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Old March 4th, 2012, 09:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sad is juice defender safe?

The second day I got my phone I downloaded ready battery saver or something like that and it permanently killed my data connection and I had to do a factory reset so I has to redo everything and I have not downloaded anything like that since. It's been a few months and people keep taking about juice defender because it turns off your data when your screen is off. Do you think it's safe to download or not. Honestly, I'm scared stiff of messing up my phone again, but I need my battery. Help me out?

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the truth is u can try them and just download data switch. so that if you dont see your data come on. just click it and it will. turn it on. u can also manually go to (settings> wireless&network> mobile networks> and enable data) =]
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I use it on my new Vivid and have had no issues at all. Connects to Mobile whenever I'm away from my home LAN and back again when I'm in range. Very configurable, and has various profiles to suit your needs and desire to be "hands on." Overnight, with the phone off, I see a 3-5% drop in the battery level.
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Its probably safer than some of the others as it has it has a larger user base and more customers would notice if there were an issue.

That said, juicedefender did break my 4g the last time I was playing with it a few months ago. It was fixable without a factory reset but it wasn't an obvious solution.

I'm running it again now. So far so good.
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Try 2x battery.
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the truth is u can try them and just download data switch. so that if you dont see your data come on. just click it and it will. turn it on. u can also manually go to (settings> wireless&network> mobile networks> and enable data) =]
I have a data toggle widget and it works great but when I'm out and about and i forget to turn it off I don't want my batery draining out on me
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Try 2x battery.
Can you tell me more about it
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Its probably safer than some of the others as it has it has a larger user base and more customers would notice if there were an issue.

That said, juicedefender did break my 4g the last time I was playing with it a few months ago. It was fixable without a factory reset but it wasn't an obvious solution.

I'm running it again now. So far so good.
How did you fix it
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i had a problem with juice defender where i wouldnt receive calls when my screen was off but when it was on i would get them anyone else have the same issue?
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Been using Juice Defender for months now. No complaints at all.
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How did you fix it
It was an anycut shortcut. I think it was called lte configuration. Then click on setting initialization... resets 4g
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or the way i mentioned it in my post.
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Be sure not to use the 2G/3G/4G toggle feature (Advanced settings). Other than that, JuiceDefender works pretty good.
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or the way i mentioned it in my post.
Sometimes the settings options don't work because it renamed the internet....
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i tried juice defender, but i noticed it kinda slowed my phone down a bit. not sure why. does it throttle CPU? never found a CPU option anyway. didnt notice any battery saving either oddly. but hey, it didnt hurt either. can always uninstall
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It was an anycut shortcut. I think it was called lte configuration. Then click on setting initialization... resets 4g
What is an "anycut shortcut"
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What is an "anycut shortcut"
Anycut is an app from the android market. Once it is installed you can use it to create a desktop shortcut to any apps or activity on your phone including some hidden system settings. Use with care.
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Update: juicedefender broke my 4g again lol. A lot of people run it without event but my phone doesn't like it at all. Trying out green power to see if it is gentler with my 4g settings.
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Get Juice Defender Ultimate. I think it toggles the data MUCH faster than the free version. Plus you have MANY more tweaks you can do to your phone. I did a comparison and having JD clearly saves a TON of juice. The truth is always in the numbers so try them for yourself or take other peoples word. I've tried them all and JD is by far the best, but only the Ultimate so pony up the 5 bucks and be done with it. Trust me
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Update: juicedefender broke my 4g again lol. A lot of people run it without event but my phone doesn't like it at all. Trying out green power to see if it is gentler with my 4g settings.

Out of curiosity, how does it "break" your 4G exactly?

Did you read the tutorial on how to use the app properly? You have to set the app correctly or it will not work right. I have NO problems with the app and i've been using it for months and months. My 4G STOPS as soon as my screen cuts off and doesn't come back on until I unlock my phone and it comes back on instantly. I can even check the time without unlocking it and the 4G still stays off like it's supposed to.

With 30 minutes of moderate use my battery ran down to 70. With 30 minutes of moderate use with JD on, my battery ran down to 95. Numbers don't lie. I tried all the battery apps and nothing came even remotely close to JD.

Some phones are different and apps can work different for all phones, BUT you must read the directions to ensure you are using the app to it's fullest and correctly in order to get everything out of it.
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It breaks as in 1x only. No 4g for you. I did not have it set to manage the 2g/3g/4g section as that looked like trouble. Pretty much default except for some scheduling etc. I was using ultimate both times. Life is short. I'm moving on ;-)
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I've used JD for months and with kanaidas kernel I get about 36 hours on a charge. No slow downs no data, wifi, or 4g issues. I do have JD ultimate and I love it. It turns data off when the screen is off and turns it on when I unlock the screen.
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he mean this. this will surely bring your 4G back.

How to get your 4g back. (without doing factory resets or phone trades)
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It breaks as in 1x only. No 4g for you. I did not have it set to manage the 2g/3g/4g section as that looked like trouble. Pretty much default except for some scheduling etc. I was using ultimate both times. Life is short. I'm moving on ;-)

That's interesting. Honestly if it were me, I would figure why it's doing that and and fix it because it's the best battery saving app out there. All other apps are slow to turn data back on and they don't have NEARLY the amount of features as Ultimate JD.

If you ever want to use it again let me know and we can go over each setting with what I have set on mine and see if we can find the problem.
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Thanks.

I did reinstall it. Had me annoyed yesterday but I know there is a good app in there somewhere.

Right now it is set to manage mobile by schedule & wifi by location. Thats it. No root access. No 2g/3g/4g toggle. Everything else is defaults. Keeping it simple and may add one feature at a time to see what is making it disable 4g. It happened twice so it wasn't a random thing.
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I did reinstall it. Had me annoyed yesterday but I know there is a good app in there somewhere.

Right now it is set to manage mobile by schedule & wifi by location. Thats it. No root access. No 2g/3g/4g toggle. Everything else is defaults. Keeping it simple and may add one feature at a time to see what is making it disable 4g. It happened twice so it wasn't a random thing.

I agree. One thing at a time. Okay. Here is mine. I'll only put what I have enabled.



Aggressive option. Advanced option.

Controls tab- mobile data enabled. wife enabled. Options auto and wifi are enabled. auto sync enabled.

Schedules tab- schedule enabled. freq. 1h duration 1m. Controls default.

Triggers tab- battery enabled. batt. thresh-5%. Screen enabled. Options-ignore on low battery. Controls- custom, data and wifi enabled. Traffic enabled. Traffic thresh normal, 15s.




That's it. And this works perfect for me. Connectivity turns on and off with the screen usually with no lag when turning on so A LOT of battery is being saved when the battery is off.

Now I don't have a lot of things using background service to sync and what not, you might, so you might have to adjust a few things for that BUT everything should still work fine.

Good luck and let me know how it turns out. Maybe we can find out what the hell is wrong.
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I agree. One thing at a time. Okay. Here is mine. I'll only put what I have enabled.



Aggressive option. Advanced option.

Controls tab- mobile data enabled. wife enabled. Options auto and wifi are enabled. auto sync enabled.

Schedules tab- schedule enabled. freq. 1h duration 1m. Controls default.

Triggers tab- battery enabled. batt. thresh-5%. Screen enabled. Options-ignore on low battery. Controls- custom, data and wifi enabled. Traffic enabled. Traffic thresh normal, 15s.




That's it. And this works perfect for me. Connectivity turns on and off with the screen usually with no lag when turning on so A LOT of battery is being saved when the battery is off.

Now I don't have a lot of things using background service to sync and what not, you might, so you might have to adjust a few things for that BUT everything should still work fine.

Good luck and let me know how it turns out. Maybe we can find out what the hell is wrong.
Sounds very similar in setup. Auto disable is grayed out for me. Maybe because I selected wifi by location. I didn't select wifi preferred. It turns on wifi anyway when I am at a known router. For scheduling I used the default 15 minutes. I kinda need a few apps to have frequent access (gmail & groupme). I know I had a more complicated setup before when 4g got disabled but I don't recall the settings. This setup seems to be working fine so far.

Btw, green power didn't turn off my data at all best I could tell. Every time I turned on the screen data was already on. Location based wifi worked tho.
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Sounds very similar in setup. Auto disable is grayed out for me. Maybe because I selected wifi by location. I didn't select wifi preferred. It turns on wifi anyway when I am at a known router. For scheduling I used the default 15 minutes. I kinda need a few apps to have frequent access (gmail & groupme). I know I had a more complicated setup before when 4g got disabled but I don't recall the settings. This setup seems to be working fine so far.

Btw, green power didn't turn off my data at all best I could tell. Every time I turned on the screen data was already on. Location based wifi worked tho.

With the free version it seemed like turning data on and off was sketchy. I didn't like it. But when I bought Ultimate it was boss. Turning the data off when your screen is off is what really saves the most battery. If you start downloading something it will wait until it's done to cut connectivity off.

I just wander if it has something to do with the wifi settings that's messing up your 4G. I don't use wifi hardly so I turn off all the settings.
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I personally didn't like juice defender. it wasn't a difference in my battery life but the best one so far that I like is power max app my lasted all day for 16 hrs with me being on the intetnet
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i had a problem with juice defender where i wouldnt receive calls when my screen was off but when it was on i would get them anyone else have the same issue?
I am also having the same problem.....have you got any solution..
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I am also having the same problem.....have you got any solution..
Uninstall it and reinstall. Screen off shouldn't have any effect on calls.
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