market update.
My feeling it is a bug with android but is caused by the installation of some apps.
There is limited space on the internal storage for apps. What you did by uninstalling Flash is free up space. You could've removed any other large app and the result would've been the same. When I had this issue I uninstalled apps I didn't use and moved as many apps to SD as possible and I've been ok for a few weeks.
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There is limited space on the internal storage for apps. What you did by uninstalling Flash is free up space. You could've removed any other large app and the result would've been the same. When I had this issue I uninstalled apps I didn't use and moved as many apps to SD as possible and I've been ok for a few weeks.
It's a sound theory - but I've downloaded about 10 apps since I uninstalled Flash, updated about 20 others (that were in the cue but wouldn't download), and have had no issues. Then today while I was at work, Flash downloaded itself because I forgot that I had it set to auto-update. As soon as it did, everything stopped working again. As soon as I deleted it (again), things went back to normal.
Uninstall Flash and see if the problem goes away. This is just a theory - but it worked for me. I'd like someone else to confirm if it works for them. Make sure to reboot after you uninstall too.
Try clearing your mail folders. Also clear text conversations. Worked for me. It's easy to do when plugged into computer and read as a disk drive. Check mail on card and phone. Not sure if you can clear text conversations on comp. I just clear on phone when it gets full.
Sorry for the brief statement last night I was in a hurry. To see what I mean do the following. Go to settings|applications|manage applications and then go to the All tab. Next, touch menu and select sort by size. You will see Flash is about 11 mb. If you scroll down you will also notice that most apps are much smaller than that. In my case, I have a ton that are less than 1 mb.
When you uninstalled flash you freed up 11 mb of space which cleared your "low on space" error. Then you were able to install new apps and update others with that space. When Flash installed itself again, you ran out of space again.
How did you even uninstall Flash? It is part of the rom. I only have the option to uninstall the updates.
You are correct - it is actually the latest Flash UPDATE that I uninstalled, not the whole app. The update show's it's about 3.7MB.
I used SDMove to move every app I could to the SD card (as I said, over 20MB). Yet, when I reinstall the Flash UPDATE, I get the same problems. Is it the update? Is SDMove NOT moving my apps in reality?
I don't know what to tell you man. I haven't had any issues with the latest flash update and I've got a ton of apps installed so I'm always near the "low" threshold.
I have been having the same problem. 1Gb free on the phone storage and 500Mb free on the SD card. Clearing the CACHE for Flash seems to have fixed it at least for now.
There is an annoying bug with the Incredible. Let's say you have 500MB available for apps on the internal phone storage (the actual internal, not the 8GB mounted). Now, you download 500MB of apps, but offload about 300MB to the SD card. Doesn't matter, the damn phone reports 500MB to the OS, so even though it's showing 300MB free on the internal storage, it's still giving the warning because you've downloaded 500MB of apps.
It's a bug that HTC really needs to kill. It shouldn't take into account parts of apps that are offloaded to the SD card as it does. Also, HTC should have just used 8GB internal instead of separating them. That way we wouldn't have these app issues.
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Don't know if it's flash that was causing the problem for me, but I was watching a video on skyfire when I had the low space notification come up. Uninstalling skyfire got rid of it for me. I haven't tried reinstalling though.
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I posted this on another thread - but I wanted to make it wasn't buried and hopefully get some others having this problem to give this a try and let me know if my solution works for you too.
So, I was getting the "low on space" error message for a couple weeks now - but (like everyone else), my phone showed I had PLENTY of memory! It did't get annoying until things stopped working in the past couple days:
- updates wouldn't download
- new downloads wouldn't download
- Google Talk stopped working completely
- gmail wouldn't update my inbox or download new emails
- screen touch response was getting more flaky
among other things.
So, I tried all of the things mentioned here and on other similar threads to no avail. The problem didn't get any better in spite of my best efforts.
I went into my Application manager prefs and viewed them by size instead of A-Z. One of the larger ones was Flash, which I downloaded and update for not too long ago. On a whim, I decided to uninstall it and reboot (again). Guess what...
Problem is gone.
No more error message. All of the problems I had above are gone. Everything is working as it should - except for Flash of course.
I'm curious to see if others that are having similar problems would try this (deleting Flash) and seeing if you have the same results. I would like to know if it's really Flash causing the problem, or simply the deletion of one of the larger apps that's fixing it. Because if it's Flash, that's a big deal.
Merged the 3 'low space' threads together.
Had this same problem. Deleted yahoo mail from the htc mail app and everything is all good now. Of course it won't let me add my yahoo account back now... error every time.
Is your flash set to 'manual' or whatever? Where you have to click any flash animation first before it loads? That might save you some space...
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I cleared the data in my yahoo fantasy football app and the low space message is gone. We'll see how long that lasts.
Beginning to think it has something to do with yahoo. I had to DL the yahoo mail app cause htc wouldn't let me put yahoo account back in and as soon as i got it set up guess what... low space warning. Cleared email cache and it went away... for now...
Will keep in mind the yahoo FF and try that next, good looking out brainzblown
has anyone spoken with Verizon tech about this?
I am getting the error AGAIN and this time I'm not having luck clearing it by just deleting apps.
I uninstalled 30mb's worth of apps and it's still there.
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has anyone spoken with Verizon tech about this?
I am getting the error AGAIN and this time I'm not having luck clearing it by just deleting apps.
I uninstalled 30mb's worth of apps and it's still there.
Try deleting data on random apps; email, wallpaper apps, things like that. My fantasy Football app (yahoo) has well over 25mb of data
I had this warning pretty much all of last week. I cleared out as much data/caches as I could and it never went away and I decided I was just going to have to get used to it. Then yesterday my phone was acting weird so I re-booted and the warning was gone. (Knock on wood,) it hasn't come back... yet.
I know some people have had this issue (and the SD card one) since before the recent update, but all of it started for me with the update and I find it really annoying. I hadn't had any issues with this phone until the update. Since then, however, I have considered switching phones for the first time because these issues have been so annoying (particularly the SD card one, as it has prevented me from doing things I wanted to do.)
I had a notification in the bar saying my memory is getting low. Click on it and it just takes me to the app list. I went to my my system panel app, and it shows only 25% free space on memory left. My storage is no problem... how do i fix this?
I get this from time to time. Many recommended a full wipe of the phone, however I usually do some house cleaning such as deleting my call and text history, clear my cache (if your rooted you can clear your cache very easily, and delete any apps I may no longer use. Once I do all of this it goes away and your free to re-download apps without it showing back up. It's a really bad bug in my opinion, and it carries through to some custom roms....
Do you have a ton of texts? My 15 year old daughter who sends 6000 texts per month was getting it as well. I deleted a ton of them and the notification went away.
Yesterday, I was installing some apps on my phone and the dreaded low memory notification appears. WTF, I still have over 500MB of 748MB phone memory available. Being rooted, I was able to look at the free space in the phone and discovered where the problem was. In their infinite wisdom, HTC decided to make the application data storage a separate flash memory (149MB not reported - mounted as /data/data) from the Phone memory (748MB reported as Phone memory under the SD & phone storage settings-mounted as /data). Once the applcation data free space falls below roughly 15MB, the notification shows up. The only solution I have found (for now) is to remove some of the apps that I don't use and have large amounts of data associated with them as reported in Manage Applications. The size if the app itself isn't the problem, it's the size of the data. Now to find a way to utilize some of that free phone memory for application data storage.
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Yesterday, I was installing some apps on my phone and the dreaded low memory notification appears. WTF, I still have over 500MB of 748MB phone memory available. Being rooted, I was able to look at the free space in the phone and discovered where the problem was. In their infinite wisdom, HTC decided to make the application data storage a separate flash memory (149MB not reported - mounted as /data/data) from the Phone memory (748MB reported as Phone memory under the SD & phone storage settings-mounted as /data). Once the applcation data free space falls below roughly 15MB, the notification shows up. The only solution I have found (for now) is to remove some of the apps that I don't use and have large amounts of data associated with them as reported in Manage Applications. The size if the app itself isn't the problem, it's the size of the data. Now to find a way to utilize some of that free phone memory for application data storage.
there was a thread a 1.5 months ago that was about this and i still think this is the cause of the error. The thread died out though with not much support but i was down to 40 MBs or so of that memory when i last saw the error. which makes more sense than throwing the error with 400+ MBs of room in phone memory
there was a thread a 1.5 months ago that was about this and i still think this is the cause of the error. The thread died out though with not much support but i was down to 40 MBs or so of that memory when i last saw the error. which makes more sense than throwing the error with 400+ MBs of room in phone memory
I'm fairly confident that this is the cause of the problem. Right now I am at just over 19MB free in the /data/data directory. When it gets below 15MB, I start seeing the notification (verified by creating dummy files to fill the directory). I have ideas to work around it, but haven't had time to try them, it may not be until the weekend before I can really work on it.
You may want to try a couple different "fixes"- this issue has been around for months and different solutions have worked for different people. Try using the search feature here on the forums, and enter "low memory bug" or something similar and you will find a half a dozen threads devoted to the problem.
moving stuff out of that directory was my only thought at the time, but there has to be better ways and HTC should fix it to begin with. Not all apps installed affect this diskspace either, so you cant move them all to the SD card either
i too have been having this problem for the past few months now. i've been searching these forums and other website for a real solution for a long time. these days, multiple times each day, i need to go to settings > applications > all, clear data in my mail app, clear data in my city id app, and then pick random apps and clear data and caches in them. i use the gmail app, not the mail app, but somehow clearing the data in the mail app helps, even if only for a little while. i hope when we get gingerbread, this problem will be fix. is that possible?
I had this hit a few days ago and it drove me insane as it stops all email from coming through.like most people here I had a TON of room left on my phone and my SD card (over 90% free) and the phone memory was at 599 mb available.
I went through all of my apps and none of them were using much memory
I removed my email account from the HTC mail program and deleted google earth (even though I hadn't used it in months) and now the message is gone.
Makes no sense to me to be honest but it's extremely annoying.
Thanks, Jedi54. Deleting my account from HTC Mail app got rid of that "Space is Low" message and I started receiving emails on my Gmail and Yahoo mail apps immediately. I tried clearing caches and force stopping multiple running apps, both to no avail. If it comes back, I think I'll try the Apps 2 SD app and see if that works...
***UPDATE: Apps2SD didn't work for long. Every few days now, I have to continally clear the cache and data on multiple apps to get the message to go away.
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Google Earth?
It seems that when I remove Google Earth, it goes away for me. I can then install more apps (MB worth) than Google Earth, and dont get the warning. Uninstall a bunch, reinstall Google Earth, warning comes right back.
Could Google Earth cache somehow in the internal memory?
EDIT: Warning also seems to only occur when I'm running a Sense ROM, so this appears to be a relationship between a Sense setting and something else...
Here is what I found after some research on XDA forum and other sources. The DINC has a 150 Meg partition that contains program data. The location is /data/data. If this partition gets below 14 or 15 Megs you get the low space warning. What I've had to do is open my application manager and clear program and or cache data to free up space in this partition. The main culprits for space consumption in the data/data partition are Web Browsers, Barnes and Noble's Nook app stores a 10 Meg file (ridiculous if you ask me), Kindle (If you have a lot of books. Up to 2 to 3 Megs of data), Message app (If you store all your old text messages with image and movie attachments, this is a bigy.), The navigation app, and Double Twist just to name a few. Your mileage may vary but these are good starting points.
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Yep. The issue is surfacing more and more now that people have had their DINCs for several months and have loaded them with every app under the sun. I wish there was a way to increase the partition size but have no idea if it's even possible. Something like Partition Magic, only for the DINC.
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