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Old October 29th, 2013, 02:23 AM   #31901 (permalink)
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Good morning all - happy Tuesday, woot.

Got my Hackintosh drive all cloned for my attempt to get Mavericks running tonight. If all goes as planned I am going to throw some more RAM into it and try my extra video card and use it as an iOS Development machine, which I am excited to learn.

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Hey everyone! Having a good Monday? Mine started off great, my wife's new Yorkie left a present on the bed sometime in the night. Anyone have a recipe for bbq'd rat dog?
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Its Monday for me at work but I think most people are on Tuesday.
I think you might get a more flavorful meal if you smoke the rat dog.
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Haha, so it is. I guess the crappy start just made me assume it had to be a Monday.
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Hey...our Yorkie does that too...bring him on over and we'll have a double roasting of rat dog. I've got a recipe I've been dying to use for years!
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A psychology study broken in that important journal, USA Today.

Another one of her studies reported that "Ogling by Men Subtracts from Women's Math Scores."

Science - you keep using that word but I don't think it means what you think it does.
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Second huge announcement for Google in G+ Hangouts, second time in a row they've had an excuse.

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^I'm excited about that as well Stig. My wife an I use hangouts almost exclusively between the two of us. Have even gotten my brother on Hangouts instead of texts and he's an iOS user (in fact, he was visiting this weekend talking about wanting to get rid of his iPhone 5 and switch to Android...I like to think I had a hand in that, haha). Now that SMS is integrated, I see no use for the stock messaging app.
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So although I have ZERO complaints with the Note 3 (easily the best phone I've ever owned), I couldn't say the same about the Note 10.1.

At first, it was amazing. Great note taking with the S-Pen. Practically like pen and paper. But I started noticing a few days ago that there were some lag issues.

When pressing the home button, it would take a good 2 or 3 seconds to wake up. PDF performance was getting laggier. Exiting out of apps to the homescreen was taking longer and longer. I did a factory reset, installed only 1 or 2 apps, and it was fine for a day, and then the same thing started happening! I was going to exchange it at Best Buy today, but I just didn’t have a good feeling after playing with their in-store model. So I just ended up returning it.

On Friday, I will join my wife and other iSheep to buy the iPad Air. PDF annotation is a MUST in my field, and Android just isn’t cutting it yet. I’m really disappointed that Samsung made this huge spec-beast and it still lags. None of the iPads I’ve ever owned (by Friday I will have owned all 5 at some point; actually 6 if you count the iPad mini 1) had a lag issue. And the best PDF annotation app on the Google Play Store gets blown out by even a mid-level one on the App Store (iAnnotate, Notability; GoodNotes is the best one).

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I did root and freeze a bunch of unnecessary apps with Titanium Pro. No dice.

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The S-Pen almost made it worth it. But during meetings all weekend it kept lagging and freezing, while everyone else was happily gliding along on their maxiPads.

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I've heard mostly great things about that tablet as well, other than that it takes forever to charge.
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Morning BB! No crap to clean up this morning. Unfortunately instead I'm not feeling the greatest. Nothing serious, just feel a little lethargic.

So anyone who uses the new tapatalk, is there an issue with refreshing when looking at the unread or participated lists? It won't show new posts at the top. It's really annoying.
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Good morning all - happy hump day!

It looks like we might be seeing KK news today. So for those who don't know, when Google started doing these staged rollouts, the date on the "app updated" changes in the Play Store even if the app update isn't available to you yet. Someone on Reddit found that 16 core Google apps show an updated date of October 29th, so hoping this is in preparation for an update.

Also Hangouts date changed to the 29th so hopefully someone can grab that APK today.

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My Nexus tablet is fantastic. Both of them actually, the 2012 and 2013. No lag at all. I've heard great things about the Nexus 10 as well... Just saying.
My N7 lags like crazy. Thought it was the ROMs I ran but I flashed back to stock and it's gotten worse with time. I hardly use it now. Won't hold a charge long either. Dissappointing to hear about the Note I agree with Han on the lack of lag on iProducts... it's virtually non-existant after over a year on my wife's iPad. Not sure how they accomplish it but Google needs to take note. Less RAM and still virtually no lag.
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My N7 lags like crazy. Thought it was the ROMs I ran but I flashed back to stock and it's gotten worse with time. I hardly use it now. Won't hold a charge long either. Dissappointing to hear about the Note I agree with Han on the lack of lag on iProducts... it's virtually non-existant after over a year on my wife's iPad. Not sure how they accomplish it but Google needs to take note. Less RAM and still virtually no lag.
Weird. Sorry to hear that. I have to imagine it's a hardware thing. Perhaps it's the price we pay for a cheaper product. I guess I'm just lucky with mine.
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Weird. Sorry to hear that. I have to imagine it's a hardware thing. Perhaps it's the price we pay for a cheaper product. I guess I'm just lucky with mine.
It is, many devices running a Tegra 3 chipset has the same problem. Something about it, combined with the cheap SSD they used creates the horrible lag. It's even worse on the TF700. Unless the S4 Pro set has the same issue, it shouldn't start slowing down overtime due to the hardware that quickly.
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You're probably right about that jhawk...cheap RAM and SSD storage will bog a system down pretty quick...could be they used a cheap/low quality memory and storage supplier for the N7 and the quality varies greatly from one to the next. I do know mine and my wife's Moto X are still as blazing fast as they were they day we bought them.

However, I have noticed something very annoying on my X and doesn't seem to happen on my wife's. About once a week, the phone will completely stop recognizing the SIM card and the only fix is a reboot. Starting to suspect a hardware malfunction and I may call up Moto and see if they can exchange it for me.
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Weird. Sorry to hear that. I have to imagine it's a hardware thing. Perhaps it's the price we pay for a cheaper product. I guess I'm just lucky with mine.
I hear it's also a dalvik issue. For some reason, it's a bottleneck on Android devices, and it's why ROM'ers are always told to wipe it when flashing anything new. I guess iProducts don't have the same problem.

I don't know. I hate to lose all of the customization of Android on my tablet, but for what I need, iPad just does the job 100 times better.

I can't be sitting in a meeting trying to annotate a PDF based on the points being brought up around me, and have it freeze and lag. It's just not acceptable.

The only bad thing is that now I have to deal with all the "I told you so"'s from my wife and friends.
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However, I have noticed something very annoying on my X and doesn't seem to happen on my wife's. About once a week, the phone will completely stop recognizing the SIM card and the only fix is a reboot. Starting to suspect a hardware malfunction and I may call up Moto and see if they can exchange it for me.
My DNA has the exact same issue. Although numerous updates and new sim card seems to have relieved me from the majority of the occurrences.
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My DNA has the exact same issue. Although numerous updates and new sim card seems to have relieved me from the majority of the occurrences.
Hmm... Well, I called Motorola and they said to clear cache and get a new SIM. If it happens after that they'll replace. Probably stop by AT&T this afternoon and get a new SIM.
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I hear it's also a dalvik issue. For some reason, it's a bottleneck on Android devices, and it's why ROM'ers are always told to wipe it when flashing anything new. I guess iProducts don't have the same problem.
The Dalvik cache is a lookup table that lays down the association rules between apps.

The Dalvik is the virtual machine that all apps run within.

You wipe the Dalvik cache so that things don't get connected improperly - example I've actually seen is the microphone on the keyboard launching an app not related to voice recognition.

The main cache, not the Dalvik, along with misbehaving apps are the cause of lag creeping in over time.

A factory data reset clears all of it.

Slightly surprised that didn't work for you, so it indicates that if the lag returned after you reinstalled apps, then you have some app(s) misbehaving. If the lag was there after the factory data reset and it's wasn't there when new, then that indicates that the hardware has degraded.

The Dalvik isn't a bottleneck, it's just a major component of the operating system.
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The Dalvik cache is a lookup table that lays down the association rules between apps.

The Dalvik is the virtual machine that all apps run within.

You wipe the Dalvik cache so that things don't get connected improperly - example I've actually seen is the microphone on the keyboard launching an app not related to voice recognition.

The main cache, not the Dalvik, along with misbehaving apps are the cause of lag creeping in over time.

A factory data reset clears all of it.

Slightly surprised that didn't work for you, so it indicates that if the lag returned after you reinstalled apps, then you have some app(s) misbehaving. If the lag was there after the factory data reset and it's wasn't there when new, then that indicates that the hardware has degraded.

The Dalvik isn't a bottleneck, it's just a major component of the operating system.
This explanation popped up on Reddit a few weeks back, which is quite interesting.

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It's going through each of your apps and hot spotting portions of them to native code. These files reside in the Dalvik cache. If you want to verify the process, delete the contents of your Dalvik cache and reboot. The O/S will rebuild the cache each and every time.
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