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And Connect lovers are lucky because Metro is selling it for a great price, so there is no reason to complain. I wish my Esteem was still $249. I had to shell out $299 after my first Esteem sank in the ocean.

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The most important specification of a screen is pixel density rated in pixel per inch. Colors and brightness are next. PPI is the primary reason that Retina Display of Apple fame is such a big deal.

As some one who has good eye sight, I will take PPI over larger screen any day! The Connect 4g has 242 PPI over the Esteems 216. The Esteems larger screen is only 7% larger than the Connects screen anyway. The difference in screen size is roughly 1/3 of an inch, which is really nothing. Take into consideration that the Iphone 4S screen is only 3.5 inches. Not really a fan of Apple but since they are the standard that all most everyone uses to compare other smart phones to, it was a necessary evil.

Personally I'm in favor of the Connect 4g over the Esteem for a lot of reasons besides just pixel density. The processor is a whole generation better, on a smaller process and has much better graphics processor than its predecessor.

Also neither of these phones are really high def screens. 800x480 resolution is standard definition but looks better due to higher pixel density. The standard for high definition screens starts at 1280x720 16:9 ratio or 1024x768 4:3 ratio. Lol sorry if I got carried away but hard numbers and facts make a debate much better.
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The most important specification of a screen is pixel density rated in pixel per inch. Colors and brightness are next. PPI is the primary reason that Retina Display of Apple fame is such a big deal.

As some one who has good eye sight, I will take PPI over larger screen any day! The Connect 4g has 242 PPI over the Esteems 216. The Esteems larger screen is only 7% larger than the Connects screen anyway. The difference in screen size is roughly 1/3 of an inch, which is really nothing. Take into consideration that the Iphone 4S screen is only 3.5 inches. Not really a fan of Apple but since they are the standard that all most everyone uses to compare other smart phones to, it was a necessary evil.

Personally I'm in favor of the Connect 4g over the Esteem for a lot of reasons besides just pixel density. The processor is a whole generation better, on a smaller process and has much better graphics processor than its predecessor.

Also neither of these phones are really high def screens. 800x480 resolution is standard definition but looks better due to higher pixel density. The standard for high definition screens starts at 1280x720 16:9 ratio or 1024x768 4:3 ratio. Lol sorry if I got carried away but hard numbers and facts make a debate much better.
We all know the connect is a better phone, technicaly. Doesnt change the fact that the connect came in too late when other carriers have had dual cores with way bigger screens for a while. Its just the flagship phone that people are waiting to be replaced with a better phone already.
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We all know the connect is a better phone, technicaly. Doesnt change the fact that the connect came in too late when other carriers have had dual cores with way bigger screens for a while. Its just the flagship phone that people are waiting to be replaced with a better phone already.
Well, all you, Connect owners, know. LOL Ask in the LG Esteem forum. LG Connect has never had any spotlight, and it will become completely irrelevant when Metro will offer a real upgrade.
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Well, all you, Connect owners, know. LOL Ask in the LG Esteem forum. LG Connect has never had any spotlight, and it will become completely irrelevant when Metro will offer a real upgrade.
Im an esteem owner lol
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Well, Connect owners and some Esteem owners. I have both at my disposal.
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Just on a side note. Thought I'd chime in and say i was THRILLED when i got this phone and I saw that the screen wasn't annoyingly large like my gf's Razer. (Meaning fork semi tablets that i can't fit in my pocket comfortably.) The screen size on the connect is perfect. Oh, and my gf and my buddy said "wow that screen looks amazing" when i was playing some videos.

For what it's worth I'd love the hdmi out but seeing as we have easy share and more tvs are made smart than not now it's almost a moot point. I would love the hdmi though for sure.
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Well, all you, Connect owners, know. LOL Ask in the LG Esteem forum. LG Connect has never had any spotlight, and it will become completely irrelevant when Metro will offer a real upgrade.
I think you care about this way too much. Device envy? Denial? I don't know what it is but you seem to be hanging in the connect forums quite a bit, and touting your esteem, whilst taking this thread way off base, and double/triple posting like a mad man.

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I have both devices. It just irritates me when some people think they know what is best for everyone, and come to weird conclusions, such as people buy Esteem for bling, or technically incompetent people buy Esteem etc.

If I were device envy, I would be on Samsung Galaxy SIII forums

I had a real choice whether to buy Connect or Esteem when I sank my Esteem in the ocean last month. And I knew all the differences between Esteem and Connect, and still stayed with Esteem. In fact, I ordered both, but I gave Connect to my mom as an upgrade from Samsung Admire.
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Not the point, I asked why you care so much. I also have an esteem and feel totally different, IMO my connect is quite a bit faster and smoother. I like it far more and didn't mind giving my esteem to my wife, granted she likes the esteem better than the attain, but even she likes my connect better.

However, I don't come into the esteem forums and rant about how much better my connect is, and hijack threads talking sillyness that doesn't even matter and going off topic.

Great, you love your esteem. The connect isn't an upgrade, its cheap plastic with no shiny lights, a small screen and smells like bad cheese. We get it.
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Not the point, I asked why you care so much. I also have an esteem and feel totally different, IMO my connect is quite a bit faster and smoother. I like it far more and didn't mind giving my esteem to my wife, granted she likes the esteem better than the attain, but even she likes my connect better.

Did you have a defective Esteem? My Esteem at least as smooth as Connect in general use.

However, I don't come into the esteem forums and rant about how much better my connect is, and hijack threads talking sillyness that doesn't even matter.

Great, you love your esteem. The connect isn't an upgrade, its cheap plastic with no shiny lights, a small screen and smells like bad cheese. We get it.
You know, once you participate in a forum once, Tapatalk keeps it in the participated forums section.

And I am not saying it is better. Al I am saying, it is debatable. Neither of the two phones is a clear winner. They are about the same when you consider all cons/pros. For me, Esteem is better.
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You know, once you participate in a forum once, Tapatalk keeps it in the participated forums section.
So because it's there, you have to keep coming back and ranting? Lol. Not everyone will agree with you. And some will, I just think this is a topic that has already been raped, beat to death and then had its corpse raped again.

I don't have anything against you liking the esteem more than the connect, but you say you get irritated when people make assumptions as to what's best for everyone else. Did you not do the same by pretty much saying the connect isn't a real upgrade? Some of us think it is. How is it not? (I don't want you to actually answer that, we will just go full circle again. I just want you to really think about it.

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Hey, I am not the one who has revived this useless thread. Say thanks to ohbaby for that.
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So, got an esteem for £50 today after a friend got a connect....
New emulator toy for now as my (sprint) epic is on ics and thus is my rom toy ATM.

IMO, too big. I'll upload a pic of it in my pocket while my climbing harness is on when I get off work tomorrow.

My connect runs smooth @600mhz too, which I cannot say for the esteem.
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Yay, another Esteem loyalist here Victory will be ours! :
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On the planet where people pay more money for the older model.

What seems to be the problem?

Don't like the price hike? - buy Connect.

Don't like MetroPCS practices? - Jump the boat and switch to another carrier. I am sure other carriers never try to take advantage of their customers.

There is nothing despicable here. Nobody forces you to buy Esteem.

I will tell you what despicable is. Despicable is when Verizon charges you like you are calling to some remote African country for calls within U.S. when you go over the allotted minutes. Once, I paid $140 for $70 plan due to overages. That's what taking advantage of people really means. Ironically, I overaged that month because I spent hours on the phone with AT&T, another crooked company,because they did not properly apply the rebate to my new home internet service, and their stupid employees think slowly and place you on hold often.
Then buy the connect? As you know I already have one. Got it on day 1 of release. Was gonna wait some before buying,... being the esteem had that reboot problem early on. But I been waiting over a month for the lg connect to come out and I got impatient. It was due out in early feb. but was'nt released until early march. And it was $100 more at that time than the esteem.

Don't know what's the big deal about the notification lights. Do they light up in your pocket? Wouldn't you be better served by a ping, or vibrate for that incoming email? Thats what I have. Don't see the need for any lights. You have a status bar for notifications, and a sound or vibrate alert. I have never seen the esteem. Those lights,.... do they twinkle like a Christmas tree or something? Do they have a strobe effect? Tell me, what am I missing?

Since you brought up Verizon's price gouging,.... how about Metro raising my plan $20 after the first month. From 50 to 70 after one month. Could you imagine your landlord raising your rent over 30% one month after you moved in. It's unheard of.

And believe me,... if I didn't invest over $400 for the phone + plan,.... It would be easy to say goodbye to Metro. They continue to cut coners, and treat us with little regard. Just the other day, they discontinued my metro navigator, saying my limited subscription expired. Where did it say it was a trial app? Nowhere. And what,.... the trial was for 4 months and 7 days? How many other apps on this phone are on a trial basis that we don't know about? It's ridiculous how Metro is going about their business.
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i just deleted my antutu benchmark app.

i dont see the point of significance.
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Then buy the connect? As you know I already have one. Got it on day 1 of release. Was gonna wait some before buying,... being the esteem had that reboot problem early on. But I been waiting over a month for the lg connect to come out and I got impatient. It was due out in early feb. but was'nt released until early march. And it was $100 more at that time than the esteem.

Don't know what's the big deal about the notification lights. Do they light up in your pocket? Wouldn't you be better served by a ping, or vibrate for that incoming email? Thats what I have. Don't see the need for any lights. You have a status bar for notifications, and a sound or vibrate alert. I have never seen the esteem. Those lights,.... do they twinkle like a Christmas tree or something? Do they have a strobe effect? Tell me, what am I missing?

Since you brought up Verizon's price gouging,.... how about Metro raising my plan $20 after the first month. From 50 to 70 after one month. Could you imagine your landlord raising your rent over 30% one month after you moved in. It's unheard of.

And believe me,... if I didn't invest over $400 for the phone + plan,.... It would be easy to say goodbye to Metro. They continue to cut coners, and treat us with little regard. Just the other day, they discontinued my metro navigator, saying my limited subscription expired. Where did it say it was a trial app? Nowhere. And what,.... the trial was for 4 months and 7 days? How many other apps on this phone are on a trial basis that we don't know about? It's ridiculous how Metro is going about their business.
Sorry that you got a defective Esteem; that sucks.

Notification lights let you know whether you got something new by just looking at the phone without taking the phone in your hands and turning on the screen. It is very convenient, especially after you leave the phone on a desk unattended for short periods of time, our when you don't want any audio disturbances in a very silent room; vibration on a hard surface makes some noise.

What the heck are you talking about regarding plan price? I have an old pan MetroPCS plan, and they have not raised my price not even by a penny.

Look up in your plan which applications are included for free with it, no need to get dissappointed. Cell phone companies do staff like that all the time. Use Google Navigator; it is better and free.
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Lol! Some of these guys are just too funny mike.

Btw, gamer..first score on the list is mine, for my connect .. can't see you nuking 7700+ with an esteem. Lets see it.

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LOL It must have been that heavy Esteem brick in your pocket.
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Lol, I actually left it in the car by accident.
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Notification lights let you know whether you got something new by just looking at the phone without taking the phone in your hands and turning on the screen. It is very convenient, especially after you leave the phone on a desk unattended for short periods of time, our when you don't want any audio disturbances in a very silent room; vibration on a hard surface makes some noise.
sure,

but if you actually want to look at the new stuff you got you're going to have to turn the phone on anyway.
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but if you actually want to look at the new stuff you got you're going to have to turn the phone on anyway.
Of course, but you can be assured that you have not missed anything important without checking your phone every 15 minutes. For example, green light means new email, so that can wait. Blue light SMS, something more urgent. I have switched off audible alerts for emails because it is annoying, and green light is my only notification.
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Of course, buy you can be assured that you have not missed anything important without checking your phone every 15 minutes. For example, green light means new email, so that can wait. Blue light SMS, something more urgent. I have switched off audible alerts for emails because it is annoying, and green light is my only notification.
nice, but not vital. which is why they got rid of it. that and the ability to keep costs down.
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nice, but not vital. which is why they got rid of it. that and the ability to keep costs down.
But it is nice, and more vital to me than having slightly better hardware. I don't play games, so I don't need a super machine.
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But it is nice, and more vital to me than having slightly better hardware. I don't play games, so I don't need a super machine.

so you're settling for a phone with inferior technology because thats all you need. nothing wrong with that.

someone said they prefered the admire over the connect for the same reasons. i always tell people who arent gonna do anything other than look at webpages, email, talk, and text to go with cheaper phones. no point in paying a bunch of money for something you're not gonna use.
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I am not settling for anything. I have a great phone that I love that does everything I do well (Skype, Email, GPS, Tourque, Camera, Video, Email etc) and has beautiful screen and chrome accents on the sides. If I settled, I would buy Connect after I sank my first LG Esteem.

What exactly do you want from me? Bugger off, pal!
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two things:

the thread is silly because i dont know why anyone would care that the esteem has a higher price tag than the connect. hell, for a while the attain was selling at a higher price. so what?

people are going to prefer certain phones because of certain aspects but the unarguable fact is the technology and capability of the esteem(and any other current metro 4g smartphone) is made obsolete by the connect. when someone makes this factual statement esteem owners get testy. i doesnt bother me when people say the evo 4G on virgin has superior technology and capability to the connect. i except that FACT and move on.

honestly, if i had gotten the esteem before the connect came out i would stick with the esteem. if you have one you dont need the other.
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Obsolete? LOL I think you are being too harsh.
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So... about that bench.... 7700 to beat.

Oh, and a 20second video of a connect at 702 MHz (closest to halfclock I could get) running beautifully

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdeZ0okfhU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You guys keep carrying on, you should meet out at the monkey bars.

It really doesn't matter which cell is better.

And Spike, I never had an esteem. I was worried in getting the connect so early, cause it might have problems, like the esteem had when it first came out.

The $20 jump in price is a long story. Lets just say they screwed me. And they are continuing to screw people over.
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@ohbaby
I think one of the first Esteem batches was defective. Most people, including myself, did not have those issues, such as rebooting.
You should start a new thread with a better name, such as MetroPCS Complains.
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Verrrry late, but the price increase on the esteem was justified by the fact that surprisingly...It costs more to make than the connect. Metro kept the esteem at such a low price because it was a forerunner phone for them. The connect is part of the next generation, but was meant as a cheaper holdoff until they started selling phones with ics as the main firmware.

quarter metro info, quarter lg info, the rest is guess work.
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Verrrry late, but the price increase on the esteem was justified by the fact that surprisingly...It costs more to make than the connect. Metro kept the esteem at such a low price because it was a forerunner phone for them. The connect is part of the next generation, but was meant as a cheaper holdoff until they started selling phones with ics as the main firmware.

quarter metro info, quarter lg info, the rest is guess work.
Lol, source?
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We all know the connect is a better phone, technicaly. Doesnt change the fact that the connect came in too late when other carriers have had dual cores with way bigger screens for a while. Its just the flagship phone that people are waiting to be replaced with a better phone already.

Metro has been behind in the smartphone game for a long time now if you want to be on point! Which it being prepaid, their goal is not to compete with the top 4, but to compete with the other prepaid services(including the prepaid side of the top 4)Which metro does actually pretty well at for most consumer trying to save money or dont want to pay high deposit with the top 4 just to have a cell phone! Hence why you see more cheap phone than you do something actually worthy of a techie.



But back to my main point, i went to pay my mom bill. And noticed that im pretty much covered in lte now for them and went to go see what phones they offer now. The sales rep also told me the gs3 is coming to metro and that it will be downgrade the specs a lil like they did the esteem!(Which i figured since i know the cost of that phone isnt going to run metro cheap)

But this girl in front of me acting like she was the *hit, was like

Girl- Hey whats your best phone out right now!
Salesgirl- the connect and the esteem. But i prefer the connect for its specs
Girl- Then why that *hit cheaper than the esteem?
Salesgirl- Well the esteem has a lil bigger screen and hdmi, but the connect is dual core, 1gb or ram, nova display, yada yada....
Girl- Well the esteem must be worth the price cause they both lg and the esteem has to be better cause its price way more than the other lg?
Salesgirl- (seeing here face tell she just wanted the sale) Yea......it is
Girl- Well i take the esteem! Got to stunt on them h*s

Me- Laughing and doing a face palm at the same time!


THIS is the reason why the phone is more cause metro knows people are just going to walk in their and go "They both lg, this one must be better cause its cost more!"


Get as much money as you can for any device!
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^^wow

as the old saying goes. "there's a sucker born every minute".
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903 just witnessed exactly what I talked about way in the beginning of this thread...

I love saying I told you so.
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^^wow

as the old saying goes. "there's a sucker born every minute".
Amen.
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Yah, I kinda laughed when I saw the specs sheet for the esteem. One core... less RAM... same resolution (just a slightly larger screen), AND its $100 more. Yah Im glad I paid less for one of the fastest androids available right now. : )
Actually metro does this crap every time they are about to let go of a phone. Don't be surprised if they increase the price of the connect in a few months once they start subsidizing newer models. I have an LG Esteem but it would be really stupid to buy it for $380. The same goes for that stupid light ray phone that came out. It is practically double what the connect cost and stats wise I could argue the connect is almost as good.
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