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Old November 13th, 2013, 08:59 AM   #32401 (permalink)
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Old November 13th, 2013, 09:00 AM   #32402 (permalink)
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This is my first morning with glorious T-Mobile. I was getting 4 Mbps at work on Verizon.

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Trying to get into recovery on my Nexus 7 and I can get to the screen where it shows my options that I can cycle through with the volume button (Start, Power off, Recovery, Restart Bootloader) but when I select Recovery and hit the power button to confirm, it reboots and gets stuck at the Google screen with the unlocked icon at the bottom :S
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WOW that's off-contract price.

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Motorola Moto G official: specs, features, price and availability - Android Authority

I think I saw something about a tweet from Verizon saying for prepaid service.
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Think I may have figured out my problem on my N7. I'm running JWR66Y build which released a few months ago. Funny thing is, I definitely don't remember flashing that update. SuperSU is installed as a system app (can't uninstall, only disable) but after running a root check, I have no root. It appears after I flashed a rooted version of 4.3 via TWRP, the JWR66Y build became available through system update and it updated, maybe I accepted and forgot, but I definitely didn't manually flash it.

So, apparently I received an OTA that broke root and recovery. Blast. I know what I'll be doing this evening. Seems like the simplest way to get back to complete stock is Wug's, right?
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I used to have the energy to do it all manually and wouldn't trust a toolkit.... *sigh* Too lazy now.
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I don't believe the G2 bootloader has been unlocked, but its been bypassed by the Loki tool.

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I don't believe the G2 bootloader has been unlocked, but its been bypassed by the Loki tool.

Loki bootloader bypass, TWRP recovery come to AT&T, Verizon LG G2
I used to have the Verizon variant and can confirm that it works. A quick review of the xda threads shows that there are a ton of ROMs for it, too.

But I guess I'm really wondering is if I can lock everything back up in order to trade it in on the JUMP program down the road. . .

I'm starting to think that the Note 3 might be a tad too big. . . and although I use the Pen on the Note 10.1 constantly, I haven't really used it that much on the Note 3.
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But I guess I'm really wondering is if I can lock everything back up in order to trade it in on the JUMP program down the road. . .

I'm starting to think that the Note 3 might be a tad too big. . . and although I use the Pen on the Note 10.1 constantly, I haven't really used it that much on the Note 3.
I'm pretty sure its relatively simple to go back to stock especially since you aren't unlocking the bootloader, but rather just bypassing it with this tool.
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So I see the Google Launcher Experience is N5 only.

WTF?

The whole reason I like the Nexus line is because it was supposed to be across the board.

Now they are cherry picking their own line.

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Sounds like what Apple did with siri when it came out. It could be that older devices might not have something hardware wise for everything to work properly, so it loses out on the whole thing.
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That doesn't say much for the 2013 N7. LOL
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Well, it's practically the same hardware as the Nexus 4.
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I think it is part of one of the chips to be listening all the time for "OK Google" that is in the N5 but not the other Nexi. Seems like a shortcut to remove all of it instead of just the listening part.
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I think it is part of one of the chips to be listening all the time for "OK Google" that is in the N5 but not the other Nexi. Seems like a shortcut to remove all of it instead of just the listening part.
That would be my guess considering the transparent nav bar can be related using nova or aokp.
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I think it is part of one of the chips to be listening all the time for "OK Google" that is in the N5 but not the other Nexi. Seems like a shortcut to remove all of it instead of just the listening part.
It's exactly that - always on voice listening for Google Now in a way they can support easily without it being a power hog.

Built in to Snapdragon 800 and separate cores added for the similar function on the Moto X.

Note that the N5 launcher has GNow baked in, it's not a widget pointing to a separate app. (I think I said that right. )

I've read of various root ports for the other Nexi, don't know how well it really works compared to an N5.
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Well that all makes sense.

I put my pitchfork back in the closet.
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I recall The Chief running some app to do what the Moto X did and I think I remember that he said it was a power hog. If I remembered that right, there you go.

I personally think it's as much a marketing choice as an engineering one to not make it widely available and turn off Snapdragon 800 features when there isn't one.

But I could be wrong on that.

It certainly draws a line to differentiate the Google Nexus 5 from the Moto X imo.
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The funny thing is I've been wondering why I couldn't get Google Now (the app) to not respond when I said google for some time. I just figured out the other day I had to say "OK Google."

When did they change that?
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Open Mic+ was the app supposed to be similar to the Moto X one. I've tried it but haven't used it in a while.
The Kit Kat port to my Gnex and Gnow with voice actions has worked quite flawlessly. It's a buggy ROM, but those features work well.
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Yes, Open Mic+ was the app. Runs great as long as you DON'T run it in standby! THAT'S the battery hog. But if the screen's on (charging or whatever), knock yourself out
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2012 Nexus 7 OTA is live, got the download link in the ATR forum for those who want to manually install.
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Not for mine ('12 or '13) they aren't.

No biggie, I'll wait for the OTA.
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Not for mine ('12 or '13) they aren't.

No biggie, I'll wait for the OTA.
It is the OTA file, easy enough install if rooted. If not, then adb sideload.
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My N7's aren't rooted. No need.
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Not for mine ('12 or '13) they aren't.

No biggie, I'll wait for the OTA.
update.zip for ya if you're impatient.
Download: Android 4.4 (KRT16O) Official Update for Nexus 7 (2012) WiFi – Droid Life
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Impatience isn't a problem. Time is.

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To all those upset about not getting the Google Experience Launcher, might want to have a look at this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/13/massive-google-search-3-1-8-update-rolling-out-brings-google-experience-launcher-new-cards-completely-fixes-gel-on-tablets-and-more-apk-download/
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Tried the GEL and didn't really like it.
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Hi Steven!

Welp, the Darling Bride ordered her customized Moto X today, we'll send the son her S3 in exchange for his Gnex... on which I'll install KitKat and sell it. Sounds like a plan!

Have a great night!
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Welp, the Darling Bride ordered her customized Moto X today, we'll send the son her S3 in exchange for his Gnex... on which I'll install KitKat and sell it. Sounds like a plan!

Have a great night!

Pics of said device or we'll just think you're trying to cool guy us.
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Andy Kaufman fans?

Did anyone else see the video of the girl that comes up on stage claiming to be his daughter during the Annual Andy Kaufman Awards?

If it is real, then he actually faked his own death like he wanted to. If it is an act, she put on a good show. Or maybe the girl and Andy's brother were in on it together?
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Morning everyone. So I gotta say I really like the Moto G business model. The carriers new contract free emphasis is contributing to that. Perhaps finally we will see some downward pressure on phone prices. I'm going to try very hard to hold on to this phone and get rid of the extra lines on my account that I have been using for upgrades.
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