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Old January 13th, 2010, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've noticed that the phone lasts, with no use, for about 24 hours. which is ridiculous. Is this an Android thing or a result of all the LG/Rogers bloatware i can't uninstall?

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I've noticed that the phone lasts, with no use, for about 24 hours. which is ridiculous. Is this an Android thing or a result of all the LG/Rogers bloatware i can't uninstall?
I had a short argument with the tech support when i called in regards to the battery life. I told him that I just got the phone for a day and the battery drains like hell. At night before going to sleep, it was at 98 % and after 7 hours later, the battery was at 67%. I said this is unacceptable. Then he went on and said it's normal because it's a smartphone. I told him that I also have a dream and they are not behaving the same manner. There's no way a phone on a standby will drained almost 30%. I told him that i am going back to the Rogers store to exchange the battery and that seems to solve the problem.
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Try to kill unwanted process & see how it works! i hv downloaded ATK from market place - works great.
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I to have noticed my battery is not holding a charge either, I just got mine about 4 weeks ago and I charged it up all night, I got up unplugged it and turned it on and I never even used it, It sat on my desk all day, I heard a beep so I thought I had a sms and when I looked it was warning me that I was at 11%, I even checked Task Manager and nothing was running and today it was the same thing again, I hope that Rogers will replace the battery in it, or the phone for I have been having other issues to.
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Well....with heavy use my phone was lasting from unplug when I wake up (6am) to bedtime (10pm) - that's 16hrs.
When i changed the settings to check my email, twitter, and Facebook accounts as often as the device would let me, my battery life was cut to almost half of that - 8hrs.
I have since changed it back to every half hour, and the battery life has returned to 12-24hrs.

Hence, the way you set up your Eve significantly affects your battery life.
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I don't even bother activating the GPS unless I'm plugged into my car charger... A process killing app is a must have too.
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this is new for me charging a phone nearly every night. i charged it last night 100% full at 6am, now 9pm 60% so there is no way i can stretch this out for the next day, maybe but would be cutting it close. my usage is moderate not real heavy.does anyone know if they make 'tips' from mini-usb to micro usb? was thinking i could use my old chager for the car that is mini-usb.
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I have the same problem - altho my phone is already set up to update twitter, email etc whenever. Will try unsetting that and if it doesnt improve will be contacting my provider for a new battery!
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I just got my Eve last week. It is lasting me for about 4.5 days on a charge while using (doing anything out of the locked standby) the phone about 30-45 minutes a day. Wifi and gps off unless i need it. I don't have any gimmicky apps installed either. Not sure if it is just that my battery is brand new or what.
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I talked to Rogers tech support last week about this and the answer is "They will not replace the battery..."

It seems that with moderate levels of use, 24hrs seems normal to them?

They will replace the battery if the usage cycle decreases or degenerates.

Still my old BB Curve would last at the very least 48hrs...
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I just got my Eve last week. It is lasting me for about 4.5 days on a charge while using (doing anything out of the locked standby) the phone about 30-45 minutes a day. Wifi and gps off unless i need it. I don't have any gimmicky apps installed either. Not sure if it is just that my battery is brand new or what.
Maybe there is a particular lot of batteries that were sub-standard - I got my eve new a week ago, and its NEVER done a day without needing a charge. Are you in the US or elsewhere? I am UK but seem to be having the same problems as the rest of the users on this board, so that would disprove my argument I guess... but would be interesting to know where yours was from. Mine was from virgin. I put it on airplane mode overnight to prevent email updates waking me up and using too much battery and it uses nearly a quarter of the battery to do that! A normal days use means I'm running for the charger around mid afternoon. Would be a lot easier to manage if they provided a car charger with the handset... although I was very impressed its one of the makes that are doing the mini usb chargers!
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I got mine from Rogers in Canada. When i first got it, I charged the battery fully then let it drain till the phone couldn't even turn back on then, i let it charge again and did the same. I don't know if that makes any difference but I remember hearing it is good for the battery. Is it possible that it's just your battery level indicator? Or does it actually shut down? Like i said earlier I can last at least 3 whole days with one charge on mine. Normally more than 4. I don't have it checking alerting me about new emails, if that matters. I also don't have any "realtime" widgets. I am also not on 3g speeds where i live.
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Well....with heavy use my phone was lasting from unplug when I wake up (6am) to bedtime (10pm) - that's 16hrs.
When i changed the settings to check my email, twitter, and Facebook accounts as often as the device would let me, my battery life was cut to almost half of that - 8hrs.
I have since changed it back to every half hour, and the battery life has returned to 12-24hrs.

Hence, the way you set up your Eve significantly affects your battery life.
This seems like the best solution.

I'm very disappointed with battery life. I would expect at least 24 hours of battery life, but I get less than 16 hours it would seem on just standby mode with all the apps I've installed.

I don't want to get rid of my apps either so will see. I've never had to manage battery life on previous phones. (Mine was Sony Ericson)

There are just to many things I'm not getting use to... even after having the phone for 4 weeks now.
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for a 1500mah battery this is crazy how it eats it up;

i found a little trick that can make the battery life last a bit longer. what i have done is don't turn it off when going to bed and charge it from the computer (if you keep yours on) or plug into an ac outlet. then when done charging or next morning it's ready to take with you just unplug it. that way the phone does not need to boot up and it does not eat battery loading all that bloatware/updates as phone as it first starts on a fresh boot up. just run your task killer if anything loads through the night. i have seen on my phone it can save 10-12% of battery doing this method. i think it helps a little and thought i'd share that.

does anyone know when is the 10,000 mah battery coming out ?? lmao
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To be totally honest, smart phones are notorious for battery life, if you use:
1) 3G Data Connection
2) Push/Pull email (Gmail/Exchange)
3) WiFi turned on
4) GPS turned on

I used an HTC Dream and I'd be lucky if it last from 8am to 12 midnight. That's what you can expect from a smart phone that is active on the data connection.

However, I've read posts that if you rooted your EVE, you can install SetCPU that can slow down the CPU clock when idle and conserve battery. Maybe a good solution to try?
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...I even checked Task Manager and nothing was running and today it was the same thing again, I hope that Rogers will replace the battery in it, or the phone for I have been having other issues to.

Hi, how do I find the Task Manager on my Eve? I somehow think I've closed all my browsers and somehow that's not always the case... I get notifications from facebook or hotmail which means that I'm still online and that = me spending money needlessly.
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There is no task manager installed on the eve oem.

You have to look for "task killer" on the android market.
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Thanks, got it!

Is it possible that every single app is open - and I mean ALL of them! Facebook, MSN, Email, Apps I dwnld from the Market like Ďsudokuí 'useless facts and 'fling flang tap done' (it's a to do list). If there's an option to log out, I do but there usually isn't so I just hit the home or back key and assume Iíll be logged out this way! Oh man, thankfully Rogers gave me free data for 2 months, mind you, now I know why... so I can figure out this damn phone!
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I have had my LG Eve for one week and the battery seems to be lasting OK.
The last time I charged it was when I rooted it Saturday evening, so by midnight tonight it will have lasted about 3 full days. The battery meter states 44% remaining.

There were a few apps that kept starting before I removed them from the phone (Telenav GPS, and Moxier Mail Client) and they probably consumed some of the battery; I use Task Panel Lite (it is an app killer), and I make sure that the only thing running is Task Panel Lite.

Since I am over the wowee factor now (ok fine it is still pretty wowee!) and using it like my previous phone the battery life seems good, although since I have WiFi at home and work there are times when it is very handy to check my Gmail account and surf a bit (I don't have a data plan).

Since it is essentially a small computer I didn't mind tweaking it a bit to get a bit of extra life out of the battery, but isn't it typical of the Seller to provide a phone (or computer phone) with all kinds of bloatware?
This is just like buying a laptop from a big company...you spend 3 hours after getting it removing useless software.
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I have had my LG Eve for one week and the battery seems to be lasting OK.
The last time I charged it was when I rooted it Saturday evening, so by midnight tonight it will have lasted about 3 full days. The battery meter states 44% remaining. .
I've gotta ask, and excuse my ignorance, what is "rooting"?
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I've gotta ask, and excuse my ignorance, what is "rooting"?
http://androidforums.com/lg-eve/49587-lg-eve-gw620-rogers-rooting-guide-remove-rogers-apps.html

See the above link.
It is the means of getting in to the phone such that you can modify it.
By rooting the phone you can rid the phone of annoying programs.
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As fun as that looks Ill probably just screw up my phone soooo I'll just let it be for now. Thanks though!
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I had the problem as well with battery life, I wasn't as impressed with it, but the main things to turn off are the GPS,

Settings - Security & location - Enable GPS satellites

And the HSPA connection also eats battery life, when I am just using the phone for regular browsing or mail/msn'ing I keep it on Edge/GPRS.

To switch between the two, in Dialer hit *#*#4636#*#* (4636 spells INFO)

This will bring you into a "Testing" Menu
Under Phone Information scroll down to "Set Prefered network type" and select GSM only. This will slow down your network speed, but double/triple your battery life.

To turn HSPA back on, go into the same menu and select "WCDMA preferred"

I just wish there was a widget that could quick select between the two...

Again, its a trade off between network speed and battery life, as most of the time my phone is idle in my pocket, I want the battery life.

Hope this helps,


Please note, I don't know what the OTHER settings adjust yet, so I don't suggest touching them either unless YOU know what you are doing.
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the Task manager did the thing for me. 3 days of batterylife, this use to bee 16 hours.

Auto kill feature in the task manager is great.
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I had the problem as well with battery life, I wasn't as impressed with it, but the main things to turn off are the GPS,

Settings - Security & location - Enable GPS satellites

And the HSPA connection also eats battery life, when I am just using the phone for regular browsing or mail/msn'ing I keep it on Edge/GPRS.

To switch between the two, in Dialer hit *#*#4636#*#* (4636 spells INFO)

This will bring you into a "Testing" Menu
Under Phone Information scroll down to "Set Prefered network type" and select GSM only. This will slow down your network speed, but double/triple your battery life.

To turn HSPA back on, go into the same menu and select "WCDMA preferred"

I just wish there was a widget that could quick select between the two...

Again, its a trade off between network speed and battery life, as most of the time my phone is idle in my pocket, I want the battery life.

Hope this helps,


Please note, I don't know what the OTHER settings adjust yet, so I don't suggest touching them either unless YOU know what you are doing.

hi there, i got the Eve a few weeks ago as well, and am definitly disappointed in the batt. life as well.

and a few minutes ago, I was charging the phone (phone off), checked on the status, and it froze on me, couldn't do anything, tried power button, dis-connected charger, nothing @ all, so I just popped the battery out and in.... charging again now...

but just a question for you in regards to ""Set Prefered network type" and select GSM only. This will slow down your network speed, but double/triple your battery life."

how much of a difference will it affect your network speed, is it minor enough you can just leave it on GSM and notice not much in change in speed, or a big difference you'll definlty need to change back and fourth.

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Apps like youtube, large webpages and downloading stuff from Market will be the most noticable, but for mail and IM you don't notice. It again depends on how you use the phone really. I have had it "GSM Only" for about two weeks now and find that I enjoy the phone more when it has battery life.... I kinda put it out of my mind that it can be "faster". Maybe when the OS update it will be better on the battery.

As for the freezing....it happens, only happened once or twice for me, popping the battery will do the trick.

Recommend getting the firmware updated as well to the latest as possible if you are comfortable doing so. It fixes alot of little bugs and glitches. The other posts here should help with that.
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Apps like youtube, large webpages and downloading stuff from Market will be the most noticable, but for mail and IM you don't notice. It again depends on how you use the phone really. I have had it "GSM Only" for about two weeks now and find that I enjoy the phone more when it has battery life.... I kinda put it out of my mind that it can be "faster". Maybe when the OS update it will be better on the battery.

As for the freezing....it happens, only happened once or twice for me, popping the battery will do the trick.

Recommend getting the firmware updated as well to the latest as possible if you are comfortable doing so. It fixes alot of little bugs and glitches. The other posts here should help with that.
Hi there, thanks for your response and suggestion. Regaring that, I am interested in possible rooting my phone as well. Now would you think it would make any difference if I were to up-date my EVE first to version 1.6 (looks like it's the only newest version out now am I correct?). then root the phone. Or vice versa, or doesn't matter which one you do 1st?

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Well there is a firmware update available now that i recommend getting, and there is an OS update to android 1.6 coming soon. I have not rooted my phone so I don't want to make that suggestion to go ahead and do it... I am personally going to wait on LG and Rogers to releae the OS update before I may even consider that.
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Well there is a firmware update available now that i recommend getting, and there is an OS update to android 1.6 coming soon. I have not rooted my phone so I don't want to make that suggestion to go ahead and do it... I am personally going to wait on LG and Rogers to releae the OS update before I may even consider that.
hi, Thought firm-ware was the same thing as the OS, since when I checked my firm-ware version, says "1.5" so I guess these are 2 different things then.

Question: When up-dating your firm-ware, do you lose any apps, changes in settings on your phone?

also where abouts do I download/update my firm-ware then, if you can provide a link that'll be greatly appreciated. thanks
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also where abouts do I download/update my firm-ware then, if you can provide a link that'll be greatly appreciated. thanks
You get the firmware update via the LG Update software that can be downloaded from LG's site. Basically, you get the USB drivers installed, get LG Update installed, and then plug in your phone and it will get the latest firmware update.

My Rogers GW620 came with v10c and I recently updated to v10f via the LG Update.

Note that if you haven't rooted you may have problems rooting if you update the firmware. People have reported that you need to enter a passcode to be able to "Enable root permissions" after entering the secret menu. On v10c you didn't need any passcode.
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my findings and my opinion, this battery does suck, i went the states for the weekend and i did not want my phone to 'roam' while i was there so i set it to airplane mode.i just wanted to be able to view the time only.it was fully charged start of the day, by the end of the day the battery usage was just the same as keeping it on with a signal.so this battery is very disappointing.now i know it's not app related causing the drain as no apps loaded while in airplane mode.
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Hello,
As I tested and confirmed with many experts, the key power issue of Android phone is the POP3 mail and the push function (email pull time) that retrieving email from the server(s) is high power consumption, it is applicable to all PDA phones (BB, iPhone, etc)

My solution is to use K-9 mail (only use version from the market ) and set the pull time (receiving email time) to 30 min or more (ideally).
(note: need to cancel the account in POP3 mail to safe power and process time)

You may feel much better with battery life and process speed.

Hope it helps,
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Hello,
As I tested and confirmed with many experts, the key power issue of Android phone is the POP3 mail and the push function (email pull time) that retrieving email from the server(s) is high power consumption, it is applicable to all PDA phones (BB, iPhone, etc)

My solution is to use K-9 mail (only use version from the market ) and set the pull time (receiving email time) to 30 min or more (ideally).
(note: need to cancel the account in POP3 mail to safe power and process time)

You may feel much better with battery life and process speed.

Hope it helps,
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thanks for the extra tips as well...

but i guess the best way would to be "root" the phone and delete the application entirely then...?
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