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Old April 10th, 2011, 03:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Post For what it's worth.. Windows emulation on Android!

Windows emulation on Android! ok I know, I know,, please do not flame I have a very successful and tried and true windows emulator for Unix, ported for Linix.. ok sure all you programmers already see where this can go now that the "smart phone hardware is actually a "puter..
with the more powerful.. ie processor,ram ect of the smart phone's they not only can run win7 mobile<<< that's easy but should be able to run a more optioned Android OS what a true windows desktop emulator.. (virtual desktop's still too resource intensive)... so a multi-boot scenario would work.... one thing i have learned from MIT is hardware is always the only real block to what can be done.... script's are scripts.. if they are economized well in processor communication, and the processor is fast enough with the other hardware to back it it can be done we all have proof of this basic principle in our hands,... this little 1ghz indulge...
I do not know who all would want this but I am sure the ability to use the smart phone as a windows software running puter would be fun for some... so....
this thread...... the root team WILL accomplish they're goal they have enough minds together to do it.. sooo I will work on some after full root fun this being the first...

ok I have android running on a 1.5 gig AMDx2 with 2 gigs ram.. I am going to flash bios to emulate behavior of our smart phone's and use it as main test bed... I also have purchased a full rooted Lightening.... it will be my Hardware test bed for final debugging.... this will be offered here when complete for a time but then i will commercially distribute... the 2nd version... you all deserve the first free you gave me the idea..

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Don't forget architecture differences. While windows so far has been running on 16/32/64-bit x86 or powerpc based chips, the indulge's hummingbird processor is ARMv7. That will require some headache pills first before you begin!
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Don't forget architecture differences. While windows so far has been running on 16/32/64-bit x86 or powerpc based chips, the indulge's hummingbird processor is ARMv7. That will require some headache pills first before you begin!
armv7 based processors ie hummingbird, snap dragon ect... the win7 mobile is ARM7... port not too tough will require way tight clean script..
small and fast.... our samsung phone has a reduced ARM7..instruction set besides the fact that Arm7 is already reduced instruction set computer (RISC) instruction set architecture (ISA) but then reduction is the aim for speed verses broad support,, the instruction set of any chip has always been the manufacturers version of compromise...... I'm to first get the common calls used by Android to processor.. then birge.. comvert.. but the biggest problem for me is the 32 bit bus so to speak i would love twice the data lanes.
it's all in the bridge scripting...aka drivers and lotta brandy when needed
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even more so there was an announcement of MS to possibly bring a windows 7 client to arm based tablets and other devices, i know windows runs a beta testing site i have not yet looked to see if there might be anything there

connect.microsoft.com

i also know that there was a windows 7 launcher made ages ago that not only looked like it but was very useful and did a lot more then just look like it, might be worth checking into it for your project.
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i have never used or played with the Windows Mobile 7 platform, but i thought it was a complete "revamp" to the Windows Mobile 6.5 and lower platforms. at the time of it's release i was not ready for "change" being comfortable with the 5.0 to 6.5 versions. but from what i have read it's not too different from 6.5 to 7 in how threads/processes on any CPU architecture are handled right? and the Indulge is capable of this? running the emulation? it saddens me to ask this question but does the new Mobile 7 series run executable files?????
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yes it will do .exe and you also can play with emulation on your desktop pc to sort-a see how it is ..ect
and win7 phone is NOT revamped or updated 6.... it is as diff to 6 Mobile as windows7 is to windows 95-xp

here are a few sites for you to look at also google lots of info since 7 mobile release... but remember it is not ever going to have as many app and configuration options as you get with android...
as a matter of fact android will be the reason finally we will by 2 years have 2 different OS's to choose for a PC no comsumer will ever again be "stuck with either Apple, or Microslopp"
Android has brought open source Linux into main stream..
Sun finally will have it's revenge!!!!!!

Starting custom executable apps in Windows Phone 7 | PocketHacks.com

How To Run Windows Phone 7 Series Emulator Without Visual Studio 2010 | Jaxov
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MicroSlopp lol nice one, i haven't heard much about the Android OS on computers lately. and from what a lot of closest friends have said "i can't use Android without a touch screen, if you take Android and place it on an average desktop/laptop/netbook computer with the same specs you see today (sans touch screens) it would just feel too different" i did consider trying out the OS on my computer but i think touchscreens and Android go hand in hand so maybe Tablets will replace computers as information on the internet replaced computers.

history question: OSX and Windows are based on Linux and the 2 companies actually have a sort of "underground" partnership in the licenses for Linux, but now that Android has breathed this breath of fresh air into Linux are the big 2, Apple and Microsoft going to treat Google like a half brother from another family and sort of remain distant or will they "get along"? you know like how Microsoft gave Apple over 5 Million a few years back so they have "breathing room"?
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MicroSlopp lol nice one, i haven't heard much about the Android OS on computers lately. and from what a lot of closest friends have said "i can't use Android without a touch screen, if you take Android and place it on an average desktop/laptop/netbook computer with the same specs you see today (sans touch screens) it would just feel too different" i did consider trying out the OS on my computer but i think touchscreens and Android go hand in hand so maybe Tablets will replace computers as information on the internet replaced computers.

history question: OSX and Windows are based on Linux and the 2 companies actually have a sort of "underground" partnership in the licenses for Linux, but now that Android has breathed this breath of fresh air into Linux are the big 2, Apple and Microsoft going to treat Google like a half brother from another family and sort of remain distant or will they "get along"? you know like how Microsoft gave Apple over 5 Million a few years back so they have "breathing room"?
Steve Jobs and Bill gates are viciously opposed...
both microslopp and crapple run on war like business principle's they have always tried to kill any and all competition including each other.. Sun,IBM,Microsoft,Apple, core operating systems... in direct competition for ALL computing systems... in other words they all would like to be the "ONLY CHOICE"
Sun along with a few"partners" released unix core opensource as a way to get back at the others,,,, Microsoft venged with the Java debacle.. as far as the consumer,,ie not business share of the OS market both apple and Microsoft have acquired, either by buy out or hostile means any and all competitor's since '94 to date .... Linux is a very viable alternative to all the others for both PC and Corporate solutions... though it has always been looked at as hobbyist or ugly sibling by most consumers and manufacturers..
Basically you will now find a Linux core in many devices,, DLNA media equipment..smart phones, tablets and such.. Android is just a custom version of Linux to simplify. what i was commenting on was the NOW the entire cat is out of the bag and both Apple and Microsoft are crapping their pants as they look to the future.. by 3 years there WILL be 3 viable accepted OS choices.... and one--Linux will be the one with WAY more Free and small charge updates and customizations..... Ubuntu is very nice
check this out The Top 7 Best Linux Distributions for You | Linux.com

ok that will at least let you see of what i was commenting.....
BTW I use Linux/Unix for all my corporate systems.
though i am personally an mcsd

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Help! I'm a prisoner of Windows Mobile (not to be confused with Windows Phone, which is a new OS that doesn't run WinMo applications and is the newest walled-garden on the block).

I've used WinMo it since it was called Pocket PC a decade ago - before the inclusion of a telephone - and there are a few applications that I use daily that run only under WinMo, including Pocket Quicken, PC Anywhere Mobile, and a few music players. Pocket Quicken's developer, Landware, has actually been cut off from future development by Intuit, which has not deigned to release - or let anyone else release - newer pocket clients, so I'm also trapped in an old version of desktop Quicken!

I've just gotten my fiancee a Droid 2 Global and am very impressed with it - but without these crucial apps, I can't switch - so availability of a WinMo emulator on an android phone to run these apps would allow me to desert the sinking ship of Windows Mobile, which has been abandoned by Microsoft in favor of its effort to copy all the mistakes of the first iPhone.

WinMo was what Android is: an open system that anyone could develop and sell apps for without permission from the OS proprietor. If a migration path was made available, many of us old WinMo users would move to Android in a minute. Just give us a way to run old WinMo apps on an Android phone!
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Well your probably completely out of luck on Pocket Quicken. There is some rumor that there might be an app coming out, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Might want to look and see if Mint.com and their app can fulfill your needs. Beyond that there are some apps in the app store to help inputting transactions but that is about it.

PC Anywhere Mobile can be replaced by any number of remote desktop control apps. Personally I favor TeamViewer.

Music players also is not a problem, there is plenty available if the built in one isn't good enough for you.

My advice - move on and get an Android phone. Worse case scenario you can carry the WinMo around as a PDA (phone service isn't necessary for to function). Somehow I bet you will be able replace it completely even if you find you must live without an app or two.
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Why not just wait for Windows 8 to come out which will support ARM devices and see if there any modification can be done from there. But considering Windows system requirement, you better have a quadcore ARM phone ready.
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...And 8gigs of ram, and the fastest gpu out on the market, all for a measly performance!
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Well your probably completely out of luck on Pocket Quicken. There is some rumor that there might be an app coming out, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Might want to look and see if Mint.com and their app can fulfill your needs. Beyond that there are some apps in the app store to help inputting transactions but that is about it.

PC Anywhere Mobile can be replaced by any number of remote desktop control apps. Personally I favor TeamViewer.

Music players also is not a problem, there is plenty available if the built in one isn't good enough for you.

My advice - move on and get an Android phone. Worse case scenario you can carry the WinMo around as a PDA (phone service isn't necessary for to function). Somehow I bet you will be able replace it completely even if you find you must live without an app or two.
yes, I use winmo from 2004, and just jump to android, the big trouble for me is the data of spb finance cannot migrate to new platform. and i have no choice but start from beginning with financisto.
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