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Old May 22nd, 2011, 08:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Don't know about anyone else, but I noticed yesterday that Setup|Applications now has a checkbox to allow installation of Non-Market applications.

I checked the box, e-mailed myself HelloIOIO.apk, installed it and ran it with no problems.

Perfect!

Boy, I am behind the times - didn't work earlier this week, though...

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Don't know about anyone else, but I noticed yesterday that Setup|Applications now has a checkbox to allow installation of Non-Market applications.

I checked the box, e-mailed myself HelloIOIO.apk, installed it and ran it with no problems.

Perfect!

Boy, I am behind the times - didn't work earlier this week, though...

Do you have 2.3 on yours? I looked cuz I was kinda ticked when I realized at&t doesn't allow 3rd party apps.
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They are changing their policy on allowing 3rd party apps so they are pushing an update OTA that now allows phones on the att network to download apps from 3rd party sources.
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@Kairo,

No, I have 2.2.1 - the new check box just showed up some time in the last week or so. Hopefully, you'll see it soon on yours.
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No, I have 2.2.1 - the new check box just showed up some time in the last week or so. Hopefully, you'll see it soon on yours.
That's what I have. I get lost after the major update but phone info says 2.2.1. I've even checked for updates and haven't seen any.
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You dont have to keep checking the att/htc update menu on the phone cause its an automatic update pushed to the phone. Just look under the applications menu and eventually it will be there. So to check if you have it
Menu-settings-applications-unknown sources (if you see this option then you got the update)
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I just bought one last weekend. The 'unknown resource' is not there. What is the firmware version? Mine is 1.84.502.11 xxx-release
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same story...still no option, same build
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same story...still no option, same build
I have the same problem. Talked to around 10 tech support and maybe 3-4 customer service. Nada.

Check out my thread about this.. at the last post I linked an XDA temp root that solves this problem. I just did it tonight and it worked.

sideload update... FAIL! :-(

If you are desperate you might want to try it. I don't know what it does to the warranty and insurance though so use it at your own risk.
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I don't know that it's necessarily a "Fail" that a phone with no battery in it (because it was sitting in a box in a storeroom) did not receive the update.
I'm curious, though. When they push updates like this, is it usually a one-shot deal?
If, for example, my phone is powered down for some reason during the next update, how often do they refresh the update signal?
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I think I got mine while traveling from Alabama back to Mississippi. My phone was dying so I turned it off. It still updated although its possible it updated before that and I just didn't notice.
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I'm curious, though. When they push updates like this, is it usually a one-shot deal?
If, for example, my phone is powered down for some reason during the next update, how often do they refresh the update signal?
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Mine updated over night with the phone off. I usually tend to turn mine off nightly and before I went to sleep i checked, nothing turned it off then turned it on around 5 checked maybe 45mins later and it was there. My husband got his like the next day and he never turns his phone off.
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tech support from HTC told me you can dial *#*#CHECKIN#*#* to refresh all the updates. :-)

Didn't work for me though, had to temp root mine to get Amazon App Store.
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Go to settings applications and all apps. Look for customizable settings provider clear data press back once scroll down for setting clear data and it will unlock sideloading no root works on 2.2.1 stock
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Go to settings applications and all apps. Look for customizable settings provider clear data press back once scroll down for setting clear data and it will unlock sideloading no root works on 2.2.1 stock

Gave this a try on a friends inspire who wasn't getting the update and it worked. But be warned that you may lose some settings, in my friends case the only things she lost were the wallpaper she had set and her ringtone (went back to default.) at least that is all she told me had changed at that moment.
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Glad I got the update. I would hate to lose my ring tone. I hate the standard at&t ringtone.
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I just bought one last weekend. The 'unknown resource' is not there. What is the firmware version? Mine is 1.84.502.11 xxx-release
Log into your AT&T acct and click on chat with tech support. I did this and 5 min later I had "enable unknown sources" on my phone. She (Shannon Carter) knew exactly what I was talking about. I just finished loading swype 3.0, a lot better than my stock Inspire keyboard.
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Perfect! Nice post!!
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Log into your AT&T acct and click on chat with tech support. I did this and 5 min later I had "enable unknown sources" on my phone. She (Shannon Carter) knew exactly what I was talking about. I just finished loading swype 3.0, a lot better than my stock Inspire keyboard.
I've had them push it to me probably 6 times. Still nothing........... they are telling me the Inspire isn't cabable......... They are sending my case up the ladder so to speak.
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what method of root did you use
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Well, that is the second time I did that, with the clearing of the settings as metioned above, and both time, my mms wont work. cant send pics or receive them. Had to master reset to get it to work. I am running the htc inspire with 2.2.1
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Well, that is the second time I did that, with the clearing of the settings as metioned above, and both time, my mms wont work. cant send pics or receive them. Had to master reset to get it to work. I am running the htc inspire with 2.2.1
For anyone that did that method of clearing the settings if you do the upgrade to gingerbread then it will fix the mms settings no need for a master reset.
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Go to settings applications and all apps. Look for customizable settings provider clear data press back once scroll down for setting clear data and it will unlock sideloading no root works on 2.2.1 stock

wow... 10/10 post, this is what the internet is for!!

for others, i have not done anything to produce this stellar advice, but i have a microscopic bit of clairty to add, and am going to rewrite the above to make it beyond simple because i know many phone users aren't techy, and i hope those users find this thread because AT&T are a bunch of evil bastards, we should never be at this point, they suck, we dont...

to verify as well, this works on a rock stock Inspire running 2.2.1, and running this recipe only reset my wallpaper, i dont see that i lost a thing... icons, apps, messages, email, all still there, except now i have the illusive unknown applications check off

- from home screen
- tap menu
- tap settings
- tap applications (scroll down a little)
- (note your unknown services check is missing)
- tap manage applications
- tap the tab that says all (for all applications)
- scroll down to "customization settings provider", tap once
- tap clear data, say ok to popup
- press back once (back to all applications list)
- scroll way down to "settings", tap once
- tap clear data, say ok to popup
- go fix wallpaper if req'd

you're done.. hit the back button or return to the applications settings and viola your check box for unknown services are now there

big thanks to brianb76 for this, i was half postal ready to root my phone and cuss out some poor ATT slave
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wow... 10/10 post, this is what the internet is for!!

for others, i have not done anything to produce this stellar advice, but i have a microscopic bit of clairty to add, and am going to rewrite the above to make it beyond simple because i know many phone users aren't techy, and i hope those users find this thread because AT&T are a bunch of evil bastards, we should never be at this point, they suck, we dont...

to verify as well, this works on a rock stock Inspire running 2.2.1, and running this recipe only reset my wallpaper, i dont see that i lost a thing... icons, apps, messages, email, all still there, except now i have the illusive unknown applications check off

- from home screen
- tap menu
- tap settings
- tap applications (scroll down a little)
- (note your unknown services check is missing)
- tap manage applications
- tap the tab that says all (for all applications)
- scroll down to "customization settings provider", tap once
- tap clear data, say ok to popup
- press back once (back to all applications list)
- scroll way down to "settings", tap once
- tap clear data, say ok to popup
- go fix wallpaper if req'd

you're done.. hit the back button or return to the applications settings and viola your check box for unknown services are now there

big thanks to brianb76 for this, i was half postal ready to root my phone and cuss out some poor ATT slave
By doing this, you will most likely lose the ability to send MMS messages, requiring a factory reset or upgrade to GB to get it back, if you want that capability. But, hey, at least you can install non-market apps.
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By doing this, you will most likely lose the ability to send MMS messages, requiring a factory reset or upgrade to GB to get it back, if you want that capability. But, hey, at least you can install non-market apps.

edit: crap!! you are right, it won't send... well that sucks, does a factory reset wipe the phone? i'm not down for that, i have a ton of pictures i haven't backed up yet

speaking of gingerbread, i am not a part of the family on this either, still 2.2.1 here, my phone thinks its up to date so i'm on this update.. how do i force it?
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edit: crap!! you are right, it won't send... well that sucks, does a factory reset wipe the phone? i'm not down for that, i have a ton of pictures i haven't backed up yet

speaking of gingerbread, i am not a part of the family on this either, still 2.2.1 here, my phone thinks its up to date so i'm on this update.. how do i force it?

Yes a factory reset will clear the phone of all apps and whatnot saved on the phone.

For the gingerbread update its under the htc wifi update not the att one. Make sure you are on wifi.
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Yes a factory reset will clear the phone of all apps and whatnot saved on the phone.

For the gingerbread update its under the htc wifi update not the att one. Make sure you are on wifi.

well i dont have any wireless... do i need to go pimp out a starbucks or something?? free wifi there usually

and i did indeed break the MMS, and have also found the APN settings that probably got wiped out are greyed out or locked.. and making a new APN using the cingular values fixes haven't worked either

so will going gingerbread fix my ordeal here? you guys are pretty helpful, i would buy you a beer anyday
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well i dont have any wireless... do i need to go pimp out a starbucks or something?? free wifi there usually

and i did indeed break the MMS, and have also found the APN settings that probably got wiped out are greyed out or locked.. and making a new APN using the cingular values fixes haven't worked either

so will going gingerbread fix my ordeal here? you guys are pretty helpful, i would buy you a beer anyday
Yeah you will need a wifi source to get the update.

And att locked the APN on the phone so it couldn't be tinkered with. Mine has always been grey and said not set.
On a side note if you are using the work around to unlock the hotspot feature to tether for free be prepared to lose that once you upgrade to gingerbread. Att has figured out how to block this loophole and included it with the gingerbread update.
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well i dont have any wireless... do i need to go pimp out a starbucks or something?? free wifi there usually

and i did indeed break the MMS, and have also found the APN settings that probably got wiped out are greyed out or locked.. and making a new APN using the cingular values fixes haven't worked either

so will going gingerbread fix my ordeal here? you guys are pretty helpful, i would buy you a beer anyday
Yes, upgrading to GB will fix the MMS issue. The only way to do that without wiping your phone is with the OTA update. It will also give you the ability to install non-market apps. But it also introduces a lot of other issues that are frustrating a lot of users. I suggest reading through this forum for a while and decide what is best for you. Keep in mind that the factory reset only wipes the internal memory on the phone. The SD card is not wiped. Pictures are saved on the SD card. And if you get all your apps through the android market or amazon, you should be able to reinstall them. Primarily what you will lose are the settings and customizations. Personally, I did the OTA shortly after getting my phone and haven't come across one of these GB issues that I haven't been able to find a solution or workaround. If you can't get access to WiFi you can download the GB RUU to your computer from the HTC website. However running that will wipe your phone as well.
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Yeah you will need a wifi source to get the update.

And att locked the APN on the phone so it couldn't be tinkered with. Mine has always been grey and said not set.
On a side note if you are using the work around to unlock the hotspot feature to tether for free be prepared to lose that once you upgrade to gingerbread. Att has figured out how to block this loophole and included it with the gingerbread update.

no, not trying to tether.. i paid for 2gigs and i'm good with that, i am not trying to internet my neighborhood or need this phone for home access or hotspoting at all, i just want the phone working cuz i broke it and use MMS for work and play

i'd root my way around this if i had the time and energy, but i have kids and soccer and an extra job at the moment, its all i can do to get 5 hrs sleep.. i dont have the time to commit even though it looks like there is a mountain of info, and i'm missing out on hacking my setup which i'd be down for, i love hacking even though it bites me in the arse like this... live and learn eh

anyways i will read up on GB and see if anything strikes me, otherwse i'll hit starbucks up the street and go for it... this whole work around just reminds me why ATT ticks me off, i sooooo wont miss them someday

sorry to bust this thread up with support, maybe we can summarize this later or mod delete... i will report back.. thanks guys!!
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Yes, upgrading to GB will fix the MMS issue. The only way to do that without wiping your phone is with the OTA update. It will also give you the ability to install non-market apps. But it also introduces a lot of other issues that are frustrating a lot of users. I suggest reading through this forum for a while and decide what is best for you. Keep in mind that the factory reset only wipes the internal memory on the phone. The SD card is not wiped. Pictures are saved on the SD card. And if you get all your apps through the android market or amazon, you should be able to reinstall them. Primarily what you will lose are the settings and customizations. Personally, I did the OTA shortly after getting my phone and haven't come across one of these GB issues that I haven't been able to find a solution or workaround. If you can't get access to WiFi you can download the GB RUU to your computer from the HTC website. However running that will wipe your phone as well.

yeah.. gingerbread doesn't exactly read as stable, looks like issues are pretty hit and miss.. maybe i'll hang back and see if 2.3 gets bumped, not sure its worth it, nor am i sure that unknown applications was worth it either
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Mods feel free to edit this thread to condense the info if you wish..I wasn't trying to turn this into a support thread except this fix breaks your phone.


I spent almost an hour on the phone today.. first with ATT level 1, then level 2, then a conf call with HTC and level 2 trying to fix the MMS which died with this unknown sources fix. Well they eventually gave up, we tried all kinds of stuff,short of a factory wipe. Level 2 guy was totally cool, apologized even though I stated that I was sure I was the problem, however he mentioned he receives 6-7 calls a day related to this phone and a similar, but not identical issue.

Well he was ready to authorize an in store phone swap if the store couldn't fix it, and also wrote some kinda high level bug report, which I guess they do if you call in with a whopper that they can resolve. Well after stumping both ATT and HTC I guess I had met the whopper criteria LOL.

With nothing left to lose, I hitched up a WiFi connection and went to 2.3.3, or gingerbread as its called. Lucky for me, the install was flawless, the phone fully works, and as mentioned above, the update fixed my MMS. Personally I'm done with troubleshooting phones for now, this was enough fun for me.
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edit: crap!! you are right, it won't send... well that sucks, does a factory reset wipe the phone? i'm not down for that, i have a ton of pictures i haven't backed up yet

speaking of gingerbread, i am not a part of the family on this either, still 2.2.1 here, my phone thinks its up to date so i'm on this update.. how do i force it?
I have been led to believe that the free app called HandCent cures the MMS problem. Also my wallpaper is stuck on the first choice. Not that it makes a difference because I like it also.
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I have been led to believe that the free app called HandCent cures the MMS problem. Also my wallpaper is stuck on the first choice. Not that it makes a difference because I like it also.

Handcent will not fix or bypass the mms issue with the clearing settings steps to get unknown sources.
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Handcent will not fix or bypass the mms issue with the clearing settings steps to get unknown sources.
Well lucky me...I don't text and my email is on Googles cloud, so I seem to be OK. Though with Amazon wanting my credit card to give me a free app, sideloading is superfluous. The Market has had everything I need so far anyway. And I'll wait until the Gingerbread upgrade is stable with no more complaints before I upgrade.
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