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Old October 21st, 2011, 05:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2011, 11:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Anybody else having problems with built in Voice Control app?

See if the "Adapt Voice" works: Click Voice Control. Click menu. Click settings. Click Adaption. Click Adapt Voice. Click Start.

What should happen next is a series of training phrases which you are supposed to repeat into the microphone to train the program to adapt to your voice. On mine, the program just closes before the adaption training ststarts. Without the training the recognition is very poor rendering the voice control useless.
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I was having the same problem and I tried re-installing the Nuance app, it did not make any difference. Instead I installed Vlingo from the market. What a great free app and it works without any training. You should give it a try.
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if this is true then make sure to complain bitterly to their customer support team. they may be unaware of the bug and may nto fix it unless it becomes a big problem.

however don't forget that 2.3 has a very good voice control app from google which is free, and vlingo is also quite exceptional and also free. neither vlingo nor the google voice search tool require any learning stage.

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I can confirm that soundhound works fine for me, but I restored it with Titanium Backup. Shazam will test.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 04:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I can confirm that soundhound works fine for me, but I restored it with Titanium Backup. Shazam will test.
Yes SoundHound will install as long as you don't get it from the Market. Same with Shazam.
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if this is true then make sure to complain bitterly to their customer support team. they may be unaware of the bug and may nto fix it unless it becomes a big problem.

however don't forget that 2.3 has a very good voice control app from google which is free, and vlingo is also quite exceptional and also free. neither vlingo nor the google voice search tool require any learning stage.

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The google voice control said there was an update on Appbrain too which said it was not compatible once it went to the Market.
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I was having the same problem and I tried re-installing the Nuance app, it did not make any difference. Instead I installed Vlingo from the market. What a great free app and it works without any training. You should give it a try.
How did you re-install Nuance? If you have the apk, can you send it to me by private message?

I will try Vlingo, but if it does not work with bluetooth with a one touch then it is really no better than voice dialing with Google Voice Search (which voice recognition is good, but does not work with one touch bluetooth, ie need to turn on phone, open voice search app, push speak, speak into phone before call goes to bluetooth, and to top it off there is no voice confirmation so you have to look at screen to see if the app is dialing the correct number).

Can anybody get Nuance to work properly under 2.3. I am about to put in a request for a replacement phone, but if this is a universal problem, a replacement phone will be a waste of time.
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How did you re-install Nuance? If you have the apk, can you send it to me by private message?

I will try Vlingo, but if it does not work with bluetooth with a one touch then it is really no better than voice dialing with Google Voice Search (which voice recognition is good, but does not work with one touch bluetooth, ie need to turn on phone, open voice search app, push speak, speak into phone before call goes to bluetooth, and to top it off there is no voice confirmation so you have to look at screen to see if the app is dialing the correct number).

Can anybody get Nuance to work properly under 2.3. I am about to put in a request for a replacement phone, but if this is a universal problem, a replacement phone will be a waste of time.
What? Google voice search DOES work with one touch Bluetooth. Used it ever since 2.2 on me hero. No need for these other weird voice control apps if you desire bt voice control. Been dialing by voice with single touch remote bt control for about a year now.

Where did you read that google voice search doesn't support Bluetooth?
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Know nothing about a Hero but on my phone one touch blue tooth voice dialing is provided by a built in app by Nuance voice control which no longer works. I could use google voice search but that is not one touch command (see my previous post for explanation).
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I tested vlingo. It is not one touch handsfree. I might as well suffer using google's voice search (about same number of pushes without the battery drain).
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I tested vlingo. It is not one touch handsfree. I might as well suffer using google's voice search (about same number of pushes without the battery drain).
yea, I know vlingo isn't.

but what do you mean by one touch handsfree? because, as I noted, with google voice input you just press the button on your bluetooth once and wait until it says "say command" (albeit pretty quietly on most phones), then say your voice command and wait. it's all pretty simple. Maybe I've been missing out if there is a better way to do this on android though! :-)

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yea, I know vlingo isn't.

but what do you mean by one touch handsfree? because, as I noted, with google voice input you just press the button on your bluetooth once and wait until it says "say command" (albeit pretty quietly on most phones), then say your voice command and wait. it's all pretty simple. Maybe I've been missing out if there is a better way to do this on android though! :-)

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Don:

1. Do you own the Shine Plus?

2. Have you upgraded it to 2.3.3?

3. Does your Voice Control still work properly after the 2.3.3 upgrade?

I have now upgraded two shine pluses (my original and a replacement one sent to me by telus). Under 2.1, the Voice Control works properly (one touch of bluetooth, "say a command" etc). After the upgrade to 2.3.3., it no longer recognizes what I am saying. It gets the commands, contacts or numbers all wrong. When I try to do an "adaption" under the voice control settings to train the app to recognize my voice, it will not let me do it after the upgrade. Both phones have the same problems after the upgrade.

Telus is sending me another replacement phone, I am going to keep it as 2.1 until they sort out 2.3.
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Mine was broken (could not change channel and would not turn off powered off the whole phone). Today it was working perfectly. I have no explanation.
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Don:

1. Do you own the Shine Plus?

2. Have you upgraded it to 2.3.3?

3. Does your Voice Control still work properly after the 2.3.3 upgrade?

I have now upgraded two shine pluses (my original and a replacement one sent to me by telus). Under 2.1, the Voice Control works properly (one touch of bluetooth, "say a command" etc). After the upgrade to 2.3.3., it no longer recognizes what I am saying. It gets the commands, contacts or numbers all wrong. When I try to do an "adaption" under the voice control settings to train the app to recognize my voice, it will not let me do it after the upgrade. Both phones have the same problems after the upgrade.

Telus is sending me another replacement phone, I am going to keep it as 2.1 until they sort out 2.3.
I contacted LG USELESS SUPPORT about the Nuance Voice Control problem and was told by the support rep that LG only manufactured the phone and were not responsible if the software that was loaded on the phone was not working properly. The reps only solution was to reset the phone. Then she had the nerve to ask me if she had been helpful in solving my problem, to which I couldn't help but laugh and reply you must be joking!!! At least to her credit she did say to me "HAVE A NICE DAY"

I guess it is now time to start complaining to Telus about getting a new phone from another manufacturer.
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Just found out Waze is incompatible according to The Market.

This is not cool.
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Just found out Waze is incompatible according to The Market.

This is not cool.
What is Waze exactly? (Nevermind, found out it's a GPS software)

Ok, I have a workaround for all of you for compatibility issues. Now I need to know if you guys have the new market or the old one? If you have the new market, Google has decided to block non standard DPI resolutions which is why the apps are flagged as incompatible with the Shine Plus. The workaround requires root privileges though. Here's what I propose:

Reinstall the old Android Market (The one like in version 2.1) and then block Market updater from updating it back to the new version. To do so you'll require the following:

Old Vending.apk (Will supply it later)
Titanium Backup to freeze the Market Updater
Root privileges to copy old Vending.apk and old Market Updater (Procedure in all things root)

This is a dirty way of circumventing the issue, but at least it'll premit you to install apps that are flagged incompatible.

There is another way, but this involves downloading the APK files and installing them manually, so a tad more complicated and a manual intervention.
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If anyone wants flickr, I downloaded it from here: Flickr_1.0.apk - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
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You can find shazam and soundhound by googling.
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Too bad this pig can't be moved to SD. More more I am getting close to rooting my phone.
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Not a compatibility issue, but a pain.

Did you notice they moved Thinkfree Office to /system now? That's a pain to move. 15 megs, all tied up out of 256 is a lot.

On the other hand, some other apps like Market, Youtube have been moved to /data and you can link those if you wish.
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Too bad this pig can't be moved to SD. More more I am getting close to rooting my phone.
I just rooted mine today. This phone was pissing me off lol.
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I just rooted mine today. This phone was pissing me off lol.
I might do mine tonight. You used method one as explained by Karendar?
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I might do mine tonight. You used method one as explained by Karendar?
Yep and it worked perfectly
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Yep and it worked perfectly
Yep, I just caved in and did it too. Took like 2 minutes.

Once again, I will be kicking myself on why I didn't do this earlier.
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Welcome to the root bandwagon. It's only a matter of time before you guys start installing Amon-RA and using custom kernels! haha
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Welcome to the root bandwagon. It's only a matter of time before you guys start installing Amon-RA and using custom kernels! haha
Link2SD is way better than App2SD.

Now I need to figure out how to get Thinkfree Office out of the /system folder. What a waste of 15Megs.
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Link2SD is way better than App2SD.

Now I need to figure out how to get Thinkfree Office out of the /system folder. What a waste of 15Megs.
No, App2SD is muuuuuch better than Google app2SD and Link2SD. Darktremor App2SD copies /data/app into a Linux Ext4 partition on your SD card... Performance is much more on par than with link2SD, less hoops to jump through and on top of that Titanium backup supports the partition fully. I think you're mistaken App2SD with the crap google delivers.

As for deleting ThinkFree Office, you can delete it by using a tool like Root Explorer, navigating to /system/app, set the folder as read/write and delete the APK related to it. As for the name, no clue what it is... I'll double check and report back. Keep in mind though that releasing space in /system is pretty useless unless you copy applications over to it. Also, Titanium Backup can uninstall system apps if you prefer doing it that way.
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No, App2SD is muuuuuch better than Google app2SD and Link2SD. Darktremor App2SD copies /data/app into a Linux Ext4 partition on your SD card... Performance is much more on par than with link2SD, less hoops to jump through and on top of that Titanium backup supports the partition fully. I think you're mistaken App2SD with the crap google delivers.

As for deleting ThinkFree Office, you can delete it by using a tool like Root Explorer, navigating to /system/app, set the folder as read/write and delete the APK related to it. As for the name, no clue what it is... I'll double check and report back. Keep in mind though that releasing space in /system is pretty useless unless you copy applications over to it. Also, Titanium Backup can uninstall system apps if you prefer doing it that way.
OK you are right. I am using Link2SD right now and FAT partition. I'm going to give that other app2SD a shot. I wonder if I can convert the partition currently in place.
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OK you are right. I am using Link2SD right now and FAT partition. I'm going to give that other app2SD a shot. I wonder if I can convert the partition currently in place.
I don't recommend converting the partition... Start fresh. Otherwise the symlink might not work. And keep in mind the only way to actually use Darktremor's app2SD is to install my custom ROM which is still in testing. If Link2SD works for you, you can keep it as is...
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I don't recommend converting the partition... Start fresh. Otherwise the symlink might not work. And keep in mind the only way to actually use Darktremor's app2SD is to install my custom ROM which is still in testing. If Link2SD works for you, you can keep it as is...
Just reading up on this... this is too hardcore for me.

Links2SD works fine for now (too bad about the dalvik-cacke... can't move that with Link2SD...it keeps coming back at reboot)
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Just noticed WhatsApp messenger says from the Market it's incompatible.
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Hey, even on my Samsung Galaxy S2 I get incompatible ROM mentions... Google just messed up bad with this new market.
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You guys noticed vertical pictures taken with the stock camera now don't get rotated automatically?
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Not a new issue, but more of an annoyance. Do you guys find the USB connection tot he phone is really loose and a slight movement of the phone will cause it to disconnect?
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if you install Titanium backup pro. you will easily be able to remove any bloatware you want to. and move user apps in to the rom that's what I did it gave me so much more space but be careful what you remove (thinkfree is safe)
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if you install Titanium backup pro. you will easily be able to remove any bloatware you want to. and move user apps in to the rom that's what I did it gave me so much more space but be careful what you remove (thinkfree is safe)
Yup - exactly what I did. Did that to LG app adviser too, and might do that to LG Home soon.
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Yup - exactly what I did. Did that to LG app adviser too, and might do that to LG Home soon.
i was thinking about doing that too I honestly think LG home is ugly and don't need it but I was concerned that it may cause problems if I removed it because it seems to be the default launcher after the phone is wiped back to stock and I'm not sure if removing it will give me a black screen if I ever have to wipe it back to stock??
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i was thinking about doing that too I honestly think LG home is ugly and don't need it but I was concerned that it may cause problems if I removed it because it seems to be the default launcher after the phone is wiped back to stock and I'm not sure if removing it will give me a black screen if I ever have to wipe it back to stock??
You're right, probably a good idea. I has it frozen right now though.
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You're right, probably a good idea. I has it frozen right now though.
also if people are having problems with the FM radio maybe just deleting it from the rom and installing a different one would be a good idea
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also if people are having problems with the FM radio maybe just deleting it from the rom and installing a different one would be a good idea
There is a solution for that somewhere. I believe a factory reset.
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There is a solution for that somewhere. I believe a factory reset.
Clearing the folder related to the FM radio app in /data/ might work if a factory reset fixes it. Can't test and give the proper folder, don't have the phone.

And yeah, if you guys want a basic launcher on the phone that takes up less space than LG Home or Launcher2 (Android launcher), I suggest going with Launcher Pro or Zeam launcher and deleting both LG home and launcher2. They take up 10 megs combined! Launcher pro is 2-3 megs and Zeam is 700k...

My next custom ROM build will have zeam in it. I also deleted thinkfree, moved Nuance to data partition instead of system and deleted LG app advisor.
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I like Go launcher over Zeam, but Zeam is so small and clean. Go has more functionality, but it is much fatter for sure.
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