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Old August 26th, 2010, 02:12 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Did you read the changelog?
Many differences...
Maybe we're not on the same page.

I asked what the difference was in lfy1.5 and lfy1-1.5

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Download from the market.
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It would help to know:

what your specs are,
what your kernel is and what it is running at
what SET CPU profiles are setup and active
which scaling governor are you using
are you running autokiller and which setting are you using

what are your settings using:
ADW and/or
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(meaning what is memory set to?) Is it set up at all?
Cache type?
I'll post -- I was running LFY1.5 (installed yesterday evening through ROM Manager). Stock kernel that came with LFY1.5. No other special settings, no autokiller. Running LauncherPro. No cache set up unless the ROM set one up for me (I haven't done anything special).

Saw a post earlier about trying Slayher's 1200 kernel, so downloaded that and about to try it out.

EDIT: Installed the new kernel (first time I've done a new kernel). Something's definitely different -- definitely seems faster. I'll let it percolate for a while, but this may have done what I need.

Question - in my "about phone" it says (for kernel version) 2.6.32.9_slayher. Is that the 1200 version?

Anyway, so far, the phone seems twice as responsive!
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How do you run quadrant?
And yes, THANKS LIQUID, you are the best
Glad you got it working. Quadrant is availble in the market free....just download, and run full benchmark.
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None of my apps have been restored automatically like it did with 1.4. Will it do that eventually or do I have to go and find them all again?
Did you sign in with the same google account? It should start doing it within the first few minutes.
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Complete nOOb here. Just installed the LFY1.5 and am loving it so far and was wondering how to install one of the themes? Do I do the same thing that I did to install the ROM? I used ROM Manager for that and selected Install from SD Card.

download a theme, copy it to your sdcard, install with rom manager. DO NOT wipe.
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Did you sign in with the same google account? It should start doing it within the first few minutes.
It can take a while to download them all too (especially if you have a lot of them, mine typically takes 1/2 hr or so.). Also, sometimes have to reboot after signing in to get it started. You can go into the market and look at downloads and it will show you if any current download activity is happening.
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Hey first i wanna say thanks a ton to developers and all the hard work you guys do to make a better droid world for us simple rooters!

Second, I was wondering... is this build based off of frg22d? the one that came out on mydroidworld like a day ago? just curious!

Oh and just one more question... when yall set your setcpu settings what option do you use?
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Oh and just one more question... when yall set your setcpu settings what option do you use?
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On Slayher's new kernels, I've been using interactive with good success. On others, I typically use ondemand.
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I like to run on interactive.
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Im back to this ROM again. Seems good so far.

How big is your wish list for the next version? I'm really missing the lower screen brightness adjustment from some other roms. Is this on it ? Could it be?
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I saw several people say they changed their SetCPU settings to the highest max and made the minimum 1000MHz and set it on Interactive. I have done the same and the performance is now fantastic! Like butter baby. Hopefully the battery won't drain too fast. Will know soon.

Also, for folks running Quadrant score tests, make sure to run it several times. My best score is usually on the third run.

And speaking of wish list, I'd love to be able to change all the notification text colors! Just throwin it out there if Santa Liquid is listening
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@Yankee, are you still running the same phone, or have you gotten yours replaced. When you wrote up your review on LFY 1.4, it really sounded like you have a hardware issue with your phone with some of the problems you had described back then. It also sounds like you are no longer having those same issues with 1.5. (Which to me is a telling improvement of the ROM, but that's still up dependent on my h/w fault assessment)

Just curious, your reviews are interesting to read.
Nope, same Droid. I'm not sure I don't know what caused 1.4 to get into a short boot loop everytime, but that has thankfully not happened with this build. That was something I only noticed with 1.4 and no other ROM. I don't know what would cause it, might have been my Droid, but I dunno. I also don't know how I could explain to Verizon that they should give me a new Droid because I go into a short boot loop everytime I try to flash a new kernel or theme. lol
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I saw several people say they changed their SetCPU settings to the highest max and made the minimum 1000MHz and set it on Interactive. I have done the same and the performance is now fantastic! Like butter baby. Hopefully the battery won't drain too fast. Will know soon.
I tried this as well, and my battery didn't like it. I keep it at minimum 300, max 1200 and it works just fine on interactive.
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I also don't know how I could explain to Verizon that they should give me a new Droid because I go into a short boot loop everytime I try to flash a new kernel or theme. lol
hahaha...let me know if you figure that one out!
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Yeah, but I'm not seeing any of this lag so I'm not sure what's "holding it back" for you... I ran out of time last night, but soon I plan on throwing up a video of my phone "in action". I can swipe screens, open apps, rotate to landscape, rotate back to portrait, etc. with the biggest lag being about a 1-2 second delay after changing orientation and trying to resume swiping screens...video will be worth a thousand words LOL
Something I haven't tried was flashing slayher's v. 1.6 kernels. Sure, it might break compcache, but perhaps my Droid just doesn't like the new kernels as much. We haven't talked about diff kernels for diff Droids in a while. I'll give that a go, and if it changes anything, I'll update my review.

Also, I've noticed two more snafus. I wasn't able to turn on USB storage until I did it from clockwork. I don't know why. And trying to adjust the volume from the sound settings would FC settings altogether.
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hahaha...let me know if you figure that one out!
That's the great thing about insurance. You call, tell them the Droid screens cracked, get sent a new one, then hit the old one with a hammer before returning.

Or least that's what I've been told
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Something I haven't tried was flashing slayher's v. 1.6 kernels. Sure, it might break compcache, but perhaps my Droid just doesn't like the new kernels as much. We haven't talked about diff kernels for diff Droids in a while. I'll give that a go, and if it changes anything, I'll update my review.
You should post your kernel experiments here too. I'm interested to know how other kernels play in the Liquid.
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I've seen some of the lag that YankeeDudeL mentioned.

There are times when I'll do something like open the app drawer and start to scroll and it just stops responding for 2 or 3 seconds and then suddenly catch up.

The delay in waking to answer a call has only happened to me once. After that it's been pretty smooth.

I've also noticed some "stickiness" when typing on the soft keyboard. The text will trail me by 4 or 5 letters, often with one letter expanded in the foreground of the keyboard like I had just hit it, even though it's way behind what I hit recently.

I need to do some more methodical testing with it, but since I'm now 3 days from a major software launch of my own, my time for doing so is likely zero until Labor Day Weekend.

Still, even with the stickiness the ROM is not unpleasant to use. As YankeeDudeL mentioned, when it doesn't stick it just FLIES. I'm wondering if it could be a relationship with the home apps. I'm using LauncherPro+ or premium or whatever the paid-for version is.
Very well could be. I'm also using LauncherPro Plus () with the People and Calender widgets up. But I've been using that for a few weeks, and have reviewed a few ROMs, including each previous LFY build, and this hasn't been an issue up until this point.

I've for the most part keep my homescreens in the exact same setup for months, only changing when I purchased LauncherPro Plus, so I think the comparisons have been fair for someone as untrained as myself.
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Did you sign in with the same google account? It should start doing it within the first few minutes.
Yeah same account. Still hasn't done it. Guess I'll just have to find em as I need em and DL
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About the delay - i have experiance the same with in calls. I have had my phone idle for about 2 hrs this morning at work before i tried to call it from the desk phone. It rang 3-4 times before the answer screen loaded up. I then let it sit for 5 more mins and tried again, this time it took 1.5 rings. I do underclock my phone to 250 when screen is off to save batt life. This possibly making the phone recover and load slower when a call is incoming? Ill be doing more tests as today passes.
I've never had the issue and mine is set to 125mhz for the screen off.

I went into the build.prop file, edited the text for call delay
from 1000 to 500. It made a difference on my phone.
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Maybe we're not on the same page.

I asked what the difference was in lfy1.5 and lfy1-1.5

I think I misread your post
Were you asking between the difference between the two
V1.5's (the first and the one after) with the different MD5?

I'm not sure, but I did read that the slayher kernels were reworked
so that the script for compcache would have to be manually inserted
via a text file (Boddi's has it written down at CM forum) for maximum compatibility.
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Yeah same account. Still hasn't done it. Guess I'll just have to find em as I need em and DL
You could download Titanium backup, then once its set up it will backup all your apps. When u switch roms, youu can reload from Tb or have it autosync them ( but I think autosync is only on the paid version ).
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I think I misread your post
Were you asking between the difference between the two
V1.5's (the first and the one after) with the different MD5?

I'm not sure, but I did read that the slayher kernels were reworked
so that the script for compcache would have to be manually inserted
via a text file (Boddi's has it written down at CM forum) for maximum compatibility.
I believe with this rom if you use one of the Slayher kernels made for this rom compcache is automatically enabled. With the Slayher 1.6 kernels on the CM forum it looks like a script would be required.
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does the launcher pro dock skin also include icons? I'm looking for some nice text icons rather than the actual icon images, just like in the screenshot
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I'm assuming I need the Kernel that are on the left of the arrow? Not the 1.5 Kernels correct?
Could someone possibly answer this? Looking to run a 1k on my phone, want to make sure I download the right one.

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i flashed the LFY rom and got that running. do i need to download the kernel and flash the kernel as well? same thing for themes, download and flash?
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On the first page ( liquid slayher kernals) u can get them
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I hear what your saying, but the ROM wasn't "really" changed. LFY was added to ROM Manager and the "change" to the ROM was just a text only change which was enough to make the MD5 checksums return different values when trying to verify the files

The people who have seen their temperature "problems" fixed...is a coincidence or perhaps a result of re-flashing the ROM.

im not sure about that either. i flashed the first rom with inaccurate check sums twice trying to fix my issues with heat and inaccurate battery temp readings with the same end results, phone staying at 50 deg c with light use and improper battery temp readings. then i flashed the correct version (as did others) and immediately i could tell my phone was cooler. tocay i noticed improved battery life vs my results yesteday. off charge for ten hours, a couple phone calls and 12 text messages, six hours of pandora over wifi and im sitting pretty on 60 percent. yesterday my phone died before making it home with no phone calls!
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i flashed the LFY rom and got that running. do i need to download the kernel and flash the kernel as well? same thing for themes, download and flash?
Stock Rom comes with a 800 kernel built in. You can flash higher ones and the same for theme. Just download and flash
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I am also using LauncherPro, and getting horrible lags

I may go back to BB4

This ain't working too well right now. I will use ADW for a little bit see if it helps though

i had a lotta lag with launcherpro. i switched to adw and i am not seeing any lag now. funny adw works better on this rom for me but launcher pro works better than adw on most other roms.
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On the first page ( liquid slayher kernals) u can get them
Issue isn't where they are, is which one to grab. There are two different versions on kernels, and I've been reading that some kernels break something and the others don't.

So I'm asking which ones I can grab.
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I tried this as well, and my battery didn't like it. I keep it at minimum 300, max 1200 and it works just fine on interactive.
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I've never had the issue and mine is set to 125mhz for the screen off.

I went into the build.prop file, edited the text for call delay
from 1000 to 500. It made a difference on my phone.
How are you guys setting your speeds at those 125 and 300 for minimum? Set CPU is only showing me the option for 250 at the low end and 400 the next lowest.

FWIW, I switched my scaling to interactive, and the phone is responding better. So far, none of the random lags. On 1.4, Interactive seemed to use more battery than On Demand on my phone for some reason. Will see if there is a difference with 1.5.

And if you are reading this thread trying to decide whether to go with LFY or not, don't let the lag stuff stop you! It wasn't happening very often for me. Most of the time, this ROM is SWEET!
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Issue isn't where they are, is which one to grab. There are two different versions on kernels, and I've been reading that some kernels break something and the others don't.

So I'm asking which ones I can grab.
my bad. I'm not quite sure, but I assume the ones loaded on the 25th r the revised ones. Myself, I got the 1200 from before and haven't had problems, but that's just me. If you make a backup b before loading, if something goes wrong you can revert back.
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Issue isn't where they are, is which one to grab. There are two different versions on kernels, and I've been reading that some kernels break something and the others don't.

So I'm asking which ones I can grab.
Ive got the 1.5 1200 that is near the bottom, I didn't realize others had come out. I'm tempted to try the 1300 but I can't imagine that would be stable.
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i had a lotta lag with launcherpro. i switched to adw and i am not seeing any lag now. funny adw works better on this rom for me but launcher pro works better than adw on most other roms.
I was afraid of that. I really don't want to switch to ADW. Just like Launcher Pro better. Mostly because I like my dock in LP. Not a fan of the ADW dock.
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Ive got the 1.5 1200 that is near the bottom, I didn't realize others had come out. I'm tempted to try the 1300 but I can't imagine that would be stable.
I know one way to find out! LOL
Now I just have to get off work so I can try...hehe
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wondering if any one was going to work on the answer button? so there is no more lag, with the screen not coming up

love the rom besides
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Ive got the 1.5 1200 that is near the bottom, I didn't realize others had come out. I'm tempted to try the 1300 but I can't imagine that would be stable.
Downloading the 1300 right now
I may need a new battery
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How are you guys setting your speeds at those 125 and 300 for minimum? Set CPU is only showing me the option for 250 at the low end and 400 the next lowest.
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the kernal you are using determines the speeds you can adjust your phone to by its set slots. slots are set speeds your phone can run at. your 250 is the lowest slot 400 is next. if you want to have a lower first slot you should download another kernal.
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the kernal you are using determines the speeds you can adjust your phone to by its set slots. slots are set speeds your phone can run at. your 250 is the lowest slot 400 is next. if you want to have a lower first slot you should download another kernal.
ok. I guess I just assumed they were getting those on Slayher's LFY kernels, but apparently not then?
I'm running the 1100 Slayher kernel for 1.5.
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ok. I guess I just assumed they were getting those on Slayher's LFY kernels, but apparently not then?
I'm running the 1100 Slayher kernel for 1.5.

perhaps so i think slayher has kernals with mixed slots. they may be running a different version.
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Well the test of the 1300 was a disaster. Crashed everything.
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Well the test of the 1300 was a disaster. Crashed everything.
I read on droid forums that 1300 does not play well with FroYo, I think I will test the 1250 when I get off work, from reading on the CM forums it look like it was a compcache fix in the new kernels.
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Try the 1000 slayher you won't be disappointed
Thanks Liquid for this. I think it brings up an interesting point. I took slayher's advice and I've been running through all the kernels throughout the day, and to be really honest, I literally can't tell the difference between a 1200 and the 1000, except that my battery lasts longer on 1000. I'm using SetCPU with min 250, max 1000000, on interactive and I'm not having any lag problems and no noticeable difference in performance. My question for the experts, then, is this: What is the relationship between Quadrant scores and "real world" performance? At what point is a 1200 kernel going to be noticeably better performing? It just seems that at the micro level (i.e. Quadrant scores) you can get higher numbers, but I just evidently don't push my phone hard enough to make it matter...so for me, it's the 1000 and I'm straight. Thanks slayher...
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I went into the build.prop file, edited the text for call delay
from 1000 to 500. It made a difference on my phone.

How do you do this?
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What is the difference between the LFY 1000 kernal and the LFY v1.5 1000 kernal on slayher D/L page?
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I went into the build.prop file, edited the text for call delay
from 1000 to 500. It made a difference on my phone.
I just changed my build.prop to 3 , definitely had a positive effect. My phone rings almost right away. But the funny thing was that it was originally at 500 already . Not sure why.

I think I'm gonna change the wifi scan interval too. Hopefully it will save some battery.
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How do you do this?
Using root explorer, go to system - hold build.prop and select "open in text editor". Scroll down to ring delay and shorten it. I set mine at 3 its working grest. Afterward, back out. It should automatically make a backup of your original build.prop as well.

Be careful in there and don't change anything else unless you know what you're doing.
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Ok guys I want to clear up some confusion. I worked with LiQuID to get LFY and the such on Rom Manager. One thing that was missing from the LFY-1.5 was a single flag in the build.prop that allows Rom Manager to detect if there is an update available for your ROM.
I had him add that line to the build.prop, and with out thinking about the MD5s etc, I told him to go ahead and upload the new. That way we would be fully compatible with RM.
I will take the blame for that little snafu with the MD5 being wrong and the Different files/same names.

Also there are new kernels listed in the link to more kernels. Once again me hitting the ground running. I made several new kernels, with higher speeds, and to keep build time/modules consistent, I cleaned my build directory and started new, from the stock 800 up to the new 1300 and 1300HV. If you are running the older kernel, Great, if you downloaded a new kernel Great! Either way you will be fine, all the features are the same, and they are fully compatible with LFY.

I hope that everyone is running fast and smooth with the kernel/rom.

As for heat issues, this is the coolest kernel I have ever used, and others are reporting the same thing, many others. If you seem to be running hot, try reinstalling Temp Monitor, or reflashing the kernel.

Kernels can be very finicky. For instance I have never had luck with P3Droids kernels. They are great I am sure but MY phone hated them. JDLFGs were a 50-50 chance, and bekits were always great. I have heard others report the opposite. Sometimes you just have to find the "right"one for you and thats great when you do. I will tell you at the moment, I am pretty sure my kernel is the only one to run the interactive governor, although others may be coming.

As for the kernel speed/settings/other stuff:
You need SETCPU,
I suggest the interactive governor with the max slider @max and the min slider @min.

If you are experiencing call delay, try uping the min slider in Setcpu. Some phones have issues coming out of sleep at low speeds.

If you feel battery drain is an issue with interactive, I have all the other governors built in, feel free to change, but you will notice a performance difference (if you are like me anyway)

Lastly, thank you everyone for the great response to the rom! Keep on flashing, and I will try to poke my head in as often as I can. ( I have a wife and 5 kids)
You can hit me up on twitter (@layherdaddy) or here, and I wll try to get to you.

Thank you for the support and the feedback!
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