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Old June 23rd, 2010, 10:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ever since changing my preferred network to CDMA auto my phone's battery life shot up to an up time of about 16hrs and awake time of about 4hrs at 50% on a single charge.
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 10:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Changed it to what in where?
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This doesn't mean a thing. Take a video of you showing that, then clicking Usage and showing us the "Time unplugged" too. Otherwise this is meaningless since you can have it plugged in during this time / part of this time.
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Not to mention it's already on CDMA auto by default.
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Not to mention it's already on CDMA auto by default.
That's not true. #*#*4636*#*# and check it for yourself. Mine was set to GSM (prl). After changing it, my battery time improved as well. Not conjecture, fact.
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@ttamnedlog: Maybe yours was but mine wasn't.
@:necosino: I made the video but its kind of blurry.
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And how do I upload the video? lol It wont let me
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(tbh I'm just curious what your time unplugged was, lol)
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You have to upload it to youtube then link it.
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Does this have to be called?
Does this hurt/help reception?
Are there any negative side effects to this?
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YouTube - Phone unplugged time

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1. No it goes to it at the last hash symbol
2. No it doesnt do either
3. Not that I know of but the preferred network type is the only thing I changed
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Does this have to be called?
Does this hurt/help reception?
Are there any negative side effects to this?
Go to your dialer and dial *#*#4636#*#*

click Phone Information

Menu>Select Radio> Force Close

Scroll down you will see that your Default Radio is GSM (prl)

Hit the drop down menu and select CDMA auto (prl) then hit the back button, after it finishes you can hit the home button and you are finished.

It is changed.

No the ONLY effect that I've had is LONGER battery life. To help reception go into your dialer and dial ##778 and hit Call.

Click Edit Mode the Pass Word is 000000 then hit OK.

Click CDMA Settings

Scroll Down to Home Page and click it.

Change from EVRC to EVRC-B and click ok.

Press back and back. You are finished. Better signal strength and better call quality. (For me at least).
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Code's not working for me

Nevermind, thanks Cincybear
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Phone starts out as CDMA, when you cause the force close it causes it to go to GSM, then you have to change it back to CDMA. People have over-ripe imaginations. ...and yes I've done this. It did nothing for my battery life whatever.
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16h @ 50% even better lol
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Phone starts out as CDMA, when you cause the force close it causes it to go to GSM, then you have to change it back to CDMA. People have over-ripe imaginations. ...and yes I've done this. It did nothing for my battery life whatever.
I noticed this as well. Ah first I thought I thought "hey, mine's set the wrong way!" but that was only after the force close, which had reset it. No battery gains, sadly.
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That's not true. #*#*4636*#*# and check it for yourself. Mine was set to GSM (prl). After changing it, my battery time improved as well. Not conjecture, fact.
It is true. Neither conjecture nor fact, just misunderstanding.

It is set to CDMA by default. When you go into the radio menu and it force closes, it just happens to start on the GSM option. Mine, yours, and everybody else's started by default on CDMA.

So there is no battery improvements, signal strength improvements, or any other effect because literally nothing is being changed.

Now what you mentioned about dialing 778, THAT can indeed improve call quality. In some locations. For other locations, it can cause entire loss of signal. Just have to try that one for yourself. YMMV.
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Thanks. There really should be a field called "Time Until Battery Discharge" or something like that. Something that shows how much time (hr/min/sec) of how much battery life is left.
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Yeah, there's an app for that...

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Now what you mentioned about dialing 778, THAT can indeed improve call quality. In some locations. For other locations, it can cause entire loss of signal. Just have to try that one for yourself. YMMV.
Completely agree!!

Be careful people, you need to be in an area that supports whatever change you make otherwise you will hose your reception completely.
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If you change to evrc-b, be sure you test it out. My area did not fully support it.
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It is set to CDMA by default. When you go into the radio menu and it force closes, it just happens to start on the GSM option. Mine, yours, and everybody else's started by default on CDMA.

I was one of the first people to post this tip on here, and while I agree with what you've said here, I disagree that it does nothing (in my case).

After reading a lot of "it does nothing" replies, I decided to reboot without making the change. And what I noticed, on my phone, which no one here can dispute is the following....

In my house where I get at least 3 bars of signal all the time, without the change my Time Without Signal number would be quite high (~40%). After the change, in the same spot, my Time Without Signal remains at 0%.

So, until someone explains that, I'll stay soundly on the "it helps some people" side of the house.

And besides, it takes maybe 30 seconds to do this after each reboot (which don't happen that often).
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Completely agree!!

Be careful people, you need to be in an area that supports whatever change you make otherwise you will hose your reception completely.

Is there a map that says what areas best support each of the two settings?
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It is true. Neither conjecture nor fact, just misunderstanding.

It is set to CDMA by default. When you go into the radio menu and it force closes, it just happens to start on the GSM option. Mine, yours, and everybody else's started by default on CDMA.

So there is no battery improvements, signal strength improvements, or any other effect because literally nothing is being changed.

Now what you mentioned about dialing 778, THAT can indeed improve call quality. In some locations. For other locations, it can cause entire loss of signal. Just have to try that one for yourself. YMMV.
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I'll try this out. However, I still stand by the philosophy that I should not have to install an APP/Widget just to get my phone to do basic functionality.
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I was one of the first people to post this tip on here, and while I agree with what you've said here, I disagree that it does nothing (in my case).

After reading a lot of "it does nothing" replies, I decided to reboot without making the change. And what I noticed, on my phone, which no one here can dispute is the following....

In my house where I get at least 3 bars of signal all the time, without the change my Time Without Signal number would be quite high (~40%). After the change, in the same spot, my Time Without Signal remains at 0%.

So, until someone explains that, I'll stay soundly on the "it helps some people" side of the house.

And besides, it takes maybe 30 seconds to do this after each reboot (which don't happen that often).
Well, the same thing can be achieved by turning on airplane mode and turning it back off.

Now why either of these things affect time without signal, I have no idea.


EDIT: And much like half the other indicators on the phone, I think Time Without Signal doesn't really indicate anything. I also have a high TWS in my house, and my phone always sits at my desk. Yet I can make hour long calls at my desk and never drop a one. If I really have no signal 40% of the time, then surely I should be dropping those calls.
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Go to your dialer and dial *#*#4636#*#*

click Phone Information

Menu>Select Radio> Force Close

Scroll down you will see that your Default Radio is GSM (prl)

Hit the drop down menu and select CDMA auto (prl) then hit the back button, after it finishes you can hit the home button and you are finished.

It is changed.

No the ONLY effect that I've had is LONGER battery life. To help reception go into your dialer and dial ##778 and hit Call.

Click Edit Mode the Pass Word is 000000 then hit OK.

Click CDMA Settings

Scroll Down to Home Page and click it.

Change from EVRC to EVRC-B and click ok.

Press back and back. You are finished. Better signal strength and better call quality. (For me at least).

Mine defaulted back to EVRC after I restarted my phone.

I had to go back and hit MENU, COMMIT CHANGE..

Anyone else notice this?
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Mine was setup at GSM (prl) when I got the phone. When I did the change, it never did force close.
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What other phone has this "basic functionality"? Apps are there to make the phone do what you want. Give me a vanilla phone any day that I can build the way I want it without it clogged with what someone else thinks is "basic functionality".
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That's not true. #*#*4636*#*# and check it for yourself. Mine was set to GSM (prl). After changing it, my battery time improved as well. Not conjecture, fact.
I am experiencing the same thing. I did this yesterday and my battery life is considerably better.
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Go to your dialer and dial *#*#4636#*#*

click Phone Information

Menu>Select Radio> Force Close

Scroll down you will see that your Default Radio is GSM (prl)

Hit the drop down menu and select CDMA auto (prl) then hit the back button, after it finishes you can hit the home button and you are finished.

It is changed.

No the ONLY effect that I've had is LONGER battery life. To help reception go into your dialer and dial ##778 and hit Call.

Click Edit Mode the Pass Word is 000000 then hit OK.

Click CDMA Settings

Scroll Down to Home Page and click it.

Change from EVRC to EVRC-B and click ok.

Press back and back. You are finished. Better signal strength and better call quality. (For me at least).
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thought it said 10 hours since, not sure, couldn't really tell
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