mikeca

Under settings-check for updates, it is telling me there is a firmware package update available. Anyone tried this or know what it is?

NumberXV

Ill update and report back.




Update: I got a error and cannot update.

Last edited by NumberXV; February 3rd, 2013 at 01:51 AM. Reason: update

cooldudezach

Yeah, there is an update rolling out which supposedly fixes a few things. not much else is known right now.

db2

IIRC one user reported that the update succeed but rendered the Rise unrootable.

dibblebill

The update still isn't showing for me in North Carolina. Does seem to be a regional rollout, as I recall seeing somewhere that someone in NJ has it.

SuppliedRelic

Can anybody confirm this firmware update renders the phone unrootable?

dibblebill

The issue I have is I don't want to activate a new phone on my service and discontinue the first one just to find out. Would it be updateable over WiFi w/o activation? I have an unrooted one htat we can test with

Last edited by dibblebill; February 6th, 2013 at 01:09 PM. Reason: .

DannySihapanya

Failed to update.

Got an 8507 error forsure.

Don't know what that error means.


I was looking forward to this update since my phone always freezes and resets all the time.

Last edited by DannySihapanya; February 6th, 2013 at 06:57 PM.

dibblebill

Are you rooted? If yes, have you changed any of the system apps?

radford

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dibblebill

Missed that, thanks.

I can verify that the update will fail before it even reboots, no exit code, on my rooted Rise.

radford

I didn't see the update until today. Not even going to bother until cwm recovery is out. If it really does block rooting, best to avoid it anyways.

r

jae_63

Does anyone know the reason for the update? I suspect that it is to address the security flaw described here. This article is worth reading in any case, since it discusses how android fragmentation leads to many phones lacking security patches

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/android-phones-vulnerable-to-hackers/2013/02/01/f3248922-6723-11e2-9e1b-07db1d2ccd5b_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop

DannySihapanya

Yes and yes. I uninstalled some apps then i reseted my phone still rooted.

dibblebill

Same here... Mine fails before I even reboot.

db2

I think they're badly referencing this:

Security: The Rise is vulnerable to the USSD remote wipe attack

Trevon360

How do i update with these files because i still don't have the update

radford

copy the update file to the root of the sd card and reboot in recovery mode. Follow the on screen prompts from there under update.

r

cooldudezach

I doubt it would work this way, considering the files don't ever touch the sd card.


Also, I successfully updated. I was rooted, and am still rooted. I didn't do anything special except for remove the files I replaced, and restore the backed up files. Honestly, not sure what problems everybody is having. Maybe there are issues downloading it over 3g vs WiFi?

DannySihapanya

I just download over Wi-fi and i still get errors.

I'm rooted and I get the error.

dibblebill

I... Er... Don't have backups of my removed files. How stable is the update?

dibblebill

EDIT: Double post. No delete option?

SuppliedRelic

My download keeps stopping after getting about 35% completed.

jae_63

I am not yet rooted. Is there consensus as to whether I can root AFTER applying the update?

I am willing to take some risks since I am currently only using this as an "ipod touch" and am still using an older phone for my virgin mobile account.

SuppliedRelic

How do you enter recovery mode on the rise?

cooldudezach

The only error I have is 3g not connecting after the update, but that could very well be one of the issues I'm having with my account at the moment.

The update is pretty stable. I might have 3g issues, but can't tell because I don't have the money to restart my plan which ended yesterday -_-
I don't see many changes. So far the only noticeable change is that Google Magazines is now installed.

So far, no consensus. If you can get the update to work after you root, the root does stay.

Power off the phone, then hold Vol-Up(Vol-Down?) + Power button.

SuppliedRelic

Is it safe to apply the update via recovery with a rooted phone?

db2

That's not how it works, stock recovery is useless for anything but wiping data.

SuppliedRelic

That sucks

lostinmemory

I was rooted before the update and I'm still rooted after. I haven't had any problems with the phone or the update. All of my system apps are still on the phone (Activate, Live, etc.) I only rooted so I could use adaway. I can also confirm that this fixes the USSD vulnerability. Overall, the phone feels a little snappier and more stable. This gives me hope for an eventual Jelly Bean update.

sethseth

HEY GUISE. I am new here. I updated my Rise today with that firmware update (I'm rooted) I have several rooted apps and I don't believe I've uninstalled any stock apps. It updated just fine. No problems except I get duplicate text messages now, which I posted a new thread for. So if you have any advice on that please answer or if you're having the problem.

dibblebill

Mine still won't update... Maybe on my next rise (I have two)

daffyducknj

Mine's updated, but I can't root it... ARRR!!!! I tried Bin4ry's method... am contemplating doing a factory reset, but then I found the no PC method around here. Might try that later.

LightyKD

Really? I was rooted but then the phone restarted and forced the update on me and now I dont have root access (even thou I can still navigate the root via my file browser)

db2

root as in / and root as in su are not the same thing.

LightyKD

root as in su because both superuser and root checker are saying that I don't have proper root. Has anyone tried to root their device after the update?

db2

If you open Terminal Emulator and type 'su' does it work?

sethseth

I just unrooted my phone and restored because I was fricking sick of getting double messages and no one could help me. It fixed the problem and I lost all my precios texts from friends. Now I can verify it will not root correctly with root with restore bin4ry or whatever it is. Root browser works, nothing else does that is a root app.

Trevon360

HEY RISE USERS I FOUND A NEW WAY TO ROOT THE RISE WITHOUT A COMPUTER JUST YOUR PHONE!!!!! New Root Method No Pc

daffyducknj

New Root Method No Pc

Try this! Seriously, it does work. Guess maybe I should post some screen shots later, but in any case it works for me. Sorry to see that you lost your texts. That's never good. I tried Bin4ry's method first as well, until I stumbled across this new method. I was contemplating rooting the phone manually. For me, this has worked out really well.

I've applied the egl tweak, and have overclocked the CPU to 1024 GHz using No Frills CPU CLASSIC. It's not possible to go any higher at the moment, as the kernels that the Rise uses don't support higher speeds. I don't really care at the moment, as the phone is so much more enjoyable and responsive to use after a few tweaks.

db2

1.024 is stock speed, the biggest advantage of being able to control it is to set it to use the Conservative governor which should improve battery life.

SuppliedRelic

So you can confirm this root method works after updating?

LightyKD

I can confirm that Superuser will say that you have Root access while your root checker will say that you do not have root... so yeah... im just as confused as anyone else because Poot gives me a daemon error.

daffyducknj

IMG_1044 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Just shot this a few minutes ago. This app won't run without superuser privileges.

db2

If su is in system/bin you may have to symlink it to /system/xbin too. Or the other way around. I had to do that on my TF101 to make sure all the root-capable apps could find su.

LightyKD

do you think you could type down a quick tutorial. that would be super helpful!

Trevon360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HUt5inuVtc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

db2

You'll need to install Terminal Emulator from the Play Store.

Open Terminal Emulator and type:
su

Superuser should ask for permission for it. If it doesn't come back and say so right off.

Then type:
ln -s /system/bin/su /system/xbin/su

If that gives you an error about the target existing then do this one:
ln -s /system/xbin/su /system/bin/su

Then type exit twice to get out of Terminal Emulator.

After that try to use a root app that failed before. It should work now.

SuppliedRelic

I have successfully updated to the latest firmware and still have root access.

Raymond_w3

Okay, so I've never tried a root or anything but today when I restarted my phone it forced the update. Like sethseth mentioned I am getting duplicate text messages also. Anybody got a fix for this? It's pretty damn annoying