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Old May 29th, 2010, 11:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can someone please explain to me if tethering is free and legal?

Can someone please explain to me if tethering is free and legal?

Why do some sites say Verizon will charge extra? Will they? Do they?

So can you do it free and legally? How do you do it?

I'm scared.



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(and yes I have seen the [How to] Tether Natively thread...)

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Old May 29th, 2010, 11:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes it is legal, however, VZW expects you to pay for their premium business/corporate data package plan instead of the normal unlimited data plan. The former is 45 dollars, whereas the latter is 30 dollars. The former includes you being able to tether, whereas the latter, you are not supposed to.

That being said, as long as VZW doesn't find out you are tethering with their cheaper plan, you will be fine. There are numerous people who tether and actually go over the 5GB tethering cap, without any problems.
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Yes it is legal, however, VZW expects you to pay for their premium business/corporate data package plan instead of the normal unlimited data plan. The former is 45 dollars, whereas the latter is 30 dollars. The former includes you being able to tether, whereas the latter, you are not supposed to.

That being said, as long as VZW doesn't find out you are tethering with their cheaper plan, you will be fine. There are numerous people who tether and actually go over the 5GB tethering cap, without any problems.
How do you personally do it?
Apps like PDAnet or the method mentioned in the [How to] Tether Natively thread? Or just choose "Mobile Broadband Connect" when connected to USB?

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PDAnet. I think Mobile Broadband Connect would be the "legit" way to do it if you were paying the extra monthly cost. Since I am not, I'm using the app.
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PDAnet. I think Mobile Broadband Connect would be the "legit" way to do it if you were paying the extra monthly cost. Since I am not, I'm using the app.
I see, I see. What do you think about the method in the HOW TO thread?
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I see, I see. What do you think about the method in the HOW TO thread?
I have not read that thread, however, I can personally vouch (as well as MANY others) for PDAnet. Its a great app if you decide you want to tether.
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Not an issue of legality. Theoretically you could be charged for it... Theoretically you could break your contract with your carrier. None of which means you are breaking a law, given you are prepared to pay any charges that may come with it.

I have vzw... easily use near 5gigs a month with pdanet and easytether. No issues.
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What's the difference between the free pdanet app and the one that costs something?
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The free version doesn't allow you to access https URL's, so many pages that require transfer of personal information will not work.
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I see, I see. What do you think about the method in the HOW TO thread?
Use this method. It's simple, takes 2 minutes, no 3rd party applications, and is 100% free without any HTTPS filtering.
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Can someone please explain to me if tethering is free and legal?

Why do some sites say Verizon will charge extra? Will they? Do they?

So can you do it free and legally? How do you do it?

I'm scared.



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(and yes I have seen the [How to] Tether Natively thread...)
Two long running debates for Verizon users... "Is it ok to tether or not?" and "Is the data plan unlimited or does it have a 5gig cap?"

Read the fine print on the TOS for the Unlimited Email and Web for Smart Phone and Blackberry plains. There is no cap listed or even implied. However, it DOES specifically forbid tethering (using your phone as a modem)... from -> Terms & Conditions
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These WirelessEmail plans and features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to Mobile BroadbandConnect.
Now, the Mobile Broadband Connect plans terms no longer has the verbiage that says something like "a typical user only performing the permitted activities wont exceed 5gig per month.." like they used to (so is the 5gig cap gone??), but they still have the break down of web page sizes, etc like they used to.

The Terms DO still say... from -> Terms & Conditions
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Customers who do not have dedicated Mobile Broadband devices cannot tether other devices to laptops or personal computers for use as wireless modems unless they subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect.
IN both cases, VZW says in writing that you can't tether unless you subscribe to their mobile broadband connect plans.

So that covers what VZW has in writing... that tethering is not allowed unless you also subscribe to their mobile broadband connect plans.

That being said, many have reported using PDAnet, Tether.com, editing values in the service menu, edit/rewrite the NAI value, root their Droid and install xxxx, to tether without getting caught. That spawns other questions of... "Is Verizon looking at this?", "what will get me caught?", "Has Verizon caught anyone doing this yet?", "Can Verizon detect things like PDA net which makes it look like the data is being used by the phone?", etc. and statements like "the VZW rep told me it was ok, and suggested xxx" which results in treads with speculation, guesses, assumptions, etc. and no correct or clear answer.

Just know what VZW's written TOS and T&C say, and that if you decided to violate anything in VZW's written TOS or T&C's and you get caught, VZW could take action. And IF they did, you'd have consequences to deal with. (high bill, potential of cancellation of service, etc??)

If you are ok taking that risk, then do what you want...
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Where is the "How-To" thread on wireless tethering? I've looked all over the forums and have been unable to find it.

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Where is the "How-To" thread on wireless tethering? I've looked all over the forums and have been unable to find it.

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Here you go.

http://androidforums.com/tips-tricks-incredible/74400-howto-tether-natively.html
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If I have one of those USB sticks that connects to cell towers and is used for laptops, can I use tethering? I mean, is that the same thing? We do pay for it and all.....
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why exactly does it cost more to tether? seems to be arbitrary BS to me
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If I have one of those USB sticks that connects to cell towers and is used for laptops, can I use tethering? I mean, is that the same thing? We do pay for it and all.....

Is that and your phone on the same account? If so, My guess is it would be ok, BUT if you want to be "legit"(in accordance with the TOS), I would double check with VZW.
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why exactly does it cost more to tether? seems to be arbitrary BS to me

Because Verizon (and rightly so) Expects someone using a laptop/computer/etc to generally use MUCH more data and bandwidth then what most people are going to do on their phone.

Part of the problem is the abuser's, the guy who's trying to use bit torrent to download 2-3 HD movies at 10-15 GBs each a week over his connection...
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If you are ok taking that risk, then do what you want...
It's good to see the man that has provided me with countless years of Razr, envy2, and lgchoc tips, tricks, and root edits join an android forum that I just hopped on for info.

You are legendary in my book. And yeah, I do remember the EVDO tethering "caught red handed" stories posted on howardforums.

It's not exactly a game that you can play with any sort of science that will keep you from getting caught. Most people that got busted were seriously throttling the wireless network, like hooking up their xbox to it for live, or torrenting movies, etc. Generally using the connection for their primary internet connection.

But some weren't. Some used it periodically or "leisurely" and still got bones. It's definitely a YMMV service.
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Something else for everyone to think about in general...

Free WiFi is almost everywhere now. I'm on free WiFi at Borders right now, I'm pretty sure the McDonald's up the street has free WiFi, and I know the library just a couple miles away has free WiFi.

If you can't think of anywhere in your area, try these sites which will list all the free (and paid) WiFi spots in your area: GWiFi, JIWire, and WiFi Free Spot.

A coworker suggested EasyTether to me yesterday, and I searched here to see if there was any catch behind it.

In truth, there's so much free WiFi around (at least here in Orlando) that I don't feel the need to either pay for tethering or even do it through a hack or third-party app, regardless of the legal or ethical issues.

So, IMO, this is a third option to consider.
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