Well it's been about 8 hours now since I flashed 1200 and everything seems to be going smoothly except that my phone doesn't seem to want to go into sleep mode. It continually stays on unless I manually turn it off. I checked my screen timeout settings (was set for 1 minute) and have tried a couple of different settings (15s, 30s, 2min) and no change. Any ideas why flashing from 1100 to 1200 would change this?
Okie dokie folkies, played with some diff kernels and these are the results I've gotten. I'm not gonna bother with benchmarks, as even from my review I was still getting pretty good ones.
Chevy's: Chevy's kernels have never really liked my Droid, so I didn't expect much. It'll load, but I can only get so much performance, and I can't get above 1GHz.
Jake's: Was my go to kernel for quite some time, but couldn't get past the "M" logo.
jdlfg's: Well how bout that? No lag. Ran nice and smooth, the way it should. However, it would randomly reboot very often and more than a few FCs. Very unstable but some hope, though.
slayer's v.1.6: Again, no lag. Wonderful, might be narrowing down the issue. But like jdlfg's, many FCs and frequent random reboots.
original slayher's LFY1.5: Basically just reflashed the ROM and kernel, and this time there was less lag, but it was still present. And it got worse after a full day and then some. Also, battery drained very fast, yet again, so I dunno.
I see slayher has updated kernels so I'm gonna try that out and I'll report back, but I wanted to get this out here.
Slayher's kernels are just outstanding and well written.
I think if you are having issues with all kernels you might have
toasted your CPU, and its just a matter of time.
Your experiences are not the norm and even though
your reviews are well thought out I can't give them too much
weight/substance if your phone is the catalyst, not these ROMs which run
flawlessly for many people.
I hope you get things sorted out.
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Well this is my second rom so far. I came from BB v4 Evolution theme with P3 1000 kernel. I had on going lag with this rom. I downloaded LP which helped a lot but the lag sometimes drove me crazy. I decided to try LFY and I have to say I am liking it so far. The lp home app didn't do so well with this home but awd is smooth. I notice that it works better with animations on rather than off with bb v.4. I ran quadrant and scores were in the 1600's with slayer 1100 kernel. One thing I notice is internet browsing is a tab bit slower using this rom and kernel compared to by previous one. Not sure if it is due to 3g speed or what. I have been running this for 2days now and will let it smooth out and see. I do miss the evolution theme on bb v.4[ and hoping for the watermarkd theme real soon!!
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Anyone else having issues with sound on flash content with LFY 1.5?
Whenever I view anything with flash, the sound is way off and sounds like it is dragging. For those who remember vinyl, think playing a 45 at 33 speed. Everything else sounds fine (pandora etc.)
Everything sounds fine with stock 2.2 (FRG22d) and the "official" flash plugin from the market. I have that same .apk installed on LFY 1.5 and have issues.
Is there a way to make the official flash program show up in the market with LFY 1.5?
Well it's been about 8 hours now since I flashed 1200 and everything seems to be going smoothly except that my phone doesn't seem to want to go into sleep mode. It continually stays on unless I manually turn it off. I checked my screen timeout settings (was set for 1 minute) and have tried a couple of different settings (15s, 30s, 2min) and no change. Any ideas why flashing from 1100 to 1200 would change this?
Ok after rebooting about 5 times the timeout issue has resolved itself. Now.. am I satisfied with 1200 or do I do higher...
Yes I have noticed the same thing. It was the same way for me on 1.4, I was hoping that 1.5 would fix the problem but it is still off a little bit. The rom runs so smooth though I am putting up with it. Would be nice if I could find the original file somewhere and swap it out though.
I noticed this too, which is why I found these posts.
Liquid - do you know why some sounds are 'warped'? To me Pixie Dust and Moonbeam sound more tinny, and like it's cutting out a bit. Not as smooth as it was pre-LFY. It doesn't matter which kernel I use.
I loved LFY 1.4 so much, by far the best ROM I've used. That gave me very high hopes for this one. 1.t started out being awesome, and has some of the best battery life I've see. After a day, I noticed that the market crashed a lot, everytime I used it for about 30 secs. There was also noticeable lag. I reflashed it a quite a few times hoping it was that. It didn't work even though I tried multiple themes and wiped everytime. That made me sad, but I really look forward to 1.6.
Not 100% sure why, but today i decided to swap my SetCPU over to the interactive mode and now HOLY CRAP, this is easily the fastest and smoothest my phone has gone. I've been running a few different 1.2 kernals (a couple of p3's, and now slayhers), but just going from ondemand to interactive its almost a night and day difference. Everything from waking up, to scrolling home screens, to opening and closing apps is just SUPER smooth, now if the battery life holds out, i may have a hard time wanting to change from this setup... Thanks liquid and slayher!!!
edit: decided to run quadrant while typing a few times
with SetCPU set to ondemand scores: 1455, 1637, 1576
with SetCPU set to interactive scores: 1505, 1679, 1723 (my personal best), 1677
I switch to interactive also staying around 1500. How is your battery? Mine was at 90% after being standby for 8hrs.
Did you mess with the sample rate any? At default it shows 50000, not even sure what those advanced settings are.
Installation & Setup
LFY 1.5 installed as expected. This rom possibly has the coolest boot animation I’ve ever seen! It also came with Titanium Backup installed making restoration very easy. I tried to restore all missing apps from TiBU first, maybe 35 apps. TiBU restored about half of the apps before the phone rebooted. I started restoring apps individually using TiBU, that worked fine. I then signed in to the market and it did not restore any missing apps but there were only 3 that I hadn’t already restored. I flashed the 1100LV Slayher kernel and thebowers’ black n bold theme. I also decided to use the LP dock, beautiful widgets skin and icons provided by Liquid and team. Its beautiful
Maps, browser, and camera are all working, although I do have a small Bluetooth problem. I cannot make phone calls via Bluetooth dialer. There is also an FC when going to settings->sound->volume. I’m not sure why but all other methods of controlling volume seem to work.
Speed & Performance
Stock kernel was smooth. Not blazing but certainly good as far as included kernels go. I flashed the 1100LV Slayher kernel, first day was laggy on Interactive or Performance although performance was slightly better. The second day was much better. I also disabled Compcache and felt that it improved my performance.I tried running on Interactive, I began experiencing some lag when receiving a phone call, time to answer was just over 4 rings on the calling end. The phone was idle for maybe an hour beforehand.
I then decided to try some other kernels. I’ve heard of many great experiences with Slayher’s kernels, but I think my phone doesn't get along with them. I tried almost every 1.4 – 1.6 with CM6 RC3 and couldn’t get my phone to stay on for longer than a minute (albeit, they were made for the CM nightlies so it was a long shot). I had the same issue with P3’s 2.1 kernels. The first kernel I tried was a jdlfg 1100LV. Performance was much better but I suffered random reboots and poor battery. I then flashed a P3 1100LV and it has turned out to be a great combo! Everything has been stable and fast. I’m currently running on Performance at 900MHz.
P3 1100LV
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Features
This rom seems more focused on speed and stability than features. As such, there is not much in the way of features outside of scripts.
Themes
There are some very nice themes that are available for this rom. There are at least 4 options right now with more on the way. I decided to go with thebowers’ Black N Bold theme and I am enjoying it very much!
Conclusion
It took me some time to find the right setup for my phone but once I did, everything has been very stable and fast. Set up was very smooth and there are some great themes to choose from. If you flash this rom and feel that it is laggy at all, try disabling compcache or even try a different kernel. I’ve read great reviews regarding Slayher’s kernels and I am sure they perform very well with most phones. If your phone has been finicky like mine, try a different kernel. I do feel that this rom is very good, on the verge of great, but does have some small issues that I am confident will be ironed out for 1.6. I’m excited to see what the Liquid Team puts out next!
Maps, browser, and camera are all working, although I do have a small Bluetooth problem. I cannot make phone calls via Bluetooth dialer.
that is the only problem I have(bluetooth), but haven't tried slayher kernels yet. probably try those at the end of the week when i have some time to play
I really like that theme. How do u got about setting that up? I'm using the smoke theme but no LP cuz of some of the lag I had with it.
There are instructions in the OP on how to apply each change. You may need to reflash the stock version of the rom before flashing Black N Bold, though. Just flash it on top of your current setup without wiping. Just remember to reflash whatever kernel you want to use.
So Droid thanks for the great and HONEST review looking forward to seeing more positive reviews like this one thanks again
Always willing to speak the truth my friend You guys do great work and the support you provide to users is really above and beyond. I'm definitely a follower of your work now can't wait to see what you do next.
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I feel the need to come back here and express something that makes me a bit shamefaced.
I had read a bit here and there about the Slayher kernels and the new 'interactive' Scaling method. Of course, I didn't try it - but I just read a post on here where a user said it made a huge difference.
OK, WTH, let me try it.
All of my lagginess has gone away. As in pulled the best harry Houdini I have ever seen with my own two eyes. As in "Wow, I should bottle this stuff up and market it to Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers! I'd be a gazillionaire in 2 days flat!"
Up until now I have been running the stock kernel b/c I simply have not had the time to try out a more powerful kernel - and I was getting frustrated beyond measure at the issues I had with the ROM:
Twitter app always forgets my login upon a reboot / battery pull (and I am performing battery pulls not b/c of issues, but because battery drain was rather high, see #2, and so I was physically replacing the battery with a fully charged one).
The battery life has gone to horrid on my phone - I cannot get 6 hours of a day, an this is with advanced profiles in Locale turning things off that I don't need (a first for me since I moved to FroYo).
On every boot, the phone is laggy as HE|_|_!!!!!!
OK, #3 is dead, hopefully #2 will be as well, which leaves me with #1 - and the fix for that is simple - remove the twitter app that comes with the the Smoked theme and install the default Twitter app....
So, all in all, LFY is once again an awesome ROM on my phone.
This weekend, I flashed this ROM for the third time. I was having issues with the first two installs ... Swype would NOT install, and general sluggishness all around. Yesterday, I wiped/formatted every partition and reinstalled. I flashed Slayher's 1.1 kernel. Then I reinstalled all of my apps and restored their associated data. Finally, I flashed the Black Bar theme. At that point, I was very happy. Since then, it's all gone downhill. This ROM is just ... dare I say it? ... bad. After this post, I'm going to restore 1.4 and wait for 1.6 to be released, or maybe flash Pete's new ROM upon release. Maybe it's just my DROID, I don't know. I do know that I've flashed and themed more ROMs than most, so it''s not like I don't know what I'm doing or have plenty of ROMs to compare.
Sorry LiQuiD.
Don't worry bout it. I doubt it was Liquid's fault in his ROM
more than it was your phone as the culprit.
I'm just curious how many times did you wipe
each type of partition?
Ever since rooting my Dorid last month and flashing it with LFY 1.4 I have been expriencing random 3g-to-1x and 4bar-to-1bar reception issues. Sometimes reception restores it self quickly but sometimes requires the airplane mode ON/OFF to get 3g back up. I now have the 1.5 with 1.0ghz kernel and still expriencing the same issues. Is this a ROM issue or 2.2 issue or kernel issue cannot seems to find good info on that. I would appreciate if anyone could chime in.
A lot of folks with the newest OTA updates (aka FroYo aka FRG01B) have reported trouble with WiFi and 3G - I'd first try a factory reset. It seems to be hit and miss, but a lot of people I have advised to use a factory reset have reported that problems were solved....
I am still curious if the baseband update that came with FroYo OTA updates also did some strange things - might be time to start suggesting that people start manually updating the baseband from Pete's site as well....
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Just flashed the rom. I love the layout< well what I can see of it. I dont have a settings icon or can get into my phone settings to click on to allow me to restore all my apps and settings. Any ideas?
I feel the need to come back here and express something that makes me a bit shamefaced.
I had read a bit here and there about the Slayher kernels and the new 'interactive' Scaling method. Of course, I didn't try it - but I just read a post on here where a user said it made a huge difference.
OK, WTH, let me try it.
All of my lagginess has gone away. As in pulled the best harry Houdini I have ever seen with my own two eyes. As in "Wow, I should bottle this stuff up and market it to Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers! I'd be a gazillionaire in 2 days flat!"
Up until now I have been running the stock kernel b/c I simply have not had the time to try out a more powerful kernel - and I was getting frustrated beyond measure at the issues I had with the ROM:
Twitter app always forgets my login upon a reboot / battery pull (and I am performing battery pulls not b/c of issues, but because battery drain was rather high, see #2, and so I was physically replacing the battery with a fully charged one).
The battery life has gone to horrid on my phone - I cannot get 6 hours of a day, an this is with advanced profiles in Locale turning things off that I don't need (a first for me since I moved to FroYo).
On every boot, the phone is laggy as HE|_|_!!!!!!
OK, #3 is dead, hopefully #2 will be as well, which leaves me with #1 - and the fix for that is simple - remove the twitter app that comes with the the Smoked theme and install the default Twitter app....
So, all in all, LFY is once again an awesome ROM on my phone.
Now, if I could just get my hands on LFY 1.6.....
Sadly my phone has gotten laggy again over the past few days. I've also noticed that WiFi has gone from a "man I wish that didn't use so much battery" to "Did I even have a battery in there?"
I've pretty much stopped using WiFi altogether.
The lag had seemed to go away after I removed the SetCPU widget from my phone, but then by the end of the day I couldn't launch anything without waiting a good 5 seconds for it to come up.
I'm running the Slayher 1.1 kernel at 1.1GHz, and at times the phone is blazing fast, but others it's just laggy as hell. The delayed phone calls have reappeared as well - even when my screen is active.
I'm going to make a go of removing some apps like the Weather/News that keeps launching, and a few other apps that seem to keep starting for no reason and see if that makes a difference. Right now though I'm really looking forward to 1.6.
*EDIT*
So after removing the GenieWidget, Twitter, and AmazonMP3 (kept launching on its own), I rebooted the phone and it's blindingly fast again. Wondering if it will keep up like this.
SigmunDroid...I don't think he's laughing at you...there is a back story here and some friendly disagreement about wiping partitions multiple times and whether or not it is actually better than wiping once. Haha!
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SigmunDroid...I don't think he's laughing at you...there is a back story here and some friendly disagreement about wiping partitions multiple times and whether or not it is actually better than wiping once. Haha!
LMAO ... You know, this is flash memory we're talking about. Theoretically, once a bit state has been changed to 0 or 1 it's permanent (minus the effects of extreme age without any applied power). This isn't like a HDD where heat can affect the stability of bit states (See superparamagnetic effect).
I suppose it all depends on the level of wiping it's doing. If it's only wiping the partition table, the data is still there; the OS just can't read it because it has no reference on how to convert the string of bits into something usable. If it's actually rewriting the partition with all 1's or 0's (essentially a full wipe) then there's no data there at all. In either case, you should only have to perform the wipe once. The only way you'd need to do it again would be if the utility performing the wipe is wholly inadequate and isn't doing its job.
Last edited by slider5634; August 31st, 2010 at 08:16 AM.
Reason: Spelled inadequate wrong the first time... Darn almost made it through a whole post without a spelling error :)
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Originally Posted by slider5634
LMAO ... You know, this is flash memory we're talking about. Theoretically, once a bit state has been changed to 0 or 1 it's permanent (minus the effects of extreme age without any applied power). This isn't like a HDD where heat can affect the stability of bit states (See superparamagnetic effect).
I suppose it all depends on the level of wiping it's doing. If it's only wiping the partition table, the data is still there; the OS just can't read it because it has no reference on how to convert the string of bits into something usable. If it's actually rewriting the partition with all 1's or 0's (essentially a full wipe) then there's no data there at all. In either case, you should only have to perform the wipe once. The only way you'd need to do it again would be if the utility performing the wipe is wholly inadequate and isn't doing its job.
Not to rehash this...but I'll give you my take and people can do what makes them feel good
I totally get what you are saying and it makes logical sense. I will tell you that in my experience, wiping multiple times has "appeared" to make a difference. I wipe once if upgrading from LFY 1.4 to 1.5 for example but if I were completely switching ROMs...I'd wipe each partition 2 or 3 times. Just the way I do it...not saying if it is needed or not
Just flashed the rom. I love the layout< well what I can see of it. I dont have a settings icon or can get into my phone settings to click on to allow me to restore all my apps and settings. Any ideas?
Bump, does anyone have any ideas. or am I looking in the wrong place. I have no way to get into the settings at all so I cannot click the unknown sources to install my apps. I did the download through the rom manager, everythign seems to work fine except the fact I can't get any of my apps. ALso can't always get into the market it force closes.
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Bump, does anyone have any ideas. or am I looking in the wrong place. I have no way to get into the settings at all so I cannot click the unknown sources to install my apps. I did the download through the rom manager, everythign seems to work fine except the fact I can't get any of my apps. ALso can't always get into the market it force closes.
Sorry Wags, I really am not understanding what you are talking about
Are you saying there is no settings icon in the app drawer? Can you press your menu button and then click settings? It's the same thing.
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Just another big thank you to the team. I'm running LFY 1.5, smoke theme, and Slayher's 1000 kernel. The phone was rock-solid stable at 1000, but battery life was pretty rough. I would have to plug it into the USB port to top off the charge mid-afternoon. Still with the 1000 kernel, but on-demand at 800 in setCPU and I swear the battery performs better than it did fresh out of the box from VZW.
I have to agree - while the ROM is a lot smoother now, I am getting little idiosyncrasies that I haven't in the past:
Running the 1200 MHz kernel, I know my battery life ain't gonna be grand, but with a jdflg kernel I can easily get 8-10 hours of battery life. It ain't so with this ROM and the prescribed SlayHer kernels on my phone. Then again, this is the bastard stepchild from hell phone that likes Chevy's kernels over most others, so, that is not saying a whole lot....
But, battery life is continually horrible. Since I have a pair of spares, it's not that big of an issue, but what is is that
Twitter keeps logging me out (and I so want to keep using the black themed one - but that is not a ROM issue, that is a theme issue)
On every boot it seems to forget what apps are on the SDCard, and I usually have to FC Launcher Pro and restart it in order to get access to my Apps on SD (and seein as I have ~30 of them there, it gets to where I pretty much have to do this all the time)....
Now, since my first issue is purely theme based, I am wondering if my subsequent issues are also them based - so my next step in the next coupe of days is going to see if I go back to stock LFY and see if it still has all of these issues....
Installation & Setup
LFY 1.5 installed as expected. This rom possibly has the coolest boot animation I’ve ever seen! It also came with Titanium Backup installed making restoration very easy. I tried to restore all missing apps from TiBU first, maybe 35 apps. TiBU restored about half of the apps before the phone rebooted. I started restoring apps individually using TiBU, that worked fine. I then signed in to the market and it did not restore any missing apps but there were only 3 that I hadn’t already restored. I flashed the 1100LV Slayher kernel and thebowers’ black n bold theme. I also decided to use the LP dock, beautiful widgets skin and icons provided by Liquid and team. Its beautiful
Maps, browser, and camera are all working, although I do have a small Bluetooth problem. I cannot make phone calls via Bluetooth dialer. There is also an FC when going to settings->sound->volume. I’m not sure why but all other methods of controlling volume seem to work.
Speed & Performance
Stock kernel was smooth. Not blazing but certainly good as far as included kernels go. I flashed the 1100LV Slayher kernel, first day was laggy on Interactive or Performance although performance was slightly better. The second day was much better. I also disabled Compcache and felt that it improved my performance.I tried running on Interactive, I began experiencing some lag when receiving a phone call, time to answer was just over 4 rings on the calling end. The phone was idle for maybe an hour beforehand.
I then decided to try some other kernels. I’ve heard of many great experiences with Slayher’s kernels, but I think my phone doesn't get along with them. I tried almost every 1.4 – 1.6 with CM6 RC3 and couldn’t get my phone to stay on for longer than a minute (albeit, they were made for the CM nightlies so it was a long shot). I had the same issue with P3’s 2.1 kernels. The first kernel I tried was a jdlfg 1100LV. Performance was much better but I suffered random reboots and poor battery. I then flashed a P3 1100LV and it has turned out to be a great combo! Everything has been stable and fast. I’m currently running on Performance at 900MHz.
P3 1100LV
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Quadrant: 1506
Features
This rom seems more focused on speed and stability than features. As such, there is not much in the way of features outside of scripts.
Themes
There are some very nice themes that are available for this rom. There are at least 4 options right now with more on the way. I decided to go with thebowers’ Black N Bold theme and I am enjoying it very much!
Conclusion
It took me some time to find the right setup for my phone but once I did, everything has been very stable and fast. Set up was very smooth and there are some great themes to choose from. If you flash this rom and feel that it is laggy at all, try disabling compcache or even try a different kernel. I’ve read great reviews regarding Slayher’s kernels and I am sure they perform very well with most phones. If your phone has been finicky like mine, try a different kernel. I do feel that this rom is very good, on the verge of great, but does have some small issues that I am confident will be ironed out for 1.6. I’m excited to see what the Liquid Team puts out next!
Sorry Wags, I really am not understanding what you are talking about
Are you saying there is no settings icon in the app drawer? Can you press your menu button and then click settings? It's the same thing.
Correct there is no icon in app drawer and I tried to press the menu button and then click settings and it does nothing. I cannot get into the settings at all. I dont know why. I installed it through the rom manager and it installed fine, booted up fine, I just cannot get into my settings.
Last edited by wags1992; August 31st, 2010 at 01:39 PM.
Correct there is no icon in app drawer and I tried to press the menu button and then click settings and it does nothing. I cannot get into the settings at all. I dont know why. I installed it through the rom manager and it installed fine, booted up fine, I just cannot get into my settings.
Did you try reflashing the rom? Might try downloading the rom fresh from the links in this thread and then flashing the rom again. I don't use rom manager to install roms because it doesn't have a choice to format all partitions.
Not sure what SigmunDroid's issue is.. it's a known fact that no one kernel works with every phone. I was running the Slayher 1.2 Ghz LV kernel and while it was good initially, it started to slow my phone down to a crawl. I couldn't understand why, until I read up on his explanation of CompCache. Tried to do what he suggested in turning CompCache off, but that didn't alleviate things much. Finally decided that I had given this enough time (over a week) and flashed Chevy's 1.2Ghz ULV kernel, and the super fast LFY 1.5 that I was accustomed to was back.
So dude, seriously.. stop with the finger pointing and accept that what's good for you may not be good for others.
So I have given up on compcache, after 2 days of use without rebooting my phone slows way down. So much so that I can not always unlock the screen while listining to a podcast, if I get a text while another program is going on my phone locks up and takes its sweet time to let me do anything. A reboot fixes the lag problems completely but when my phone is working fine before work and then 3 hours into my work day I dont want to have to reboot. I love slayher's kernels they work great on my phone, run cool and smooth as a baby's behind...but compcache has lost my blessing.
After this post, I'm going to restore 1.4 and wait for 1.6 to be released, or maybe flash Pete's new ROM upon release. Maybe it's just my DROID, I don't know. I do know that I've flashed and themed more ROMs than most, so it''s not like I don't know what I'm doing or have plenty of ROMs to compare.
