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Old July 21st, 2013, 02:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, after much pressure from the kids to upgrade their phones, I dived straight in at the deep and and also upgraded my splendid S2 to an S4.


Now does anyone know of any decent rooting guides?
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Hello and welcome to Android Forums,. S4, ATR, Hawker!

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Well, after much pressure from the kids to upgrade their phones, I dived straight in at the deep and and also upgraded my splendid S2 to an S4.


Now does anyone know of any decent rooting guides?
In answer to your question... errr, let me think...





(Need more coffee... lots more! Hawker would have to pick a day when I have a steaming hangover, to join and ask questions)
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In answer to your question... errr, let me think...





(Need more coffee... lots more! Hawker would have to pick a day when I have a steaming hangover, to join and ask questions)
I'm all rooted and philz recoveried up butty, so you can continue your hangover in peace!


General gripe tho, why am I finding it so difficult to get into recovery mode?
Takes me about 5 goes at times.
I'll have to install a 4-way reboot and fast!....
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I'm all rooted and philz recoveried up butty, so you can continue your hangover in peace!


General gripe tho, why am I finding it so difficult to get into recovery mode?
Takes me about 5 goes at times.
I'll have to install a 4-way reboot and fast!....
Using ROM Manager with PhilZ, see the PhilZ CWM Recovery - Dummies Guide, #1.7, boots me up in about 10 sec's.

I would suggest, when you have finished playing with stock, getting off the old ME2 ROM and get on to MGA, stock, modified, unbranded. See #1.2 of the DjeMBeY ROM's i9505 - Dummies Guide.

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Good to finally see you over here sir hawker...

Now where is your cleaning script :-P

Seriously though I've found that with booting into recovery I was maybe just holding the volume button to close to the middle, that and I wouldn't take my fingers off volume or home until I saw the blue writing!
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Right!... on 3rd coffee now and I'm doing shapes and colours!

So, Hawker old boy! You emerged from your cave on Mount Doom in the Welsh Mountains and gone and got yourself a Samsung Galaxy S4, i9505, I presume.

I can now disclose why Hawker took so long to join us on the S4....

It stems from the fact that in Wales, a small principality in the UK, there are a lot of people with the same surnames, like Jones, Morgan, Davies, etc: Something you'll know if you've ever seen The Englishman who went up a Hill and came down a Mountain or Zulu. We won't go into the reasons for that just now. Therefore, to distinguish between them they have nicknames or add-ons like, Morgan the Goat, Jones the Builder, Postman the Pat, etc:

Unfortunately, Hawker is known as, Hawker the Flasher!

Anyway, long story short, he needed me to confirm why he was known as this. I might have been able to help him a lot quicker if he'd told me that the police in Wales are called, "Heddlu".

... and that is a true story... teetotallers honour!

Anyway, back on topic. You've no doubt discovered that there is not a great deal of difference between the SGSII that, I hasten to add, was/is IMHO, a blooming good phone, and the S4.

Samsung have actually done all us modders a favour by building a phone and giving us the battery that can deal not only with Android 4.2.2 but also all the extra features and bloatware that Samsung have added on...

Because this means that when the bloatware is removed, depending on your definition of bloatware, you have a stonking, powerhouse, of a phone and battery.

Things you may notice, coming from the SGSII...

1. No combined root kernel and recovery so far.

2. Modems on the i9505 have to be flashed via Odin.

3. CWM is replaced by ROM Manager

4. Some things that Samsung have added are actually very good. For instance, their camera is far superior to the stock, Android 4.3 Special Edition, camera as there are a lot more, easy to access, settings and you can store stuff on the extSDcard which you cannot do on the stock Android SE.

5. The S4 has an LED indicator.

6. ES Explorer doesn't, "seem", to offer read/write system changes and I'm using Root Explorer. Update... should read, "special permissions".

There are other things that I'm sure I've forgotten...


(P.S. Syd seems to have lost his Kiss of Death, (KoD), with ROMs and kernels and has therefore shown a distinct yellow streak when it comes to testing anything a bit, "iffy", in case he spoils his nice S4.)
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If you use an app such as shortcut maker and search for torch light, you have a hidden setting to allow you to use the torch with the screen off.

This is a stock method, but I don't know what firmware it becomes available from(I had found it on mdm, but it didn't work, mf8 it did work but became temperamental! Regardless I now have it coming on by touching home button on lockscreen thanks to 3 minute mod :-) )

Just another of the little add ons on stock :-)
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That reminds me, before anyone else starts making demands on you...

I need, pretty please with a cherry on top, a transparent notification bar with a centred clock and the round battery with the % in the middle that is a, "tart", mod that I can flash to any build version via custom recovery. Same as the one I had to grovel for on the SGSII.

No pressure old boy... tomorrow will do!
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That reminds me, before anyone else starts making demands on you...

I need, pretty please with a cherry on top, a transparent notification bar with a centred clock and the round battery with the % in the middle that is a, "tart", mod that I can flash to any build version via custom recovery. Same as the one I had to grovel for on the SGSII.

No pressure old boy... tomorrow will do!
Have you tried 3 minute mod?
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I want Hawker's mod!!!

Besides, I don't want to overwrite the Dual Fix framework I'm using
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Just remember this is a family forum regardless of what part of Hawker you want ;-)
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good to see ya again hawker

was wondering, what rom did you opt for?
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I'm just running the slim version of DjeMBeY's stock UBMGA ROM.
Very early days to make any worthwhile comments, but looking good so far.
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About ruddy time you joined us Hawker...
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He pops his head in and then straight out again to check that he isn't in the gs2 forum. Lots of familiar faces here. I should be joining you all next week as I'm ordering a gs4 tomorrow when I get paid. I'm kind of like a bad smell you just can't get rid of
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You're just a Samsung whore!
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Yeah I know. A short attention span doesn't help either. Kind of means I get bored with my toys quite quickly so I did well to hold out over a year
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A short attention span is one thing you could never accu
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Lots of familiar faces here. I should be joining you all next week as I'm ordering a gs4 tomorrow when I get paid. I'm kind of like a bad smell you just can't get rid of
Somebody pass me a can of air freshener... quick!

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Your threads may end up in the completely wrong forum but I'm not that bad. Hang on I see your point, at least Apple Maps got you to the right place occasionally
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Dam this thing looks sexy in black, I'd forgotten how much I disliked my S3 in white until I compared it to this. Rooting went without a glitch, well after I managed to find the developer options. Who'd have thought one of ironass' guides would turn out to be useful

Anyway now to find a ROM and theme. I'm considering wanamlite as it was a solid all rounder on my S3, to be honest the only reason I stopped using it was because sale came along and stole the show so maybe time to give out another chance. Or on the other hand I might try something completely new.
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If you liked sale's NEAT ROM's then have a look at the stock, modified, DjeMBeY ROM, MGA. #1.2 in the DjeMBeY ROM's i9505 - Dummies Guide.
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Look no further than an MGA ROM (I'm using djembey's with the brilliant 3Minit framework
3Minit is like JKay but so much better.
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Thanks guys, I'll give them a try. I was tempted by 3minute on my gs3 but never got round to it. I suppose it was because when I looked at it jkay had a lot more options but it looks like it's come a long way since then
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