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Old September 15th, 2012, 12:54 PM   #301 (permalink)
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http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/LGVS920/AVRZBK/VS920ZV7_15/VS920ZV7_15.S7_15.P58014.R5.cab

So far I've seen revisions 5, 9, 11, 13, 14, and 15. 15 has been the rev number since July and as far as I can tell, it's the file being pulled down by people doing internal testing at Verizon. We can't get to it because we don't have the software/access to get the file.
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So far I've seen revisions 5, 9, 11, 13, 14, and 15. 15 has been the rev number since July and as far as I can tell, it's the file being pulled down by people doing internal testing at Verizon. We can't get to it because we don't have the software/access to get the file.
Very nice thanks for the summary. Wish I knew when these other revs came into existence.

You realize - all they have to do is change their file naming and you wouldn't know really where they are with respect to revisions, unless you get some more inside information.

So if it hasn't changed since July, it seems one might conclude with some assurance the release is either stable, or, they've been pre-occupied with testing other phones, and awaiting Spectrum's slot (maybe based on date of phone introduction) to release the OTA.

Frustrating for sure.
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LG has a very predictable naming scheme. Verizon on the other hand change their naming method once we pulled V5 of our software weeks before the release date. I'm pretty sure I won't be finding the V7 update unless I could find the names of more update files to examine.
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I was so excited in July when I thought the update would come I was so excited! but I didn't come then I though oh it'll come next week then it didn't then I kept thinking that every week and its been 2 months since so I have lowered my standards to receive it by Christmas time....lol
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Maybe we should contact some experts at getting files on the shadier side of Web and come out with our version before VZW
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I'm thinking they are using the browser agent setting to block us from directly downloading it with Firefox or chrome.
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I'm thinking they are using the browser agent setting to block us from directly downloading it with Firefox or chrome.
I don't doubt that, but we've had someone try and packet sniff the LG update tool and spoof the browser agent with the same results. We'd need to packet sniff what ever tool is being used to download the .cab file internally. Even then, there is no guarantee of it working.

Ideally, I'd just like to find the update.zip sitting on the Verizon site as anything after that is easy to break, including forcing it to update.
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I tried changing browser user agent no go, also tried injecting packets into the LG update too. no go. Also revision 5 of the V7 update was the leak. some stuff was broken but it was stable.
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Yea, because they realized the post was an error; pretty standard response on their part to fix an error like that. If you think att or sprint are any better regarding the handling of a mistake like that, you're wrong.
There wasn't an error. I was on the thread and reading the posts, then I did some browsing and when I went back the moderator had removed a post in which a member was influencing others to file claims with the BBB and FTC in regards to Verizon and LGs failure to meet the claims they made about releasing ICS. He cited all the press releases too. It was a very well written message. Well written and threatening.

Also, I don't think any other carrier would have handled it differently, but I also never had an experience like this when I was with AT&T. So I have no comparison, and because Verizon is the one putting me through all this OTA nonsense I hate them. I bought this phone because I was told I would get ICS. I should have gone with a Nexus.
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The specs & ics made me get this phone, even though on "gingerbread".
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Yo I gotta second that I would of never naught the spec the only thing that appealed to me was the hardware but the in store reps kept telling me it would have ics in a months time definitely... This was in February
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You just switched right? I believe you have 14 days? or Maybe its 30. anyway. go with a nexus then.
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It is 14 days for returns, with a restocking fee. The Verizon rep in the door was very pushy. I did not even go to buy a phone that day. My contract at Sprint was up the day before, I was out of town on vacation, liked the size and specs of the spectrum. I used my Sprint phone to check around and saw both root and broken out for the spectrum, then searched for ICS updates and found the spectrum on the list. So I agreed to switch (already planned on switching but had considered waiting summer out to see what new phones would come out)

6 months later...

I don't care if they update it or not any more. I'm moving on as soon as something in the right price range comes along. I cannot afford to spend over $250 unsubsidized on a new phone, without getting a decreased monthly bill to compensate over the life of the contract. (And Verizon does not do that) So I will wait for my upgrade, or buy the first decent S4 pro CPU (or S5 if they are out when my upgrade comes around) phone with decent other specs, and root, and at least one Rom. Considering how long I will have to wait to meet all of those criteria, I don't doubt it will be a jelly bean phone and that laughing licorice will be out already. My upgrade date is November 2013.
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Wait 4 galaxy note 2, if it comes 2 big red.
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Note 2? Wtf ewwww that thing is huge for no reason
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Man that is a lie, I seen the demo. Well maybe 4 me its perfect that's multitasking on another level.
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Liking the note 2, but no idea if we will see it.
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It is 14 days for returns, with a restocking fee. The Verizon rep in the door was very pushy. I did not even go to buy a phone that day. My contract at Sprint was up the day before, I was out of town on vacation, liked the size and specs of the spectrum. I used my Sprint phone to check around and saw both root and broken out for the spectrum, then searched for ICS updates and found the spectrum on the list. So I agreed to switch (already planned on switching but had considered waiting summer out to see what new phones would come out)

6 months later...

I don't care if they update it or not any more. I'm moving on as soon as something in the right price range comes along. I cannot afford to spend over $250 unsubsidized on a new phone, without getting a decreased monthly bill to compensate over the life of the contract. (And Verizon does not do that) So I will wait for my upgrade, or buy the first decent S4 pro CPU (or S5 if they are out when my upgrade comes around) phone with decent other specs, and root, and at least one Rom. Considering how long I will have to wait to meet all of those criteria, I don't doubt it will be a jelly bean phone and that laughing licorice will be out already. My upgrade date is November 2013.
Similar situation here with me. When I was phone hunting for an upgrade, the LG Spectrum caught my eye. "The specs are amazing" I said to myself and they were indeed promising. I didn't know that it was also in line for an android 4.0 update until after I went and received it. Verizon is working on the final tweaks, so I don't mind waiting for another couple months if that's what it takes.

The only thing I'll complain about is not having S4 but that's it. Amazing specs and I'm loving how the phone boasts a rich DPI.
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The screen alone makes the spectrum an amazing phone. It's been out since January and it still has the best screen in the business in my opinion. The rezound has slightly higher PPI but the spec looks just as good and has better screen tech.

When I saw my spec screen next to my sister's razr, I was blown away at how bad the razr screen looked in comparison. I also have a droid charge and I hate to even look at it now because the spectrum just owns it in every way.

LG makes very nice screens for sure. I'm looking forward to seeing their 5in 1080p phones which should be dropping in the next 6 months.
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So true. When I mess around with my old DROID 2, I forget how small its screen is compared to the spectrum. A lot of people comment on how big and vibrant the spectrum screen is.
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I also wanted to add that the reason why I chose the spectrum over the HTC rezound was because the Spectrum hosts very nice viewing angles. And users like me who love to use their devices while laying down, it was the ultimate selling point for me.

Even those the rezound has a slightly higher PPI, the colors are very much washed out at minimal viewing angles. Which reminds me, someone should start a phone appreciation thread. Just to boast about the awesome device. I'm getting sick of reading through posts regarding why we don't have the update.
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So true. When I mess around with my old DROID 2, I forget how small its screen is compared to the spectrum. A lot of people comment on how big and vibrant the spectrum screen is.
She is a beut.

Some people really like the amoled displays but to me they are over saturated. The colors are not natural nor are they realistic. My charge has an amoled display and the colors are way too bright. That's another nice thing about the spectrums screen...the colors are spot on. Very natural and clean but still vivid and clear
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From the looks of the note 2, they have conquered that issue . Plus its hd that's good for the porn, and movie watching on long flights.
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[/QUOTE] long flights.[/QUOTE]
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long flights.[/QUOTE]
Long solo flights [/QUOTE]

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The specs & ics made me get this phone, even though on "gingerbread".
Same here. I just got it recently, but the whole reason I chose it over others was because it had great hardware specs and I was told it was getting ICS. I can still exchange it if the update doesn't come this week, but I'm not sure I am that picky about it. Sure I would love to have ICS, but I really like this phone more than HTC or Samsung. Maybe downgrade to a crappy free phone then use the store credit to upgrade to the new OptimusG when it releases in Oct.
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My upgrade date is November 2013.
They be releaseing Android "Marshmallow-whatever-the-f^@#" by then.
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Lol yea Google will have released android virtual or some s**t by then, which is about when I'm eligible.
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The LG Spectrum and ICS thread on the LG Forum is taking a turn for the worst w.r.t. what is going to happen to the device.

If you haven't chimed in over there, you might want to register and leave a comment or a post. Evidently LG is reading the forum... Not sure that is the case over on VZW...
http://support.lgforum.com/lg/topics/any_good_word_for_spectrum_owners_awaiting_ics
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So far there is nothing official to communicate around ICS. Last I was told was LG and Verizon were still discussing TOGETHER a path to take. As far as I know there is no definite set in stone plan and both companies are still discussing. Frustrating to wait, I know, it's frustrating for me as well as I read each of your posts. When I know something definite I will post it, but so far there is not a definite decision that has been made one way or the other.
LG is aware of this thread and all of the discussion taking place here, so thank you for your feedback on this matter. The second I know something official I will post it.
Here's the latest from the LG guy
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so i submitted a BBB complaint yesturday. a lady from verizon executive relations called me today but i was sleeping. she is suppost to call me back tomorrow. i will let you guys know what she tells me. im gonna try to get her to give me a new phone for false advertisemnt. but we shall see. i will post what happens when i talk to her
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Don't expect too much... Vz is pretty strict with giving out phones and BBB complaints aren't really that big of a deal to most companies because they require justification to affect a company's score and even then, if a company responds in kind, the file is generally closed. I speak from experience.

You might get some sweet account credit, though.
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We should all make a complaint to the BBB and JD Power, or whoever does the satifaction surveys that Verizon is always winning. Maybe then we will get their attention.
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Lol could you imagine... A team of pissed off spectrum users infiltrate the jd power survey group and destroy vz in their replies.
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Actually guys I posted a complaint via BBB just a day or two ago, and just about 30min ago I got a call from Verizon as well. The resolutions I requested were 1) release the update, or at the very least some information about it, 2) allow me to exchange my phone, or 3) refund so I can buy a phone with ICS. I guess that got their attention; the lady is going to call me back with information regarding the ICS status for the Spectrum. I'll keep y'all posted.
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How long ago did you get the spectrum?
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Actually guys I posted a complaint via BBB just a day or two ago, and just about 30min ago I got a call from Verizon as well. The resolutions I requested were 1) release the update, or at the very least some information about it, 2) allow me to exchange my phone, or 3) refund so I can buy a phone with ICS. I guess that got their attention; the lady is going to call me back with information regarding the ICS status for the Spectrum. I'll keep y'all posted.
emailed a Verizon rep last week. she told me she had no news but to keep checking in with her occasionally to see if there is any thing new. of course i sent the same email to an LG rep and got no reply.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 03:15 PM   #341 (permalink)
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This is the very reason I'm not getting the "lg intuition", I can just see it now, 6 months to a year later the intuition still will not have jelly bean.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 04:05 PM   #342 (permalink)
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@MrB: Got my Spec late April of this year, so I don't really expect to be in the first rounds of updates, but it was a refurb so who knows... I mainly posted the complaint to see what kind of response it would elicit from Verizon. Honestly I wasn't expecting what has even happened so far. I got a personalized call/response, and supposedly a higher-level rep is actually checking to see if ICS is being worked on by VZ.


For those who want the TL;DR version about where the whole thing stands right now, read on.


Unfortunately some of the response specific to my complaint might not apply to everyone, because I bought the phone from an "authorized retailer" instead of an actual Verizon store, so I was told I'd have to take up replacement/refund with that store. Still, VZ's responder seemed to try to be genuinely helpful, or at least put on the appearance. After discussing the issue about phone replacement, we talked some about when the update might come, and I got the whole "can't give explicit release date" line; however, she did promise to look into where things were with regards to the update. She checked their update server and stated that there was no update sitting there for us currently. I asked if there was some way she could determine if work was even being done to update our phone, because it seems like nothing is happening, the press releases said "by mid 2012," and now the Spec2 is coming out. She said something about having a Razr and that ICS was delayed for her too, and delays happen. I again said I would just really like to know where everything stands, so I can figure out what I want to do, and even just knowing if VZ was actively working on updating our phone or if they decided to give up on it would help. She then she could thought she could definitely get that info, and she'd get back with me as soon as she finds out what's going on.

Point being, submitting a complaint to the BBB seems gets high-level attention, and if you actually got your phone from a Verizon store, you might even be able to take this further than I have. Either way, more people submitting official complaints would presumably bump up the Spec's priority a bit. Who knows, though?
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My question was more to see how old it was. If you got the phone 6 months ago or less, they'll probably offer the refund for another.... Otherwise, they'll devise other options.

I certainly don't want a refund, but given all the flaws and issues with the phone, I don't think letting spec owners upgrade early is out of the question. I don't know any spec users that are 'happy' with the phone.... They're all making the best of it like me. I'd gladly upgrade of they offered, but I've had verizon 10 years and my wife worked for them, so I know that it's not likely. :/
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 01:53 AM   #344 (permalink)
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This looks interesting!

Huge LG ( Android 4.0 ) ICS Update for LG Optimus Black, 2x, Lucid, Lte, 3D, PRADA, vu, Nitro HD, Spectrum coming; It Will Be Much More Than Only ICS: sevencolourgossips
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My question was more to see how old it was. If you got the phone 6 months ago or less, they'll probably offer the refund for another.... Otherwise, they'll devise other options.

I certainly don't want a refund, but given all the flaws and issues with the phone, I don't think letting spec owners upgrade early is out of the question. I don't know any spec users that are 'happy' with the phone.... They're all making the best of it like me. I'd gladly upgrade of they offered, but I've had verizon 10 years and my wife worked for them, so I know that it's not likely. :/
I think I may be one of the few that truly dislike this phone.
alot of its problems can be fixed. But I've played with a HTC amaze. And it has the same ram we have. And at the time it was running sense 3.5 on gingerbread. And it ran circles around this phone. If LG would give us a good os. This phone would be amazing.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 06:59 AM   #346 (permalink)
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Wow if that's actually the case then waiting this whole time wouldn't seem as bad huh?
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 10:38 AM   #347 (permalink)
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I think I may be one of the few that truly dislike this phone.
alot of its problems can be fixed. But I've played with a HTC amaze. And it has the same ram we have. And at the time it was running sense 3.5 on gingerbread. And it ran circles around this phone. If LG would give us a good os. This phone would be amazing.
Agreed with the last part and honestly, if it didn't have the large HD screen, I'd dislike it too. If the OS were reliable, like you said, and if we could get roms to run (it shouldn't be as hard as it is...or maybe LG phones are like that?), it would be a sweet phone. I keep thinking LG will hear all the complaints and give us a solid ICS rom to shut us all up... so I have my fingers crossed.
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We are officially two steps behind. Samsung Galaxy Nexus now has Jellybean.

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Old September 22nd, 2012, 03:19 PM   #349 (permalink)
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Well, this wasn't exactly what I was looking for when I started to pick at the update server, but here it is for novelty factor.

https://pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS920_SU1toSU1Reg.bin

This is the official VZW patch to the never officially released V5 that brings it up to V6.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 07:30 PM   #350 (permalink)
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Haha wonder how long it has been sitting there...
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