Rant Thread - What really grinds your gears? - Page 61

funkylogik · February 20th, 2013, 06:55 PM

Lmao

Maybe unreasonable to "expect" but if google wana keep us using android devices.... and they do update thier unlocked nexus' very well.
As for manufacturers.. if they want customer loyalty then its in thier interest to update an unlocked phone during atleast a 2year life span i think (if the hardware can handle it)

As for carriers........ meh! Lol

SUroot · February 21st, 2013, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by funkylogik

Lmao

As for manufacturers.. if they want customer loyalty then its in thier interest to update an unlocked phone during atleast a 2year life span i think (if the hardware can handle it)

I completely disagree.

My point is that it is not in their best interest to give you free updates forever. To develop an update for a phone costs $$$. At some point, to continue to develop new updates for a phone will cost more than the money they make from selling that model. They need to keep their profit and enough aside to put into development across hardware and software of future models, or they will lose their edge.

I think I have set all this out in the android fragmentation link in my signature.

EarlyMon · February 21st, 2013, 04:52 AM

At one point, Google sat down with the Open Handset Alliance members and called for 18 month update support.

At some point the cord needs to be cut to properly support hardware without being chained to legacies.

Still, the 2.5 year old Evo just recently got a security update - that's excellent customer service, imo.

PS - remember, here in the US, 2 year contracts with heavy lock-in on subsidized phones is the norm, unlike Europe.

pbf98 · February 21st, 2013, 09:44 AM

Jealousy, if you're gonna use it to motivate your self its one thing, but if you're just going to use it to get mad and have a reason to be upset, just drop it. I admit I get jealous at times, but I don't show it, I don't get mad when someone doesn't comply to my jealous demands.. I don't even make demands based off my jealousy.

Dngrsone · February 21st, 2013, 09:57 AM

Hey, pbf98... um... you something... on your.. face?

Just thought you might want to know.

Right now I am irritated with blog software that doesn't understand that 'private' means don't freakin' publish it.

Lucky for me, my friends know me and the private post wasn't all that revelatory...

funkylogik · February 21st, 2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SUroot

I completely disagree.

My point is that it is not in their best interest to give you free updates forever. To develop an update for a phone costs $$$. At some point, to continue to develop new updates for a phone will cost more than the money they make from selling that model. They need to keep their profit and enough aside to put into development across hardware and software of future models, or they will lose their edge.

I think I have set all this out in the android fragmentation link in my signature.

Nah i defo think a phone should have a life where its supported officialy for free. Surely thats included in the original price of the phone?

Besides.. i dont see any OEM offering payed for updates for thier devices so whats the alternative? Buy a new phone? Me n my wife are on disability benefits.. were poor

funkylogik · February 21st, 2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pbf98

Jealousy, if you're gonna use it to motivate your self its one thing, but if you're just going to use it to get mad and have a reason to be upset, just drop it. I admit I get jealous at times, but I don't show it, I don't get mad when someone doesn't comply to my jealous demands.. I don't even make demands based off my jealousy.

I used to be a destructively jealous person in relationships.
Glad i grew out of that.
if someones gona cheat then either youre doin something wrong or its not meant to be

zuben el genub · February 21st, 2013, 06:03 PM

Carriers can also delay updates.

I get a kick out of those who post here wanting to know when the "next big thing" will get here. All the posts about getting ICS when it was released. If it's a good security update, I'm all for it. If it will let me run my phone and tablet in the (legitimate) way I desire, I'm all for it. Just to get it because it's new and I'm bored?
Fuggedaboutit.

If stuff is released too soon, there are always problems. I remember trying to deal with special software on Vista when it first came out, and the software makers hadn't got up to speed before they released more software.

I'd rather see updates released slower, making sure that most bugs are out. This will upset the "Igottahavit" but it would probably give the majority the best experience.

funkylogik · February 21st, 2013, 06:31 PM

Lol. what baffles me is how samsung handled the UK roll out of JB.. most of the carriers had rolled it out with thier customisation and bloat BEFORE sammy released it in UK for unbranded international s3

SUroot · February 22nd, 2013, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by funkylogik

Nah i defo think a phone should have a life where its supported officialy for free. Surely thats included in the original price of the phone?

Besides.. i dont see any OEM offering payed for updates for thier devices so whats the alternative? Buy a new phone? Me n my wife are on disability benefits.. were poor

If by life you mean until it dies, then either you're not understanding how business works or you appreciate that you will have to pay more for the phone in the first place

You own a restaurant. It costs you £4 to sell a meal. It costs you £1.50 to sell a drink. You sell the meal for £6 and the drink for £2. £2.50 profit

To get the punters in you offer meal and unlimited drink refils for £10. So if someone has a meal (£4 to sell) and 2 drinks (£1.50 to sell) you've made £3 profit.

If someone has 3 drinks, you've made £1.50 profit.

Ok so you own the restaurant. You need. Profit. If someone has 4 drinks you make no profit. If someone has 5 drinks, you lose money.

See the problem? The meal deal is the smartphone and the updates are the drink. Updates cost the oem to produce. There comes a point where the next update will mean there is no profit. This means they may aswell not even have made the phone.

You can't have it both ways.

funkylogik · February 22nd, 2013, 02:00 AM

I do totaly know where youre coming from mate but what would you suggest as spokesman for Sammy or Htc?...

funkylogik · February 22nd, 2013, 02:10 AM

Id rather pay more for the meal in the first place tbh n i think thats what we do anyway.
All phones have a life-span where theyre still being sold (usualy 12-24 months) and it should be supported with free updates during this period imo unless the phone is physicly incapable

SUroot · February 22nd, 2013, 06:23 AM

Nope we get a meal deal. If you paid for the meal only, you wouldn't be getting any updates at all.

But no, I would not want free updates forever because they would lose money and never bring out a new phone. By wanting free updates forever I am actually stifling the industry and ruining it for myself and everyone else.

Security patches for 2 years, yes. Major updates for 2 years - no.

zuben el genub · February 22nd, 2013, 10:12 AM

Maybe because it isn't a smartphone, our Nokia 6085 bought as a refurb is still going.
Since I have TMO value plan, they don't care. That phone must be 7 or 8 years old by now. The Vulcan loves it.

What I don't like about the updates:

You should be asked if you want it. I know you don't have to install it, but it sits there available. I have a friend who automatically downloads everything Sprint sends. Then complains if an app she uses has changed slightly. I remember reading the TMO forums. Everyone whining about "when do we get Gingerbread" TMO updated the phones, explained everything in the forums, but the majority of the complaints were that the phone didn't "work right" any more. You should be able to check "no update" somewhere like you can change other apps to manual only.

All of the benefits and goodies are always talked up. You never see the downside or any of the other inclusions of stuff you might not want or need. This makes some of the users drool, expecting that the new release will solve any problems that they may have or include a function that is touted as needed. Separate the utilities from the goodies. I'd want security updates, but I don't particularly want a new social media or any media app. Let those who want it check it off in a list somewhere.

Sometimes new is not an improvement. New for the sake of new is not. New to increase efficiency, security, ease of use for most, is. The majority are not rooters, tweakers, overclockers.

A lot of tablet users wanted to go back to Honeycomb when ICS first was available. Stuff didn't work right for months judging by the posts here and in other forums.

5tevie · February 23rd, 2013, 12:51 PM

The thing that really grinds my gears is/are "No Win - No Fee" Lawyer shysters.
Especially when you couple them together with 3 Asian men who plotted to destroy as many lives as possible using home made bombs in the UK.
What grinds them even more is finding out that these 3 men have been living for years on the benefit system that our country gave them.
Ungrateful bar stewards.

5tevie · February 23rd, 2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boyo1991

I hate using my pc.. anyone else agree??

I totally agree. Using your PC sucks big time. For a start, I have to wait until you leave the room and then I have to keep watching the door so you don't catch me when you come back.
Signed .... Your cat.

funkylogik · February 24th, 2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SUroot

Nope we get a meal deal. If you paid for the meal only, you wouldn't be getting any updates at all.

But no, I would not want free updates forever because they would lose money and never bring out a new phone. By wanting free updates forever I am actually stifling the industry and ruining it for myself and everyone else.

Security patches for 2 years, yes. Major updates for 2 years - no.

Agrees to disagree lol

zuben el genub · February 24th, 2013, 07:55 AM

Won't happen. If someone brings out a phone that has different cases available, a different style, mostly cosmetic or cutesy stuff, the marketers will try to convince the people that this is a "must have." The current phone might have better hardware, but something new will be a draw and actual specs ignored.

Most here are probably in the minority. You do care how the phone works, are interested in "new" as it applies to a bug or security - not how easy it is to connect to Facebook.

sherri · February 24th, 2013, 07:58 AM

OK....this makes me mad.

I am small. 5'0". Relatively thin, but in good shape. My 20 year old daughter is 4'11". Tiny. My 15 year old daughter is 5'1" and also small. More muscular, like me. Now the issue...

Why is it they can borrow my clothes and state they fit them, but when I ask to borrow something from them (not low cut jeans or shirts with cutouts....mainly dresses for formal parties...) the say "it isn't going to fit you....you will stretch it out"....

If my size 2 petite dress fits them, why the hell won't their size 2 petite dress fit ME????

Dngrsone · February 24th, 2013, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sherri

Why is it they can borrow my clothes and state they fit them, but when I ask to borrow something from them (not low cut jeans or shirts with cutouts....mainly dresses for formal parties...) the say "it isn't going to fit you....you will stretch it out"....

If my size 2 petite dress fits them, why the hell won't their size 2 petite dress fit ME????

Because you are the mom.

But then... You are the mom, just take the clothes and wear them.

Likely, once you've 'contaminated' them with your oldness, they will be yours forever.

NightHawk877 · February 24th, 2013, 03:49 PM

Found a great apartment and was about to sign the lease when in fine print it stated that musical instruments of any kind are not allowed. I hate fine print. I play my trumpet between noon and 6 daily. How would that be a bother? People are usually working during those hours. I refused to sign off because I enjoy playing my trumpet.

funkylogik · February 24th, 2013, 04:21 PM

Yeah we're not allowed pets but we have 3 snakes, a cat and a huge snail

Rules are there to be broken.
Blow your trumpet mate

zuben el genub · February 24th, 2013, 06:11 PM

HOAs here tried to tell you how many pets you could have. We were only supposed to have 2, but our cats seem to come in groups of 3. We wound up with at least 10 ferrets at one time, plus some cockatiels. We no longer have an HOA. No one wanted the job.

zuben el genub · February 24th, 2013, 06:17 PM

Jerk drivers that are only concerned about themselves. We have a drainage problem with the gutter by the street. Street crown is too high and we are on the north side. So we all take turns trying to keep the darn gutter clear to drain snow melt. We got 8 inches of glop last week, neighbor was taking his turn clearing the gutter and some old jerk comes driving up the street and just splatters the neighbor with slush! He had the whole road and could have moved over.

Petrah · February 24th, 2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NightHawk877

I play my trumpet between noon and 6 daily. How would that be a bother?

Since sleep is a requirement to function in day to day life, I think those who work the graveyard and swing shifts would be severely bothered. There's more people who work those shifts and sleep during the day than you might think.

Not to mention the children not of school age who are laying down for their naps in the afternoon. Nothing worse than a severely annoyed parent trying to get a toddler to sleep when a neighbor is playing an instrument, stereo, working on a car and blasting the stereo, etc. etc. etc and keeping the baby awake.

When you live in a community environment, you have to respect other people. That's just the way it is.

SUroot · February 25th, 2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by funkylogik

...and a huge snail

Pics (in context please)

kymberlin · February 25th, 2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dngrsone

Because you are the mom.

But then... You are the mom, just take the clothes and wear them.

Likely, once you've 'contaminated' them with your oldness, they will be yours forever.

And for Christ sake, Please don't tell them what you actually did in their clothes !

Being a mom, I see it all to often. My rule.... If your girlfriend wears it in public, so can I !!!!

Normally stops all "fabulousness" since I can wear it better than their girlfriends ! lol

sherri · February 25th, 2013, 06:44 PM

Me too, Kimberlyn!

funkylogik · February 25th, 2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SUroot

Pics (in context please)

Ill put up a pic of "Sheldon" tomorrow mate

(Giant African Landsnail)

funkylogik · February 25th, 2013, 07:22 PM

......wait... found this on the phone 1361841735221.jpg
(Think thats a UK size 6 trainer)

jgraves12 · February 25th, 2013, 09:18 PM

Gotta say I really hate it when I get hungry late at night and there's no food in the house that I can make without turning on a stove <.>

EarlyMon · February 25th, 2013, 09:20 PM

Escargot doesn't take long.

wyndslash · February 25th, 2013, 09:24 PM

When I get hungry at night I sleep it off haha

funkylogik · February 25th, 2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlyMon

Escargot doesn't take long.

Lmao

jgraves12 · February 25th, 2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wyndslash

When I get hungry at night I sleep it off haha

Wish I had that ability haha but if anyone were to open a 24 hour pizza delivery joint around where I live they would make a fortune off me..

downthemachine · February 25th, 2013, 10:24 PM

When a train is blocking the only road home. Grrrrrr
Isn't it a safety issue to have a stuck train blocking the only road into town?

Dngrsone · February 25th, 2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by downthemachine

When a train is blocking the only road home. Grrrrrr
Isn't it a safety issue to have a stuck train blocking the only road into town?

Only in the event of a zombie apocalypse...

zuben el genub · February 26th, 2013, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kymberlin

And for Christ sake, Please don't tell them what you actually did in their clothes !

Being a mom, I see it all to often. My rule.... If your girlfriend wears it in public, so can I !!!!

Normally stops all "fabulousness" since I can wear it better than their
girlfriends ! lol

If someone leaves anything at our house and it fits - it's MINE.

Torn Prince · February 26th, 2013, 07:25 AM

Nothing more then my ex girlfriend.

jgraves12 · February 26th, 2013, 08:43 AM

People that label Green Day as "the best punk band ever" that never even heard of Black Flag or Operation Ivy.

MT Rotor · February 26th, 2013, 05:31 PM

Machine head>green day

wyndslash · February 26th, 2013, 05:42 PM

I dream of chicken

Seanette · February 26th, 2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sherri

OK....this makes me mad.

I am small. 5'0". Relatively thin, but in good shape. My 20 year old daughter is 4'11". Tiny. My 15 year old daughter is 5'1" and also small. More muscular, like me. Now the issue...

Why is it they can borrow my clothes and state they fit them, but when I ask to borrow something from them (not low cut jeans or shirts with cutouts....mainly dresses for formal parties...) the say "it isn't going to fit you....you will stretch it out"....

If my size 2 petite dress fits them, why the hell won't their size 2 petite dress fit ME????

Time to stop letting them borrow your clothes and for them to learn that relationships involve giving, not just taking.

huh · February 27th, 2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanette

Time to stop letting them borrow your clothes and for them to learn that relationships involve giving, not just taking.

you should just look them straight in the eye and say...I paid for it...
..it's my size... a size two......and I look damn good in it....and you're lucky I gave you my genes.....um.....You're Welcome?

.

EarlyMon · February 27th, 2013, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by huh

you should just look them straight in the eye and say...I paid for it...
..it's my size... a size two......and I look damn good in it....and you're lucky I gave you my genes.....um.....You're Welcome?

.

Just don't have a monster zit between your eyes.

They never take you srsly giving the big speech between the eyes when that happens.

This is your safety tip today from Mr. Safety Tip Guy!

ryancmatchett · February 28th, 2013, 09:36 AM

Today's rant...
Being lied to by 2 Samsung customer service supervisors, being told that no manager talks on the phone, and after 8 phone calls, multiple emails, chats and questions... Being told sorry, no one worldwide can add their CC# to our Apps Cash, sorry, you won't be able to use the apps on your TV and blue ray player because the website can't be fixed.
Really?

Dngrsone · February 28th, 2013, 10:10 AM

"lol" is neither punctuation nor an actual word, let alone the ending word for every other sentence. Stop using it as such!

funkylogik · March 1st, 2013, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dngrsone

"lol" is neither punctuation nor an actual word, let alone the ending word for every other sentence. Stop using it as such!

I find myself using "LOL" in my actual thoughts and sometimes its at the tip of my tongue ready to be used in a conversation!
Luckily my mouth hasnt "learned" to use the "word" "LOL" lol

...vocaly, though, i have a problem with the word "MAN" that i contracted in the early 90s.. sometimes i say "man" at the end of every sentence man..

pbf98 · March 1st, 2013, 02:23 PM

If someone is complaining to me about money problems and wants advice from me, don't get mad at me when I tell you my opinion on it.

Someone I know:
Works at a place that is closing in May
The place has a total of 4 employees
the person writing the schedule is now giving the majority of the hours from the person I know and giving them to someone else so they do not quit.
Leaving the person I know with 45 minutes a week, making just above minimum wage (7.45 an hour) that is a check of 11.17 biweekly.
This person is in college and wants to keep this job because it is super easy and she can do her homework if needed.
When the place closes she will get severance pay so I told that she should keep working her 45 minutes a week so she can still get it, but find another source of income because 11.17 (before taxes) every other week does not cut it when she has to drive 33 miles to school and 33 home. The school she attends has jobs that she qualifies for and pays 8.50 an hour, not only is she allowed to also work on homework there, they provide flexible hours to help with busy class schedules.

I told her she should look into getting a job at the school, and she got mad at me.. to me I don't see why one wouldn't, especially since she qualifies for the office jobs that continue over the summer where she would then have the option to work 40 hour weeks I just don't see the bad in my advice.

On the topic of lol, I say it in my conversations daily whether it be saying L O L, or pronouncing it "lawl", "lul", or "luls" Sure its not an actual word or punctuation, but it is an acronym. Do i think some people over use it, yes. Some times when some one types it to me I ask them if they really are laughing. When I say it I actually am laughing

huh · March 1st, 2013, 11:45 PM

k well..I'm really sorry that I was..am...kind of hyper and a little more obnoxious than usual..
I think I'm like a toddler who is overtired but doesnt act sleepy and in fact behaves the opposite all hyper moded until the epic crash...

I'm just...
ugh..

It,s a friend of mine is not doing well after a long hard horrrific battle with MS..and he is too young.. to be...

ugh..

he is in hospice...I said goodbye to him yesterday..
and..

I just....felt I may have been extra...obnoxiously...me ish and...stuff
I don't mean to be..I guess it's how I deal sometimes...and

and..

just...
I'm sorry