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Old July 1st, 2013, 10:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm new to rooting Samsung having only had HTC before.

I haven't rooted my phone yet but want to take the plunge...there seems to be two options though - I need advice on whether I should I use a pre-rooted rom or chainfire to root?

I was thinking of using the chainfire method and then installing Phil's touch recovery. Is this the recover you folks would recommend?


From here I would like to make nandroid my phone in recovery and then backup my apps using titanium.

I think i could use triangle away to enable OTA updates?

I'd like to also use the foldermount method to move some apps over to my SD card.


Is all of this sensible.. can I do this without a full wipe?





What also confuses me is there are pre-rooted ROMs available -DjeMBeY ROM's for example.

It seems these are an easier way to root and don't require wiping the phone ..I'd rather avoid setting my phone up all over again.

What concerns me is that it seems to be an either or choice -
. .. I see there are specific versions of Omega for those with a recovery installed and those using pre-rooted roms.

Is there any benefit to using a pre-rooted rom? Apart from not having an "insecure kernel?"

Would it to limit my choice further down the line on which ROM's I could flash? Or could I install a pre-rooted rom and then install a recovery and have the same end result as using chainfire?

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Old July 1st, 2013, 11:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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if it makes any difference I'm running:

AP:I9505XXUAMDM

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I'm new to rooting Samsung having only had HTC before.

I haven't rooted my phone yet but want to take the plunge...there seems to be two options though - I need advice on whether I should I use a pre-rooted rom or chainfire to root?

I was thinking of using the chainfire method and then installing Phil's touch recovery. Is this the recover you folks would recommend?


From here I would like to make nandroid my phone in recovery and then backup my apps using titanium.

That is the best method for rooting and installing a custom recovery to all stock firmware, as described in the step-by-step guide, Rooting Galaxy S4 - Dummies Guide. It's 4 posts contain everything you should ever need to know about rooting, recovery and apps to install and backups to make.

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I think i could use triangle away to enable OTA updates?
Are you confusing Triangle Away with ROM Manager?

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I'd like to also use the foldermount method to move some apps over to my SD card.
You will need to install either stock firmware or a custom ROM that is based on MEA or later

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Is all of this sensible.. can I do this without a full wipe?
That should be possible but, as with any flashing procedure, back as much as possible up first.


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What also confuses me is there are pre-rooted ROMs available -DjeMBeY ROM's for example.

It seems these are an easier way to root and don't require wiping the phone ..I'd rather avoid setting my phone up all over again.
DjeMBeY ROM's i9505 - Dummies Guide is also a step-by-step guide for installing pre-rooted ROMS with recovery. The main difference is that you are limited to installing whichever ROM the dev brings out whilst the previous method will root any firmware.

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What concerns me is that it seems to be an either or choice -
. .. I see there are specific versions of Omega for those with a recovery installed and those using pre-rooted roms.

Is there any benefit to using a pre-rooted rom? Apart from not having an "insecure kernel?"

Would it to limit my choice further down the line on which ROM's I could flash? Or could I install a pre-rooted rom and then install a recovery and have the same end result as using chainfire?

Whichever method you use to root will be overwritten by the next stock firmware, which will require re-rooting, or custom ROM, that may or may not be pre-rooted or require a custom recovery.

The bottom line is... it doesn't matter which method you choose as your next flash will over write it.

The choice... is yours!

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if it makes any difference I'm running:

AP:I9505XXUAMDM

CP:I9505XXUAMDM

CSC: I9505XXAMDB

That is stock, unbranded, UK firmware, MDM, which is the latest for your CSC code.

I think that that should read... CSC: I9505OXXAMDB
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thanks for the reply... I think I'll go with my gut and root with Chainfire which will allow me to backup before I flash.


"that should be possible but, as with any flashing procedure, back as much as possible up first."
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Helium from the Play Store is very highly rated by un-rooted users for being able to backup the most things.
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Can I just check please that this is the right ROM for my phone... and is it just the pre-rooted rom file I need? Thanks

Model: GT-I9505 (4.2.2)
PDA: XXUBMF8
PHONE: XXUBMF8
CSC: OXABMF8 (8 codes)
Kernel: 3.4.0-917495 (19.06)
Build Date: 19.06.2013
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Pre-Rooted ROM: Downloads: <<< Android Host >>>

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Can I just check please that this is the right ROM for my phone... and is it just the pre-rooted rom file I need? Thanks

Model: GT-I9505 (4.2.2)
PDA: XXUBMF8
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CSC: OXABMF8 (8 codes)
Kernel: 3.4.0-917495 (19.06)
Build Date: 19.06.2013
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Pre-Rooted ROM: Downloads: <<< Android Host >>>

I9505XXUBMF8-PRE-ROOTED-ODEX-FULL.rar
Just checking, which ROM is it?
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Just checking, which ROM is it?
No idea... seems to be the latest one in the official stock packages...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
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No idea... seems to be the latest one in the official stock packages...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
OK. With you now. It's DjeMBeY's official, stock, rooted ROM, MF8 we're talking about. That is fine to flash to your i9505.
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Thanks.. I just get nervous with all the talk about flashing modems and csc..even the downloads aren't clear.. there are loads of files for each version..I think I just need the actual rom zip though. I just can't decide whether to take a gamble and hope that I don't need a factory reset after flashing the rom or whether I should root with cf and then install Phil's recovery then nandroid before flashing.. the question is..do I feel lucky? .
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That's the file I flashed. Worked a treat ;-) rooted and updated my firmware and got rid of bloat ware in one easy step.....
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