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Old July 17th, 2012, 02:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm currently using the Samsung Galaxy Indulge and am wanting to upgrade very soon to the Connect or Esteem. I like the look of the Connect with the dual core 1.2ghz processor, 5mp camera, front facing camera, and Gingerbread, plus the NOVA screen. I use my phone for web surfing, calling, photos, texts, and social networks almost everyday. Not heavy usage normally, few minutes here and few minutes there - unless I'm at a political phonebank doing calls for a few hours which is the most stress I put on my phone. Will the Connect work? I'm reading good things and bad things about it like dismal battery life (although Indulge is ..I get a full day on the Indulge normally - using Any Cut to cut 4g) and overheating. Connect users - your thoughts?

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I asked a few months ago about the Esteem, but had to get a new computer instead. I got good reviews about the Esteem, but with Connect out I want to see what Connect people think.

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Google esteem vs connect

Go to metro stores and feel them in your hands.

Realize you love the lightweight slim design of the connect and it's superior guts.

Realize that you also love the solid feel of the esteem and can actually use the HDMI out to not look at porn.

Here's my rundown...

Esteem pros
Good development already started
HDMI out
Twice the internal memory.
Feels solid
Slightly larger (0.3 in) screen

Connect pros
1.2ghz dual core processor
Twice the ram
Feels light at first then you realize the esteem is, in fact, a brick
Ability to use 4g while talking on the phone


I'd think of more but those are most important to me.
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Notification lights on LG Esteem is another pro.
If you like the feel and design of Connect, go with Connect.
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If you like the feel and design of Connect, go with Connect.

Lol, build an app to compare them!

Led pissed me off, forgot to mention it.
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I think the only thing that holds me back from a sure yes is the overheating and battery issues I've been reading about. I really don't want to suffer through bulky case and like the slimmer phone - especially coming off the Indulge. About the only time I use HDMI is with my laptop so not a big concern for me. I guess I'm really leaning Connect, just want to hear more about the above issues.

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Led pissed me off, forgot to mention it.
Haha, yes I should.
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Both phones consume battery heavily. And both of them are bulky once you hook up an extended battery.
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My phone runs warm to the touch (110-115f) constantly and I have had overheating shutdown initiate twice. Both overheats were while charging and tethering for long periods. I was also overlooked at a nice stable 1.8ghz
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I think the battery issues are mostly easy to handle. I use a custom launcher, keyboard, typically don't use 4G (hell 3G vs 4G little difference THANK YOU METROPCS!). Thanks Tokenpoke. I won't be overclocking or tethering or anything and read the ZVA fixes overheating so I guess I'll see how it goes haha. I got 7 days to take it back if I think it's a FAIL! regardless when I buy it.

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Oh, for your use I think you'll be happy. Maybe not for phonebank but otherwise happy
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First off going from the Indulge to the Esteem is kinda a downgrade. The hummingbird in the indulge outperforms the esteems snapdragon. But realistically if all you do is surf the web the indulge is more than enough. The esteem is cool if u have the 70$ plan with free movies and such as the esteem does have the HDMI out port. Honestly I would say the connect is more for gamers or developers who need the higher performance to handle these resource intensive programs. But with the connect being 100$ cheaper than the esteem if you are gonna upgrade it dosent really make sense to pay all that extra money for an inferior phone. Just my opinion
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First off going from the Indulge to the Esteem is kinda a downgrade. The hummingbird in the indulge outperforms the esteems snapdragon. But realistically if all you do is surf the web the indulge is more than enough. The esteem is cool if u have the 70$ plan with free movies and such as the esteem does have the HDMI out port. Honestly I would say the connect is more for gamers or developers who need the higher performance to handle these resource intensive programs. But with the connect being 100$ cheaper than the esteem if you are gonna upgrade it dosent really make sense to pay all that extra money for an inferior phone. Just my opinion
So you're saying Connect? Which is what I'm leaning. Indulge is starting to slow and freeze (nonetheless getting old :P) up so I defiantly want to upgrade.
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Has ZVA basically fixed overheating issues?
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I made the switch from the old indulge to a Connect a few months or so ago, and haven't looked back. Overheating has not been a problem for me. There maybe times where I might be using a lot, like netflix or pushing it by benchmarking it while overclocking it. Those times the phone reported 100~109f... I defiantly did NOT feel the heat, like I did with the Indulge.

Speed wise, on stock speeds it runs circles around the Indulge out performs it in every way. It is able to do everything that I throw at it. I am very impressed with it. Battery is okay, but don't get me wrong it is much better then the Indulge. On heavy use, running at stock speeds I can get about 8hrs. Very light use, I have found it gets 12hrs or so.

Also, it gets VoLTE and can do VoLTE+LTE Data at the same time (that means you can call and browse the web at the same time). VoLTE (and VoLTE + LTE Data) was promised to the Indulge but they never brought that. The Esteem is in the same boat as the Indulge, it has the same 1st gen LTE Sim Card and cannot do that.

The way I see it so far

Connect if you want
-better processor
-A more crisper & clearer display that is un-noticeably smaller then the Esteem
-VoLTE+Data at the same time

Esteem if you want,
-Notification lights, the Connect doesn't have this
-Bigger screen, pixel density is closer to the indulge. The Connect has a high pixel density screen like the iPhone 4/4s
-Mini HDMI out, you can hook it to a TV
-Accessories like a dock for watching videos, and extended battery from LG. Wish the Connect had the same treatment

I love my Connect, my only regret is not being able to get it sooner than I did...

You don't to take my word for it though here is a comparison, with the Indulge thrown in for reference... [Link]
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From what you explained the esteem may be better. Unless your like me and like being able to play and use anything on the market without lag.
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From what you explained the esteem may be better. Unless your like me and like being able to play and use anything on the market without lag.

How so?

Oh, and pixel density is actually the same on the connect and esteem.
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I made the switch from the old indulge to a Connect a few months or so ago, and haven't looked back. Overheating has not been a problem for me. There maybe times where I might be using a lot, like netflix or pushing it by benchmarking it while overclocking it. Those times the phone reported 100~109f... I defiantly did NOT feel the heat, like I did with the Indulge.

Speed wise, on stock speeds it runs circles around the Indulge out performs it in every way. It is able to do everything that I throw at it. I am very impressed with it. Battery is okay, but don't get me wrong it is much better then the Indulge. On heavy use, running at stock speeds I can get about 8hrs. Very light use, I have found it gets 12hrs or so.

Also, it gets VoLTE and can do VoLTE+LTE Data at the same time (that means you can call and browse the web at the same time). VoLTE (and VoLTE + LTE Data) was promised to the Indulge but they never brought that. The Esteem is in the same boat as the Indulge, it has the same 1st gen LTE Sim Card and cannot do that.

The way I see it so far

Connect if you want
-better processor
-A more crisper & clearer display that is un-noticeably smaller then the Esteem
-VoLTE+Data at the same time

Esteem if you want,
-Notification lights, the Connect doesn't have this
-Bigger screen, pixel density is closer to the indulge. The Connect has a high pixel density screen like the iPhone 4/4s
-Mini HDMI out, you can hook it to a TV
-Accessories like a dock for watching videos, and extended battery from LG. Wish the Connect had the same treatment

I love my Connect, my only regret is not being able to get it sooner than I did...

You don't to take my word for it though here is a comparison, with the Indulge thrown in for reference... [Link]
Neither phone on MetroPCS works in VoLTE mode right now. You can talk and use data on Connect at the same time, but it is not VoLTE. Once MetroPCS rolls out VoLTE, then LG Esteem must be capable of voice and data at the same time. I know LG Esteem is capable of LTE because Verizon successfully tested VoLTE on LG Revolution, Esteem's twin.
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I'm bout convinced to get the Connect . I don't even have a HDMI out cable for phone, really don't care about the LED lights, and damn the Esteem is a brick. Thanks for your help guys - I'll post update when I get phone in a few days.
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How so?

Oh, and pixel density is actually the same on the connect and esteem.
He said he only really browsed the web. How could pixel density be the same when the.connectbhas a smaller screen? Yet they both have a 480x800 res?
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Also, read the overheating complains for the Connect. The update does not seem to help.
If you don't have to get a phone now, better wait till fall. They will have something better by then.
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If you don't have to get a phone now, better wait till fall. They will have something better by then.
It does
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Not for everyone. Read the forums. I think they are trying to hide a batch of defective phones. My mom's Connect was not any warmer than my Esteem without the update. I have updated it anyway for her though. The same with Esteem. Some Esteems had rebooting issue, so they issued an update; however, most Esteems were fine without an update.
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I'm getting all these mixed comments that it does work and doesn't work haha. My Metro store is really great and go the extra mile for customers so if were to have a problem I know they'd help me in the right direction quickly. The only phone that appears to be coming soon is One V and I'm sure for the price they'll set I mine as well get the Connect. I mean there are days I really can stress my phone down and other days I hardly touch it. On a typical days its a few checks of social media and web, couple calls, and texting likely the biggest use. From what I can see the Connect is a good choice...maybe LG/Metro will release ICS
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My biggest issue with all 4G Metro phones is abysmal battery life. I hope new phones will have a better battery life.
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He said he only really browsed the web. How could pixel density be the same when the.connectbhas a smaller screen? Yet they both have a 480x800 res?

You're right, I was thinking resolution.... though the connect has a sharper, brighter screen....
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I think the only thing that holds me back from a sure yes is the overheating and battery issues I've been reading about. I really don't want to suffer through bulky case and like the slimmer phone - especially coming off the Indulge. About the only time I use HDMI is with my laptop so not a big concern for me. I guess I'm really leaning Connect, just want to hear more about the above issues.

Thanks for the speedy replies.
i agree battery life is bad on indulge but you could consider buying a bigger battery instead of paying 300 and up for those phones also indulge is only phone with keyboard
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Yeah, better wait. LG Connect is still somewhat a miss as a phone.
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Connect suck ass. Battery is really poor. Esteem with custom roms and go as smooth as the connect. I would get an esteem if i were u. I regret mine.
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My Esteem with a standard ROM is as smooth Connect.
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Connect sucks so bad that even Amazon.com seems to be dumping its stock of LG connect. They have priced it for $279, $229 after mail-in rebate.
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Sweet, spare, spare, spare phone.... (have esteem, connect, and attain 4g and a few 3g phones.... I'm an android whore)
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Yes, you also can use the spare Connect to cook or reheat food in the wilderness!
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Yes, you also can use the spare Connect to cook or reheat food in the wilderness!

Hellz Yeah! Skr8 down through okeefnokee to homasassa springs....

Don't forget a spare, esteem to hammer stuff with
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Yes no yes no. IDK what to do lol
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No. Don't waste your money if your phone still fits your needs. Wait till the holiday season. By then, both Connect and Esteem will be history.
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No. Don't waste your money if your phone still fits your needs. Wait till the holiday season. By then, both Connect and Esteem will be history.
Personally I don't mind turning off 4g, I do on Indulge and with Metro speeds there is such little difference. I've thought about the battery issue and have read that people killing 4g get a better battery reception. The one thing I have worried about is the overheating which seems hit and miss. I've been looking and the only phone that was supposedly coming out is the One V, but there is nothing new on it nor any other phone developments.

My Indulge is starting to get kinda laggy. I'm getting locks ups almost every time I do something and the other day a photo uploaded 6 times to FB thanks to that. So I really am looking to upgrade.
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Personally I don't mind turning off 4g, I do on Indulge and with Metro speeds there is such little difference.
Where do you live? My 4G is usually 3-5 Mbps so there is a difference for me.
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I'm getting 1-2mbps download on 4g and when I'm on 3g I hardly see the difference. I'm in the Dallas market and 3g has taken it over lately.
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If this is the case then get a really good 3g phone and flash it to metro.
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If this is the case then get a really good 3g phone and flash it to metro.
They ended Metro Flash - wish they didn't that could of been a viable option
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Not through metro... you can flash yourself or have someone do it. I kean you can get any verizon or sprint phone on metro
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Oh? Anyone got more info?
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If you want to do it yourself go on xda developers.... but i advise you to go on craigslist and searchetro flash. Many will come up.. there gunna charge like 60 bucks though. But you.will be on thw 40 dollar plan... i had the original htc touch flashed
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Any further info? I've been reading and notice that overheating seems to be a issue for people that use this phone with heavy usage or heavy apps and I don't use it for that - although my habits could change with a better quality phone. I'm kinda leaning toward getting the Connect and take a risk. Sometimes I think battery issues are exaggerated although these companies need to learn how to support a phone with a good battery. I've been hearing great things about the phone and then some downsides. I've been reading XDA, but just checking if anyone here further info on flashing... I might change my mind.
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I have read today on this forum that Samsung Galaxy S3 is coming to Metro in September or October.
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I have read today on this forum that Samsung Galaxy S3 is coming to Metro in September or October.
I was reading that and started thinking about waiting. I checked the "pre-order" page -- Metro has been taken off so makes me wonder.
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I'm really starting to think I might wait to see what Metro does over next couple months. If S3 rumors are true I'm for sure going to wait haha! Spike you have link?

I've bounced back and forth the past couple days with yes to the Connect, then no and maybe flashing, but now I think waiting will be my best option. I'm going to keep digging though.
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