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Old January 20th, 2011, 08:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Adobe Flash does not work on Ally with 2.2 due to hardware limitation

So it won't be available for the stock ROM, but is it possible for Flash to run on an overclocked ROM, such as Velocity or Punisher when new versions come out? As far as I know, the cpu architecture is different and the cpu speed is less than the minimum requirements. But it seems that an overclocked ally might have a chance of running it.

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Default 2.2 is here now what about Flash

I have read that some are saying flash will not work or be comming to the ally due to adobe limits

Is there any truth to this and if not what flash apk will work for ally if there is one yet!

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No flash support. None. Zero. Zilch. Nunca. Nada. Adobe does not support the processor used in the LG Ally. Until and unless they write a version for it, it is highly unlikely we will ever see Flash support for our phone.

I would love to be proved wrong regarding this in the future. I'd like to be able to have Flash as well.
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I wana email them about it just for the heck of it. =D
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I wana email them about it just for the heck of it. =D
While you are getting results emailing major corporations, why don't you email google for me ask them if I can have a job doing nothing for a salary of 1 million dollars a year?

Our processor is outdated and will never be supported for flash.
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While you are getting results emailing major corporations, why don't you email google for me ask them if I can have a job doing nothing for a salary of 1 million dollars a year?

Our processor is outdated and will never be supported for flash.
Sorry... gosh just trying to make a suggestion. I wasnt going to do it anyways. Why so serious?
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Sorry... gosh just trying to make a suggestion. I wasnt going to do it anyways. Why so serious?
I don't speak for GRZLA, but I'd bet it's because despite the fact that Adobe has made it clear that we won't be running Flash on the Ally, new threads pop up about it constantly. Don't take it personally.
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I don't speak for GRZLA, but I'd bet it's because despite the fact that Adobe has made it clear that we won't be running Flash on the Ally, new threads pop up about it constantly. Don't take it personally.
Exactly, us devs are so fed up with seeing flash threads pop up all over the place even after users have been told there is NO flash support on the ally.

So let me say that again....

THERE IS NO FLASH SUPPORT FOR THE LG ALLY

Zip, Zero, None, Zilch, No, Nein, Cero, Null, Nula, нулю, ...etc... You get the point.......
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So it won't be available for the stock ROM, but is it possible for Flash to run on an overclocked ROM, such as Velocity or Punisher when new versions come out? As far as I know, the cpu architecture is different and the cpu speed is less than the minimum requirements. But it seems that an overclocked ally might have a chance of running it.
NO CHANCE. You could overclock the Ally to Onemillioninfinity MHz and Flash would still not work on the Ally.
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Exactly, us devs are so fed up with seeing flash threads pop up all over the place even after users have been told there is NO flash support on the ally.

So let me say that again....

THERE IS NO FLASH SUPPORT FOR THE LG ALLY

Zip, Zero, None, Zilch, No, Nein, Cero, Null, Nula, нулю, ...etc... You get the point.......
So do we get flash or not?
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So do we get flash or not?

Lol. Depending on how he said zip zelch null cero etc most likely not
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I was just wondering if there is any form of a flash player available for download for the ally. Thanks for the help!
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Flash is not supported on the ally.
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So do we get flash or not?
There will be NO flash on the Ally!!!!! It has been answered with a no every time it's been asked. Our processors architecture does not support flash. That cannot be changed!
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Flash doesn't support the Ally's processor.
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Old January 25th, 2011, 11:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Some people are not well versed in sarcasm lol...
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Some people are not well versed in sarcasm lol...
No kidding, I guess I should have put 2 or 3 or 5 smilies on that post so people would know I was kidding around. lol

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I'm thinking it might not have been the best time for sarcasm. Sorry bout that had a bad day. But anyway maybe its about time we try to change the whole freakin processor. Lol Hmmm... I wonder if that can be done?!? Think I might just have to do some research.
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I'm thinking it might not have been the best time for sarcasm.
What is the best time for sarcasm?

Also, I was wondering if flash on the Ally is laggy or stutters. That would suck if it's laggy because I love flash games.

/sarcasm
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So it won't be available for the stock ROM, but is it possible for Flash to run on an overclocked ROM, such as Velocity or Punisher when new versions come out? As far as I know, the cpu architecture is different and the cpu speed is less than the minimum requirements. But it seems that an overclocked ally might have a chance of running it.
The problem is that Flash is written specifically for a certain range of hardware and the Ally's processor isn't in that range of hardware. So it would be like trying to install Flash on a lawn mower. It just won't work.
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What is the best time for sarcasm?

Also, I was wondering if flash on the Ally is laggy or stutters. That would suck if it's laggy because I love flash games.

/sarcasm
Did you REALLY just go there, AGAIN???

Let's try to answer this by example: How would Flash run on a lawn mower? Would it be laggy or stutter? No - because it won't even run on a lawn mower... or on an Ally. The hardware is not supported by the program.
Hence the repy: No, Non, Nunca, Nada, Zero, Cero, etc...
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ROFL....look at the fine print in mxc1090s thread
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ROFL... I missed that the first time around. /facepalm
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so there wouldnt be a way for a dev to rewrite an apk to work with the ally's processor?
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so there wouldnt be a way for a dev to rewrite an apk to work with the ally's processor?
NO!!!!!!!!!
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omg. **shaking head in disbelief**
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Adobe Flash is closed source. The only way for us to get flash is if Adobe decides to provide support. Which they WILL NOT do.

Is is however feasible that a port of Gnash (open source alternative) COULD be ported to android, but this is far beyond my means and Gnash doesn't do a very good job.

I mean, the developer of Gnash tried and says it is very much a hassle due to the lack of full C++ support on Android:
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Jesus.

The only way we'll see Flash is if Adobe includes support for our processor, which is unlikely at this point. (A) we have a low-end processor, which probably wouldn't run it well, and Adobe doesn't want people thinking there's something wrong with Flash. (B) our processor isn't used in many devices, so the user-base is small enough that Adobe isn't worried about it.

We could get Flash if Adobe decides to support our processor in a future release. Not likely -- see above.

We could get Flash if Adobe releases the source. Not likely -- this is like hoping Microsoft will release the source to Windows. Or Adobe releasing the source to Photoshop. Etc.
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Jesus.

The only way we'll see Flash is if Adobe includes support for our processor, which is unlikely at this point. (A) we have a low-end processor, which probably wouldn't run it well, and Adobe doesn't want people thinking there's something wrong with Flash. (B) our processor isn't used in many devices, so the user-base is small enough that Adobe isn't worried about it.

We could get Flash if Adobe decides to support our processor in a future release. Not likely -- see above.

We could get Flash if Adobe releases the source. Not likely -- this is like hoping Microsoft will release the source to Windows. Or Adobe releasing the source to Photoshop. Etc.
Does this mean I can run Vista on an Ally???
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Does this mean I can run Vista on an Ally???
No...vista can only be run on your weedwacker, the Ally can only support windows 7! Doesn't anyone pay attention??? LOL
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It would be cool if flash worked but I just can't see it being usable on the ally hardware.
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I understand flash wont work. I understand that. Just wish everybody else would. For those people who dont know, u can download skyfire. Most flash videos still dont work but there are a few sites that do. The two i know of and use is southparkstudios.com and crackle.com. FLASH GAMES WILL NOT WORK. if anybody else knows of flash sites that are compatible please share. The video streaming works good for me on 2.2.1 Never worked well with 2.1 ?aybe we could start a skyfire website compatibility thread. Might ease the no flash 10.1 on android.
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I understand flash wont work. I understand that. Just wish everybody else would. For those people who dont know, u can download skyfire. Most flash videos still dont work but there are a few sites that do. The two i know of and use is southparkstudios.com and crackle.com. FLASH GAMES WILL NOT WORK. if anybody else knows of flash sites that are compatible please share. The video streaming works good for me on 2.2.1 Never worked well with 2.1 ?aybe we could start a skyfire website compatibility thread. Might ease the no flash 10.1 on android.
Did you test to see if the sites you know of didn't work without skyfire? If this really works when installed, then I'm sure other members would love this info. I would say, if you know that skyfire is what enables flash support on some sites, then you SHOULD start a thread on it. I will give this a try and research some sites. If they work I will post links in your thread.
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Did you test to see if the sites you know of didn't work without skyfire? If this really works when installed, then I'm sure other members would love this info. I would say, if you know that skyfire is what enables flash support on some sites, then you SHOULD start a thread on it. I will give this a try and research some sites. If they work I will post links in your thread.
it is WIDLEY Known that SKyfire enables the viewing of some flash content (They actually take the flash content, send it to their site, convert it to a viewable format)

Thats the whole point of the browser
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Now that we're on froyo shouldnt we be able to get flash? How do we get it? I tried downloading it but couldnt get it to go. Any info? Thanks everyone!
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Wont get it.

The CPU doesn't measure up to par for Flash.
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<<<<<WARNING THIS IS A JOKE>>>>>

Will there be Adobe Flash for the Ally?

and for the record, i got flash running perfectly on my john deer

In all seriousness though, every serious web developer out there right now is taking the mobile app business with serious note and although flash will not be dead for a long long time, almost every new browser is coming out with support for HTML5 and once browsers fully support it, developers will use it. The leading indicator of this is the number of major porn houses that are dropping flash for HTML5. Why? So we can see porn on our mobile devices, but more importantly the Ipad. So let me illustrate why you think flash is so important by posing a few questions:

1. Do you really need to see porn everywhere you go?
2. What websites do you go to that use flash images, or even worse entire sites built in flash that are current with their content? Really entire sites built in flash are just annoying! All of my sites are in the process of being redesigned to support HTML5 and should be ready about the time Firefox 4 is lifted from beta to release.
3. Ok this is one that kinda sucks, as i do go to some sites that use some sort of chat that is based in flash, but do you really need 24/7 chat rooms. If the content developers are smart they will be adapting to the mobile market and dumping flash chat.
4. Flash Games? Ummm ok isnt that what we bought android phones for, so that we would have access to an app market that had 1000s of games?

So everyone please please please for the sake of the developers please stop asking for flash, we need to move on and start developing for a new era. I can remember a time when there was no such thing as an <img> tag, java was something you drank, and css was something you only had a wet dream about and woke up with morning wood as a result. Lets not forget all the other new nifty languages that have come out. Letting go of flash only helps promote new technologies. Instead of badgering the Devs here, LG, Verizon, or even Adobe for not providing our "entry level android phone" with flash, badger the developers of the sites you visit to bring them selves into 2011.

Holy shit I almost sounded like Steve Jobs there, but really JUST STOP ASKING FOR IT!!!
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The exact issue here is that adobe builds flash player libs for android only for armv7 (a8 cortex ++) or armv7a (with neon support ex. snapdragon) instruction set. While libs built for armv5 or armv6(ally msm7627 & msm 7k series) will run on armv7 phones they are not backwards compatible. If an armv5 or armv6 or generic armeabi libflashplayer.so were to leak we may be able to rebuild the apk to use it.
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The exact issue here is that adobe builds flash player libs for android only for armv7 (a8 cortex ++) or armv7a (with neon support ex. snapdragon) instruction set. While libs built for armv5 or armv6(ally msm7627 &amp; msm 7k series) will run on armv7 phones they are not backwards compatible. If an armv5 or armv6 or generic armeabi libflashplayer.so were to leak we may be able to rebuild the apk to use it.

Uh oh... just when it looked the convo was over, you gave 'em an 'IF'.... what were you THINKING, man !!!
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it is WIDLEY Known that SKyfire enables the viewing of some flash content (They actually take the flash content, send it to their site, convert it to a viewable format)

Thats the whole point of the browser
This might be widely known, but everyone does not know about this browser. Regardless, if you know about it or not, it was good info by fullhouse233.
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I was merely stating WHY it worked =]
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if u want to watch videos u can use the appt skyfire browser i use it and it works like a champ since u cant use adobe
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MSM7627, the same proccessor that palm put on pixi... not reliable to running flash application, even if it supports arm-v7 instructions, very slowwwwwww
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Flash 10.1 for arm6 devices
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The problem is that Flash is written specifically for a certain range of hardware and the Ally's processor isn't in that range of hardware. So it would be like trying to install Flash on a lawn mower. It just won't work.
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Well apparently my lawn mower runs flash, because my Ally does now too.
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