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Old January 27th, 2013, 01:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i wanted to know how to do this.
assuming an official update has been released.
some of my friends can just go to settings -> about phone -> software update -> check for upates
for them if one is available it will say and they'll be asked whether they wish to install it or not.
when i go through this process (using an LG optimus black p970 which since i'm in the uk should have a ICS update available) it just says "connection failed caused by authentication error"
idk wtf that means. i'm connected to wifi and have a registered gmail accound on the phone. the only thing i dont have at current is a sim card in though i doubt that is the problem.
on my samsung galaxy s i9000 i get "connection to server error" (i'm not sure if there was update from 2.3 or the i9000 though)

PLEASE NOTE: i'm a total nooob at this. i'm only interested in OFFICIAL updates. i dont want to root or flash or install custom roms or anything. just want to update IF ITS AVAILABLE

also if an update is available so it can be applied ota (over the airwaves) which would just be downloading it to the phone in the process outlined above - is that right? or it can be applied manually using a pc & ur phone. if the update is official why sometimes is it not picked up and done ota (hhope i'm using there terms right - or you can at least decipher what i'm trying to get at!)

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Old January 27th, 2013, 01:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i wanted to know how to do this.
assuming an official update has been released.
some of my friends can just go to settings -> about phone -> software update -> check for upates
for them if one is available it will say and they'll be asked whether they wish to install it or not.
when i go through this process (using an LG optimus black p970 which since i'm in the uk should have a ICS update available) it just says "connection failed caused by authentication error"
idk wtf that means. i'm connected to wifi and have a registered gmail accound on the phone. the only thing i dont have at current is a sim card in though i doubt that is the problem.
on my samsung galaxy s i9000 i get "connection to server error" (i'm not sure if there was update from 2.3 or the i9000 though)

PLEASE NOTE: i'm a total nooob at this. i'm only interested in OFFICIAL updates. i dont want to root or flash or install custom roms or anything. just want to update IF ITS AVAILABLE

also if an update is available so it can be applied ota (over the airwaves) which would just be downloading it to the phone in the process outlined above - is that right? or it can be applied manually using a pc & ur phone. if the update is official why sometimes is it not picked up and done ota (hhope i'm using there terms right - or you can at least decipher what i'm trying to get at!)
i never had a gsm phone so i never had to deal with sim cards before, but my guess would be that is your problem. the sim card is where all of your network info will be at and that is why you are getting a authentication error because it can't verify what network you are on.

and yes if there is an ota then you will just download it to the phone.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 01:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ok i'll try with a sim card.

so why sometimes do ota's fail? i mean if there is an official release but when u do a search it doesnt work then u have to do it via pc.
isnt their a way to like "Push" it via ota so it would recognise an update?
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ok i'll try with a sim card.

so why sometimes do ota's fail? i mean if there is an official release but when u do a search it doesnt work then u have to do it via pc.
isnt their a way to like "Push" it via ota so it would recognise an update?
an ota is available and sent via your carrier. it is up to them on when to send it. some people get the ota right away and sometimes others will have to wait. how they determine when, i'm not sure.

and as far as failing ota goes there can be a bunch of reasons. i think the most common reason is not enough space or just a bad connection or no connection at all.

not sure what you mean by push it via ota.....that is what an ota is, an update over the air. so as long as you have a connection and enough space....then you should be fine.
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tried it with a working sim card. still getting the same error.
any idea on how i can update? or whats causing the error how to resolve
an official ics update is availabe for this phone (lg optimus black)
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weird, can you make calls, go on the internet, or text with no issues?

you might want to call your carrier and let them know about this issue you are having. this is not a common thing. something is up though i'm not sure what it is.
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i want to update my lg optimus black p970 from 2.2.2 to ics 4.0
as far as i'm aware there is official release of ics for this phone.
when i try to do it ota i just get "connection failed caused by authentication error"
not sure whats causing it.
so these 2 sites seem to show the same method for manually updating to ics
How to Update LG Optimus Black P970 Official ICS Android 4.0 Firmware - Android Advices
Update LG Optimus Black P970 to Official Android 4.0 ICS ROM
just want to check that its official release though also the reliability of the whole process.
i'm new with all this stuff.
(or is their a way i can fit it and do it ota?)
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yes.
i'll try it with a different sim later but not holding my breath.
from a google search apparently this is a problem on a batch of phones.
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yes.
i'll try it with a different sim later but not holding my breath.
from a google search apparently this is a problem on a batch of phones.
cool beans, keep us posted.
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will do :]
i'd love for it to just work when i insert the other sim, but somehow dont think it will.
ota updates would make my life simpler.
terrrified of doing it wrong via pc!
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Looks pretty straight forward, just follow the directions and you should have 4.0 on your phone.
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ok thank.
think i'll try it.
it says:
  1. The update should now begin, so just wait and don’t make any other changes.
  2. The process should take a couple of minutes.
  3. In the end, remove the USB cord and reboot the phone
"In the end" like how do i know when its done/when to remove the usb cable?


should i be doing this with or without a sim card in the phone?
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^ tried it with another 100% working sim and getting the same error
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^ tried it with another 100% working sim and getting the same error
well i see a call in the future to your carrier. hopefully they can figure out what is going on. i must say that this is very odd.
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would it be possible to do the update manually following these instructions?
its the official relsease.
Update LG Optimus Black P970 to Official Android 4.0 ICS ROM
not sure if the errori'm getting with ota is something that would affect updating in general whether its ota or via pc.
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would it be possible to do the update manually following these instructions?
its the official relsease.
Update LG Optimus Black P970 to Official Android 4.0 ICS ROM
not sure if the errori'm getting with ota is something that would affect updating in general whether its ota or via pc.
yep looks like it is for your phone. this is what is known as a ruu(rom update utility) and it runs on your pc and upgrades the phone. pretty straight forward.
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thx i'm new to all this.
i'll give it bash!
it says run the kdz executable file. i just tried to open it on my pc ( i have lg suite installed) but it says cant open file. does it just work if my phone is connected via usb, or how am i mean to run it?
other questions:
should i leave my sim card in the phone whilst doing this update?
the instructions say i need to disable my firewall and anitvirus as it interferes with the update. i cant find a way to disable my antivirus software (its avg free 2013)
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trying to do this
Update LG Optimus Black P970 to Official Android 4.0 ICS ROM

i installed lg suite on the disc that came with the phone.
i downloaded the kdz file in the link above.
it wouldnt open on my pc normally asked me to chose a program from list or one from the web.
so i chose lg suite bc thats what its supposed to open with but i double click lg suite opens and nothing else really happens.

the instructions for installing the update say:
  1. Then, connect the handset with the computer by using its USB cord.
  2. Now, from the computer run the KDZ executable file.
  3. Up next, set “Type” and “Phone Mode” to select the .kdz file in your PC.
  4. The update should now begin, so just wait and don’t make any other changes.
  5. The process should take a couple of minutes.
  6. In the end, remove the USB cord and reboot the phone.
do i need to connect the phone via usb for the kdz file to work?
also my comp is now using lg suite as default to open it and i have no idea if its even correct or not.


why is this so damn hard! :/
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not sure but i found this, for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264289&nocache=1

it seems you can't extract that file.
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thx gave it a skim look complex for me! -_- i'll read it properly later though.

i followed this instructions
LG P970 Support: Find Manuals & Warranty Info | LG UK
when i open the program their is a list of networks and what phones have updates available for that network.
i noticed that under o2 (the network i use - both sims i tried were o2) an update isnt listed for my model of phone (p970)
it is available for tmobile & orange though.
then there is a part that just says "UK" under carrier and my model is listed under that as supported update.
so would it be bc i was using an o2 sim.
if i use a t-mobile or orange sim where the update is listed would it then probably work? (the phone is unlocked so i can put in any sim, that wont be an issue)
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thx gave it a skim look complex for me! -_- i'll read it properly later though.

i followed this instructions
LG P970 Support: Find Manuals & Warranty Info | LG UK
when i open the program their is a list of networks and what phones have updates available for that network.
i noticed that under o2 (the network i use - both sims i tried were o2) an update isnt listed for my model of phone (p970)
it is available for tmobile & orange though.
then there is a part that just says "UK" under carrier and my model is listed under that as supported update.
so would it be bc i was using an o2 sim.
if i use a t-mobile or orange sim where the update is listed would it then probably work? (the phone is unlocked so i can put in any sim, that wont be an issue)
not sure on that, but that would be a good guess.
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will give it try then.
just cba spending money on a sim if its not going to work.
probably wont be in town for another week to pick one up either.

if it did successfully update to using one of the supported networks once it was updated & that i could then switch back to using my regular o2 sim though and still have ics running right, i'd just need a supported sim to actually get the update but once it was installed use any carrier?
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so i checked and the update it is for the named carriers is only to 2.3
i dont get why noting about ics when there has apparetnly been an official update for the uk?
so now back to square 1: how to do this
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ok i got both a tmobile & orange sim.
but still getting the same error.
keeping the orange sim in the phone i followed this procedure
LG P970 Support: Find Manuals & Warranty Info | LG UK
the phone connect but then the pc gave me this:

then it froze on this screen:

i disconnected th usb and tried again from the start, but it just keeps messing up even earlier on in the process gives me this:

then it says a solution cant be found and my only option is to close the program.
(nb i have firewall & antivirus disabled)
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I feel your pain. I've spent hours trying to get my p970 to update.


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How much space do you need for an update? I'm wondering if my phone is too full to update.
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not really sure how much space as it will depend on the update and it will depend on the device. for the htc evo 4g lte as an example the latest ota was 648mb in size>>>>its pretty big but i think some of that is htc's overlay called sense.
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