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 Originally Posted by XplosiV It seems to me that the answer is somewhat split between the simple folk and the math geeks. Ask anyone in the street and they will probably solve the question using left to right. where as ask anyone with some kind of higher education in math, and they will probably use the math parenthesis. Theres not a lot of point 'simplifying' the problem, the problem 'as is' done by a mathematician, using the common laws of math, will simply answer it as 1. Who can tell me the highest number, that when written in the queens English, consists of only three words? (IE 110 = one hundred and ten, 4 words)
False. Any math professor whom I have asked this question has always said the answer is 9. So I'm not sure where you got that info from...

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 Originally Posted by ssick92 False. Any math professor whom I have asked this question has always said the answer is 9. So I'm not sure where you got that info from...
Any math professor should have told you that it is a malformed expression that can not be answered until it is expressed in a correct format.

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 Originally Posted by XplosiV snip Who can tell me the highest number, that when written in the queens English, consists of only three words? (IE 110 = one hundred and ten, 4 words)
I have a qualm with this. 110 is properly written and spoken as one hundred ten; the word and only ever comes into play when one is dealing with bits less than one.

However, I can think of an infinitely large number which is written in three words that follows the template nine hundred T, where T may be replaced by something like million, billion, trillion, googol, googolplex, etc. but is quite a bit larger than that.

I also thought of something like "infinity plus one", but I don't much care for that one, because I'm sure if I thought about it long enough I could come up with a larger flavour of infinity in three words.

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 Originally Posted by Ichapp I have a qualm with this. 110 is properly written and spoken as one hundred ten; the word and only ever comes into play when one is dealing with bits less than one. However, I can think of an infinitely large number which is written in three words that follows the template nine hundred T, where T may be replaced by something like million, billion, trillion, googol, googolplex, etc. but is quite a bit larger than that. I also thought of something like "infinity plus one", but I don't much care for that one, because I'm sure if I thought about it long enough I could come up with a larger flavour of infinity in three words.
My bad, lol, its the lowest number to be said in three words, not the highest.

Also, i don't know anyone who says "one hundred ten", its always said as one hundred and ten, even if the 'and' is pronounced as 'n' or 'an'. Besides, that was purely an example specifically to rule out the exact point you made. The aim of the question is to find the lowest number that, as written, in the queens English, is written in three words. Just a bit of fun.

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 Originally Posted by RiverOfIce Any math professor should have told you that it is a malformed expression that can not be answered until it is expressed in a correct format.
But without additional information, they say it is interpreted to be solved left to right using order of operations.

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 Originally Posted by XplosiV My bad, lol, its the lowest number to be said in three words, not the highest. Also, i don't know anyone who says "one hundred ten", its always said as one hundred and ten, even if the 'and' is pronounced as 'n' or 'an'. Besides, that was purely an example specifically to rule out the exact point you made. The aim of the question is to find the lowest number that, as written, in the queens English, is written in three words. Just a bit of fun.
One over infinity?

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 Originally Posted by XplosiV My bad, lol, its the lowest number to be said in three words, not the highest. Also, i don't know anyone who says "one hundred ten", its always said as one hundred and ten, even if the 'and' is pronounced as 'n' or 'an'. Besides, that was purely an example specifically to rule out the exact point you made. The aim of the question is to find the lowest number that, as written, in the queens English, is written in three words. Just a bit of fun.
negative ninety [million, billion, trillion, googolplex, etc] (unless the negative sign doesn't count)

one one [millionth, billionth, trillionth, googleplexth, etc]
(one one hundredth = 1/100)

one hundred thousandths [millionths, billionths, etc] (if duplicating the one [above] is not allowed)

zero point zero (unless the decimal is not allowed)

one hundred thousand (if every word has to represent a number)

twenty one pairs [dozen, score, fortnight] (if words that represent a number count)

this puzzle isn't very good without some more boundaries.
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 Originally Posted by Ichapp I have a qualm with this. 110 is properly written and spoken as one hundred ten; the word and only ever comes into play when one is dealing with bits less than one. However, I can think of an infinitely large number which is written in three words that follows the template nine hundred T, where T may be replaced by something like million, billion, trillion, googol, googolplex, etc. but is quite a bit larger than that. I also thought of something like "infinity plus one", but I don't much care for that one, because I'm sure if I thought about it long enough I could come up with a larger flavour of infinity in three words.
I never cared for the idea that if you add "one" to infinity, you somehow trump infinity or make it one digit longer. Infinity is never ending; the infinite set tends to include the "plus one' because it is infinite.

I always listen to Dr. Math. Consider this:

Infinity a Concept, Not a Number

1/infinity = 0

In words, if 1 chocolate bar is divided among an infinite number of people, no one gets anything! Where did the chocolate bar go? Doesn't it imply that 1/infinity = infinitesimally small?

Hello Kaiser,

I think you have the basic idea down, but you may have also fallen prey to a common misconception that I'd like to clear up.

Where did you get the idea that 1/infinity = 0?

The very sentence "1/infinity = 0" has no meaning. Why? Because "infinity" is a concept, NOT a number. It is a concept that means "limitlessness." As such, it cannot be used with any mathematical operators. The symbols of +, -, x, and / are arithmetic operators, and we can only use them for numbers.

To write 1/infinity and mean "1 divided by infinity" doesn't make any sense. 1 cannot be divided by a concept. It can only be divided by a number. Similarly, "infinity + 1" or "2 times infinity" are also meaningless.

As another example, what does this mean: "1 / justice = 5"?

That's right! It is as meaningless as "1 / infinity = 0" because justice is a concept, not a number.

In math, when you hear people say things like "1 over infinity is zero" what they are usually referring to is something called a limit. They are just using a kind of shorthand, however. They do NOT mean that 1 can actually be divided by infinity. Instead, they mean that, if you divide 1 by successively higher numbers, the result becomes closer and closer to 0. If I divide 1 by a very large number, like a billion, then I get one-billionth, which is a VERY small number, but it isn't 0. Since there is no largest number, I can always divide 1 by a bigger number. But that will just produce an even smaller number, right? It will NEVER produce 0, no matter how high I go. But since the answer to the division is getting closer to and closer to 0, we say that "the limit of the expression is zero." But we have still not divided anything by infinity, since that isn't a number.

To go back to your chocolate bar, what if you divide it among every person living on earth? Each person would get roughly 1 six-billionth of a chocolate bar. That's a very, very small amount, and you'd probably need a microscope to see your piece, but it wouldn't be zero, right? Ah, but you asked about dividing it up amongst an infinite number of people. Well, we can't. Why? Because infinity isn't a number, so you can't show me an infinite number of people. If you try to, I will just add one more person, and then we'd realize that the number you thought was "infinity" actually wasn't.

So, to finish up, you are perfectly correct in saying that "1/infinity = infinitesimally small." But only if you realize that you REALLY mean "1 divided by a REALLY big number is a REALLY small number."

Thanks for writing to Dr. Math. Don't hesitate to write again if you need further help with this or another question.

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typical mathematician response.

technical schmectical. ok fine then:

lim(1/x) x -> infinity = 0

of course that no longer satisfies the three-word rule

"limit of one over x where x approaches infinity equals zero"

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 Originally Posted by novox77 negative ninety [million, billion, trillion, googolplex, etc] (unless the negative sign doesn't count) one one [millionth, billionth, trillionth, googleplexth, etc] (one one hundredth = 1/100) one hundred thousandths [millionths, billionths, etc] (if duplicating the one [above] is not allowed) zero point zero (unless the decimal is not allowed) one hundred thousand (if every word has to represent a number) twenty one pairs [dozen, score, fortnight] (if words that represent a number count) this puzzle isn't very good without some more boundaries.
ok, it has to be a positive integer ... its not as hard or complex as you make out. Just start at one and keep counting till you get the answer.

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 Originally Posted by XplosiV ok, it has to be a positive integer ... its not as hard or complex as you make out. Just start at one and keep counting till you get the answer.
'twenty one hundred' (2100), like twenty one hundred hours, military speak.

of course, technically there should be a dash between twenty and one. Though I see it written both ways. Not sure how the Queen would write it.

without dashes, seems like 'one hundred thousand' is the shortest.

BTW, the formal way to write a number does NOT include the word "and."

101 is formally written as 'one hundred one.' This should be the correct answer.

But like I said before, you really have to define the boundaries better.

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Have we moved on to another problem Bob's post makes me want to go to sleep and I saw neither 9 and 1...so we must have moved on, lol.
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1
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111221

Right???

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 Originally Posted by kobi 1 11 21 1211 111221 Right???
I am not sure. I did steal the thread and I asked the gathered few what number comes next and more importantly, WHY

1,1,1,2,1,3,1

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Lol, ok it seems no one really gets it, but nvm, and twenty one hundred is a no, as in queens english that would be 'two thousand one hundred' and as is typical, also in queens english, you would type the 'and' otherwise its not queens english is it?

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 Originally Posted by nyydynasty google says so ... i'm voting "9" Google
Wrong!!! Google is not saying 6÷2(1+2)=9 what Google says is (6÷2)(1+2)=9 which is changing the equation to a different one by the face when putting those brackets around 6÷2.

If that were the case it would be obviously correct but as that's not the case cos in the original equation those brackets don't exist, the correct answer is 1 cos if parenthesis are always mandatory then multipliers or dividers of any parenthesis must go first after resolving the parenthesis so there is no other way to read the equation than:

Six divided by two times the result of one plus two

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Don't compilers have a specific way to evaluate expressions? Just to avoid problems down the road?

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 Originally Posted by XplosiV Lol, ok it seems no one really gets it, but nvm, and twenty one hundred is a no, as in queens english that would be 'two thousand one hundred' and as is typical, also in queens english, you would type the 'and' otherwise its not queens english is it?
I think it's time you showed some proof about all this queen's english nonsense

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 Originally Posted by novox77 I think it's time you showed some proof about all this queen's english nonsense
Received Pronunciation (RP), also called the Queen's (or King's) English,[1] Oxford English,[2] or BBC English, is the accent of Standard English in England, with a relationship to regional accents similar to the relationship in other European languages between their standard varieties and their regional forms.[3] RP is used to a much lesser extent in Scotland, Wales and Ireland.[citation needed] Although there is nothing intrinsic about RP that marks it as superior to any other variety, sociolinguistic factors have given Received Pronunciation particular prestige in England and Wales[dubious – discuss], especially since the early to mid 20th century.[4] However, since the 1960s, a greater permissiveness towards allowing regional English varieties has taken hold in education[5] and the media in the United Kingdom; in some contexts Received Pronunciation is now perceived negatively.[6]

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16÷12(11+121)=?

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 Originally Posted by Roze Have we moved on to another problem Bob's post makes me want to go to sleep and I saw neither 9 and 1...so we must have moved on, lol.
If you evaluate the equation properly, this is what you get:

6 ÷ 2 `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!

The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
He went galumphing back.

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

(2+1) = Lewis Carol

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 Originally Posted by Bob Maxey Received Pronunciation (RP), also called the Queen's (or King's) English,[1] Oxford English,[2] or BBC English, is the accent of Standard English in England, with a relationship to regional accents similar to the relationship in other European languages between their standard varieties and their regional forms.[3] RP is used to a much lesser extent in Scotland, Wales and Ireland.[citation needed] Although there is nothing intrinsic about RP that marks it as superior to any other variety, sociolinguistic factors have given Received Pronunciation particular prestige in England and Wales[dubious – discuss], especially since the early to mid 20th century.[4] However, since the 1960s, a greater permissiveness towards allowing regional English varieties has taken hold in education[5] and the media in the United Kingdom; in some contexts Received Pronunciation is now perceived negatively.[6] Bob (Wikipedia)

You see this XplosiV? queen's english is simply pronunciation. has nothing to do with writing, using "and" and all the other stuff you assert. If anyone speaking with this accent says "2100" in military speak, it qualifies as queen's english.

So... "written in queen's english" makes no sense as it deals with speech. Maybe you meant standard British English... at which point, I'd demand a source that says that 101 is NOT formally written as "one hundred one."

Some more food for thought: the year 1776. Seventeen Seventy Six. That's how it's said. Three numbers. Ask a Brit how they would write that. It would either be '1776' or 'seventeen seventy six.' So why would "twenty one hundred' be invalid? No one says "the year one thousand seven hundred seventy six." And notice the lack of "and" in that fully qualified number.

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 Originally Posted by novox77 You see this XplosiV? queen's english is simply pronunciation. has nothing to do with writing, using "and" and all the other stuff you assert. If anyone speaking with this accent says "2100" in military speak, it qualifies as queen's english. So... "written in queen's english" makes no sense as it deals with speech. Maybe you meant standard British English... at which point, I'd demand a source that says that 101 is NOT formally written as "one hundred one." Some more food for thought: the year 1776. Seventeen Seventy Six. That's how it's said. Three numbers. Ask a Brit how they would write that. It would either be '1776' or 'seventeen seventy six.' So why would "twenty one hundred' be invalid? No one says "the year one thousand seven hundred seventy six." And notice the lack of "and" in that fully qualified number.

First: dude its a brainteaser, not a debate, either you know the answer or you don't, clearly you don't.

Second: i AM a brit, and we DO say "one thousand and one" as stated even if the "and" is pronounced as "an". in all my life the only people i have heard say one hundred one are the ones using the American bast***ised English, you know the one, with all the wrong spellings So "written in queens English" is to assert that it should be written in British standard English.

Alternative forms
one hundred and one (British preferred format)

Third: years are a little different, as 1776 could also be read to an audience as "the year seventeen hundered and seventy six".

The brain teaser, as I elaborated like you asked, is to name the lowest integer that is said in three words. "one hundred thousand" qualifies but there is a lower number.

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you never addressed 'twenty one thousand' and the dash issue. is 21 two words? Or one word because of a mandatory dash?

and how about street numbers, where rarely do you say "hundred," like

123 Main St
"one twenty three"

I'm just saying that it's quite hard to come up with a single answer unless you are much more specific about what's allowed, etc. Through these "debates" you have been narrowing it down, but we're not quite there yet.

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 Originally Posted by Streptococcus Wrong!!! Google is not saying 6÷2(1+2)=9 what Google says is (6÷2)(1+2)=9 which is changing the equation to a different one by the face when putting those brackets around 6÷2. If that were the case it would be obviously correct but as that's not the case cos in the original equation those brackets don't exist, the correct answer is 1 cos if parenthesis are always mandatory then multipliers or dividers of any parenthesis must go first after resolving the parenthesis so there is no other way to read the equation than: Six divided by two times the result of one plus two
My first point: lrn 2 fullstop. That is an awful mess of run-on sentence that I really do not want to try and untangle.

However, despite your best attempts to keep us from properly understanding your post, I think I got what you're trying to say and I don't much like it. You're making up a rule which says that one must expand out from parentheses after resolving what's buried inside. This is not so. In essence, once you've evaluated past all the parentheses (assuming you've got no exponents to deal with) all you've got left are multiplication, division, addition and subtraction. As I've already dealt with the proper order for resolving these, I won't here.

tl;dr You made up a rule that didn't exist to suit your needs.

The bold section is exactly the way to pronounce the original problem, and doesn't help to resolve anything. It's still a matter of where the three gets multiplied: numerator or denominator. Again, see one of my previous posts (or novox's post which I quoted).

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It was a good thread. A lot of responders came out and while many failed miserably, a good number of us tried to get our math nerd on. Props.

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 Originally Posted by Bob Maxey Don't compilers have a specific way to evaluate expressions? Just to avoid problems down the road?
There are always gray areas, due to optimizations.

When FORTRAN 77 was ratified, the VAX would eval this left to right and get 9 - the Cray would do all mults first, and get one.

Best practices are always be unambiguous and use parens - because even though that all got cleared up years ago for most, it can always re-surface.

BTW - This thread is for fun. If the personal jabs don't simmer down, it's going to head for the lock, right quick. Thank you for being friendly and polite to each other - and this is just a general warning, not singling anyone out, don't think that's needed.
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Quick follow-up I want to share in response to a PM I got where someone felt singled out on this:

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 Originally Posted by EarlyMon OK, I got as far as "seemed to be aimed at me" and I'm stopping reading to respond. Nothing could be further from the truth. I tell the truth and shoot it square. If I'd meant you, I'd have sent you a PM and deleted your post. Here's the deal I've found - threads often develop a vibe. This one has turned into a kinda sour vibe. Your fault, his fault, even my fault - in the end it doesn't matter when we all get together in a thread and an outsider (I've not been there in a while) comes in and sees sour. Therefore, mine was a friendly nudge to just move things back to center. For everyone. Nothing personal - not punishing - just moderating, as in, how about a little moderation in all things (more middle of the road, iow)? And applying that to no one in particular as I'd honestly posted and meant. OK - when time permits, I'll read the rest of your message - meanwhile - hope this helps, please let me know!

Cool? Cool.

May 15th, 2011, 12:03 AM   #230 (permalink)
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I think this Forum thread may be close to discovering the portal to Narnia....
Or Cold Fusion... either one is good.

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 Originally Posted by EarlyMon There are always gray areas, due to optimizations. When FORTRAN 77 was ratified, the VAX would eval this left to right and get 9 - the Cray would do all mults first, and get one. Best practices are always be unambiguous and use parens - because even though that all got cleared up years ago for most, it can always re-surface. BTW - This thread is for fun. If the personal jabs don't simmer down, it's going to head for the lock, right quick. Thank you for being friendly and polite to each other - and this is just a general warning, not singling anyone out, don't think that's needed.
See . . . no clear answers. We are all either correct or wrong or wrong or correct. Perhaps it is a draw because either way we evaluate it we get a correct answer, just not the real correct answer, but correct no matter how much your Curta balks. Simple math. Or not so simple math. Perhaps it really does not matter.

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 Originally Posted by XplosiV American bast***ised English, you know the one, with all the wrong spellings So "written in queens English" is to assert that it should be written in British standard English.
B@st@rdised you've said?

[not my words]Varieties of English

From around 1600, the English colonization of North America resulted in the creation of a distinct American variety of English. Some English pronunciations and words "froze" when they reached America. In some ways, American English is more like the English of Shakespeare than modern British English is. Some expressions that the British call "Americanisms" are in fact original British expressions that were preserved in the colonies while lost for a time in Britain (for example trash for rubbish, loan as a verb instead of lend, and fall for autumn; another example, frame-up, was re-imported into Britain through Hollywood gangster movies). Spanish also had an influence on American English (and subsequently British English), with words like canyon, ranch, stampede and vigilante being examples of Spanish words that entered English through the settlement of the American West. French words (through Louisiana) and West African words (through the slave trade) also influenced American English (and so, to an extent, British English).
Today, American English is particularly influential, due to the USA's dominance of cinema, television, popular music, trade and technology (including the Internet). But there are many other varieties of English around the world, including for example Australian English, New Zealand English, Canadian English, South African English, Indian English and Caribbean English.
[/not my words]

History of the English Language

[My own opinion] Only because something is/was used by the bigger amount of people doesn't mean that it's/was actually better.
Think Microsoft Windows, IPhone, VHS...

Just saying that English is not the best Language out there and the only reason that it's such a popular choice today is because of the American technology, TV, music and movies influence, so don't act so protective and self righteous, your English is as good as theirs.[/My own opinion]

P.S. Now for the math questions:

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May 16th, 2011, 02:46 PM   #233 (permalink)
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 Originally Posted by Bob Maxey See . . . no clear answers. We are all either correct or wrong or wrong or correct. Perhaps it is a draw because either way we evaluate it we get a correct answer, just not the real correct answer, but correct no matter how much your Curta balks. Simple math. Or not so simple math. Perhaps it really does not matter.
What amazes me is even after the explanations that say it should clearly be 9, there were more votes and its still almost even...the gap of votes for 1 closed some.

I'm gonna have to remember this problem and throw it out to some ppl that would appreciate it, get a kick out of it.

May 16th, 2011, 02:54 PM   #234 (permalink)
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EarlyMon the Pokemon dude!!

Howzit buddy!

What is FORTRAN 77????

Is it a programming language?

Does it use stuff like functions (Javascript for method) and other stuff?

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One of the earlier programming languages, it stands for FORmula TRANSlation.

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 Originally Posted by EarlyMon One of the earlier programming languages, it stands for FORmula TRANSlation.
Awesome!!!

Thank you!!

Hmm I wonder how it works hey?

Is it hard to work with?

Hmm i must check this out man thanx dude!

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yeah.. that is old..

i learned on Pascal language

May 16th, 2011, 03:11 PM   #238 (permalink)
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 Originally Posted by dan330 yeah.. that is old.. i learned on Pascal language
Whoa!!

Hey whats this Pascal thing dan the man dude?

Hmm I must check that out as well

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dont even bother... pascal is so history.

HTML is better for you

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 Originally Posted by dan330 dont even bother... pascal is so history. HTML is better for you
Ja!

I dig HTML dude

But it is slightly lame lol

I did check that Pascal thingy, yes it looks a little old

But good to know general knowledge a little bit though!

Thanx dan the man who toured Japan in his smahed up van

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6÷2(1+2)

to simplify the expression follow the order of operations

1. evaluate the expression inside the grouping symbols
2. evaluate powers
3. multiply and/or divide in order from left to right
3. add and/or subtract in order from left to right

=6÷2(3)

next operation is division

= 3 ( 3)

next operation is multiplication

=9

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6÷2(1+2)

just want to double check my math and see if I come up with the same answer as last time. So heres the list of what I did.

1) follow order of operations PEMDAS as I was taught in school (Parenthesis Exponents Multiplication/division Addition/subtraction)
2) 6/2(1+2)=6/2(3)
3) 6/2(3) or 6/2x3 this is where it gets tricky because you either end up with 9 or 1 depending on whether you do multi first or division first, but pemdas has the two equal as far as order goes.

5) start second guessing yourself and try to remember if there were some other formulas to use

6) post again on forums so vihzel gets more views like he asked

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this thread's been dormant for a while!
I think we'll all agree that Wolfram Alpha has the answer.
62(1+2) - Wolfram|Alpha
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November 7th, 2011, 11:46 AM   #246 (permalink)
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I think we were all taught different orders in school. I was taught BIDMAS or BODMAS

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it's nine!!!!!

6÷2(1+2)

(6÷2)(1+2)

(3)(3)

(9)
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9. While i haven't read this entire thread, I think most people who get 1 are doing their multiplication wrong. I was always tough that when given two sets of operations given the same PEMDAS priority, you go left to right. So 6/2(3) should be (6/2)3, not 6/(2*3)

At least, that's what I have always been instructed. And it seems like on the first page someone said google got the same answer, and google knows whats what.

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A.)Check the logic .(Both appear to be true)
B.)Check who is winning (No clear winner )
C.)Check for options like 1,0,,.....(1 is present.....)
D.)eenie minnie mini mo (I say the answer is 5.5 North East under permissble errors )

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I shall still go with my previous answer and say 9 as per order of operation.

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