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Old April 15th, 2010, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default [Battery] Fixes and Tips

This thread along with the other is being created for the purpose of merging all battery threads into three. It will keep the forum clean and will also serve as a one stop information collective.

This particular [Battery] thread is for Fixes and Tips on how to increase battery life. If you have found any ways to help get the most out of your battery please share it here and help other members if you can. Please don't get angry or upset with another member if they disagree with your fix or tip.

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Default Day 5: Dramatically Improved Battery Life

I've been on about 5-6 hours with moderate to heavy use. Initially I did two full cycles but haven't let it drop below about 25% since then. Today with no change at all, it's 1/2 way through the day and I'm still at 44%.
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Right.

All new rechargables need to go thru a conditioning/break-in process as they need a few charging cycles to reach their potential.
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Good to hear. I get 20+ hours with heavy use.
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Yeah, im getting tired of all the complaining about the battery. I have had no problems at all and like its said here, the battery gets better after a few cycles. DINC rules!!!
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It was pretty funny and frustrating to see all the people post about this non-issue 1-2 days into use. I mean how dense can people get? Even after numerous replies by those of us who've had other android phones or smartphones people would insist it was a deal breaker and i'm sure a few people tried to return their phone because of it. All you can do is laugh.
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Right.

All new rechargables need to go thru a conditioning/break-in process as they need a few charging cycles to reach their potential.
Not true.
Don't know where this false idea comes from. Hard to stop it from spreading like other urban legends. Maybe its confusion between different types of rechargables. Lithium ion is not the same as nicad or nimh.
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Yeah, im getting tired of all the complaining about the battery. I have had no problems at all and like its said here, the battery gets better after a few cycles. DINC rules!!!
Also people stop playing with it constantly....
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How is everyone determining the % of the battery?
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Not true.
Don't know where this false idea comes from.
From the experience with my Droid, Moto Q, and N900, along with the instructions from my Seidio extended batteries.

Along with any other smartphone forum with posts about poor initial battery life.
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How is everyone determining the % of the battery?
Battery Widget - Android app on AppBrain
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From the experience with my Droid, Moto Q, and N900, along with the instructions from my Seidio extended batteries.
the trouble is that you are relying on anecdotal evidence with no control for your "test"

it could easily be that you are just playing with it less after a few days, so you think your battery life is getting better
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Not true.
Don't know where this false idea comes from. Hard to stop it from spreading like other urban legends. Maybe its confusion between different types of rechargables. Lithium ion is not the same as nicad or nimh.
Lithium Ion batteries still require a 2-5 cycle conditioning. NiCad and NiMh are different in that they form "memory" and can lose capacity if not charged properly due to crystalization but to say that this is an urban legend is just plain wrong
 
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Does this only calculate in increments of 10?
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the trouble is that you are relying on anecdotal evidence with no control for your "test"

it could easily be that you are just playing with it less after a few days, so you think your battery life is getting better

Even when new, the batterie(s) did not last the full 6 hours they were rated for, nor a full 24hrs when "idle" (less than 15 minutes per day of interaction with the rest of the day idle on the desk).

I have multiple batteries, with multiple mAh ratings, for all my phones, so I was well past the "wow factor", and using "normally". They all exhibited the same tendencies.

One would think that the manufacturer explicitly supplying this information in their instructions would suffice.
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Does this only calculate in increments of 10?
Nope it's to the exact %.
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Take it easy, Champ. Why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while
Because he's actually right?

Lithium Polymer batteries will not improve capacity with conditioning, and further have no memory.

In fact, it's to the contrary - the lithium polymer chemistry begins slowly degrading every single time it's discharged. It doesn't really matter what you or other people "observe" in a non scientific environment.

Physics > your experiences
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I'm at 14h and 15m since unplugged. I have 63% left. I have played with the phone WAY less today. The 1st 6.5 hours was when I was asleep and I had wifi, network, bluetooth, etc. all turned off. When I woke up at 7:00 I turned on wifi and refresh. I have sent and recieved over 30 texts today and talked about 40 min on various calls. I have downloaded and installed 3 new apps.I have also sent and received over 20 emails. I go home in an hour. Today is the 1st day that I am confident that I will be able to make it an entire work day without even worrying about recharging my phone. I can get used to this.
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My stats:

Unplugged since 9:08 AM EST - current time is 3:08 EST

Discharging from 100%

Battery is currently at 32% charge

Voice Calls - 21% usage - 49 minutes total
Android System - 16%
Cell Standby - 15% 6h 0min
Bluetooth - 15% 6h 0min
ExtremeTypist - 15% - 2min 54 seconds
Phone Idle 12% 4h 48min
Display - 5% - 1h 13min
Wifi - 2% - 39min 26s


So in total, the battery really does blow.

In summation, I had 49min of voice calls and then 1h 13min where I was touching the phone whether it be sending txts or organizing my sense UI or whatever. No games, no music, no apps. Wifi on for 40min total. Battery is already down to 30% after 6 hours. It looks like I'll get no more than 2 hours of actual usage out of the stock battery.

Looking foward to my TP2 battery that's in the mail.

I'm beginning to think that signal strength is the biggest determination of battery life. I get 0-1 bars in my apartment, which is where I've been most of the day.
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I'm beginning to think that signal strength is the biggest determination of battery life. I get 0-1 bars in my apartment, which is where I've been most of the day.
Just spitballing here, but there have been mentions that the reported low signal strength is a software issue. If power is being boosted to compensate for the reported low signal strength, then it stands to reason that when the signal strength reporting is fixed battery life could improve as a result.
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Just spitballing here, but there have been mentions that the reported low signal strength is a software issue. If power is being boosted to compensate for the reported low signal strength, then it stands to reason that when the signal strength reporting is fixed battery life could improve as a result.

FWIW, my Droid could go 24+ hours of "my normal use". However, at my mom's house, a low signal area for her Verizon flip phone as well, my fully charged Droid almost fully drained in under 4 hours from a varying signal of 0-1 bar. Phone was also "warm to the touch".

I don't believe that the relationship of low signal and high battery drain is limited to the Incredible.
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I get about 20 hours with heavy use and 27 hours with light-medium use.

I LOVE my Incredible!!
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For the first few days, I noticed my battery draining constantly, even in standby. I was seriously considering going to verizon and asking for either a replacement battery or a new phone altogether. Then, magically, today it stopped draining. I don't think it has much to do with conditioning. I think it is more related to the software. Maybe there was some initial calibration (beyond the battery meter, even) that had to be done, but I did have to restart it a lot last night (for app reasons, not battery) and it seems like the battery life has improved since. This is all pure speculation, however, but it seems to me like if the battery needed conditioning to achieve a longer discharge, that would be a gradual change, not a sudden oh-my-godz-my-phone-is-now-the-awesome sorta situation. I could be wrong, though.

Also, Mobile network is on, but always-on is not.
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My stats:

Unplugged since 9:08 AM EST - current time is 3:08 EST

Discharging from 100%

Battery is currently at 32% charge

Voice Calls - 21% usage - 49 minutes total
Android System - 16%
Cell Standby - 15% 6h 0min
Bluetooth - 15% 6h 0min
ExtremeTypist - 15% - 2min 54 seconds
Phone Idle 12% 4h 48min
Display - 5% - 1h 13min
Wifi - 2% - 39min 26s


So in total, the battery really does blow.

In summation, I had 49min of voice calls and then 1h 13min where I was touching the phone whether it be sending txts or organizing my sense UI or whatever. No games, no music, no apps. Wifi on for 40min total. Battery is already down to 30% after 6 hours. It looks like I'll get no more than 2 hours of actual usage out of the stock battery.

Looking foward to my TP2 battery that's in the mail.

I'm beginning to think that signal strength is the biggest determination of battery life. I get 0-1 bars in my apartment, which is where I've been most of the day.
Looks more like ExtremeTypist blows
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Just spitballing here, but there have been mentions that the reported low signal strength is a software issue. If power is being boosted to compensate for the reported low signal strength, then it stands to reason that when the signal strength reporting is fixed battery life could improve as a result.
Is there a signal strength issue?

I couldn't get 3G at my desk at work, while the Droid could. Verizon modified my PRL to a "hybrid" one, which also pulls from Alltel towers.

They explained that my Droid was pulling from a hybrid PRL, and that not all Alltel towers have been converted to Verizon yet, so they were being excluded from the Incredible's pool of towers.

After this, I have not had 1 dropped call, or any issue with voice calls, OR data...this is traveling 3 hours over the weekend also.
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I have noticed that my battery time has gone way up as well...

I have had 3 or 4 full charges (can't remember exactly) so far since getting the phone last Wednesday. Battery life has gotten better every time.

I have had the phone unplugged since yesterday at 7AMish. Total up time of 1 day, 9 hours, 38 minutes and still have 40%+ battery left.

I have had Wifi on for at home, mail, twitter, facebook notifications all on. Also sent numerous texts, average 1-2 bars on screen.

I do kill applications when done with them via Open Advanced Task Killer.

That said, I don't think the battery is a huge problem.
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This simply cannot be stated enough apparently.

Any of your "personal experiences" under completely uncontrolled test conditions do not change FACTS. Just read a little, you'll learn something. Google it and skip any place that has "forum" in the name:

Charging lithium-ion batteries

"Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."


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Good to hear. I get 20+ hours with heavy use.
I think you should qualify your battery statements by mentioning if you turn off mobile networks etc.

Some people claiming outrageous battery times because they turn off 3g, no refresh with networks lower volume, no haptic feedback, no vibrate , lowest backlighting.
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I turned off mobile networks to always on setting and went from 6 hour battery (100 to 10 pct)

to an 8 hr battery.

Still not good enough and frankly my messages were arriving late and I was not too happy with the phone.

I hope the signal update helps, that may very well be the problem since I am in a marginal signal area.
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Today was the first day what I would consider "normal use" (the first 5 days I was constantly doing something on it and had to charge it more frequently. Today however was a different story...I just now plugged in to recharge after 20hrs with 22% battery left still. This is with wifi and blue tooth toggled off and everything else on.
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This simply cannot be stated enough apparently.

Any of your "personal experiences" under completely uncontrolled test conditions do not change FACTS. Just read a little, you'll learn something. Google it and skip any place that has "forum" in the name:

Charging lithium-ion batteries

"Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."


Fair enough, but the "facts" in my situations were that I'd had all my phones for several weeks, prior to buying additional batteries for them. None of the new batteries, be it OEM or 3rd party, would last over 8-12 hrs while "idle"on my desk (work from home). As an engineer, I tend to be methodical about my evaluation process. I think I'd be able to factor in my usage in determining if it made a difference with a 2-3x gain in battery life. In no case did any purchased battery last as long as the original, on its first use.
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I get about 20 hours with heavy use and 27 hours with light-medium use.

I LOVE my Incredible!!
Weren't you just claiming a few days ago to get 40+ hours out of the battery? What happened to that?
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Fair enough, but the "facts" in my situations were that I'd had all my phones for several weeks, prior to buying additional batteries for them. None of the new batteries, be it OEM or 3rd party, would last over 8-12 hrs while "idle"on my desk (work from home). As an engineer, I tend to be methodical about my evaluation process. I think I'd be able to factor in my usage in determining if it made a difference with a 2-3x gain in battery life. In no case did any purchased battery last as long as the original, on its first use.

As an engineer, I'd think you understand the importance of an actual controlled test and know the obvious differences between it and your own observations, no matter how careful they may be.

Especially when there is available credible documentation that basically says what you think you are witnessing is pretty much physically impossible.

I'm not saying you didn't buy new batteries that didn't last as long the first day you used them as your older batteries. Your report about what you saw may very well be factual. But certainly, as an engineer, you must be able to understand why the correlations apparent in those limited observations by you are no evidence of causation, especially when chemical engineering facts available regarding exactly how these devices function completely dismiss your observations as impossible. (edit: conclusions as impossible, not observations)

Nobody is saying you're lying about what you saw. What we are saying is that if you read about what a lithium ion battery is, you will see that the explanation of your observations is incorrect. Something else besides "conditioning" is at play here, because conditioning simply doesn't exist (for these batteries).
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With the newness dissipating I'm getting a full day of my normal smartphone usage, coming from a Curve. I'm satisfied with the current capacity and likely won't get an extended battery. YMMV.
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I think I got a lemon
Discharging from 100%
Battery level 73%

37 Minutes since unplugged ( it was plugged in for 12 hours)
Android 65%
Display 22%
Cell Standby 13%
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I think I got a lemon
Discharging from 100%
Battery level 73%

37 Minutes since unplugged ( it was plugged in for 12 hours)
Android 65%
Display 22%
Cell Standby 13%
Some app is eating away your Inc. Do you have Astro? It has a pretty nice task manager type app that breaks down usage for you
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I do. It shows nothing is running
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Android at 65% is awfully high I've never seen mine that high. In your battery settings when you click on "Android System" what is your "cpu total?"
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...Especially when there is available credible documentation that basically says what you think you are witnessing is pretty much physically impossible...
How is it impossible that my battery goes on my desk at 7am, when I first bought it, I don't touch it all day, and its almost dead by 4pm. I do the same for the rest of the week, and then it starts to last overnight...with the phone being pulled off the charger, following overnight charging, at 6am. This comparing same size OEM batteries.

Its kinda hard to "fat finger" a 16+hr discrepency. I'm glad that all of your extra batteries worked to their full potential right out of the box.
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would it just be the battery that sucks? or would it be the phone itself? because I'm getting shitty battery life too and I've done all the things posted in the threads to save batt life... i can literally see it drop every few min.
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Android at 65% is awfully high I've never seen mine that high. In your battery settings when you click on "Android System" what is your "cpu total?"
CPU Total 33s
CPU foreground 3s
Data Sent 1.78 KB
Data Recieved 1.2 KB
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CPU Total 33s
CPU foreground 3s
Data Sent 1.78 KB
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Hmm that's not the issue then those are fine numbers. Do you have something that is polling often? There has ben a gmail contacts sync issue talked about in another forum iirc....maybe this is what you are experiencing...I can't find it I'll look!
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I dont have Gmail sync set up. I have Yahoo, but I set it at every 4 hours. Thats the only email that is set up.
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I got the red light indicator yesterday after about 14 hrs. I'm on day 5 and it maybe has gotten a little better. That's really not going to cut it for me.

I just don't get how people say I need to turn everything off in order to get a long battery life. What the hell is the point of buying the phone then?

My blackberry had no problem staying charged for two days with heavy use, wi-fi, gps, internet, texting, emails, phone calls.

I don't buy that excuse that I have to turn all that crap off. The battery sucks, period. Why is everyone beating around the bush about it. It's an awesome phone, don't get me wrong, but the battery sucks.
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I get about 8 hours of heavy use to get me down to about 30% then I fully charge
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I got the red light indicator yesterday after about 14 hrs. I'm on day 5 and it maybe has gotten a little better. That's really not going to cut it for me.

I just don't get how people say I need to turn everything off in order to get a long battery life. What the hell is the point of buying the phone then?

My blackberry had no problem staying charged for two days with heavy use, wi-fi, gps, internet, texting, emails, phone calls.

I don't buy that excuse that I have to turn all that crap off. The battery sucks, period. Why is everyone beating around the bush about it. It's an awesome phone, don't get me wrong, but the battery sucks.
What size screen and processor did your blackberry have?
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No idea. I had the Storm 2
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I get about 20 hours with heavy use and 27 hours with light-medium use.

I LOVE my Incredible!!
My battery does not make it through the day and you get 20+ hours. Do you use any special power management settings? Thanks
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