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Old February 4th, 2013, 06:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How can I downgrade back to D?

I'm thru with version E... its a mess.

Tethering is all messed up. Even 4G internet is gone screwy... at least half the time I need to reload a page because it times out, then loads normally.

Speeds seem just a little slower.. not much, could be a fluke... but anywhere I go since the upgrade... and its chugging on first attempt on almost all internet functions. SpeedTest is giving me 4500down/2800up... slower than my usual 6200down/4500up. I'm wondering if the PRL got messed with too?

If anyone could kindly point me in the direction to a downgrade... many thanks in advance.
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Were you able to extract the D firmware? I refreshed numerous times and continued to get Forbidden. Even tried under different browsers and continued to refresh as per the instructions but nothing.
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Me neither... cant get the D firmware... always FORBIDDEN

Is there some alternate link to the cab file?
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Well, this basically sucks.

Here's what I have ... now....

I could not get the firmware D at all... so... I went to C (from E)

This is a bad thing. Don't do it.

What you end up with is a mix of E and C... and worse.

Firmware reports that its C. However, the USB tether is still grey'd out. And 4G tether does not work... why? Because I totally lost 4G access. Tried popping in and out of airplane mode, rebooting... fuggetaboutit. Removed battery. Removed 4Gaccess card and reseated it. It REPORTS 4G access, but... when you actually try to do anything, it reports that connection with proxy server was denied.

And... can't re-root either.

Tried flashing C again. Still no 4G, still no re-root. The daemon just sits there and sits, and sits.... and sits.

Yes, drivers loaded. Yes USB debug is on. Yes I ran the exploit .apk, opened it and rebooted. Nada. Cannot re-root.

I am thinking E messes with things that C does not care or know about, and when C is again resident, it has some problems with the mess that E left behind. Just a guess.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I've had no problems with E. Works amazingly for me.
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well thats weird......Ive tosssed c d and e around various times without any problems...

http://androidforums.com/motion-4g-all-things-root/608228-questions-updates-update-releases-here-official-motion-4g-10c-d-e-firmware.html
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Well, this basically sucks.

Here's what I have ... now....

I could not get the firmware D at all... so... I went to C (from E)

This is a bad thing. Don't do it.

What you end up with is a mix of E and C... and worse.

Firmware reports that its C. However, the USB tether is still grey'd out. And 4G tether does not work... why? Because I totally lost 4G access. Tried popping in and out of airplane mode, rebooting... fuggetaboutit. Removed battery. Removed 4Gaccess card and reseated it. It REPORTS 4G access, but... when you actually try to do anything, it reports that connection with proxy server was denied.

And... can't re-root either.

Tried flashing C again. Still no 4G, still no re-root. The daemon just sits there and sits, and sits.... and sits.

Yes, drivers loaded. Yes USB debug is on. Yes I ran the exploit .apk, opened it and rebooted. Nada. Cannot re-root.

I am thinking E messes with things that C does not care or know about, and when C is again resident, it has some problems with the mess that E left behind. Just a guess.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I went from E to C yesterday and i rooted, tether works, try factory resetting.
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i dont have problems
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Well, this basically sucks.

Here's what I have ... now....

I could not get the firmware D at all... so... I went to C (from E)

This is a bad thing. Don't do it.

What you end up with is a mix of E and C... and worse.

Firmware reports that its C. However, the USB tether is still grey'd out. And 4G tether does not work... why? Because I totally lost 4G access. Tried popping in and out of airplane mode, rebooting... fuggetaboutit. Removed battery. Removed 4Gaccess card and reseated it. It REPORTS 4G access, but... when you actually try to do anything, it reports that connection with proxy server was denied.

And... can't re-root either.

Tried flashing C again. Still no 4G, still no re-root. The daemon just sits there and sits, and sits.... and sits.

Yes, drivers loaded. Yes USB debug is on. Yes I ran the exploit .apk, opened it and rebooted. Nada. Cannot re-root.

I am thinking E messes with things that C does not care or know about, and when C is again resident, it has some problems with the mess that E left behind. Just a guess.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
It seems that your 4G sim card may have went bad, an employee told me that sometimes they go bad within days. Visit an authorized retailer/corporate store and they'll fix it for free.
Also, try factory resetting to see if that fixes root not working.
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OK. Back to the op question...

How do I get the D firmware.. clicking refresh does not work!!!! I have a cramped finger to prove it.

I KNOW somebody has to have the darn kdz or cab file on your PC or SD card, could you PLEASE just upload it to drop box or media fire?
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OK. Back to the op question...

How do I get the D firmware.. clicking refresh does not work!!!! I have a cramped finger to prove it.

I KNOW somebody has to have the darn kdz or cab file on your PC or SD card, could you PLEASE just upload it to drop box or media fire?
It was working before...what the heck...(sigh)
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It was working before...what the heck...(sigh)

I guess lg noticed the mad downloads of the firmware and upped the protection... says I dont have permission or something abt logging in. I forget exactly, but its like the links are locked down good now.

I did discover a workaround I think but I need to try tomorrow.

Here's the gist...
Flash c.
Reboot once
Check for update
SHOULD update you to D

I just thought of this... reason?
When I unbricked with the media fire download a few days ago I got the D ota. Rebooted and got E

I want d because it has been deodexed btw
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Something went afoul....

I have no bluetooth, no 4G, good EV.

Gallery, or any other program that shows images, shows black squares instead!

I images are ok, as I pulled the storage SD, and they're good to go. So its something in the rendering.

Gonna back up what I can, then do a reset.... more as it comes.
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Yea it seems like it just needs to be factory rested...my phone does too, it only connects to MTP USB and nothing else.
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FIXED!

Have not tried to re-root... I'll do that later...

Got the 4G back, got pretty much everything back that I could think to check on. Gallery, bluetooth, etc etc.

So... just gotta reload all the crap I had in there... good time to houseclean anyway.
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Cool, factory resets are useful MetroPCS stores were right
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What a saga....

Whatever messed up, the "first" hard reset didn't fully work. The first hard reset went right to the "new phone" screen, where you sign up accounts, set up wifi, etc.

I thought it funny that even though the phone was "virgin"... all my apps and downloads were in the app menu. Just had to drag them back to the home screens.

Everything worked at this stage - lost all my email, but that was no biggie. Lost past text messages, again, no biggie. Web favorites, that sort of thing... gone. Based on the new phone setup screen, and things being gone, I thought the phone was reset. However, I never got the 'droid with the churning thing in his tummy when I did the reset.

Thinking it was totally reset, I tried to root again. Nada, failed. And when it failed I lost 4G, bluetooth, gallery, etc etc... just like before.

Another hard reset (vol down, power, middle and left soft keys). This time I got the 'droid with the churning tummy. I felt good about this reset.

And, voila... rooted as it ought to. And everything works. And I'm on version E.

Whew. And, I lost all those apps....which is no great loss, as I have screen shots... showing me exactly what I had, where it was (old man syndrome... I qualify!). There are some things I thought I'd use, but didn't, so I'll streamline.

What a long strange trip its been....
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Goodness.. yeah ever since I updated to firmware E things have been more buggy then usual. Sending MMS has been a pain at times.. Seeing as firmware D is inaccessible I was going to try flashing C and then doing OTA to D like Tokenpoke (let me know if that works!)..but I'm kind of scared after cj's troubles.. . Anyone? Firmware D?
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Goodness.. yeah ever since I updated to firmware E things have been more buggy then usual. Sending MMS has been a pain at times.. Seeing as firmware D is inaccessible I was going to try flashing C and then doing OTA to D like Tokenpoke (let me know if that works!)..but I'm kind of scared after cj's troubles.. . Anyone? Firmware D?

What I ended up doing was using cwm to flash the deodexed d ROM.... I lost the thread but will bump later... its in the all things root guide though...

What isn't there is this awesome AOKP CM10 I found on unleashedprepaids.net
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FWIW, I think I found my original problem... with E.

The problem is - AdFreeAndroid

When its installed, on my phone at least, its slowing browsing with MetroWeb to a crawl. This has to do with the number of, and vastness of, the lists you can subscribe to with AdFreeAndroid. I had it maxed out. That didn't bother D, but on E... another story.

With AdFreeAndroid un-installed, browsing is fast. With the stock(default) list, and no subscriptions, its fairly fast, with the odd hiccup or two when you get a page thats really filled with ads.

If I can get D, I'm going back... but at least I've got a handle on the situation.

Was a frustrating few days!
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FWIW, I think I found my original problem... with E.

The problem is - AdFreeAndroid

When its installed, on my phone at least, its slowing browsing with MetroWeb to a crawl. This has to do with the number of, and vastness of, the lists you can subscribe to with AdFreeAndroid. I had it maxed out. That didn't bother D, but on E... another story.

With AdFreeAndroid un-installed, browsing is fast. With the stock(default) list, and no subscriptions, its fairly fast, with the odd hiccup or two when you get a page thats really filled with ads.

If I can get D, I'm going back... but at least I've got a handle on the situation.

Was a frustrating few days!
thanks for this, i was having this horrible lost of 4G and i had Ad Free too, when i opened the app it said i needed to do the upgrade, so i removed the app and installed the new one and boom... 4G again!
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I recently had to do a factory reset, since then I've been getting better battery life with all the same apps installed except Adaway (i never reinstalled it because the host file still works without the app).

Hmm it is strange that the app alone is causing issues, but the host file doesn't.
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Jenna_Lenna - you have a PM

I see DocBlue has posted an alternate link for the D firmware - which I'm DLing as we speak!
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"Factory reset, metro's prophetic advice" XD

(Edit) ive got the version d kdz on my computer, i could upload it when i get home. :3
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I see DocBlue has posted an alternate link for the D firmware - which I'm DLing as we speak!
My upload has been merged with sammyz's Guide (All Things Root section)......just remember its already in kdz so no need to convert it!!!
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I saw that folks were suggesting that, over on ATR'd

Thats good - since its a valuable resource!

Cant thank ya enough!
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Exactly. Sammyz, imho you should put downloading directly from LG as "the option of last resort". Users should rely on them as little as possible, because they have no obligation to provide such downloads.

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Exactly. Sammyz, imho you should put downloading directly from LG as "the option of last resort". Users should rely on them as little as possible, because they have no obligation to provide such downloads.

Just saying
I was thinking that's what they're doing.....LG recently broke a ton of firmware links (pretty much for every LG phone ) just by changing the path of the download...I'm sure on their end all they did was rename a folder -_-

I have no space on my PC. Anyone is welcome to provide alternatives in CAB/KDZ
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I remember that about LG changing all the links. It might be easiest to keep the LG download links for all phones in one separate post, and have links to that post. That way if anything changes in the url, the process can be a lot more streamlined.

With them all in one place, a person on a Linux machine could easily update every link using a program like 'sed'.

For more space- I know a lot of people don't care for 4shared, but they offer a massive 50GB.
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I remember that about LG changing all the links. It might be easiest to keep the LG download links for all phones in one separate post, and have links to that post. That way if anything changes in the url, the process can be a lot more streamlined.

With them all in one place, a person on a Linux machine could easily update every link using a program like 'sed'.

For more space- I know a lot of people don't care for 4shared, but they offer a massive 50GB.
Only problem with 4 shared is that you must have an account to download anything.
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sammyz, I've been experiencing problems after upgrading to E. Data issues, intermittent MMS/SMS outages and 5-6 reboots a day to keep data alive. Is there a way to fix this without all of the rooting/downgrading etc?

Damn, this phone was working so well until I let the OTA happen. Now I have to root, yes?
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sammyz, I've been experiencing problems after upgrading to E. Data issues, intermittent MMS/SMS outages and 5-6 reboots a day to keep data alive.
Is this the price to pay for increased battery life?
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Is this the price to pay for increased battery life?
I'm guessing so. This is crap, my Motion worked fine without root until this MS77010e update. Metro screwed many Motion users with this upgrade, it's all over MPCS' FB page
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I'm guessing so. This is crap, my Motion worked fine without root until this MS77010e update. Metro screwed many Motion users with this upgrade, it's all over MPCS' FB page
Try factory resetting, I've had no problems at all with E after resetting.
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Try factory resetting, I've had no problems at all with E after resetting.
No dice. It still holds any MMS in limbo, and keeps saying message expired or not available, sending or receiving. Guess I'll root it and try.... I dunno.
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No dice. It still holds any MMS in limbo, and keeps saying message expired or not available, sending or receiving. Guess I'll root it and try.... I dunno.
Strange, but what's stranger is that LG is no longer pushing these phones to upgrade to E. The link still works to flash manually, but if you were running C/D, it won't upgrade to E, just to D if running C.
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Maybe E was Experimental!
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Strange, but what's stranger is that LG is no longer pushing these phones to upgrade to E. The link still works to flash manually, but if you were running C/D, it won't upgrade to E, just to D if running C.
I'm in your unbricking section here. I'm downloading the MS77010C-03 right now.... Gotta wait an hour for it, but this will work? I just want this 77010E trash off of my phone!

-EDIT- I know that I have to do the whole convert to KDZ thing, I can do this running XP? Only PC I gots ATM!
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I'm in your unbricking section here. I'm downloading the MS77010C-03 right now.... Gotta wait an hour for it, but this will work? I just want this 77010E trash off of my phone!

-EDIT- I know that I have to do the whole convert to KDZ thing, I can do this running XP? Only PC I gots ATM!
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I see DocBlue has posted an alternate link for the D firmware - which I'm DLing as we speak!
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My upload has been merged with sammyz's Guide (All Things Root section)......just remember its already in kdz so no need to convert it!!!
Thank you so much guys, I really appreciate this and I'm sure everyone else does too! <3
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Yes sir
Quick question: I'm about 20 min away from a complete .cab download, so do I HAVE to do this in emergency mode? My phone is not bricked, so can I select "diag" and just flash it while it's idle/standby?
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Quick question: I'm about 20 min away from a complete .cab download, so do I HAVE to do this in emergency mode? My phone is not bricked, so can I select "diag" and just flash it while it's idle/standby?
I wish that would work, but it doesn't :/
Just start from e-mode.
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I wish that would work, but it doesn't :/
Just start from e-mode.
Got it. Can't possibly thank you enough for your help with this. Hate asking so many questions, but there is almost 24" of fresh snow that my wife will bury me in if I brick her phone
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Got it. Can't possibly thank you enough for your help with this. Hate asking so many questions, but there is almost 24" of fresh snow that my wife will bury me in if I brick her phone
No problem, I asked a ton of questions while rooting a Samsung Prevail a few days ago....first Samsung device I ever rooted had to use ODIN...
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sammyz YOU are THE man! thank you again!! I'm back on MS77010c (plus the added bonus of 1.5 MHz CPU speed?) My 4G and data are back and I blocked the OTA update (thanks sepero!) You guys are awesome!!!
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sammyz YOU are THE man! thank you again!! I'm back on MS77010c (plus the added bonus of 1.5 MHz CPU speed?) My 4G and data are back and I blocked the OTA update (thanks sepero!) You guys are awesome!!!
All are 1.5GHz
Not sure about anyone who has B firmware.
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Try factory resetting, I've had no problems at all with E after resetting.
I still had Data issues after the reset on E

It just... would hang, or say "secure connection can not be established", or "network error has occurred". Sometimes it would load to a blank white html page. Messin' with it - and lost all 4G and all the rest of that stuff (that was probably my own fault tho).

Very happy (mostly) back on D.....
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