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Old March 10th, 2014, 01:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is a bit of a water tester topic.

I'm still on the old bootloader (MGA) with MH1 LTE Modem.
I'm wondering if any of you who have upgraded to the new bootloader have noticed any improvements in LTE and wifi (performance/stabilty/reliability)?

I'm not bothered at all about tripping knox as this knox issue has been totally blown out of proportion in my opinion as it doesnt invalidate warranty and only really comes into play on corporate devices, so if the latest 4.4+ LTE modems are a significant improvement I may consider upgrading to the new bootloader.

Your experience on this subject is most welcome....

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This is a bit of a water tester topic.

I'm still on the old bootloader (MGA) with MH1 LTE Modem.
I'm wondering if any of you who have upgraded to the new bootloader have noticed any improvements in LTE and wifi (performance/stabilty/reliability)?

I'm not bothered at all about tripping knox as this knox issue has been totally blown out of proportion in my opinion as it doesnt invalidate warranty and only really comes into play on corporate devices, so if the latest 4.4+ LTE modems are a significant improvement I may consider upgrading to the new bootloader.

Your experience on this subject is most welcome....

I'm gonna do it tomorrow . To hell with Knox. It's no concern of mine for any reason whatsoever. Face up to the future of rooting on Sammy devices and take the plunge.
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Old March 10th, 2014, 04:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Update, Hawker. I did inadvertently on my SGS4 and never regretted it and I just tripped Knox without a second thought once I'd got used to my Hobbit tablet.

I think your right about this Knox thingy (and I was furious at first) and besides surely it is ahem..! What sledgehammers and insurance is for isn't it?
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Knox 2.0 is being launched on the Galaxy S5 in a month and will be in future firmware updates for the Galaxy S4.

Samsung Debuts Knox 2.0 Mobile Security Platform: MWC

"Other features include real-time monitoring that both detects and prevents any unauthorized modifications to the kernel code; critical kernel data and system partition"
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I'm still in two minds when it comes to Knox also waiting a bit b4 I Rom up to 4. 4.2 i download tv to my extsd I wonder if KK will stop letting me do that.


Would deff move off stock onto a Slim asop or G E rom
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Knox 2.0 is being launched on the Galaxy S5 in a month and will be in future firmware updates for the Galaxy S4.

Samsung Debuts Knox 2.0 Mobile Security Platform: MWC

"Other features include real-time monitoring that both detects and prevents any unauthorized modifications to the kernel code; critical kernel data and system partition"
Ironass has convinced me to wait and see what the fall out is of Knox 2.0 when the s5 is released before taking the plunge
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Yeah Knox 2 sounds like it may make rooting nearly impossible. Could be a case of changing to an HTC in the future
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Yeah Knox 2 sounds like it may make rooting nearly impossible. Could be a case of changing to an HTC in the future

See how Sammy is becoming Apple?
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Sadly looking looking like it. more than likely won't be upgrading for a couple of years. So going to see what the rest of the gang do and join them :-D
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This is a bit of a water tester topic.

I'm still on the old bootloader (MGA) with MH1 LTE Modem.
I'm wondering if any of you who have upgraded to the new bootloader have noticed any improvements in LTE and wifi (performance/stabilty/reliability)?

I'm not bothered at all about tripping knox as this knox issue has been totally blown out of proportion in my opinion as it doesnt invalidate warranty and only really comes into play on corporate devices, so if the latest 4.4+ LTE modems are a significant improvement I may consider upgrading to the new bootloader.

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This is only my opinion of course, and I could well be wrong, but I think Knox 2.0 (as indeed is the case with the current Knox) will only really come into force on corporate handsets that are running the full subscription-based Knox security software that work in conjunction with the knox bootloader to lock-down the device within its TrustZone-protected environment.

For normal users like ourselves, it will more than likely be exactly as it is now. Ie. a blown knox fuse for us who root/custom recovery, but having no effect on our warranty, the device functionality and what we can flash etc.

Samsung are no mugs. They see the need for a locked-down security platform for corporates, but also acknowledge the minions such as us who root/flash etc, and would lose billions in revenue if they were to alienate such a huge part of their market. They basically stated this in no uncertain terms in their statement that was issued a few weeks after the initial Knox furore blew up.

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I'll still probably hang fire until the Knox 2.0 uproar has stabilized, but hopefully with people such as Chainfire et al. in our corner, I don't think we'll have too much to worry about.
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Good points. I'm also hanging fire on KK until the SD thing gets ironed out and also a good KK is out for us
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Good points. I'm also hanging fire on KK until the SD thing gets ironed out and also a good KK is out for us
Make that a +1 for that.
Either that or i will root my phone & stuff the knox.
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Well I did it ^^ I left rooting on this phone as its far too complicated and buggy for me now. I'm not on stock 4.4.2 firmware direct from sammy. And its glorious. No more random restarts , and things actually work. Sure there is a bit more clutter but as ive stated before , my nexus 7 is my media and gaming device now and this can be a phone again.

Maybe in a year i will see ya'll on the HTC forums :P
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Glad it's all working out for you now mate, personally I've not had too many issues with custom ROMs etc but all phones are different to one another ain't they. Lol

Pity you obviously don't wanna root it for those of us forgoing the Knox bootloader ;-)
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Glad it's all working out for you now mate, personally I've not had too many issues with custom ROMs etc but all phones are different to one another ain't they. Lol

Pity you obviously don't wanna root it for those of us forgoing the Knox bootloader ;-)
Things were sweet on the S2 but this time round I really got no joys from it all. Just my luck I know and I understand many got what they wanted from rooting the S4 around here but for me alot has changed in my life so risking the usability of my phone is dangerous.

Always be a lurker however ^^
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I lurk here too, Ironass thinks this forum has Hobbit interlopers with their huge human phones they use as tablets. He's right of course
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