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Old May 27th, 2010, 10:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Heads up on an app that won't let the phone go to sleep.

Not sure if there's a thread somewhere that just lists apps that have caused peoples phones to not sleep, but I just wanted to give a quick heads up for two I have found so far.

First is Flickr, but that's pretty well documented at this point.

Today I noticed some very rapid battery drain and narrowed it down to Palmary Weather. I figured out that you must use the back key until the app exits for this to work correctly. If you just press the home key while in the app, it will keep the phone awake.

OK, I was just giving a quick heads up, but might as well keep a running list to make this easy. Just please make sure you've actually proven these apps have caused this issue or else we might have 1,000 listed. Also, this is not saying that the app is causing you an issue, just the obvious ones to look at when you do have a problem.

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- Flickr (if Facebook for HTC Sense is also setup to sync)
- Palmary Weather (updated:issue only occurs if you do not exit the app correctly...working fine now)
- Profile
- Slacker Radio (some do not have an issue if you hit Menu/Exit to close app...others still have issue)
- Google Listen (must be configured to only download while on Wi-Fi and while charging)
- Meebo
- Alice
- MyLock

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I was planning on doing the same thing. I was talking to one of the moderators about putting in with the battery threads. Never got around to doing it. But if I can add to your list its PROFILE. I tested it, and it only seems to keep the phone awake when you have time enabled profile rules. If you manually switch profiles it will not interfere with the phone's sleep process.
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One other app I should add since I've seen a few people mention it is Slacker Radio. I'm not sure if it's just the widget or the program itself. But I remember reading that there's a certain way to exit the app or else causes the issue.

Please, if anyone else comes across one post it up. Could save someone a lot of hassle.
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Google Listen gave me SERIOUS battery issues. Had to use a task killer to properly exit the app.
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when using slacker just hit menu and exit it when you are not using it
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You can add Meebo to that list.
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One other app I should add since I've seen a few people mention it is Slacker Radio. I'm not sure if it's just the widget or the program itself. But I remember reading that there's a certain way to exit the app or else causes the issue.

Please, if anyone else comes across one post it up. Could save someone a lot of hassle.
The application definitely has this bug - I don't use the widget, yet wind up with a rapidly dying battery after using it. Verified using Spare Parts.
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Alice the concert finder caused my phone to never sleep. So I guess you can add that to the list.
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Is there a way to easily figure out what apps don't let your phone got to sleep? I don't want a rogue app on my phone without me discovering it.
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Dang, added Meebo and a few more posts came up. I'll try to keep updating the original post.
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Is there a way to easily figure out what apps don't let your phone got to sleep? I don't want a rogue app on my phone without me discovering it.
You can download Systempanel, and see what is "active." Do not worry about the background/cached apps as those, even though running, are not taking any cpu cycles to where it can affect the battery life.
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this is a great thread. I'm kinda anal about my apps and download them slowly, one at a time to make sure it works on my phone flawlessly. (kinda like when you're only supposed to give a baby a new food every 3-4 days to make sure there isn't an allergy, and if there is, you know which food caused it lol). But yeah, this thread helps me avoid just the apps I want to be avoiding!
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You can download Systempanel, and see what is "active." Do not worry about the background/cached apps as those, even though running, are not taking any cpu cycles to where it can affect the battery life.
I'm a huge fan of SystemPanel, it helped me find both of my problem apps, but just because something is listed under background doesn't mean it's not the problem. This is exactly what happened to me when I spent the better part of a day tracking down my Flickr issue. The coolest part of SP for me is that you can select that End All button, then choose the level of cutoff. So you can just end all the background apps in one shot, then do a quick sleep test. Narrows down your problem app much quicker.
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Google Listen gave me SERIOUS battery issues. Had to use a task killer to properly exit the app.
I've been using Listen and have had zero issues.
Maybe check your refresh intervals, or check download only when plugged in or on wifi.
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Meebo has to though to function, there is nothing wrong with the app, most all the IM apps have to do this like nimbuzz etc. i wouldnt add it to the list
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i can confirm that Slacker continues to use CPU when not being used. i always have to kill it otherwise it keeps using cpu and will sometimes even randomly start playing music. it's to bad because i actually like the app.
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If I can add to the list, I've had no luck with the MyLock app. Whenever I leave that app on from a phone reboot, uptime and awake time have always been the same. As much as how I liked that app, I've been on a lookout for a replacement app that will let the phone sleep.
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If I can add to the list, I've had no luck with the MyLock app. Whenever I leave that app on from a phone reboot, uptime and awake time have always been the same. As much as how I liked that app, I've been on a lookout for a replacement app that will let the phone sleep.
screen mode widget lite is your answer. it can do the same thing as mylock, but does it better.
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i can confirm that Slacker continues to use CPU when not being used. i always have to kill it otherwise it keeps using cpu and will sometimes even randomly start playing music. it's to bad because i actually like the app.
Do you kill it just going to the "Running Services" window, or do you use a task killer app? I've killed the app in the "Running Services" window, and for whatever reason, Slacker would wake up my phone in the middle of the night and continue to drain the battery til I wake up. In fact, it took me a couple of days to figure out what app was actually draining my battery. It wasn't until I installed Spare Parts that I finally realized it was Slacker. I've since uninstalled Slacker.
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Do you kill it just going to the "Running Services" window, or do you use a task killer app? I've killed the app in the "Running Services" window, and for whatever reason, Slacker would wake up my phone in the middle of the night and continue to drain the battery til I wake up. In fact, it took me a couple of days to figure out what app was actually draining my battery. It wasn't until I installed Spare Parts that I finally realized it was Slacker. I've since uninstalled Slacker.
i use the Quick System Info app to kill it. it's not a task killer, but it has a task killer feature built into the app.
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Meebo has to though to function, there is nothing wrong with the app, most all the IM apps have to do this like nimbuzz etc. i wouldnt add it to the list
Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm kinda thinking I'll leave it up there and you can decide for yourself if you want to deal with it or any of the other IM apps.
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Slacker is now gone from my Phone. i like the app, but i can't take it starting on its own and using battery for no apparent reason. back to Pandora and droidlive(well i never left droidlive) for now.
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when using slacker just hit menu and exit it when you are not using it
That is the method I always use to exit, yet I still have the problem.
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This is somewhat related for Alice users. Gigbox is far better (in my opinion), and doesn't have any battery issues. Plus if you're a last.fm user, it will sync with your account.
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Google Listen gave me SERIOUS battery issues. Had to use a task killer to properly exit the app.
I think you have setup google listen to only download while on Wi-Fi and while charging.
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The latest version of Wapedia was keeping mine awake until I uninstalled it. The older version didn't cause this problem.
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The latest version of Wapedia was keeping mine awake until I uninstalled it. The older version didn't cause this problem.
I'm finding that how you leave the app is sometimes the problem. I have Wapedia installed and do not have the issue because I use the back button multiple times to exit. But if I open the app, then hit the home button it does in fact keep the phone awake. After realizing this, I tested Palmary Weather again and it's the exact same situation. If I hit the home button the phone continues to run. But if I exit using the back key several times it does shut down. The reason I wasn't doing that originally is because I wanted the app to open to a certain page. Looks like that isn't possible, but at least I can use the app again.

Wonder if we need a separate list for apps that need to be exited correctly?
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Bump.
I have bump installed and my phone sleeps just fine.
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Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm kinda thinking I'll leave it up there and you can decide for yourself if you want to deal with it or any of the other IM apps.
eBuddy is the only multi-IM app I've found that doesn't drain the battery like crazy. Sadly it has other issues that I wish I could move away from it (like it doesn't tell me when people are idle on Yahoo, and I'm not a fan of the bubble layout).

I just tried meebo again and lost 25% of my battery in an hour.

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Oh, I was just looking through eBuddy and there is an option to "Extend battery life" which I have enabled, so maybe that's why my battery isn't crap when using it. it says messages may be delayed up to 15 minutes when app is in background, so I guess it just doesn't check for messages as often?
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Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm kinda thinking I'll leave it up there and you can decide for yourself if you want to deal with it or any of the other IM apps.
Just because thats how it functions, doesnt mean its OK. This thread is for apps that won't let the phone sleep, and Meebo is one of them, regardless of how its used.
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Any way to stop Flickr?
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I know that someone answered my question about how to tell what application is keeping your phone awake before but now that I have my phone I am confused. I have tons of "backgroud" applications:
Accounts & Sync
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So anyone of these apps could cause problems to my system? Should I uninstall apps that are listed as backgroud? How do I know which of these could cause poor battery life?
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I know that someone answered my question about how to tell what application is keeping your phone awake before but now that I have my phone I am confused. I have tons of "backgroud" applications:
Accounts & Sync
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My Verizon
News and Weather
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So anyone of these apps could cause problems to my system? Should I uninstall apps that are listed as backgroud? How do I know which of these could cause poor battery life?
Check for the ones that update automatically while using the 3G Radio to download new data in the background. ANYTHING that uses 3G extensively, whether your phone is "on" or not, will KILL your battery VERY quickly.

You will have to go through each of those app's settings manually for the most part to check.

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Try settings > date and time> uncheck automatic time update. Phone sleeps like a baby now.
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the System Panel application makes it easy to tell which apps are keeping the phone awake. use the live monitoring feature and it'll show which apps use cpu and when. this app is just great. the live monitoring doesn't seem to use any extra battery from my experience. i leave it running 100% of the time and i get great battery life.

also, i find it helps to back out of apps instead of just hitting home when you're done. when i back out of an app i notice that the app shows up in the inactive list inside of system panel instead of the active column. inactive meaning that it's sitting idle, but cached and ready to be started right back up if asked to.
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removed my lock and ATK and installed system panel and lockbot and instantly got better battery life. the only thing i notice that consistently drains my battery is streaming radio. i use the sirius/xm app.
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Yeah anything streaming will kill battery life really. Engadget widget although doesn't keep the phone awake persay it def drains battery life. I ended up getting rid of it and added engadget RSS to feedr.

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I had a problem with the Pandora widget not letting my phone sleep. One of my coworkers had the same issue.
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also, i find it helps to back out of apps instead of just hitting home when you're done.
I also found this to be extremely important. Several apps I had issues with were all resolved by simply backing out. Little frustrating, but easy enough.

Also, using SystemPanel there is a very easy way to find out if it's a background app or an active app that is keeping your phone awake.

1. Open SystemPanel
2. Click End All
3. Make sure the level stops at Background Apps and hit End Tasks.
4. Check sleep status.

If it's fixed, you'll have to reboot and end the background tasks one by one till you find the culprit. If it's still staying awake, then just start killing the active apps. This can help save a lot of time when you're not sure where to start.
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Speaking of Meebo and AIM, I like both but HATE the drain on the battery. Is there any way to integrate Facebook chat into Google Talk? I would like to see if a native Google App would be less of a drain on my phone than those two. I've looked into it an you have to use a 3rd party client like XMPP or Jabber. I can't seem to get them to work. Anyone else tried this yet?
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Fring kept my phone awake.
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I also found this to be extremely important. Several apps I had issues with were all resolved by simply backing out. Little frustrating, but easy enough.

Also, using SystemPanel there is a very easy way to find out if it's a background app or an active app that is keeping your phone awake.

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I tried that but it didn't work. I killed everything but the power and the phone stayed awake. Until I restarted. Then it slept the rest of the day while off. It usually happens once a day, all at random times, then I simply restart and it goes away. But it sucks that I can't figure it out.

On a side note, not totally OT, I believe that battery life is simply due to how long the phone is "awake" vs. "up time". I have found it really doesn't matter what I'm doing (other than talking non stop) while the phone is awake. Internet, FB, GPS, email, doesn't matter as long as the phone sleeps when I hit the button. But when the phone doesn't sleep everything runs all the time and the battery drains like a sieve.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 10:10 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I've had a new battery drain and tracked it to Gmail Unread Count. It was HAMMERING my battery life. Sadly, I uninstalled it because otherwise it's a great app.
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I'm trying something now. When my phone goes into the uptime=awake time mode I have to shut it down to fix it. But the shutdown takes some time whereas it usually doesn't. I'm thinking that ADW Launcher might be causing it. I uninstalled and will monitor.

Edit: ADW was not it. Happened again today. Phone will just not go to sleep, time to reboot again.
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You should add Beautiful Widgets to the list. It kept my phone awake before and after a hard reset. The after was with almost no other apps installed.

http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-incredible/100249-help-up-time-awake-time.html
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