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Old March 20th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default HTC One Has Bootloader Unlock Issues - workable though

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I will take cover with you, I don't root or ROM anymore and just stick with stock everything. I like Sense.
I know the devs on XDA are working on the Root issue with the HTC losing some apps permanently. Until that is utterly fixed, I won't even contemplating rooting my next Android phone.

My S2 is rooted and my iPhone is jailbroken and I have to say I love the way that it is on the iPhone because if I want to return it to stock I just have to restore it in iTunes, that's it.

Android rooting has always been a real faff, to be honest. I was as nervous as hell when I rooted my S2 in case I bricked the phone. For this reason, I doubt I will root my next Android device though unless the tutorials and the tools needed are aimed at the pre-school generation in their simplicity!

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Old March 20th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So, it makes sense to like the new sense?

Interesting observation coming from you old school rooters...
While others scoffed at first, I've always liked a tuned, slightly modified Sense.

The exact same features that the blogosphere laughed at in Sense are the same plain Android features that they hailed as break-throughs with the Galaxy Nexus and ICS - tight app integration, and a view towards using you phone based on data and people, rather than a collection of apps.

I've liked the old Sense, middle Sense, new Sense, and the in-between Sense and the round-the-middle and up-the-side Sense.

Rooting just gives me the power to fine tune it.

As well as replace it - which - I don't.

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I know the devs on XDA are working on the Root issue with the HTC losing some apps permanently. Until that is utterly fixed, I won't even contemplating rooting my next Android phone.

My S2 is rooted and my iPhone is jailbroken and I have to say I love the way that it is on the iPhone because if I want to return it to stock I just have to restore it in iTunes, that's it.

Android rooting has always been a real faff, to be honest. I was as nervous as hell when I rooted my S2 in case I bricked the phone. For this reason, I doubt I will root my next Android device though unless the tutorials and the tools needed are aimed at the pre-school generation in their simplicity!
Ok - (disclaimer) I've been a member of a well-liked rom developer team for the Sprint version of the One X. I'm on XDA under this same user name.

Not being defensive - just facts, ok.

Rooting a Sammy is not like rooting an HTC.

With an HTC, it generally makes more sense, and HTC provides a site to help you unlock things.

It requires picking up new terms and definitions to speak the lingo, but we have a LOT of thanks for new, first-timers saying our root guides are dead-dog easy to follow.

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I know the devs on XDA are working on the Root issue with the HTC losing some apps permanently. Until that is utterly fixed, I won't even contemplating rooting my next Android phone.
Not at all being cute - but I'm having trouble understanding what you mean there. Please allow for a long day on my part.

What does it mean - losing apps permanently???
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I think he may be talking about this:

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I think he may be talking about this:

HTC One Has Bootloader Unlock Issues | Ubergizmo
How sensational.

The Modaco story is a bit more direct - backup required, HTC contacted so that they fix it, awaiting their feedback.

Reported utterly fixed via Carbon restore on the 18th.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39211936

I'll probably move this all to the root forum, it doesn't concern Blinkfeed.
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Ok - (disclaimer) I've been a member of a well-liked rom developer team for the Sprint version of the One X. I'm on XDA under this same user name.

Not being defensive - just facts, ok.

Rooting a Sammy is not like rooting an HTC.

With an HTC, it generally makes more sense, and HTC provides a site to help you unlock things.

It requires picking up new terms and definitions to speak the lingo, but we have a LOT of thanks for new, first-timers saying our root guides are dead-dog easy to follow.

Not at all being cute - but I'm having trouble understanding what you mean there. Please allow for a long day on my part.
It's OK, I appreciate your reply and take it in the spirit in which you posted it. Thank you.

In that case I shall pay more attention to the Devs on XDA (I have same user name on there too) and will try to get my head round the different rooting methodology for the HTC, when I get it.

I have a good app developer friend who has always had HTCs and he roots them immediately upon purchase so I can always turn to him IRL should I need help too.
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Since it was going to be moved here anyways....

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...seems that there have been stories circulating around the web that the HTC One was configured to delete some of its apps whenever it goes through the unlocking process.

This is due to a bunch of apps that have been stashed in the preload directory on the HTC One’s data partition. In a factory reset, that particular directory will not be touched, but unlocking the device would not have this “safety buffer” built in, hence removing these files from the data partition, doing away with apps like the Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer, and Sound Recorder. I think I am all right without those, save for the calculator app. What about you?
Much ado about nothing, IMO. A snag, to be sure, but nothing like letting the magic smoke out of the box, huh?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 11:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Not that it would be a huge issue, given that most who unlock their bootloader don't want OTA's anyway, but it means you'll never be able to OTA again.

AFAIK, the OTA update tool checks for the presence and integrity of stock, preinstalled apps before it will install any updates. If the apps aren't there, the tool will fail.
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Paul O'Brien posted a zip of those apps at XDA, so if this bothers anyone you can reload them: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39400584
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I've unlocked, and have been trying to install a recovery via fastboot and on my computer cmd prompt it keeps saying device not recognized and fastboot is not found on internal or external something or other....I have htc sync manager installed so I believe all the drivers are there, and I have debugging enabled on the phone, yet the recovery won't get sent to the phone....the phone says fastboot USB in the boot loader screen when plugged into the computer so that looks good. not sure what's going wrong...really want to achieve root to start getting rid of some bloat...any help or ideas????


.anyone else surprised that more cant be disabled, like fm radio, stocks, sprint zone, Flickr....on el TEvo I was able to disable those stock ....or so I remember
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@AM2 you need to disable fastboot in the power settings at the bottom
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@AM2 you need to disable fastboot in the power settings at the bottom
thanks for the reply...yes fastboot was and is indeed already disabled....really throwing me for a loop....I've tried 2 different methods for getting the recovery on there and none are working when it gets to that step on the computer....am I able to flash a recovery via any other means in order to obtain root???? TIA
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thanks for the reply...yes fastboot was and is indeed already disabled....really throwing me for a loop....I've tried 2 different methods for getting the recovery on there and none are working when it gets to that step on the computer....am I able to flash a recovery via any other means in order to obtain root???? TIA
try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242635&page=6

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I'm on sprint and am using the toolkit sprint M7wls....I noice the thread title is for AT&T ...could this be contributing to my problems????

at the top of my cmd window on the computer I keep seeing error: device not found...when I close that the second window pops open and it looks like stuff is getting flashed, but the phone doesn't look like anything is happening...I have tampered and unlocked on my phone....can't help thinking that somehow im having driver issues, although I have htc sync manager installed which should have installed the correct drivers....smh....appreciate u helping me figure this out
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oh snap I'm in recovery!!!!!!! just decided to hit recovery to see what happened and I got in!!!!!YEESSSSSSSS!!!!! now on to the other steps....crossing fingers
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Looks like it worked!!!! Sweet!!!! I saw that mksh super user request...we r still denying that btw right?????
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I'll look over the sprint all in one
I'm pretty sure the install of the recovery and the root are the same on all models
Installation:
Unlock bootloader at HTCdev - Unlock Bootloader
Uncheck fastboot in the rom in power options
Turn phone completely off
Boot into HBOOT>Fastboot
Use command "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"

Root:
To gain root on stock rom. Flash recovery in fastboot then flash this inside of recovery. There are two root programs. Superuser and SuperSU. Both are listed.
Superuser - Goo.im Downloads - Downloading Superuser-1.0.1.7-CWM.zip
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SuperSU - http://download.chainfire.eu/315/Sup...erSU-v1.25.zip

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LOL I see you got it
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Be wary with ROM Manager. With the HTCdev bootloader unlock, you can't flash the boot or recovery partitions whilst in ROM, you have to be in fastboot.

Probably best to steer clear of ROM Manager altogether actually.
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Old April 21st, 2013, 04:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'll look over the sprint all in one
I'm pretty sure the install of the recovery and the root are the same on all models
Installation:
Unlock bootloader at HTCdev - Unlock Bootloader
Uncheck fastboot in the rom in power options
Turn phone completely off
Boot into HBOOT>Fastboot
Use command "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"

Root:
To gain root on stock rom. Flash recovery in fastboot then flash this inside of recovery. There are two root programs. Superuser and SuperSU. Both are listed.
Superuser - Goo.im Downloads - Downloading Superuser-1.0.1.7-CWM.zip
OR
SuperSU - http://download.chainfire.eu/315/Sup...erSU-v1.25.zip

Downloads:
You can now flash in Rom Manager in rom if rooted

LOL I see you got it

lol I've never been so happy to see that damn little red writing on startup in my life!!! although didn't see it after restarting after freezing stuff in TB...not mad at that though, I'll take it....sooooo happy to freeze all the xtra unnecessaries...btw I was correct in denying the mksh request in su, right???? wouldn't have gotten it without ur assistance...thanks a million
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Be wary with ROM Manager. With the HTCdev bootloader unlock, you can't flash the boot or recovery partitions whilst in ROM, you have to be in fastboot.

Probably best to steer clear of ROM Manager altogether actually.
its a straight copy paste from XDA Sprint One forums - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2238324

I don't use Rom manager myself
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its a straight copy paste from XDA Sprint One forums - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2238324

I don't use Rom manager myself
Interesting. I always thought full S-OFF was needed for that to work?
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Interesting. I always thought full S-OFF was needed for that to work?
I'm not sure on that.
I know things are looking really promising for this phone. 2 of the Cynogenmod team have AT&T One's

there's also this news floating around:
The HTC Ones boot partition is unlocked during recovery now. On older HTC Devs it is locked during the recovery process. But HTCDEV now unlocks the boot partition for the One. You can't flash radios still without hboot.

Just flash the boot.img in recovery. I'm using CWR and Koush confirmed that we can now flash boot.img in custom recoveries.
the discussion is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2243704&page=5
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Looks like it worked!!!! Sweet!!!! I saw that mksh super user request...we r still denying that btw right?????
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Yep.
Hey Early....know anything about "resetnotify"??? it just popped up in supersu asking for permission...I've seen a couple others having it pop up as well...no one seems to know what it is....any insight o wise 1???
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Hey Early....know anything about "resetnotify"??? it just popped up in supersu asking for permission...I've seen a couple others having it pop up as well...no one seems to know what it is....any insight o wise 1???
Sorry, I got nothing.
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I took a quick glance at the source code.

It (obviously) wants su permission to pass messages for some Restart Notify service. Seems to be aware of a lot of the system layout. Made by HTC.

It's probably close to 2,500 lines of decompiled code, that's all I can say at a glance.

I saw an application example (not for this phone) using it to restart repetitive tasks, like an alarm.

Don't know what HTC is really using it for.

IOW, I still got nothing, but I'll see what I can find.
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Hey Early....know anything about "resetnotify"??? it just popped up in supersu asking for permission...I've seen a couple others having it pop up as well...no one seems to know what it is....any insight o wise 1???
I'm not sure what it is (even after extensive searching) the general consensus seems to be not to give it permissions, just in case.

I'll pop back if I find out more
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Here's an observation - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40581584#post40581584

HTCResetNotify.apk has been consistently documented back to 2011 for providing either a statusbar notification or popup for resets or crashes. It's been the target for debloating on a number of roms.

I'd ignore it.
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Here's an observation - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40581584#post40581584

HTCResetNotify.apk has been consistently documented back to 2011 for providing either a statusbar notification or popup for resets or crashes. It's been the target for debloating on a number of roms.

I'd ignore it.
don't have to tell me twice...consider it strangered....thanks for your time
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Interesting. I always thought full S-OFF was needed for that to work?
S-OFF for recovery flash? If that's what you meant, then no. AFAIK, S-OFF is the writeflag security that permits users to write to the radios and device partitions, but Viper already put out a mod that gives perm root + /system rw.

EDIT: It seems that when the bootloader is unlocked via HTCDev, it allows writing to certain partitions via fastboot, which may explain why/how recoveries are being installed.
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S-OFF for recovery flash? If that's what you meant, then no. AFAIK, S-OFF is the writeflag security that permits users to write to the radios and device partitions, but Viper already put out a mod that gives perm root + /system rw.

EDIT: It seems that when the bootloader is unlocked via HTCDev, it allows writing to certain partitions via fastboot, which may explain why/how recoveries are being installed.
Yeah, previous iterations of the htcdev unlock have meant that you can't write to the recovery partition unless you're in fastboot. If you tried to flash a recovery using GooManager or ROM Manager, it would fail unless you had full S-OFF.
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Other partitions being writeable from recovery are likely a fluke,that will be "fixed" in future hboots.

I'd love to be wrong on that,and to think that HTC was loosening the reins,but remember both the one s and one X could write radios and boot images from recovery with early hboots.

I'd say an s off method is just around the corner,since I just purchased an s-off one on eBay
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You know it was S-Offed by the owner? There were a few examples of my current handset that were sold S-Off, for no obvious reason.

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You know it was S-Offed by the owner? There were a few examples of my current handset that were sold S-Off, for no obvious reason.

Hard to type with my fingers crossed
oooh,sorry to give confusing info

no,it was not s-offed by the owner,it was listed as a "rare engineer s off" device. dint mean to imply someone is working on a method

what i meant was,since i spent a fair amount of $$ buying it,that a method would be found- thats the luck i have,lol. i bought an s-off rezound, 2 weeks later,bam! team unlimited releases jpbear. i sent in a one s for jtag s off,1 week later,bam! facepalm. since i bricked my factory s off tegra 3 one x,theres still not a method.

in other words,my luck is not such that a method will NOT be found,letting the phone keep its value
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I'd feel really bad about wishing you continuing bad luck!
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